Vincent Corazza and Richard Epcar Not Reprising Roles in KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 ReMIX?
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- Published on January 28, 2013 @ 02:20 am
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While Jesse McCartney has confirmed voice acting for a localised version of KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 ReMIX, and Alyson Stoner hints at returning as Xion, forum member Taochan emailed voice actors Vincent Corazza and Richard Epcar asking if they would be reprising their roles as Zexion and Ansem Seeker of Darkness respectively. Unfortunately, neither could confirm their involvement with KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 ReMIX.
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While they did not confirm their involvement in the game, this does not completely remove the possiblity of them returning to voice their characters. It could mean that they don't want to break their NDA(Non-Disclosure Agreement), that they have been contacted by Square Enix but haven't started voice acting work for the character yet, that they haven't be contacted by Square Enix yet, or their character doesn't have any spoken roles in the game.
KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 ReMIX releases March 14th 2013 in Japan. There is no confirmed date for other regions.
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Well if I recall correctly, Ansem SOD doesn't appear in DAYS at all so there's no reason Richard Epcar would need to do any voice recordings at all.
Riku embraces the darkness and his body takes the form of Ansem SoD in Days.
I'm guessing they're opting to recycle the original recordings from Days for Ansem-possessed Riku rather than calling Epcar back?
Yeah it's unsure if they'd given Ansem SoD any more lines in Days but if they did then Richard would be in on it.
I'm guessing they're opting to recycle the original recordings from Days for Ansem-possessed Riku rather than calling Epcar back?
That's silly. I wish they could get Billy Zane to do the voice of Xehanort's Heartless like in the first game.
Well I hope we'll be hearing Zexion in 1.5. Thanks for the info Chaser and Taochan!
Hopefully he'll just be contacted later or something since there's not that many lines for him to go through *wishful bastard*
So they're gonna keep Billy Zane's voice in KH1, I guess. It's not like I was expecting different but after having Richard voice over Ansem for the flashback scenes in KH2 made me curious
Ten years. Ten years. Ten years. Ten years. Ten years. Ten years. Ten years. Ten years. Actually it will be eleven years this year. Eleven years.
I worry that 1.5 will reignite the "BILLY ZANE" fire that somehow remains alive even eleven years later. The man is in awful Lifetime and Hallmark films now. Richard Epcar is fantastic. *done*
That's silly.
Why? It's not like they have an endless supply of money. It's expected that they'd recycle recordings wherever they can.
| I wish they could get Billy Zane to do the voice of Xehanort's Heartless like in the first game. |
Epcar has greatly improved to the point where the vast majority honestly.. don't want Billy Zane back to replace him. True, his performance in the original KH was excellent, but it's been over a decade since then. Move on.
i guess either they are either A. not breaking their NDA's, or B havent started recording yet. Wasn't epcar one of the first to hint at DDD's localisation? i would assume that square would be cracking down on that
i guess either they are either A. not breaking their NDA's, or B havent started recording yet. Wasn't epcar one of the first to hint at DDD's localisation? i would assume that square would be cracking down on that
And then Jesse goes and uploads videos and pictures straight from the recording booth.
As much as I love Epcar's voice, I am partial to Billy Zane. He just did an awesome job with Ansem and I was actually heart broken when KH2 came along and Zane was gone :(
But Epcar has grown on me since then, so I won't be upset either way heh...
That's silly. I wish they could get Billy Zane to do the voice of Xehanort's Heartless like in the first game.
Well, of course they Could. But they won't :(
Why? It's not like they have an endless supply of money. It's expected that they'd recycle recordings wherever they can.
Epcar has greatly improved to the point where the vast majority honestly.. don't want Billy Zane back to replace him. True, his performance in the original KH was excellent, but it's been over a decade since then. Move on.
No. And I would very much like to see your statistics on this.
Well, of course they Could. But they won't :(
Actually, he probably didn't want to return. No doubt he just did it as a one off.
Richard Epcar has voiced Xehanort's Heartless more times than Zane and his performance is excellent.
Zane's position as Ansem seeker of darkness has long been over, and a great deal of us are fine with that
Actually, he probably didn't want to return. No doubt he just did it as a one off.
Maybe. We never did learn the true reason. But still. I'm sure he has a price. I mean, they got Sir. Christopher. Lee to return for a DS game, and they even got Leonard Nimoy back!
They both sound the same to me, I think people are just being nit picky and making a big deal out of something that should be forgotten by now
Gonna go with not recording yet. Just making an assumption here(and we all know the saying), but given there's a reasonable amount of editting that goes into the voice clips after they're done(like leveling, raising/lowering pitches, etc.), it makes sense to get all of the major actors out of the way first so that editting can be done while the rest of the minor roles can go in.
Thus the reason the only two real confirmations/hints we have are McCartney and Stoner so far. But yeah, I'm just speculating here.
Gonna go with not recording yet. Just making an assumption here(and we all know the saying), but given there's a reasonable amount of editting that goes into the voice clips after they're done(like leveling, raising/lowering pitches, etc.), it makes sense to get all of the major actors out of the way first so that editting can be done while the rest of the minor roles can go in.
Thus the reason the only two real confirmations/hints we have are McCartney and Stoner so far. But yeah, I'm just speculating here.
Thinking the same in Vincent's case, due to their being a screen of Demyx having lines so I can't see Zexion having nothing.
With Epcar though I just think there aren't going to be any new scenes in the HD version of Days for him to do.
Gonna go with not recording yet. Just making an assumption here(and we all know the saying), but given there's a reasonable amount of editting that goes into the voice clips after they're done(like leveling, raising/lowering pitches, etc.), it makes sense to get all of the major actors out of the way first so that editting can be done while the rest of the minor roles can go in.
Thus the reason the only two real confirmations/hints we have are McCartney and Stoner so far. But yeah, I'm just speculating here.
