Shanelle Gray Confirms Her Involvement in Kingdom Hearts 3
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- Published on April 26, 2018 @ 10:20 pm
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Last night, @sobpar sent a direct message to Shanelle Gray on Instagram, asking if she would be involved with Kingdom Hearts 3. While not expecting a reply, Shanelle replied with a single word: "yes".
Shanelle Gray voices Larxene, Organization XIII's twelth member who tormented Sora as he made his way deeper into Castle Oblivion. Larxene hasn't been seen in the Kingdom Hearts series since Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days released in 2009, and then was turned into HD cinematics in Kingdom Hearts 1.5 ReMIX.
Marluxia, Larxene's partner in Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories, was confirmed to be in Kingdom Hearts 3 in a trailer that premiered at D23 Japan back in February. Details on how Larxene, or whatever her human name might be, will fit into Kingdom Hearts 3 have not been confirmed.
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I'm almost certain she isn't a vessel. If Larxene does appear I imagine it will be as her human self. Please be in San Fronsokyo.
Given that Marluxia is back, it was only natural that Larxene would be returning in some form too, so I guess this isn't much of a surprise. It's nice to get some kind of confirmation though.
I'm very certain she's a vessel but it's nice to get confirmation from Gray she's coming back for Larxene and more proof that recording for English dubbing is presumably going smoothly.
I'm almost certain she isn't a vessel. If Larxene does appear I imagine it will be as her human self.
these arent really mutually exclusive. i'd love for her not to be one though, but with mar-mar coming back as a vessel, i just imagine so will his gal pal.
With all these English dub announcements, I guess the game truly is almost done.
these arent really mutually exclusive. i'd love for her not to be one though, but with mar-mar coming back as a vessel, i just imagine so will his gal pal.
Well I figured we would see the other three members in some form. I didn't think KH3 would end without finding out the backgrounds of Demyx, Luxord, and Larxene.
I still think there is a decent shot that she could just be a normal person instead of a vessel.
Has any fugue the somebody for yet?
Has any fugue the somebody for yet?
Can you repeat that, but this time make it a little bit clearer, please?
Yes has anyone figured her real name yet?
Elenar, probably. Maybe Arlene.
I really hope she isn't stuck in the Organization coat. Also hope Marluxia's been wearing his union outfit under there this whole time. He takes it off with his final bout with Sora! Hopefully anyway.
Larxene and Marluxia together wearing new duds in general would be just nice to see.
I’m a fan of Relena. I’ll be happy with whatever her role is as long as she’s still a savage. Lol
My KH3 hype is currently overpowering my Infinity War hype. I can’t be thinking about KH during this movie!
Laxene was a given, but it's still cool to have it confirm. I have a feeling feel we might see her in the big trailer. But I swear, if she's part of the new Organization I'm gonna punch something.
Elenar, probably. Maybe Arlene.
I'm fond of Narele myself.
Yay! She did an awesome job with voice acting for Larxene, imo. Now all I need is a Demyx confirm!
I'm really hoping that we get some backgrounds and names in KH3, though if we don't I'll be EXTREMELY surprised. I'm also hoping that Larxene, Demyx, and Luxord won't be vessels, but if Marluxia is part of the Organization i feel like we can count on Larxene too. In the very least her playing some villain role.
If she is a vessel what Disney world do you guys think she would tie in? Unless both her and Marluxia are causing trouble in Corona.
If she is a vessel what Disney world do you guys think she would tie in? Unless both her and Marluxia are causing trouble in Corona.
People are keen on San Fransokyo. They'd fit in with High Voltage, a villain duo from the series who use electricity:
I definitely see her in BH6. Makes the most sense given--
Oh, Chaser beat me to it.
Either way, I'm going to dread having my rear kicked in by Larxene again, aren't I?
I have to say, I think Larxene and Marluxia are both going to come back as their human selves, Lauriam and ?????.
I REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLYYY hope they do not have her be one of the 13 Darknesses for several reasons.
1) It would be unsurprising, as some have already mentioned, to just recycle the straggling Organization XIII members, and
2) I DO NOT like the idea of Larxene being a vessel for Master Xehanort, primarily because I do not want to look at Larxene and know that there's an old man inside her.
If she is a vessel what Disney world do you guys think she would tie in? Unless both her and Marluxia are causing trouble in Corona.
Arendelle. San Fransokyo is a popular choice, but I don't see the themes of that movie working with her whereas I can see Larxene's character being fleshed out more by being a big bad influence towards Elsa. Telling Elsa to let loose her powers and junk, basically being the evil interpretation of Let It Go.
But Isa and his cold, shut off heart works perfectly as a counterpoint to Elsa! Though, that would feel like a retreat of Xaldin and the Beast.
I'm actually surprised she just confirmed her involvement bluntly like that. Just a flat out "Yes".
I'm actually surprised she just confirmed her involvement bluntly like that. Just a flat out "Yes".
you rather her to post some vague answer that would have us debating for weeks if its a yes or no?
you rather her to post some vague answer that would have us debating for weeks if its a yes or no?
Maybe.
Yeah you'd think Disney would tell them to be tight lipped. Not that I'm complaining, we are getting KH3 news even before E3. Now we just need another world leak.
these arent really mutually exclusive. i'd love for her not to be one though, but with mar-mar coming back as a vessel, i just imagine so will his gal pal.
But we don't necessarily know that Marluxia is a vessel. His eyes aren't Xehanort-yellow. And yes, he's in the trademark black coat, but we know now that it's just a means of protection while traveling through the dark corridors, and Lea spent the entirety of DDD in his. Plus, Lauriam was around back in KHUX and the era of the MoM and Luxu, who also wore the coats, so if his "true organization" scheme is connected to his past then the coat could be related to that, not him being Norted. It's really just too soon to say at this point I think.
Yeah you'd think Disney would tell them to be tight lipped. Not that I'm complaining, we are getting KH3 news even before E3. Now we just need another world leak.
They sign NDAs. But she has so many projects and probably signs a bunch of NDAs and loses track of what she can and cannot talk about.
I also doubt she thought anybody would share this news on social media to be found.
But we don't necessarily know that Marluxia is a vessel. His eyes aren't Xehanort-yellow. And yes, he's in the trademark black coat, but we know now that it's just a means of protection while traveling through the dark corridors, and Lea spent the entirety of DDD in his. Plus, Lauriam was around back in KHUX and the era of the MoM and Luxu, who also wore the coats, so if his "true organization" scheme is connected to his past then the coat could be related to that, not him being Norted. It's really just too soon to say at this point I think.
Marluxia confirmed he was.
Famitsu confirmed he was.
This denial has got to go. His eyes not being yellow could easily be that he recently got Norted. Nomura confirmed back in the DDD ultimania or interview that the process for a vessel to become full on Xehanort is gradual.
I love Larxene, so I'm so happy she reappers in KH3!
Marluxia confirmed he was.
Famitsu confirmed he was.
Where did Marluxia/Famitsu confirm this? I haven't seen anything that set it in stone. Btw, I wasn't saying that Marluxia definitely isn't Norted, I was just saying that it might be too soon to tell. If it was confirmed I'd love to see the source.
