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Okay I think I understand stuff about Ava and Luxu better.
Okay let me try and break down "my" understanding.I think you're onto something here, but I have a few holes to poke in your theory (or really, questions to further investigate).
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None of this makes any sense to me...
If i had to guess I would say it might be related to how Demyx and Luxord joined the organizationSomething I just realized: if the world MoM is talking about is Quadratum, then the No Name keyblade must have been there at some point. When could it have happened?
Yeah I would really like an answer to this at some point as it just seemed really out of character to willingly rejoin the Organization,the only thing I can think of that might make sense is if Xigbar somehow convinced him to re-join by mentioning something about how if he helps Xehanort, Xigbar can help him reclaim his lost memories even then I’m not sure why anyone would trust Xigbar in the first place or believe anything he says.Still waiting for Nomura to tell us why Marluxia betrayed the Org the first time and decided to rejoin in KH3.
Not so. Ven may have that whole purity thing going for him, but he was a keyblade wielder to begin with through and through. Sora is a completely ordinary boy. That's what makes him (Sora) special. There's no one like him, at least, as far as we know.So according to the dialog the Master of Masters isn't originally from Daybreak Town? And it now seems to me that Ventus is the "Sora" of his worldline before it was completely destroyed. He seems to be just as special as Sora himself is right now.
In the character files, Marluxia said the next time he woke after his death in COM, he was already a vessel for Xehanort. The Seekers simply conscripted him, Larxene and Luxord; and Marluxia notes that Master Xehanort doesn’t care that they rebelled against Xemnas because he doesn’t see them as people - and can take control of them remotely if need be, as we know from 3D (and there have been whispers that he does the same in the Nort Court fight).Yeah I would really like an answer to this at some point as it just seemed really out of character to willingly rejoin the Organization,the only thing I can think of that might make sense is if Xigbar somehow convinced him to re-join by mentioning something about how if he helps Xehanort, Xigbar can help him reclaim his lost memories even then I’m not sure why anyone would trust Xigbar in the first place or believe anything he says.
Unfortunately I don’t think we will ever get a answer as I think Nomura‘s answer is he probably just needed another villain for the Real Organization XIII doesn’t matter if it makes sense for the character or not
Problem is that Vanitas in 3 is from the past, and Ventus already recombined with Vanitas in BBS's ending so he does have darkness currently.Another interesting thing to recall at this point is in ReMind, when Sora enters Ven's heart, we actually hear Darkness speak - distinct from Vanitas. In future Sora's time, this is after Vanitas was defeated in the Keyblade Graveyard, though chronologically, Vanitas still existed at that point. So uh... who knows
I think the fact that it was such a forceful separation is why he went into the coma.I may have to review the old videos again, but it kinda felt like Darkness just walked out of Ven casually (and temporarily) like it wasn't a big deal, compared to what we see later when Ven is forcibly split by Xehanort and it leaves Ven comatose.
What's interesting to me is this scene greatly resembles the Ven vs Vanitas fight when Vanitas has forcibly rejoined Ven. "How about I destroy you both!!" after Vantitas told him the x-blade is incomplete. I guess that's not truly a reshaping, or at least, Ven wasn't the one that did the reshaping.
Eh, I'm kinda rambling. But you may be right. Ven is in an endless cycle of this in a way.
That's a very logical reason for them to be connected to the legacy of the ancient Keyblade war.If i had to guess I would say it might be related to how Demyx and Luxord joined the organization
This is the kind of plot twist I love and the kind of plot twist I can see Nomura pulling. We've yet to see Elrena outside of her introduction to Lauriam and her finding out about Strelitzia's death.Great job as always, Sign. I sure hope your player makes it out of the mess in one piece.
A true dandelion. I hope it's Elrena that Luxu claims is the true dandelion. Just think about it. The true dandelion or light or whatever is the somebody of one of the nastiest, cruelest, most vile Nobodies around. The irony would be so delicious.
Judging by how Luxu acted, I presume sending in that thing in the Lifeboat was more of a personal decision and not something the MoM wanted. I just wonder how much that action would affect, or has affected, the MoM's plans.Maybe Ventus turns into a being of pure light and Luxu sends an empty vessel into the future for Ventus to inhabit, which if that does happen, would chronologically make him the very first replica being in the Kingdom Hearts series.
But it's an artificial body. We'd have to see if those laws apply here.The thing about sending a replica is that the "lifeboat" is supposed to rip heart from body meaning a body can't travel through it to the future I guess? So there has to be a heart in there?