I'm going to go with this, it makes the most sense that they haven't been asked yet. It wouldn't make sense for them to not have voices like Zexion's in 1.5
And then Jesse goes and uploads videos and pictures straight from the recording booth.
NDA's are just paper to Jesse.
Billy Zane master race reporting in.
I seriously love his voice acting in the first game. I wish they would have brought Epcar in to begin with so my nitpicking wouldn't kick in anytime Xehanort's Heartless speaks in the other games.
Actually, I kinda wish Epcar returns rather than Zane. Sure, Zane's work was great in KH1, but he wouldn't really make a good voice for when someone is possessed. Epcar's voice is really good anyway, so...
Billy Zane master race reporting in.
I seriously love his voice acting in the first game. I wish they would have brought Epcar in to begin with so my nitpicking wouldn't kick in anytime Xehanort's Heartless speaks in the other games.
This^
But, I would have to go with the consensus here and say that they just haven't started their recordings yet. Granted, I don't remember much about Days.
If they included the scene in the flashback/memory where it shows Zexion at Distiny Island talking to Xion/Sora then Vincent Corrazza would have to return to voice Zexion because it was an actual cutscene. I feel that he can't' talk about it yet. Alot of VA's actors are under the can't diclose information out contract. I guess with Jessie he got permission to do so.
If they included the scene in the flashback/memory where it shows Zexion at Distiny Island talking to Xion/Sora then Vincent Corrazza would have to return to voice Zexion because it was an actual cutscene. I feel that he can't' talk about it yet. Alot of VA's actors are under the can't diclose information out contract.
They should still have the recording of that scene in it's original quality. Doubtful that he'd need to record it again.
| I guess with Jessie he got permission to do so. |
Jesse definitely didn't get permission considering a bunch of angry legal folk got him to take down the tweet and video, and sent out C&Ds for copies of said video to be taken down.
I guess with Jessie he got permission to do so.
And yet they made him remove any proof and asked other sites to remove the proof.
They are probably gonna reuse voice clips. That's very common for HD collections.
And yet they made him remove any proof and asked other sites to remove the proof.
Good thing they can't erase our memories.
Good thing they can't erase our memories.
If they could, they would. xD
Didn't David Gallagher say something along the lines of that they were only contacted a short period of time before the recording were to take place? The recording might just have begun and they haven't contacted Vincent yet.
Didn't David Gallagher say something along the lines of that they were only contacted a short period of time before the recording were to take place? The recording might just have begun and they haven't contacted Vincent yet.
Yeah we know. There's a whole world of possibilities out there as to why Vincent hasn't been called back yet. Only time will tell if our master Illusionist will be a grand comeback.
The recording might just have begun and they haven't contacted Vincent yet.
Which is what we said in the article.
Is there even a reason for Vincent Corazza to reprise his role? After all his most prominent scene in the game "Snarl of Memories" is already voiced and there's the chance that his tutorial mission could be skipped, because it was about the mission Gauge, which won't really play a role in the HD theater or is there a scene I forgot about?
There's always the common room place.
*sob* I just want Zexion. If every member doesn't have something new I will cry.
CAPITAL N
I JUST WANT THE CAPITAL N ;A;
CAPITAL N
I JUST WANT THE CAPITAL N ;A;
THAT WOULD BE PERFECT AND IT WOULD MAKE ME FOREVER HAPPY
HEY
HEY
LEXAEUS SMACKING ROXAS TO TEACH HIM LIMIT BREAKS
IN HD
This is why all the tutorial scenes need to be in the game. Edited like in a sitcom where a character tries to succeed in a variety of things but ends up with them exhausted.
I like Epcar's voice acting but I would be disappointed if they got rid of Zane completely, just because his voice acting in KH1 is really nostalgic IMO. TBH, I wish we could have all three: Epcar as Xehanort, Zane as Ansem and Peter as Xemnas. Epcar's Xehanort is fantastic, but I don't think it fits Ansem as much.
I know some people have already said some of my thoughts already, but I still must share!
Richard Epcar:
He has already recorded his lines for Re:CoM, and what little dialogue he had in Days has been recorded as well. Something they could do, is have him record Ansem SoD's lines for KH1, and replace Billy Zane's voice. I think Zane did a great job, but I'm also a nit-picky continuity person too.
Vincent Corazza:
Very similar to Epcar. He's already recorded his lines for both Re:CoM and Days, and he isn't even in KH1. Yes, he and the rest of the Castle Oblivion crew short of Axel (Marluxia, Larxene, Lexeaus, Vexen), do have lines at the beginning of Days. It's already been stated that all they do is Tutorial, with only a couple of lines each worthy of note. I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be excited to hear the C.O. gang get new lines, but it seems like a waste of time/money.
Misc.:
I WOULD be interested for some re-records of say: Leon's new voice actor for KH1, as well as the proper voice of Hercules. Not to seem disrespectful, but I'd also give some thought to re-recording King Mickey lines. KH1 Mickey lines you can keep, but the Re:CoM Mickey lines always sounded off to me. R.I.P. Wayne Allwine, but they'll have Mickey's new voice there to record Days lines anyway, so might as well right? Oh, but keep Mandy Moore as Aerith, we must savor it while we can...
Props to the person who took the time to ask these guys, but... why these two? Even if they do return, it won't be for that many lines. Why not hit up a big name like Quinton Flynn? I'm sure he'll be recording a lot (if he returns).
mabey he doesnt have any new sceans
What about shanelle gray is she coming back?