Fami questions it, but they also question if Vanitas is a part of it so lol
| -The revival of the one thought to have withered away, Marluxia.(Bottom right, to the right of Marly’s head) -In place of the “Old†Organization XIII, blocking Sora’s path in KH3 is the “True†Organization XIII. Despite being defeated by Sora while apart of the Old Organization, Marluxia appears to also be a part of the new one? As for the reason for his revival, and whether his goals match with those of the True Organization XIII’s leader, Master Xehanort, all remain a mystery. (Bottom right, below Marly) After defeating Marluxia and his gang, who were all members of the Old Organization, Sora had his memory restored so he doesn’t remember them. In KH3, although Marluxia’s words suggest a reunion, Sora doubts having ever met him. (Bottom of page, text on Marluxia) In “Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memoriesâ€, using his position of power Marluxia attempts to overthrow the Organization XIII, however is stopped in his tracks when defeated by Sora. Additionally, in the series’ oldest story to date, “Kingdom Hearts Union Crossâ€, we encounter a figure named “Lauriam†who bears a striking resemblance to Marluxia. |
Edit: Also this:
Joining the True Organization XIII, Marluxia and Vanitas pose a huge threat. However, within Sora lie the connections he has formed with the friends he has met in his journeys, as well as with the ones of the journeys yet to come. Let’s take a closer look at the battle scenes of each world, and see these dashing friends performing their well coordinated Link Attacks with Sora. |
Where did Marluxia/Famitsu confirm this? I haven't seen anything that set it in stone. Btw, I wasn't saying that Marluxia definitely isn't Norted, I was just saying that it might be too soon to tell. If it was confirmed I'd love to see the source.
So....you didn't watch the trailer or read the Famitsu that plainly state it?
Fami questions it, but they also question if Vanitas is a part of it so lol
Another way of confirming them both basically lol.
| Joining the True Organization XIII, Marluxia and Vanitas pose a huge threat. |
She's definitely involved in her own world. Which means a lightning element based world. Any Disney movies ring a bell? Treasure Planet? Jungle Book?
hercules. full of the ol bang bang zap
hercules. full of the ol bang bang zap
So....you didn't watch the trailer or read the Famitsu that plainly state it?
I did watch the trailer, many times, and I read that article too. I've also watched tons of analysis videos as well. That Famitsu article sounded like just as much speculation as fact to me. For instance, they said this of the dark margin scene with Riku and Mickey:
| (Upper left screenshots of Riku & King Mickey at Dark Margin) Appearing countless times in the series as the stage for many important scenes, the Dark Margin. Could it be that they’ve come to search for her, the Keyblade Master? (Screenshot of Riku looking at Way to Dawn) “I’ll leave this here, for the other meâ€, Riku says, holding his broken Keyblade. How did the Keyblade get into that state? And who is this “other Rikuâ€? |
They don't sound like they know exactly what's going on for someone we're quoting as fact. They're just interpreting. Like I'm doing. And I think that it's possible for Marluxia to be either in or out of the new organization. Again, in my opinion, unless Nomura decides to drop in on this conversation, I believe it's really too soon to tell anything with absolute certainty.
I believe the direct translation for Marluxia's words in the trailer was "I am Marluxia, of the True Organization" or something like that.
I did watch the trailer, many times, and I read that article too. I've also watched tons of analysis videos as well. That Famitsu article sounded like just as much speculation as fact to me. For instance, they said this of the dark margin scene with Riku and Mickey:
They don't sound like they know exactly what's going on for someone we're quoting as fact. They're just interpreting. Like I'm doing. And I think that it's possible for Marluxia to be either in or out of the new organization. Again, in my opinion, unless Nomura decides to drop in on this conversation, I believe it's really too soon to tell anything with absolute certainty.
That's really reaching at this point and you know it. Marluxia's in the True Organization XIII. This is fact unless something in the game changes it. I also will leave it at that.
I believe the direct translation for Marluxia's words in the trailer was "I am Marluxia, of the True Organization" or something like that.
Yeah that's exactly what he said. True Organization XIII but apparently that means he is talking about the Dandelions or something ridiculous.
I'm liking this news. Larxene is probably my favorite Organization villain so it's good to get a direct confirmation that she'll be involved in KH3 in some capacity.
Please still be evil.
Yeah that's exactly what he said. True Organization XIII but apparently that means he is talking about the Dandelions or something ridiculous.
I think we've gone over this a few times, but the wording in Japanese was vague enough that things are still up for debate. What he says is not necessarily indicative of what he means, especially in a scene structured like the one in the D23 trailer. There's a very good chance Nomura's just trolling like usual and he is in the True Org., but there's a decent chance there's more to it as well. I wouldn't consider the D23 trailer or the Famitsu article conclusive, so while you're entitled to your perspective, I think it's fair game for others to advance their own theories and ideas until we get something concrete.
I think we've gone over this a few times, but the wording in Japanese was vague enough that things are still up for debate. What he says is not necessarily indicative of what he means, especially in a scene structured like the one in the D23 trailer. There's a very good chance Nomura's just trolling like usual and he is in the True Org., but there's a decent chance there's more to it as well. I wouldn't consider the D23 trailer or the Famitsu article conclusive, so while you're entitled to your perspective, I think it's fair game for others to advance their own theories and ideas until we get something concrete.
Thank you alexis.anagram. That's all I was trying to say.
Last night, @sobpar sent a direct message to Shanelle Gray
hercules. full of the ol bang bang zap
Larxene x Lightning
Marluxia is too seedy with his plans to overthrow Xemnas (did he know the true goal?) and now his involvement has expanded thanks to Union X. I just can't fathom his role in the series now is to be another vessel for Xehanort in the 'True Organization'. He's got some card up his sleeve, whether he's trying to still take Xehanort down or form his own Organization idk, but I just can't roll over and accept that he's a vessel for Xehanort. And I don't think a 20 second clip of him in a trailer and Famitsu theorising it is proof that that is his role.
Yessssss. Totally expected her to show up but nice to hear it!
Marluxia is too seedy with his plans to overthrow Xemnas (did he know the true goal?) and now his involvement has expanded thanks to Union X. I just can't fathom his role in the series now is to be another vessel for Xehanort in the 'True Organization'. He's got some card up his sleeve, whether he's trying to still take Xehanort down or form his own Organization idk, but I just can't roll over and accept that he's a vessel for Xehanort. And I don't think a 20 second clip of him in a trailer and Famitsu theorising it is proof that that is his role.
Same, I suppose, there is a chance he lets himself get norted so he can get the Keyblade, and somehow overcome Xehanort's control? I sorta think there is a chance for a few of them to overcome him, I just don't know how. But yeah, if that isn't the case and he is just controlled I would be super disappointed too.
Same, I suppose, there is a chance he lets himself get norted so he can get the Keyblade, and somehow overcome Xehanort's control?
This seems more likely for Xigbar imo. My guess is Marluxia is working with YX in some capacity on whatever his real plans are. That may or may not involve using the True Organization as cover, but like others I just can't persuade myself that: 1) MX would rely on Marluxia as a cornerstone for his grand scheme and 2) Marluxia would let MX use him that way. If the argument is made convincingly within the story, I'm open to it, but it just seems like a stretch right now to take it all at face value.
This seems more likely for Xigbar imo. My guess is Marluxia is working with YX in some capacity on whatever his real plans are. That may or may not involve using the True Organization as cover, but like others I just can't persuade myself that: 1) MX would rely on Marluxia as a cornerstone for his grand scheme and 2) Marluxia would let MX use him that way. If the argument is made convincingly within the story, I'm open to it, but it just seems like a stretch right now to take it all at face value.