Or Vanitas is Darkness, since chronologically, Darkness existed first and Vanitas could be an offspring of Darkness refuging itself inside Ventus.Honestly, I'm still banking on Darkness really being Vanitas and he ends up being one of the two threats to deal with, with the other being MoM.
I think this basically sums it all up.Okay I think I understand stuff about Ava and Luxu better.
Spoiler ShowLuxu told Ava all of this, the whole plan, and it devastated her. Ava realized her true role then and there wasn't to just keep light alive it was to keep her friends, the Foretellers, alive and that's why Ava showed up at the keyblade war. She wasn't there to fight, to win, or lose she was there to save who she could. Ava found the Foretellers, she spoke to them about the truth, and about the lifeboats. The foretellers returned to Daybreak Town as the world was being swallowed and took the lifeboats to escape destruction and travel time just like the MoM did. That's why all the lost masters vanished, they literally traveled time, and they were not set to reappear until they arrived at their way point. That point being beyond the end of the book and more importantly at a waypoint that existed beyond it, which was Luxu once he regained No Name. This is why once Xigbar picked it up all the Foretellers popped into existence, except Ava. Why? Because Ava has her own plans, her own mission, and she set herself up to appear at a different waypoint which Xigbar expected she would.
Mind you like 90% of this was seen by the MoM's eye so you know he deliberately set her up to be crushed and respond in turn by saving them. But I think that's why Ava is missing now, she knew if she showed up when the MoM wanted them to she just be playing into his hands. The only way to avoid being the MoM's puppet is to stay completely out of sight that key. So she played the role he wanted, she made the dandelions and she saved the Foretellers, but after that she was done being his puppet and went and did her own thing taking herself out of his vision. Part of me wonders if Ava was in contact with Xehanort/Xemnas, if she was the secret friend he talked to, and if the reason Xemnas refused to use his keyblade was because he was trying to keep the MoM blind to aid Ava. But I digress...
Going by our understanding there are three Daybreak Towns, and three 3 sets of 7 lifeboats. The real daybreak town the original game took place in, some parallel Daybreak Town the Dandelion escaped to, and a digital Daybreak Town that everyone from the second town was transferred into and imprisoned in. Going by this theory, and assuming each lifeboat is only good for 1 use, then the breakdown is something like this...
Set 1: MoM, Ava, Ira, Aced, Invi, Gula, ??? (maybe Luxu)
Set 2: True Dandelion, Maleficent, ????, ????, ????, ????, ????
Set 3: Maleficent, ????, ????, ????, ????, ????, ????
We know Skuld, Ventus, Lauriam, and Elrena all make it out of the data town, into this other worldline daybreak town, and end up in the future so the breakdown is something like this...
Set 1: MoM, Ava, Ira, Aced, Invi, Gula, ??? (maybe Luxu)
Set 2: True Dandelion, Maleficent, Skuld, Ventus, Lauriam, Elrena, ????
Set 3: Maleficent, Skuld, Ventus, Lauriam, Elrena, ????, ????
Given what we know Luxu saw only 5 travel time and we have very good reason to assume Brain also traveled so I think this breakdown is most likely
Set 1: MoM, Ava, Ira, Aced, Invi, Gula, ??? (maybe Luxu)
Set 2: True Dandelion, Maleficent, Skuld, Ventus, Lauriam, Elrena, Brain
Set 3: Maleficent, Skuld, Ventus, Lauriam, Elrena, Brain, Ephemer
So in the end Ventus ends up appearing using Xehanort as his waypoint because Xehanort had memories of UX AND No Name, Brain doesn't travel time instead once he was in the parallel Daybreak Town he used the boat to return to the original world rebuilding the ruined Daybreak into Scala, starting that new order, and setting up the regenerating world eventually growing up to sire Eraqus's line. Skuld showed up in RG because Luxu and No Name were both there. No idea what acted as Lauriam's and Elrena's way point, I assume Lauriam went and got Elrena. Meanwhile Ephemer stayed behind as the leader of the dandelions he wasn't just going to abandon the rest of them there. They found a way to survive and that cues him up for his appearance in KH3 where he sends the power of the dandelions to aid Sora.
We still don't know what's inside the Black Box. We were only given a clue, but Hirokey speculates that the Foretellers utilized the Lifeboats and ended up appearing in front of Luxu when he retrieves the Box because, since he recovered No Name and that Keyblade acts as a waypoint, that's the waypoint they needed in order to appear in present time KHTo confirm - is what is in the Black Box probably the medium by which all the foretellers (and the memories of Luxu) were able to use to come back at the current era?