OMG THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!! Let me be clear, I'm am only referring to Epcar. I have not hesitated to show how mucho dislike him as Ansem SoD. Simple because it is clear Epcar tries too hard to make his voice so deep and menacing, and it just sounds un-natural. So because he is "not in this installment" it means they are recycling Billy Zane's voice from the original, and I could not be happier to that fact.
| I WOULD be interested for some re-records of say: Leon's new voice actor for KH1, as well as the proper voice of Hercules. Not to seem disrespectful, but I'd also give some thought to re-recording King Mickey lines. KH1 Mickey lines you can keep, but the Re:CoM Mickey lines always sounded off to me. R.I.P. Wayne Allwine, but they'll have Mickey's new voice there to record Days lines anyway, so might as well right? Oh, but keep Mandy Moore as Aerith, we must savor it while we can... |
I agree 100% on Aerith. Mickey, it'll be weird to see the difference, and yes R.I.P to Wayne Allwine, and I think they should keep his stuff, because honestly, I'm glad his Mickey ended strong
Y, cuz technically, Days was his last Mickey role, so I feel they should savor every minute of the Disney Legend's (and he was actually named one of them) voice over beauty. Honestly, I never thought too heavily on Leon's voice actor, yes the voices sound different, but I guess they both do the job well enough to the point where it sounds like they could both fit, and I can easily say just keep it. But finally, Hercules, yes it was cool to get the original voice actor, Tate Donovan back for 2, (and Josh Keaton for BBS) but I'm sorry I can NEVER hate on Sean Aston hahaha.
OMG THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!! Let me be clear, I'm am only referring to Epcar. I have not hesitated to show how mucho dislike him as Ansem SoD. Simple because it is clear Epcar tries too hard to make his voice so deep and menacing, and it just sounds un-natural. So because he is "not in this installment" it means they are recycling Billy Zane's voice from the original, and I could not be happier to that fact.
You really can't blame Epcar for his performance in KHII. They just locked him in the studio, didn't even show him Zane's work and told him to mimic it.
If they do get Billy Zane then they have to redub RE:COM. Also if they get Billy Zane, then they need to get Christopher Lee to redub RE:COM.
If they do get Billy Zane then they have to redub RE:COM. Also if they get Billy Zane, then they need to get Christopher Lee to redub RE:COM.
They won't. Trust me on that, they won't.
Christoper Lee is probably never ever coming back now. He's way to old to travel to America to do it. Why they don't record his lines in Europe, no one knows.
Yeah KH2 had pretty subpar voice direction in general. HJO was too...idk weird (and we know he can do great like in Re:CoM and BBS and even KH3D), Hayden was told to do that airy princess voice, they hired Mena Suvari :| , and so on. It wasn't all bad, but it wasn't the best.
I'd love if Christopher Lee could reprise his role in the future (even though I love Corey Burton.) His "I will read this line the way I want and that is how it will be" story is forever the best thing.
I'd love if Christopher Lee could reprise his role in the future (even though I love Corey Burton.) His "I will read this line the way I want and that is how it will be" story is forever the best thing.
Even better than the Kids Next Story Santa Coming story?
Yeah KH2 had pretty subpar voice direction in general. HJO was too...idk weird (and we know he can do great like in Re:CoM and BBS and even KH3D), Hayden was told to do that airy princess voice, they hired Mena Suvari :| , and so on. It wasn't all bad, but it wasn't the best.
I'd love if Christopher Lee could reprise his role in the future (even though I love Corey Burton.) His "I will read this line the way I want and that is how it will be" story is forever the best thing.
Wanna join the possible better diolouge when 2.5 comes bandwagon? I mean, if it's possible to better the direction for 1.5, then 2.5 too.
Wanna join the possible better diolouge when 2.5 comes bandwagon? I mean, if it's possible to better the direction for 1.5, then 2.5 too.
No thanks. I still enjoy KH2 for what it is.
No thanks. I still enjoy KH2 for what it is.
I know still my favorite game of 06.
Even better than the Kids Next Story Santa Coming story?
ROFL OKAY Yeah, that takes the cake for sure.
You really can't blame Epcar for his performance in KHII. They just locked him in the studio, didn't even show him Zane's work and told him to mimic it.
Not just KH2 but Everytime he has voiced him since. I'm just not a fan of it. I'm not to sure about his other work, I just don't like his voice as this particular character. And now that you mention it, I, forthe first time, realize that he probably didn't know what to do for the opening of KH2 when Sora's memories started coming back, because one line fully shows how he had clue of Zane's work in it. When Zane says " Kingdom hearts Fill me with with the power of darkness." It's more quiet and menacing. Epcar screams it. And it's pretty obvious.
Not just KH2 but Everytime he has voiced him since. I'm just not a fan of it. I'm not to sure about his other work, I just don't like his voice as this particular character. And now that you mention it, I, forthe first time, realize that he probably didn't know what to do for the opening of KH2 when Sora's memories started coming back, because one line fully shows how he had clue of Zane's work in it. When Zane says " Kingdom hearts Fill me with with the power of darkness." It's more quiet and menacing. Epcar screams it. And it's pretty obvious.
I think the problem here is that you want Epcar to be Zane, which he is not. He has his own style and wanting him to be another Voice Actor, well, it's a bit insulting (not saying you mean it like that though).
People shouldn't expect that from him. Like I said, he's a different voice actor and has his own style, you cannot expect the same kind of delivery. He's a good voice actor, seems like a genuine guy and he gets better every single game. For that alone, I respect him as a VA.
I think the problem here is that you want Epcar to be Zane, which he is not. He has his own style and wanting him to be another Voice Actor, well, it's a bit insulting (not saying you mean it like that though).
People shouldn't expect that from him. Like I said, he's a different voice actor and has his own style, you cannot expect the same kind of delivery. He's a good voice actor, seems like a genuine guy and he gets better every single game. For that alone, I respect him as a VA.
Full agreement. Not only has Epcar vastly improved as mentioned, he's also the regular voice actor for 6/7 of the series right now and very dedicated to it.
I personally cannot help but suspect all this Zane-worshipping being only nostalgia-induced denial to Epcar's actual performance and dedication as a voice actor to this series.