Oh well yeah, I do sorta think that may be what Xigbar/Braig is doing as well lol. So in that case, I would prefer them to not do something similar with Marluxia. Braig and YX were up to some shady stuff together already in that extra scene in 2.5 right? Cuz yeah I guess I could see Mar getting in on that action.
man it will be kind of a let down if the remaining darknesses are just the stragglers from the old org. and there arent really any surprises.
Wasn't the formation of this new Organization XIII the result of the original Organization XIII not performing adequately either due to the weakness of will, strength and trust? Marluxia has validity to be in this new group because his (apparent) somebody is a Dandelion Union Leader, a character linked to The Keyblade War era.
Even if Larxene was to be from The Age of Fairy Tales, she's not a Union Leader like Marluxia, so for her to be involved with this new Organization doesn't make anywhere as much sense. Plus, Larxene doesn't speak a word to Marluxia in Chain of Memories despite apparently working alongside him, so I don't think these two have as strong of a camaraderie as we're led to believe.
Regardless, this news makes me so happy. 358/2 Days failed to make me invested in the members that were not Xehanort's or Axel so I welcome her character's return with open arms. That and Shanelle Gray is so talented as Larxene.
I'm actually surprised she just confirmed her involvement bluntly like that. Just a flat out "Yes".
That's my kind of jam, either say yes or no. It makes it even better since it's coming from Larxene's VA.
I have a hard time to believe that Marluxia would let anyone puppet him around or even be manipulated by his peers.
I have a hard time to believe that Marluxia would let anyone puppet him around or even be manipulated by his peers.
I wish you people stopped treating Marluxia like he's some infallible god.
I wish you people stopped treating Marluxia like he's some infallible god.
Sorry, but you cannot change someone's opinion. Whenever did I say he was overpowered? His character is a manipulator and he won't go down that easy without a fight. It would be interesting to see someone resisting Master Xehanort.
Sorry, but you cannot change someone's opinion. Whenever did I say he was overpowered? His character is a manipulator and he won't go down that easy without a fight. It would be interesting to see someone resisting Master Xehanort.
There is no opinion changing going on here. Just mild annoyance. And yes because he was such a good manipulator he didn't realize he was being set up to die by Xemnas and Saix. The amount of people who claim that Marluxia wouldn't let anyone play him or boss him around baffle me seeing as he was being bossed around and played by Xemnas as a member of Organization XIII even if later on he wanted to rebel. He went down about as easy as any of the bigger Organization member went down. He's not special in any way.
Also a vessel fighting back against Xehanort would be useless since it's literally stated by Nomura that Xehanort could take control over any of them if they try anything. So Xigbar, Vanitas, YX and even Marluxia can't do jack against Xehanort.
Has anyone seen this about Vexen’s voice actor not returning? We don’t see a name in the screenshot, so I question the validity.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/comments/8faybz/media_vexeneven_wont_return_for_kingdom_hearts_3/?st=JGI17XOR&sh=57beab27
Has anyone seen this about Vexen’s voice actor not returning? We don’t see a name in the screenshot, so I question the validity.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/comments/8faybz/media_vexeneven_wont_return_for_kingdom_hearts_3/?st=JGI17XOR&sh=57beab27
Maybe something happened with his contract or something or they got someone else to voice Even/Vexen. Though it is strange how he knows the recording is done with. Either one of the VAs told him or something else must have happened. Seems weird to me.
We don’t think it is real. He seems to know too much about his character and the differences between Vexen and Even. And if he didn’t record, how would he know that recording is finished?
Also the fact that it isn’t a full screencap. We didn’t report on Shanelle until we were sure the Twitter user had enough proof of her DMs, which they did.
That's my sentiment as well. The fact he knows recording is done despite not voicing the character seems weird to me.
Has anyone seen this about Vexen’s voice actor not returning? We don’t see a name in the screenshot, so I question the validity.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/comments/8faybz/media_vexeneven_wont_return_for_kingdom_hearts_3/?st=JGI17XOR&sh=57beab27
We don’t think it is real. He seems to know too much about his character and the differences between Vexen and Even. And if he didn’t record, how would he know that recording is finished? Perhaps somebody told him that, but I don’t think they would?
Also the fact that it isn’t a full screencap. We didn’t report on Shanelle until we were sure the Twitter user had enough proof of her DMs, which they did.
We don’t think it is real. He seems to know too much about his character and the differences between Vexen and Even. And if he didn’t record, how would he know that recording is finished? Perhaps somebody told him that, but I don’t think they would?
Also the fact that it isn’t a full screencap. We didn’t report on Shanelle until we were sure the Twitter user had enough proof of her DMs, which they did.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking as well. It seems a little strange. The screen grab does have a “seen by voiceoverprince†at the bottom. Even if this itself is faked, do we know if that is Derek Prince’s actual account?
Re: Larxene - I'm glad we got cofirmation that she's involved somehow in KH3's plot. I really liked her character, and it would be great for them to expand on her background. As to what world she could fit into, you guys have made strong points about Frozen and Big Hero. I'd like to take sides, but at this point, I HOENSTLY CARE ABOUT PLAYING THE GAME! Hahaha. xD
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Re: Organization XIII - I think it would make sense for the narrative to feature every single member of the Organization one way or another, seeing a show this is the conclusion of the Xehanort/Seekers of Darkness Saga, and the game that pretty much rose the KH franchise into its peak was KHII. So it only makes sense for the finale to feature the elements that KH2 introduced be touched upon once more and closed.
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Re: Marluxia - Personally, the only thing clear about Marluxia is that he is a part of the Xehanorganization. What isn't clear is whether or not he'll remain a vessel for the entirety of the game. Like Chaser said, there is enough material to makes us doubt Marluxia's role in KHIII. He was just introduced as a major character in KHUx, to now be reduced to a mere puppet? A character that tried to overthrow the first Organization? There is a lot going around on KH's narrative that, as of now, there's nothing clear concerning any of the characters, so it's safe to assume and make speculation regarding Y or X (get it? Y or X, Young Xehanort, heeheehee) character involvement in Xehanort's Seekers.
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Re: Master Xehanort - I think the old geezer has his limitations. Thirteen years ago he needed a vessel. So nowadays, he still needs it. I assume trying to control 13 vessels is too much of a strain for an old coot like him. It's possible that Marluxia intends to be Xehanortified to the point of finally gaining (or regaining) the ability of wielding a Keybade, and then wrestle out of the old man's control, but the point I'm trying to make here is that someone wil betray Xehanort because I don't think Xehanort will be able to keep up and possess everyone because of how old he has become, even though I think he is one of the series' most powerful characters.
I call dibs on Larxene's somebody's name being Elenar. It'd be a clever nod to the Final Fantasy VII character of the same name.
YES! Now I only need Dilan to return in Radiant Garden too.
Btw, I really think if Marluxia is a true org. member, she is as well. I'm pretty sure by now that whatever the true org. is doing, and how Marluxia seems to be allied with them, they both knew full well their role by the time CoM happened. Since Larxene and Marluxia were the only ones trully allied in the coup by the end of the game, I'm sure she'll be in the true org., I can't see her taking a different path from Marluxia at all.
About Demyx and Luxord though, I think they could really be something else. They gave us enough hints of their sensibilities in KHII to believe they have the tact to choose a better path, that is, if their own agenda was not already at play in KHII itself. Nomura means retcon, I'm sure he'll surprise us in some way.
The amount of people who claim that Marluxia wouldn't let anyone play him or boss him around baffle me seeing as he was being bossed around and played by Xemnas as a member of Organization XIII even if later on he wanted to rebel. He went down about as easy as any of the bigger Organization member went down. He's not special in any way.
That doesn't mean things couldn't be different this time.
Also a vessel fighting back against Xehanort would be useless since it's literally stated by Nomura that Xehanort could take control over any of them if they try anything.
Nomura says lots of things, and I don't believe a thing he says. The dude is making stuff up as he wants. I don't buy Marluxia being a SOD until I see it.
So Xigbar, Vanitas, YX and even Marluxia can't do jack against Xehanort.
You never know.
I call dibs on Larxene's somebody's name being Elenar. It'd be a clever nod to the Final Fantasy VII character of the same name.
I mean, it's possible. But her name is "Elena", without the "r". Axel/Lea is based on Reno, from the same game and they're in the same organization (the Turks). Axel and Reno also share their voce actor: Quinton Flynn.
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YES! Now I only need Dilan to return in Radiant Garden too.
I think that's pretty much a given.
That doesn't mean things couldn't be different this time.
Nomura says lots of things, and I don't believe a thing he says. The dude is making stuff up as he wants. I don't buy Marluxia being a SOD until I see it.
You never know.
So your argument boils down to "nuh uh I don't believe it" based on virtually nothing. Good to know. Very compelling argument.
Re: Master Xehanort - I think the old geezer has his limitations. Thirteen years ago he needed a vessel. So nowadays, he still needs it. I assume trying to control 13 vessels is too much of a strain for an old coot like him. It's possible that Marluxia intends to be Xehanortified to the point of finally gaining (or regaining) the ability of wielding a Keybade, and then wrestle out of the old man's control, but the point I'm trying to make here is that someone wil betray Xehanort because I don't think Xehanort will be able to keep up and possess everyone because of how old he has become, even though I think he is one of the series' most powerful characters.
I'm not quite sure how big the whole "he's old" thing plays into how much power he has over his vessels. I mean yeah the only time his age came at a hindrance was when he wanted to take Terra's body for his own so he could survive long enough to see the second Keyblade War. Age could arguably be used for his battle with Terra in the KG but then that could be explained that Xehanort held back because he didn't want to destroy his potential vessel. So seeing as there's been shown no indication as-of-yet of him having trouble with any of his other 12 vessels excluding Terra who's only able to fight back presumably because of Eraqus, I don't see any reason to doubt he can't control them all however he pleases. But there probably could be some twists in the game from the heroes that could help throw off his control somehow.
Though we should probably get back on topic on Larxene. I do hope they do something interesting with her and she gets some proper conclusion since she was easily far more interesting and entertaining than Marluxia during COM.
I mean, it's possible. But her name is "Elena", without the "r". Axel/Lea is based on Reno, from the same game and they're in the same organization (the Turks). Axel and Reno also share their voce actor: Quinton Flynn.
Of course, but the letter difference wouldn't be too big of a deal as long as the reference is intentional. Axel, Larxene and Vexen debuted in Chain of Memories, and Axel and Vexen seem to be based of Reno (like you said) and Hojo respectively with the same voice actors. Having Larxene's somebody be a nod to The Turks/Shinra makes the Final Fantasy VII reference complete.
After all, Axel, Vexen and Larxene represent Fire, Ice and Thunder yet only two out of the three are nods to Final Fantasy VII.
So your argument boils down to "nuh uh I don't believe it" based on virtually nothing. Good to know. Very compelling argument.
No need to be confrontational, there's a difference between disagreeing and assuming that you can't be proven wrong.
Of course, but the letter difference wouldn't be too big of a deal as long as the reference is intentional. Axel, Larxene and Vexen debuted in Chain of Memories, and Axel and Vexen seem to be based of Reno (like you said) and Hojo respectively with the same voice actors. Having Larxene's somebody be a nod to The Turks/Shinra makes the Final Fantasy VII reference complete.
After all, Axel, Vexen and Larxene represent Fire, Ice and Thunder yet only two out of the three are nods to Final Fantasy VII.
No need to be confrontational, there's a difference between disagreeing and assuming that you can't be proven wrong.
If you actually consider that confrontational, then I don't know what to tell you..
I'm sorry but the response given to me was basically what I typed out which was "Nuh uh I don't believe it."
If you actually consider that confrontational, then I don't know what to tell you.
Well, it definitely isn't friendly that's for sure.
Look, we can't speak definitively about Marluxia and Larxene because all we know is that they're appearing and that's as far as it goes. The best we know about Marluxia is that he's involved in The Kingdom of Corona with The Seekers of Darkness and that's literally it. We don't know how loyal he is to Xehanort, Xehanort's influences on him and his intentions. We don't even know if he's still a somebody or not (yeah, Marluxia is his nobody's name but his animation is parallel to Lauriam's with the hand gestures).
So your argument boils down to "nuh uh I don't believe it" based on virtually nothing. Good to know. Very compelling argument.
If I don't have any sign of proof, why would I want to rule out or believe in anything? You said yourself that according to you
(Marluxia is not special) Have you forgotten about possibly Lauriam. Why rule out any chance that he or any of the other Organization members would not have their own motives for this time? You must have surely heard about theories surrounding YMX & Vanitas possibly backstabb MX?
Have we learned anything about KH3's plot outside of the short description of the game? We don't know enough about MX True Organization. With so little info on the main plot how can one even want to assume anything?
I see no reason to say "Yeah this won't happen, because something Nomura stated".
From what Nomura's said in the past, there really is no surprise that his words aren't taken serious.
Hold on! Are you saying that because I don't want to assume (because of no proof) that my point is non-compelling? You replied to my post. No surprise I would want to know what you wanted said.
My question to you is, what point are you trying to make?
Called it but who was the one that was so sure that Larxene,Luxord and Demyx wouldn't return? Hmm. That's 2/3 now.
Well, it definitely isn't friendly that's for sure.
Look, we can't speak definitively about Marluxia and Larxene because all we know is that they're appearing and that's as far as it goes. The best we know about Marluxia is that he's involved in The Kingdom of Corona with The Seekers of Darkness and that's literally it. We don't know how loyal he is to Xehanort, Xehanort's influences on him and his intentions. We don't even know if he's still a somebody or not (yeah, Marluxia is his nobody's name but his animation is parallel to Lauriam's with the hand gestures).
I'm pretty sure he's a somebody again. Why in the world wouldn't he be? Even Nomura hinted in the DDD ultimania at the missing members likely being recompleted before being taken by Xehanort. Marluxia being a vessel for Xehanort means that Xehanort has control over him just like he does his other vessels. Why Marluxia is going with this is an unknown I will admit to that. Could be his greed for the keyblade or something more. We'll have to wait for the game to find those answers but as of now there's nothing to suggest any of the seekers could overcome Xehanort's control.
Same business with Larxene since while I like her and prefer she's not with the seekers, it would make more sense for her to be with them since Marluxia is with them since like Audo said, Larxene was basically Marluxia's right hand woman.