Zane made only some few lines in one last third of ONE game, Epcar is already in six.
Full agreement. Not only has Epcar vastly improved as mentioned, he's also the regular voice actor for 6/7 of the series right now and very dedicated to it.
I personally cannot help but suspect all this Zane-worshipping being only nostalgia-induced denial to Epcar's actual performance and dedication as a voice actor to this series.
Zane made only some few lines in one last third of ONE game, Epcar is already in six.
How could you say that his stuff was so little, how could you forget his epic entrance on DI, with the cloak?! Lol
And no I genuinely feel the natural dark nature of Zane's voice was superior to Epcar's. as I said, it's just obvious Epcar is trying so hard. What I mean by this, because there are tons of voice actors who can get their voices to sound different, but they sound natural, Epcar just falls short of the mark because its clear its not a natural tone for his voice.
Trust me, if me feeling nostalgia for the first game got in the way of my views on the series, I would be furious and have quit the series long ago lol
Full agreement. Not only has Epcar vastly improved as mentioned, he's also the regular voice actor for 6/7 of the series right now and very dedicated to it.
I personally cannot help but suspect all this Zane-worshipping being only nostalgia-induced denial to Epcar's actual performance and dedication as a voice actor to this series.
Zane made only some few lines in one last third of ONE game, Epcar is already in six.
Suspicion-denial incoming from a Zane "worshipper," if you can worship a performance: It might surprise people to hear this coming from such a person, but Epcar is a good voice actor. He is a genuine guy, he does get better every game, and I definitely have always liked and respected him as a VA. But none of that has any bearing on who I think is simply better for a part. I said it somewhere on gamefaqs once. In my opinion, a voice like Epcar's works much more suitably for characters like Batou (GitS), Zangetsu (Bleach), or hell, if we're talking about KH, Lexaeus used to be the first character I'd think of when I'd think Richard Epcar. You know, the tough, gruff, usually stoic types, with a voice hard as stone. He has that down. Not so much the hammy, grandiose personification of evil like Ansem is.
So in response to
| I think the problem here is that you want Epcar to be Zane, which he is not. He has his own style and wanting him to be another Voice Actor |
Yeah, does have his own style. And I've just never thought that style was right for the character of Ansem as he was introduced. I don't want him to be Zane; I want Ansem to feel like Ansem.
I want Ansem to feel like Ansem.
Well, you think Zane has made Ansem who he is, which kinda proofs my statement earlier. It's understandable though. I also liked Zane as Ansem (he was awesome as hell) but he ain't coming back. And Epcar, imo, has been doing great work for us since KH2 (I mean, have you seen the improvement he has made over the years?). I think it's safe to say that he has now mad Ansem who he is.
It's different, sure, but the guy's here to stay, meaning Epcar Ansem is Ansem.
Well, you think Zane has made Ansem who he is, which kinda proofs my statement earlier. It's understandable though. I also liked Zane as Ansem (he was awesome as hell) but he ain't coming back. And Epcar, imo, has been doing great work for us since KH2 (I mean, have you seen the improvement he has made over the years?). I think it's safe to say that he has now mad Ansem who he is.
It's different, sure, but the guy's here to stay, meaning Epcar Ansem is Ansem.
My whole point to starting that bit about Zane, was just to say I'm glad they are not replacing his voice for 1.5. I know he's not coming back, which in MY opinion is sad, but I've come to accept it.
How could you say that his stuff was so little, how could you forget his epic entrance on DI, with the cloak?! Lol
He had those lines on DI, a few lines in Hallow Bastion and then the stuff at the end of the End of the World.
Wasn't much.
Well, you think Zane has made Ansem who he is, which kinda proofs my statement earlier. It's understandable though. I also liked Zane as Ansem (he was awesome as hell) but he ain't coming back.
I never said I expected otherwise.
| And Epcar, imo, has been doing great work for us since KH2 (I mean, have you seen the improvement he has made over the years?). |
*points to my post*
| I think it's safe to say that he has now mad Ansem who he is. It's different, sure, but the guy's here to stay, meaning Epcar Ansem is Ansem. |
Even if I were to grant you that, all it would mean then is that I like who Ansem was better than who he is. Even with Epcar here to stay, I just can't ever see myself preferring him to Zane.
He had those lines on DI, a few lines in Hallow Bastion and then the stuff at the end of the End of the World.
Wasn't much.
Don't substitute quantity for quality lol
Don't substitute quantity for quality lol
Do you see me saying that it wasn't good? No.
All we're saying is that it wasn't much in the first place.
Don't substitute quantity for quality lol
Why are you getting soo nitpicky over a couple of lines in one game? If they replaced Billy Zane's voice with Epcar, it wouldn't ruin the game at all.
Do you see me saying that it wasn't good? No.
All we're saying is that it wasn't much in the first place.
Well even though it wasn't a lot, it was actually more than any other game. I guess if you put the other games that has Ansem with dialogue together It would equal more.
| Why are you getting soo nitpicky over a couple of lines in one game? If they replaced Billy Zane's voice with Epcar, it wouldn't ruin the game at all. |
In my opinion it would, cuz, as I have already said, I prefer Zane's naturally dark sounding voice over Epcar's forcing voice.
Well even though it wasn't a lot, it was actually more than any other game. I guess if you put the other games that has Ansem with dialogue together It would equal more.
Was it more than Re:CoM?
Was it more than Re:CoM?
........................see there's my point none of Ansem in RE:CoM was all that memorable and I blame Epcar!! Lmao!!! Jk jk nah you're right now that I think of it, haha. My bad.
The redubbing of Ansem for the flashbacks at the start of KHII was a bit jarring, because I was so used to those lines being said a certain way, but I think Epcar has been doing a decent job with the new material.
Zexion dies fairly early in 358/2 days, we are more likely to hear from the Luxord/Demyx/Xaldin half of the Organization I'm thinking.
The redubbing of Ansem for the flashbacks at the start of KHII was a bit jarring, because I was so used to those lines being said a certain way, but I think Epcar has been doing a decent job with the new material.
Zexion dies fairly early in 358/2 days, we are more likely to hear from the Luxord/Demyx/Xaldin half of the Organization I'm thinking.
Maybe or maybe not. Though, it'd be nice to see that scene in that manga where Demyx calls Xigbar an old man and Xiggy goes all out on him or Demyx's line about him being glad that Larxene's out, because he doesn't have to play gopher. Demyx is hilarous, especially as his American English Voice Actor played Kovu as a cub in the Lion King 2: Simba's Pride.
And, I'd like to hear Larxene's voice, even if it's annoying. Are they by any chance going to use those cutscenes where Larxene and Vexen are training Roxas from earlier in the game?
And, I'd like to hear Larxene's voice, even if it's annoying. Are they by any chance going to use those cutscenes where Larxene and Vexen are training Roxas from earlier in the game?
That's what everyone's hoping for.
That's what everyone's hoping for.
Gee, I hope so. Larxene and Vexen's VAs will hopefully make a comeback. That's if Square Enix can get a hold of them.
Gee, I hope so. Larxene and Vexen's VAs will hopefully make a comeback. That's if Square Enix can get a hold of them.
I just hope this time, the community doesn't go overboard.
Before BBS was released, there was a period where we suddenly got a bunch of VA confirmations. Naturally everyone got really excited, but so many people spammed Derek Stephen Prince that he sorta blew up. He had every right to do so; it was just sorta frightening, and embarrassing to be associated with the KH fandom that they pushed someone to such extremes.
I just hope this time, the community doesn't go overboard.
Before BBS was released, there was a period where we suddenly got a bunch of VA confirmations. Naturally everyone got really excited, but so many people spammed Derek Stephen Prince that he sorta blew up. He had every right to do so; it was just sorta frightening, and embarrassing to be associated with the KH fandom that they pushed someone to such extremes.
Yeah, let's hope some of the fans just cause the actors to quit.
Yeah, let's hope some of the fans just cause the actors to quit.
I'm not sure how you got that from my post.
I'm not sure how you got that from my post.
Well, people were spamming Even/Vexen's page, right and he nearly blew up. That's how. Would an actor quit due to something like that?
Well, people were spamming Even/Vexen's page, right and he nearly blew up. That's how. Would an actor quit due to something like that?
We don't want that though. We want EVERY voice actor to come back and reprise their roles if they are able to and to not be hounded by the fanbase.
Well, people were spamming Even/Vexen's page, right and he nearly blew up. That's how. Would an actor quit due to something like that?
Why would we want a voice actor to quit though?
Why would we want a voice actor to quit though?
If they are terrible like Aerith's VA.
If they are terrible like Aerith's VA.
Yeah she was pretty terrible how did she even get hired, KH tends to do a good job finding nice actors
i still don't really feel like mena suvari was ever tHAT bad..
Yeah she was pretty terrible how did she even get hired, KH tends to do a good job finding nice actors
Hopefully, it'll be different this time or they'll reuse the same scenes from Kingdom Hearts added with Kingdom Hearts Final Mix.
Hopefully, it'll be different this time or they'll reuse the same scenes from Kingdom Hearts added with Kingdom Hearts Final Mix.
Mena Suvari voiced Aerith in KH2.
Maybe or maybe not. Though, it'd be nice to see that scene in that manga where Demyx calls Xigbar an old man and Xiggy goes all out on him or Demyx's line about him being glad that Larxene's out, because he doesn't have to play gopher. Demyx is hilarous, especially as his American English Voice Actor played Kovu as a cub in the Lion King 2: Simba's Pride.
And, I'd like to hear Larxene's voice, even if it's annoying. Are they by any chance going to use those cutscenes where Larxene and Vexen are training Roxas from earlier in the game?
Whoa, whoa! The Wendy's girl was not annoying! She did a damn fine job--honestly, I think only someone like Grey Delisle could've done even better.
Whoa, whoa! The Wendy's girl was not annoying! She did a damn fine job--honestly, I think only someone like Grey Delisle could've done even better.
Wasn't Wendy Darling from Peter Pan also voiced by the same actress that voiced Alice in Alice in the Wonderland? Maybe, not in the game, but what about the movies?
Wasn't Wendy Darling from Peter Pan also voiced by the same actress that voiced Alice in Alice in the Wonderland? Maybe, not in the game, but what about the movies?
No, he's referring to the Wendy's fast food commercials, the girl who Shanelle Gray voices as well as Larxene.
Yeah, let's hope some of the fans just cause the actors to quit.
I.... no... what...?
Well, people were spamming Even/Vexen's page, right and he nearly blew up. That's how. Would an actor quit due to something like that?
No!
Voice actors should expect to get fans bombarding them with "are you in this?", "You coming back as...?"
It's just a shame that Mr. Prince blew up about it.
I.... no... what...?
No!
Voice actors should expect to get fans bombarding them with "are you in this?", "You coming back as...?"
It's just a shame that Mr. Prince blew up about it.
Where do people get the information about the VAs?
Prince blew up on the fans? Damn yep definity I can see that side of Vexen from him.
Did he not think that anyone who VA's from Kingdom Hearts wouldn't be popular or to some people be known some kind of celebrity in the fans eyes? I know the fanbase can be really crazy. This makes me wonder if Xaldin's VA is still in trouble for beating up a neighbor due to something about towels.
Where do people get the information about the VAs?