If I don't have any sign of proof, why would I want to rule out or believe in anything? You said yourself that according to you
(Marluxia is not special) Have you forgotten about possibly Lauriam. Why rule out any chance that he or any of the other Organization members would not have their own motives for this time? You must have surely heard about theories surrounding YMX & Vanitas possibly backstabb MX?
Have we learned anything about KH3's plot outside of the short description of the game? We don't know enough about MX True Organization. With so little info on the main plot how can one even want to assume anything?
I see no reason to say "Yeah this won't happen, because something Nomura stated".
From what Nomura's said in the past, there really is no surprise that his words aren't taken serious.
Hold on! Are you saying that because I don't want to assume (because of no proof) that my point is non-compelling? You replied to my post. No surprise I would want to know what you wanted said.
My question to you is, what point are you trying to make?
We literally know nothing about Lauriam nor do we even know how important he will be in the grand scheme of things.
We also know plenty of Xehanort's True Organization as it was literally described in DDD.
I'm sorry but you having no proof or sign of anything =/= the stated in game facts or Nomura's words are incorrect.
If you actually consider that confrontational, then I don't know what to tell you..
I'm sorry but the response given to me was basically what I typed out which was "Nuh uh I don't believe it."
Let's just agree to disagree. Or better, let's just agree to not treat our opinions as fact until we've got either the game or a more conclusive trailer to prove it. This could honestly go either way. And please don't say the trailer/famitsu was conclusive enough, because I've seen far more people on here saying it seems unlikely than agreeing Marluxia is just another Norted organization member. Frankly, with Nomura at the helm, this plot could go anywhere...
Let's just agree to disagree. Or better, let's just agree to not treat our opinions as fact until we've got either the game or a more conclusive trailer to prove it. This could honestly go either way. And please don't say the trailer/famitsu was conclusive enough, because I've seen far more people on here saying it seems unlikely than agreeing Marluxia is just another Norted organization member. Frankly, with Nomura at the helm, this plot could go anywhere...
The trailer was conclusive enough to me and Famitsu went on to clarify the meaning of what he said in said trailer since many people were going with the incorrect subs that were released that day and saying "He means Dandelions or his own group". It doesn't matter what you and a few others have said about it. That is what is established as fact until something within the game changes it whether through the heroes or something else.
And with that I'm done talking about Marluxia since he's not even a character that I care about. Its Larxene that I'm excited about which is what this thread is about and my blame for helping to derail it into this annoying Marluxia debacle. This is the last I will say about it here.
We don’t think it is real. He seems to know too much about his character and the differences between Vexen and Even. And if he didn’t record, how would he know that recording is finished? Perhaps somebody told him that, but I don’t think they would?
Also the fact that it isn’t a full screencap. We didn’t report on Shanelle until we were sure the Twitter user had enough proof of her DMs, which they did.
it looks like another person has asked him for what it's worth
https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/comments/8fdkdm/kh3_spoiler_message_from_vexens_va/
So are we not going to see the castle guards or other scientists? I never thought they would have large roles but I would be shocked if they didn't appear at all.
I feel like something would be missing if everyone from the old Organization didn't return. :(
it looks like another person has asked him for what it's worth
https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/comments/8fdkdm/kh3_spoiler_message_from_vexens_va/
Thanks!
So are we not going to see the castle guards or other scientists? I never thought they would have large roles but I would be shocked if they didn't appear at all.
Since Vexen's Japanese VA passed away, it is very possible they will either just have Even as an off-screen character or he won't have any speaking lines. Or they will do this thing where they alter the character slightly and hire a new VA in Japanese, prompting them to hire a new English VA to match the change in the character.
Thanks!
Since Vexen's Japanese VA passed away, it is very possible they will either just have Even as an off-screen character or he won't have any speaking lines. Or they will do this thing where they alter the character slightly and hire a new VA in Japanese, prompting them to hire a new English VA to match the change in the character.
I see. I'd be fine if Even didn't have a speaking role. I just hope that the others such as Aeleus and Ienzo have dialogue.
If he's included in the game (which I hope he is at least a little) they might just have his lines as readable text instead of voiced. Which would be fine, I can't imagine he'd have a massive role anyways. Unless Riku's "other me" is Repliku. Then he might be more important. But who knows about that.
I think its more likely Even isn't there at all or doesn't speak. I guess he was involved in some interesting aspects of the old Organizations' plans like the replica project, but I dunno if they will really talk about that at this point anyway? We have gotten to see his Somebody, and I think all the CoM members were interesting and developed-ish in their own game alone so I guess him not getting anything else wouldn't be such a shame.
If he's included in the game (which I hope he is at least a little) they might just have his lines as readable text instead of voiced. Which would be fine, I can't imagine he'd have a massive role anyways. Unless Riku's "other me" is Repliku. Then he might be more important. But who knows about that.
They didn't had readable text lines in BBS or DDD tho, except when you just walk up to them and talk in the over world I think? I guess he could just speak in that way. But I don't see them going backward in regards to cutscenes being fully voiced tho.
They didn't had readable text lines in BBS or DDD tho, except when you just walk up to them and talk in the over world I think? I guess he could just speak in that way. But I don't see them going backward in regards to cutscenes being fully voiced tho.
That's what I was thinking. Like, if Sora visits HB/RG castle and some of the old organization members are back as their Others. Maybe you could speak with them in the overworld. If they do choose to include all the members it would be an easy way to avoid the JP VA problem.
I call dibs on Larxene's somebody's name being Elenar. It'd be a clever nod to the Final Fantasy VII character of the same name.
You don't get to call dibs on something that Audo said on the first page and other people have been saying, self included, for a decade.
On top of that, Elena’s name is Elena not Elenar. Let Elena be Elena and whatever Larxene’s real name is be her name.
I remember Kirbopher at one point came up with his own theory about Larxene's name and why the word Larxene itself could already be a nod to Elena of the Turks.
It was a really convincing thought. ...If only I remembered even half of it.
Anyway, Larxene confirmed, great. Now I can stop worrying about her somehow not being in Kh III and start worrying how they're gonna write her. I don't expect anything over the top (she's a character that performs best in simple roles), but I hope it's less... henchman-like. Henchwoman? Henchlady?
I remember Kirbopher at one point came up with his own theory about Larxene's name and why the word Larxene itself could already be a nod to Elena of the Turks.
It was a really convincing thought. ...If only I remembered even half of it.
Anyway, Larxene confirmed, great. Now I can stop worrying about her somehow not being in Kh III and start worrying how they're gonna write her. I don't expect anything over the top (she's a character that performs best in simple roles), but I hope it's less... henchman-like. Henchwoman? Henchlady?
Unfortunately if she is a vessel I think it will definitely be as a Henchlady. She's just second fiddle to bigger members such as, well, every other member introduced.
You don't get to call dibs on something that Audo said on the first page and other people have been saying, self included, for a decade.
You're taking my previous comment way too seriously. Relax. Can't we just be happy that a lot of people share the possibility of her being called Elenar? even if she's not called that, it's cool that she's back at the very least (hopefully as a somebody).
Edit: And regarding Even's voice actor's comment, that's such a shame honestly. Vexen was responsible for creating Xion and Replica Riku.
Maybe Even has a new VA...
I'm in the boat that her name will probably turn out to be Arlene. Then again, it's not like the nobodies ever had normal names to begin with. "Xehanort" is just one level more subtle than "Taserface" when it comes to villain names.