You mean their contact info? Some of them have official sites, Facebook pages, Twitter accounts, etc. It's a bit difficult to filter through all the fakes, but they exist.
| Prince blew up on the fans? Damn yep definity I can see that side of Vexen from him. Did he not think that anyone who VA's from Kingdom Hearts wouldn't be popular or to some people be known some kind of celebrity in the fans eyes? I know the fanbase can be really crazy. This makes me wonder if Xaldin's VA is still in trouble for beating up a neighbor due to something about towels. |
I think he was aware, but he wasn't prepared by the sudden onslaught of messages. Considering the situation, I figure a handful of them were written professionally or even politely.
Mena Suvari was fairly dreadful, imo. No emotion whatsoever. But different strokes for different folks I suppose.
No!
Voice actors should expect to get fans bombarding them with "are you in this?", "You coming back as...?"
It's just a shame that Mr. Prince blew up about it.
Yeah, imagine what actual celebrities have to go through on a daily basis (no offence to Derek). It was a bit unprofessional tbh.
How could you say that his stuff was so little, how could you forget his epic entrance on DI, with the cloak?! Lol
And no I genuinely feel the natural dark nature of Zane's voice was superior to Epcar's. as I said, it's just obvious Epcar is trying so hard. What I mean by this, because there are tons of voice actors who can get their voices to sound different, but they sound natural, Epcar just falls short of the mark because its clear its not a natural tone for his voice.
Trust me, if me feeling nostalgia for the first game got in the way of my views on the series, I would be furious and have quit the series long ago lol
These scenes I know only in German voices, so there actually isn't something to forget. ;P
I don't felt Epcar was "trying too hard" in DDD at all, Ansem SoD sounded perfectly fine to me. Bonus points for close resemblance of Terra-Xehanort's voice from BBS.
If you speak of voice actors getting their voices to sound different, just look at Jesse McCartney's work on Roxas and Ventus, they actually sound vastly different when asking Riku the questions in DDD.
Haha, alright, maybe it's also partly from my side that I never understood this constant flipping about Zane when Epcar voices him for nearly the entire series and has fun with it.
Suspicion-denial incoming from a Zane "worshipper," if you can worship a performance: It might surprise people to hear this coming from such a person, but Epcar is a good voice actor. He is a genuine guy, he does get better every game, and I definitely have always liked and respected him as a VA. But none of that has any bearing on who I think is simply better for a part. I said it somewhere on gamefaqs once. In my opinion, a voice like Epcar's works much more suitably for characters like Batou (GitS), Zangetsu (Bleach), or hell, if we're talking about KH, Lexaeus used to be the first character I'd think of when I'd think Richard Epcar. You know, the tough, gruff, usually stoic types, with a voice hard as stone. He has that down. Not so much the hammy, grandiose personification of evil like Ansem is.
So in response to
Yeah, does have his own style. And I've just never thought that style was right for the character of Ansem as he was introduced. I don't want him to be Zane; I want Ansem to feel like Ansem.
Well, isn't "stoic" being also one of Ansem SoD's primary traits? That said though, I am a person who picks coherence over preference, and it is not deniable that Richard Epcar is by now the official voice of Ansem SoD for the whole series, so although I doubt they would go the extra mile and re-dub stuff that's already there I certainly won't throw a fit if they actually did it just because there isn't any Zane anymore then.
Or in short, I'm practically indifferent as I like Epcar quite enough and think he does a good job, so I don't really get all that fuss about Zane.
Have you ever taken into consideration that the character of Ansem changed over the course of the series as we learned more about him and his origins and connections with Xehanort and Terra? The character of Ansem during the series may have changed from the way "as he was introduced".
| I don't felt Epcar was "trying too hard" in DDD at all, Ansem SoD sounded perfectly fine to me. Bonus points for close resemblance of Terra-Xehanort's voice from BBS. |
That's because Epcar voiced terra-Xehanort in BBS lol.
And let me rephrase. I didn't mean trying too hard, I meant you can hear it, that it wasn't natural for his voice, that he was trying to make his voice deep and dark, whereas Zane's speaking voice in real life, just made even deeper and darker, was natural and sounded perfect for the character, over the forced evil tone in Epcar's voice.
And let me rephrase. I didn't mean trying too hard, I meant you can hear it, that it wasn't natural for his voice, that he was trying to make his voice deep and dark, whereas Zane's speaking voice in real life, just made even deeper and darker, was natural and sounded perfect for the character, over the forced evil tone in Epcar's voice.
I don't know.
I don't think Epcars Ansem voice is that much different from his natural voice.
Richard Epcar On Camera - YouTube
Kingdom Hearts Re: CoM English - Reverse/Rebirth - Part 4 Dual Tutorial - YouTube
Might just be me though?
Well, isn't "stoic" being also one of Ansem SoD's primary traits?
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And even when he's not being overly hammy in KH1, there was always just a sheer, almost gleeful malevolence to his voice that I just don't think Epcar can match. And he actually did try, back when he was trying to copy Zane's performance initially in KH2--we know how that turned out.
| That said though, I am a person who picks coherence over preference, and it is not deniable that Richard Epcar is by now the official voice of Ansem SoD for the whole series, so although I doubt they would go the extra mile and re-dub stuff that's already there I certainly won't throw a fit if they actually did it just because there isn't any Zane anymore then. |
I think you mean continuity, as both Zane and Epcar are equally coherent. But still, in that case, I approach continuity differently. I'm someone for whom contuinity is generally established with the first entry (if the successor is vastly superior, maybe that changes things). So, you say it would break continuity to have Zane return. But for me, the continuity was broken by his departure, and has remained broken since. And again, I know they won't redub it. But I still wish they would.
| Have you ever taken into consideration that the character of Ansem changed over the course of the series as we learned more about him and his origins and connections with Xehanort and Terra? The character of Ansem during the series may have changed from the way "as he was introduced". |
Learning more about a character's backstory =/= character development. Not without active growth on Ansem's part. And KH has never really emphasized character that much outside of a few. Certainly not Ansem's.
Seeing someone's post on the Leon voice actor issue made me wonder something... Do we have any idea who Yuffie's "official VA" is now? It seems to be a little up in the air, like the Hayden and Alyson thing is. Christy Carlson Romano voiced her in KHI and Advent Children, where as Mae Whitman voiced her in KHII and Dirge of Cerberus. I'm so confused:/
And as for Andrea Bowen, wouldn't it be safe to assume that she will be the one approached for Aerith (since Mandy and Mena haven't reprised their roles lately)? I'm just guessing, though, as I don't really know how these things work.
Tbh, I wouldn't mind if we had Andrea as Aerith from now on. She did well in Crisis Core, and I liked her more than Mena (and since it seems Mandy isn't coming back...)
I'd say Mae Whitman and Andrea Bowen are Yuffie and Aerith.
Why are they recasting KH1 in the HD Remix for? Can't they just recycle all the voice overs in both KH1 and KH Re:COM? I mean look at all the HD collections they did not recast
Why are they recasting KH1 in the HD Remix for? Can't they just recycle all the voice overs in both KH1 and KH Re:COM? I mean look at all the HD collections they did not recast
Then people will call it lazy if the voices don't change.
Then people will call it lazy if the voices don't change.
And if they do, nostalgia freaks will scold them because they destroyed the original experience. It'll be never good enough. NEVAH *alfred*
EDIT: WHAT THE BUCK, I'M GREY 8D
Then people will call it lazy if the voices don't change.
honestly, if that's the case, then people are so hard to please. first, its not only KH, it's KHFM in the collection. second, they are rendering so many scene for Days, they could have just not included it. third, the now allow us to skip cutscenes in FM. Fourth, and this pretty nice, they are updating the combat system. that doest happen in a lot of HD collections, except for a few button swaps, but here they re adding in the reaction command to the menu. this is a fantastic HD collection, and if people want to call it lazy, then that is just too sad.
Look the sly cooper HD collection. in sly1 2 and 3, Carmelita Fox is voiced by different VA's in all three games, but they kept them all in there. THAT is lazy collection. nothing is changed but the graphic enhancements and a few minigames (that some require the move). so i don't think the VA not changing should make ppl unhappy....except for Mena LOL
honestly, if that's the case, then people are so hard to please. first, its not only KH, it's KHFM in the collection. second, they are rendering so many scene for Days, they could have just not included it. third, the now allow us to skip cutscenes in FM. Fourth, and this pretty nice, they are updating the combat system. that doest happen in a lot of HD collections, except for a few button swaps, but here they re adding in the reaction command to the menu. this is a fantastic HD collection, and if people want to call it lazy, then that is just too sad.
Look the sly cooper HD collection. in sly1 2 and 3, Carmelita Fox is voiced by different VA's in all three games, but they kept them all in there. THAT is lazy collection. nothing is changed but the graphic enhancements and a few minigames (that some require the move). so i don't think the VA not changing should make ppl unhappy....except for Mena LOL
Mena isn't bad as a actor, she was Heather in American Pie 1 and 2.
Why are they recasting KH1 in the HD Remix for? Can't they just recycle all the voice overs in both KH1 and KH Re:COM? I mean look at all the HD collections they did not recast
They aren't recasting for KH1. Not that we are aware, at least.
Nobody wants that anyways.
Then people will call it lazy if the voices don't change.
Why would Square Enix be called lazy if they don't re-cast for a 10 year old game? It makes sense that they wouldn't re-cast for it.
Sorry guys I did not mean to act like a jerk. I'm still new and a old school KH fan and I guess I'm asking to much lol ^.^
Okay but then what about Namine's VA? I assume they won't bring back Britney Snow for Namine seeing as she only ever voiced Namine in 2 and Meghan Jette Martin in ever other KH game Nami's been in.
I'd be fine either, though honestly. I think Meghan gave more life to Nami than Britney did in her short role as Namine and Im not just saying that because Im used to Meghan.
It's a shame though that Christopher Lee possibly can't come back as Ansem/Diz. I thought he was an amazing voice actor for Ansem/Diz. But if it has to be Corey Burton, Im fine with that too.
Hopefully Vincent returns. I love Zexion. He's awesome. I hope Epcar possibly returns too. I think he's a much better suited voice for Ansem SOD/Xehanort...
They'd most likely get Meghan back. Especially since she was Namine in Re:CoM and Days happens at the same time, for the most part.
Why are they recasting KH1 in the HD Remix for? Can't they just recycle all the voice overs in both KH1 and KH Re:COM? I mean look at all the HD collections they did not recast
...They're not. This is for the 358/2 Days scenes. A good 90% of which have never been voiced before.
And if they don't bring back Richard Epcar, I'm sure it's because he already recorded his dialogue a while ago during the original Days release. After all, Xehanort was only in one scene.
Oh, and the Epcar VS Zane war is still going on? I thought people would've moved past that...
HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT WANT TO HEAR THIS IN THE GAME *SOB*
HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT WANT TO HEAR THIS IN THE GAME *SOB*
Haha, good point. I for one love Larxene, she's was the only Org. XIII member I ever really feared. Her fighting style, dialogue, her character design, I'm surprised people don't like her
HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT WANT TO HEAR THIS IN THE GAME *SOB*
These scenes better be redone in HD and voiced.
Larxene's green eyes
IN HD
HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT WANT TO HEAR THIS IN THE GAME *SOB*
Okay these scenes have to be in the game. I actually think they could somewhat include even the tutorial days if they cutout the tutorial part.
Haha, good point. I for one love Larxene, she's was the only Org. XIII member I ever really feared. Her fighting style, dialogue, her character design, I'm surprised people don't like her
I think Larxene is great, she's really a great villain and her interaction with Sora, Roxas and Axel are priceless.