Am I the only one lowkey hoping Marluxia is a double agent and he & Larxene are plotting something to overthrow the Xehanorg? Because boy oh boy, that would be fun.
Am I the only one lowkey hoping Marluxia is a double agent and he & Larxene are plotting something to overthrow the Xehanorg? Because boy oh boy, that would be fun.
I'd be chill with that! It'd be fun to see Xehanort ticked off because he got double crossed by the same dude twice.
Wait a sec, regarding Vexen's voice actor, shouldn't his name have that Verified icon next to it?
Wait a sec, regarding Vexen's voice actor, shouldn't his name have that Verified icon next to it?
I've checked, it's his legitimate account.
I wonder what are the odds that Larxene (with her somebody name) is featured in KHUX soon, involved with Lauriam in a plan that they're still executing?
I wonder what are the odds that Larxene (with her somebody name) is featured in KHUX soon, involved with Lauriam in a plan that they're still executing?
please no
I wonder what are the odds that Larxene (with her somebody name) is featured in KHUX soon, involved with Lauriam in a plan that they're still executing?
First they need to get back to the story before I could even consider Larxene appearing in UX. I don't think JP has had original story since September last year?
Am I the only one lowkey hoping Marluxia is a double agent and he & Larxene are plotting something to overthrow the Xehanorg? Because boy oh boy, that would be fun.
Lol I'm sure that will work out splendidly like it did the last time.
I wonder what are the odds that Larxene (with her somebody name) is featured in KHUX soon, involved with Lauriam in a plan that they're still executing?
Most definitely no. It's bad enough that they're forcing Ventus and Marluxia into KHUX but please leave Larxene out of that mess. I prefer they actually just have her appear in KHIII first and maybe try to expand on her there instead of relying on KHUX once again.
I wonder what are the odds that Larxene (with her somebody name) is featured in KHUX soon, involved with Lauriam in a plan that they're still executing?
Yeah....no. I'm fine with Ven and Marly, but Larxene showing up in UX would just be way too much for its nonexistant story
For me to care/want Larx in Ux, the game should've been a different thing from the start, and be completely open about being another game focused on the current KH saga where we would've seen familiar characters and learnt about their past and connections. If that was the premise then sure, I'm up for giving more screentime to certain people. If the current era insists on showing me friggin Dilan of all people I wouldn't mind something for Maluxia, Larxene and an expansion to Ven's misterious past.
But the way they've been doing it, I got my own idea and affections for the X setting which became its own story to keep track of, and then I got other characters seemingly out of nowhere. So instead of being fun and engaging, these additions feel out of place and dissonant to me.
Unfortunately if she is a vessel I think it will definitely be as a Henchlady. She's just second fiddle to bigger members such as, well, every other member introduced.
Yeah, that's the cause of concern for the entire Org unless they can cleverly write around it.
At this point I'm just hoping for anything better than the bare minimum, like "hah I'm *insert name*, Sora you are weak monologue monologue the darkness in you now we fight ahhh now I'm gone this cannot beeeeee"
Like, Larxene was one of the traitors. And the fact that she's actually the one Marluxia interacts less (of the people he interacted with, course) and didn't really gave her any orders makes me feel they were accomplices on equal ground, rather than boss and right hand. Given how Marluxia now could have his own Ux-related agenda, it's not impossible the sheer plan of rebellion might've been Larxene's idea from the start.
You can work something meaningful from that.
Most definitely no. It's bad enough that they're forcing Ventus and Marluxia into KHUX.
I can definitely see why Lauriam's origin in The Age of Fairy Tales can be argued as forced because Marluxia didn't show any indication of knowing Keyblade Wielders outside Sora, but Ventus, on the other hand, had enough groundwork for his origins to make sense.
In Birth by Sleep, his past was a mystery and his Station of Awakening is The Keyblade Graveyard. It can also justify why Master Xehanort took an interest in Ventus outside of initially being his pupil.
Personally, I'm more confused as to why people are pairing Marluxia and Larxene just because they conspired to overthrow Organization XIII as Nobodies. Outside of that plan, they have no character dynamic.
it looks like another person has asked him for what it's worth
https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/comments/8fdkdm/kh3_spoiler_message_from_vexens_va/
i guess sometime bad stuff like passing away ccause other thing to happen and there nothing you can do about it i guess
I just realized there is a chance that Larxene will be Kairi's opponent during the clash at the keyblade graveyard. I've always wanted those two to have a one on one, lol.
I just realized there is a chance that Larxene will be Kairi's opponent during the clash at the keyblade graveyard. I've always wanted those two to have a one on one, lol.
Sad that Even may have no role in KH3. I thought he'd at least be somewhere in the background on Radiant Garden. Really happy it looks like Larxene's back! The character was their most entertaining/effective villain, imo.
KH3 has already been recorded (according to him)? That makes it sound like they're done with recording already, but wouldn't that be a little too early? I have little to no clue about how the voice acting process works in games but yeah, kinda surprised to see that.
I think Even not showing up may also have to do with his Japanese voice passing away in 2010.
That's, of course, what I believe to be the case for Prince not returning and for the case of Even still being in a coma during DDD.
Either way, it's still a bit weird he'd know something about recording being done so soon.
KH3 has already been recorded (according to him)? That makes it sound like they're done with recording already, but wouldn't that be a little too early? I have little to no clue about how the voice acting process works in games but yeah, kinda surprised to see that.
recording doesnt take that long. feb-april is likely enough time.
https://out.reddit.com/t3_8flevi?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FRobin_A_Downes%2Fstatus%2F961741071091773440&token=AQAAb-TkWpYzAZZmB9mog_dNdIF8rHt0Ludx0SnRBE3lSJudf3o4&app_name=mweb2x
Would be cool if they brough back Luxord.
Yes!
That would be great. (please bring him back)
https://out.reddit.com/t3_8flevi?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FRobin_A_Downes%2Fstatus%2F961741071091773440&token=AQAAb-TkWpYzAZZmB9mog_dNdIF8rHt0Ludx0SnRBE3lSJudf3o4&app_name=mweb2x
Would be cool if they brough back Luxord.
I mean, that one chess piece with a pair of dice atop it during the Xehanort and Eraqus scene has still been enough to convince me he very much will be lol.
If that's one of the things he is working on tho, that does contradict the acting being done already ha.
luxord is intresing where would fit in terms a disney world
I mean, that one chess piece with a pair of dice atop it during the Xehanort and Eraqus scene has still been enough to convince me he very much will be lol.
If that's one of the things he is working on tho, that does contradict the acting being done already ha.
Actually the tweet came out in Febuary which would fit into Audo's statement of Feb-April for the voice acting.
luxlord is intresing where would fit in terms a disney world
Treasure Planet. He already did one pirate themed world.
Ugh.. I'm not scrolling through 8 pages, but yes. I don't know how I feel about her return if it means she is one of the Organization XIII's Darknesses, if we're jumping the gun in guessing why the VO is returning. She and Marly were traitors. It was assumed she fell into one of the categories Xemnas told Sora about in DDD, weakness of trust. I guess we'll see.
I love Larxene, I just hope her involvement is implemented some other fashion.
Well(assuming one of Robert's projects is KH3) guess it's time to start speculating his original name. Might be a bit tricky.
Downes' tweet was from February, so it's possible that he already finished recording Luxord's lines.
Anyway, can't wait for British Miller to beat me up.
recording doesnt take that long. feb-april is likely enough time.
Interesting if true. Guess the game is more far along than I thought even though I already believed in 2018. Now I see what people mean when they say they don't like percentages for determining development progress lol.
Well(assuming one of Robert's projects is KH3) guess it's time to start speculating his original name. Might be a bit tricky.
Lord U
I saw someone guess Dr. Lou and I have to admit, it’s pretty smart to consider Dr. a part of his Org name ahahahahahahaha
So if we take Marluxia, Larxene, and Luxord as members then that means the twelve seats are covered.
1. Master Xehanort
2. Xemnas.
3. Ansem.
4. Young Xehanort.
5. Braig.
6. Isa.
7. Vanitas
8. Kh1 Riku/Repliku
9. Terranort
10. Larxene
11. Marluxia
12. Luxord.
All that's left is the unknown thirteenth member.
Lord U
Brilliant, lol
So if we take Marluxia, Larxene, and Luxord as members then that means the twelve seats are covered.
1. Master Xehanort
2. Xemnas.
3. Ansem.
4. Young Xehanort.
5. Braig.
6. Isa.
7. Vanitas
8. Kh1 Riku/Repliku
9. Terranort
10. Larxene
11. Marluxia
12. Luxord.
All that's left is the unknown thirteenth member.
Brilliant, lol
*scratches out 8 and replaces it with demyx*
lol i will actually be really disappointed if this is the list. like, all that build up of who is a member and its just... the most obvious people ever, no surprises? idk. im glad i never spent all that much time theorizing about their identities if that's the case lol
*scratches out 8 and replaces it with demyx*
lol i will actually be really disappointed if this is the list. like, all that build up of who is a member and its just... the most obvious people ever, no surprises? idk. im glad i never spent all that much time theorizing about their identities if that's the case lol
The lack of surprise in regards to the twelve members doesn't bother me too much. The real mystery was always going to be the identity of Sora's replacement.
According to Mr. Prince, recording for KH3 is already finished.
I'm curious how he knew KH3 was done recording if he was never contacted to voice Even. Unless one of his former co-workers told him.
va community is pretty small. i'm sure he knew his friends/peers were being called in.
Is there any knowledge of what the Japanese voice acting status is? Do they record the entire game in Japanese before they start the English dub? I would suspect so, especially with the voice acting in the trailers. It’s probably been done since like January.
P.S. If English recording started in February and is now finished, that third section with no specified percentage must have at least been far enough along to do the cutscenes, right? I’d think that would be pretty far along.
It would make no sense for Marluxia or Larxene to be a vessel(imo)....if they are not time dispalced versions of themselves
It would make no sense for Marluxia or Larxene to be a vessel(imo)....if they are not time dispalced versions of themselves
How do you figure?
How do you figure?
They are traitors. I can't think of a plot reason why they would agree to be vessels. Besides Terra's situation I don't think anyone has been forced to become a vessel.
They are traitors
Saix says hi. Terra and Sora also want a word in.
*scratches out 8 and replaces it with demyx*
lol i will actually be really disappointed if this is the list. like, all that build up of who is a member and its just... the most obvious people ever, no surprises? idk. im glad i never spent all that much time theorizing about their identities if that's the case lol
Ditto. I stopped discussing that real soon.
They are traitors. I can't think of a plot reason why they would agree to be vessels. Besides Terra's situation I don't think anyone has been forced to become a vessel.
Sora was forced. It's dubious how much Riku knew about it when Ansem was leading him astray. We still don't know anything about how Saix was coherced. And I don't think Vanitas had much of a choice.
Actually, Xigbar is the only non-already Xehanort to have willingly accepted as far as we know.
Saix says hi. Terra and Sora also want a word in.
Xigbar is in the corner, thinking about joining in.
Nice, now can anyone confirm with Hayden?
After seeing people trying to go after Ryan O'Donohue (who doesn't have social media) and Vincent Corazza (who said the NDA he signed when he joined the series forbids him for confirming any future involvement), I have to say please don't go bugging the VAs and trying to get them to break their Non-Disclosure Agreements :(
We're all excited about characters returning to the series, and it was great to know that Larxene is looking like a lock for KH3, but now with people going around trying to get as many people as possible to confirm or deny their involvement I think it should stop. Whether they appear in a trailer or we have to wait until the game launches, I think the surprise factor of these characters returning would be much better than a VA breaking NDA.
Not even Troy Baker and Nolan North were able to announce that they did voice work for God of War (though would even be surprised by this?) and Square Enix are notorious about keeping voice actors under wraps (We knew the French voice actors for FFXV months before we knew the English crew (who signed on during the Duscae recordings) and we only learnt who the English voices would be because of the Kingsglaive credits).
So please don't go and pester voice actors!
Yeah there seems to have been a shift from "oh the VA said they did recording, yay recording has happened" to people like... actively trying to find out every character that hasn't been announced if they're in the game by trying to coax their VA to break NDA.
This has just spiraled out of control. Better to stop pestering the VAs and wait for Jesse to slip up again.
I'm not sure what I should think about this. On one hand, it is good to use some of the underused KH characters that haven't really had the chance to shine instead of creating just more characters in a series that is already very overloaded, but on the other hand, why did they introduced the OGXIII so early in the KH series if so many of the members only now play a huge role?
I'm not sure what I should think about this. On one hand, it is good to use some of the underused KH characters that haven't really the chance to shine instead of creating just more characters in a series that is already very overloaded, but on the other hand, why did they introduced the OGXIII so early in the KH series if so many of members only now play a huge role?
I don't think Nomura planned this far in advance. Sure, I won't rule out he might've already had some ideas for this or that character's future involvement, but I think the Organization was created for CoM and KH II and making most of it come back was a decision he made later.
It's more of a "next" role than a "huge" one, if you get what I mean.
I'm not sure what I should think about this. On one hand, it is good to use some of the underused KH characters that haven't really the chance to shine instead of creating just more characters in a series that is already very overloaded, but on the other hand, why did they introduced the OGXIII so early in the KH series if so many of members only now play a huge role?
Because it's smart character allocation. Axel was popular in Chain of Memories and Kingdom Hearts II so give him a further backstory in 358/2 Days. Xigbar is number II in Organization XIII despite not doing much in the second numbered game, give him more backstory through Birth by Sleep on how he got his position. Marluxia was a boss with three different forms despite being non-existent from every other game after that? make him a time-displaced character to revive interest in him again.
Kingdom Hearts' charm is that it's character driven. Somebody resonates with an original character in the series. However, some are less fleshed out than others, so it only makes sense to make the less developed characters more developed to increase their value to the series.
People are still asking VAs:
this needs to stop
See, IDK if that was him.
He's approved the page but it was created by two other people. He might not be the one in control of the page.
It's funny cause Even and Dilan were stated by Aeleus to be unstable after restoration. I sure hope that didnt leave them in comas throughout KH3, lol.
At this point (and not to sound like a negative nancy) but someone really needs to say something to Square to make people stop bothering the VAs.
I'm actually feeling a tad bit frustrated now that people keep pestering the VAs.