Mena Suvari voiced Aerith in KH2.
This brings me to wonder if they'll bother replacing Mandy Moore and mena suvari with the actress from crisis core.
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I read that as something else. Still fits.
I read that as something else. Still fits.
I'm certain it was also meant as something else but they weren't allowed to say it due to Disney being prude as always. :P
I'm certain it was also meant as something else but they weren't allowed to say it due to Disney being prude as always. :P
Or because it's a rated E10+ game and no rating board would let that pass?
Yeah, Disney does have to answer to them.
and clueless parents.
and anything else that controls society.
These scenes better be redone in HD and voiced.
The top one is most likely gonna be redone, but not the bottom one. Remember, he was talking to an NPC.
Anyways, I just wanna hear Demnyx's name actually spoken in the game. Since KH2, I've always pronounced it as Demnix.
...That is, if they include his scenes in the game.
But we still have a cap of Demyx sitting on a couch talking to Roxas. Granted that could just be restaging.
Why are they recasting KH1 in the HD Remix for? Can't they just recycle all the voice overs in both KH1 and KH Re:COM? I mean look at all the HD collections they did not recast
Because there will be scenes from the Final Mix version added, which were never voiced before. It would be really awkward to be playing as Sora with a childish pre-puberty voice for the whole game, then see one of those scenes where he suddenly has a much deeper voice, then go back to the higher voice. Although it may not be recast so much as redubbed...
Because there will be scenes from the Final Mix version added, which were never voiced before. It would be really awkward to be playing as Sora with a childish pre-puberty voice for the whole game, then see one of those scenes where he suddenly has a much deeper voice, then go back to the higher voice. Although it may not be recast so much as redubbed...
There weren't many new scenes in KHFM, and even less had Sora in them. The few that did include Sora where he did have a speaking role were able to recycle his lines from other scenes rather seamlessly. There's no need to redub them.
I didn't get to play KHFM but I remember a there was a scene where Sora fights Xemnas and he had his normal English speaking voice. Wonder of there will be a secret ending or something new? o.o
I didn't get to play KHFM but I remember a there was a scene where Sora fights Xemnas and he had his normal English speaking voice. Wonder of there will be a secret ending or something new? o.o
Xemnas/Enigmatic Man does not have spoken words in that scene. He just has silent lines that come on screen.
Nomura has already confirmed that there will be no new secret endings in 1.5 HD ReMIX.
Xemnas/Enigmatic Man does not have spoken words in that scene. He just has silent lines that come on screen.
I think she's talking about Sora being in English which she would right about. I know Sora has the lines "Who are you" and "What's that supposed to mean?" spoken in English
It would be epic if they got Paul St. Peter to dub for Xemnas' voice in that cutscene.
It would be epic if they got Paul St. Peter to dub for Xemnas' voice in that cutscene.
To be honest, I would actually like if they added his voice in for that scene too.
I'm mixed. I love the mystery behind the way EM didn't have a voice and it made the scene very eerie, but I think it'd be great if during the battle EM had battle grunts.
I think she's talking about Sora being in English which she would right about. I know Sora has the lines "Who are you" and "What's that supposed to mean?" spoken in English
Ohhh. Oops xD
Then in reference to that, those were recycled lines.
It was sort of like Sora's Dive to the Heart with how silent everything was.
For the sake of the amount of confusion it would bring to people unfamiliar with who the Enigmatic Man is in the first game I think they'll use Paul St. Peter to dub the voice.
But they don't need to, if people watch the FM secret ending and then Days, confusion would clear up easily.
why cater to people's confusion when it's only temporary?
Well. The Org. cloak is one thing, the ethereal blades is almost a dead give-away.
Notn withou KH2 they aren't, but "I've been to see him"
Just saying that there's not much point in trying to avoid confusing players. People who played KH2 would know who he is, whereas people who haven't will be confused regardless.
Oh, ok. We're on the same page, then.
I find those two not reprising their roles very unlikely. They probably haven't been contacted yet or they don't want to reveal anthing yet.
Eh, who knows if they've been contact yet. Personally, I hope they get called in soon. And whomever else is needed too :)
wow...I actually read through all that.
So, for the purposes of just stating my opinion and not intentionally trying to "start something back up," I'll say that I really love most every VA for KH. Larxene is amazing, in my opinion. I'm indifferent to the MenaVSMandy thing, though I would absolutely LOVE if Andrea Bowen was chosen as the official Aerith voice because in Crisis Core, she was perfection.
Can someone explain how Vexen's actor "blew up"?
Also, as for the Ansem thing (sorry), Billy Zane is the only one for me. Epcar's good...for another series or whatever, just he doesn't fit the bill for Xehanort or Ansem. He just sounds like a one-dimensional anime character...kinda like Naraku from Inuyasha (the voice was fitting for that type of character).
I don't think it's relevant to tell someone to move on because it's been years. That's like making a remake for the movie Grease with a new Danny Zuko and telling everyone to get over John Travolta because it's been so many years (you get the idea). Sorry, it's just Zane is so amazing, talented, and perfect as Ansem.
As for Namine...I've seen a lot of preference towards Brittany Snow, but I don't mind. Obviously, Snow isn't coming back.
I'm so glad to hear there are Final Mix scenes! Square is pretty smart to recycle the line found only in the obscure alternate Monstro scene. Without discovering that scene (10 years later lol), I never would have recognized it!
I don't think it's relevant to tell someone to move on because it's been years. That's like making a remake for the movie Grease with a new Danny Zuko and telling everyone to get over John Travolta because it's been so many years (you get the idea).
Well, Grease 2 was made without John Travolta.
Meanwhile, KH has had many sequels featuring the same character with a more consistent voice. I don't think it's a good comparison to compare something that was made with only one sequel without the main character of the first, to a game series with many sequels featuring the same character over and over again.
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