You know it just occured to me that Luxord's ability is time. Since we know time travel plays a part in the new organization I wonder if that will be an important plot element. Maybe we will get some backstory on Luxord's human self like Lauriam
You know it just occured to me that Luxord's ability is time. Since we know time travel plays a part in the new organization I wonder if that will be an important plot element. Maybe we will get some backstory on Luxord's human self like Lauriam
Maybe. I think it was stated in an interview that Luxord is one of Nomura's favorite character. It's possibly that some personal bias may happen.
Maybe. I think it was stated in an interview that Luxord is one of Nomura's favorite character. It's possibly that some personal bias may happen.
That interview was from the KH2 days. He's given a few different answers since then, none of which have been consistent iirc.
That interview was from the KH2 days. He's given a few different answers since then, none of which have been consistent iirc.
Well yeah, but I do think it could lead to him wanting give him another shot at being...well interesting lol. I have always thought that could be another reason Luxord could show up again, but I doubt he would do it only because he used to really like him
So, have any of the VAs actually expressed displeasure at people asking about this? Because neither of the confirmations I've seen on this thread seemed to indicate annoyance. As far as I could tell, neither of the fans involved were impolite or aggressive either. Unless the actors have actually said "please stop asking us," it seems a bit strange for you guys to be freaking out on their behalf. Like they're delicate flowers who will collapse from a simple question.
Besides, fans aren't psychic, so how should we know who has an NDA unless they tell us? And if they're not in the game, then how would they have one?
So, have any of the VAs actually expressed displeasure at people asking about this? Because neither of the confirmations I've seen on this thread seemed to indicate annoyance. As far as I could tell, neither of the fans involved were impolite or aggressive either. Unless the actors have actually said "please stop asking us," it seems a bit strange for you guys to be freaking out on their behalf. Like they're delicate flowers who will collapse from a simple question.
Besides, fans aren't psychic, so how should we know who has an NDA unless they tell us? And if they're not in the game, then how would they have one?
One of the VA's (might have been Vincent Corazza?) said that the NDA they signed when they first took the role prevents them from saying if they are or aren't involved for all related projects. They don't need to have signed a new one for KH3, as it's covered in their first NDA.
And honestly, what you're implying is just plain rude. "They aren't confirming or denying their involvement or telling us stop bugging them so we have the right to keep doing it." Respect their privacy and leave them alone. If they're able to reveal info, they'll do it at their own pace.
Besides, fans aren't psychic, so how should we know who has an NDA unless they tell us? And if they're not in the game, then how would they have one?
Everyone who works on a video game is under an NDA. Literally everyone.
So y'all are saying Shanelle broke her agreement?
And honestly, what you're implying is just plain rude. "They aren't confirming or denying their involvement or telling us stop bugging them so we have the right to keep doing it." Respect their privacy and leave them alone. If they're able to reveal info, they'll do it at their own pace.
Sorry, but I think you set a pretty low bar for rude.
"Hey so and so, any chance you can tell us if you're working on x or y?"
"Yes/No, sorry"
"Ok, thanks"
Oh, the horror.
Sure, if people are swarming them nonstop, then I'd understand your point, but has that actually been the case? It seemed like Shanelle got a single message.
So y'all are saying Shanelle broke her agreement?
Sorry, but I think you set a pretty low bar for rude.
"Hey so and so, any chance you can tell us if you're working on x or y?"
"Yes/No, sorry"
"Ok, thanks"
Oh, the horror.
Sure, if people are swarming them nonstop, then I'd understand your point, but has that actually been the case? It seemed like Shanelle got a single message.
She likely didn’t think somebody would share a private message out to the world.
People have been swarming them, though. And the instance that is being referred to is how people are seeking out phone numbers and emails of people who have no social media to ask them about the game. Just because they are voice actors doesn’t give people the right to invade their privacy.
She likely didn’t think somebody would share a private message out to the world.
People have been swarming them, though. And the instance that is being referred to is how people are seeking out phone numbers and emails of people who have no social media to ask them about the game. Just because they are voice actors doesn’t give people the right to invade their privacy.
Well I'm certainly not advocating any of that. I wasn't familiar with either of those incidents, and that kind of stuff is not ok. The most I'm referring to are basic tweets and the like.
It's always such a pity. I gotta imagine most VAs are truly happy to entertain fans by giving them confirmation on their roles, sadly the hype on the Internet often breaks into these unchecked mass emotional bursts that make the whole thing rather unpleasant, because no one cared teaching proper etiquette on the Internet.
We merely point our fingers every time it happens, and then back to square one.
Think how many more opportunities we could have if out of control fans weren't such a threat.
Larxene is a cutiepatootie
Darkos; I agree with you. It's kinda sad. People are really hungry for news, so they've been pestering the VAs. Which is BAD.
(Worst I've been doing is having a countdown on my desktop to E3, but I know I have to be patient.)
So yeah, if anyone here is thinking of doing that..Don't do that. Let them be.
I've been saying Luxord's time element will be significant for a while now.
Idc if it doesn't make sense to some of you, I DO hope Larxene is a member of the 13 just so the new Organization has some freaking diversity! So far all of the members are the same personality and they all have silver/grey hair. Besides Saix and Xigbar the Organization isnt as interesting this time around. What made them such a compelling group to take on in the past was how all the members were unique and had their own plans, quirk, powers, appearance, whatever. The fact that Xehanort himself pretty much takes up half the list has always been a bit bland for me. Larxene would be a refreshing interaction in the game. Plus we need some blondes in this new Organization ^_^
Idc if it doesn't make sense to some of you, I DO hope Larxene is a member of the 13 just so the new Organization has some freaking diversity! So far all of the members are the same personality and they all have silver/grey hair. Besides Saix and Xigbar the Organization isnt as interesting this time around. What made them such a compelling group to take on in the past was how all the members were unique and had their own plans, quirk, powers, appearance, whatever. The fact that Xehanort himself pretty much takes up half the list has always been a bit bland for me. Larxene would be a refreshing interaction in the game. Plus we need some blondes in this new Organization ^_^
Yeah... er, nope. Don't really care about the diversity of the villains. It's the heroes or sympathetic villains that provide better brand recognition. Most of the members of the original Organization XIII assumed that they were just on a mission to re-complete themselves through the maintenance of an artificial Kingdom Hearts.
Like, the purpose of 13 Xehanort is to have 13 Xehanorts. That's as duplicate as you can get. Not saying that there won't be any standout characters nor females, but I don't want Larxene's character arc butchered by shoe-horning her into the Seekers of Darkness.
It wouldn't butcher her little and non consequential character arc. It just gives more to her character. She and Marluxia were trying to betray Xemnas when THAT was the old goal of the Organization. Maybe once Marluxia and Larxene learn the true goal from Xehanort they decide they want to be apart of that.
It wouldn't butcher her little and non consequential character arc. It just gives more to her character. She and Marluxia were trying to betray Xemnas when THAT was the old goal of the Organization. Maybe once Marluxia and Larxene learn the true goal from Xehanort they decide they want to be apart of that.
You do know that Marluxia and Larxene don't utter a single word to each other in Chain of Memories. Their affiliation doesn't seem to be as strong as Zexion and Lexeaus nor Axel and Saix, so I fail to see why Larxene is immediately a Seeker of Darkness just because Marluxia is.
True. Then perhaps Larxene is one and Marluxia is not.
You do know that Marluxia and Larxene don't utter a single word to each other in Chain of Memories. Their affiliation doesn't seem to be as strong as Zexion and Lexeaus nor Axel and Saix, so I fail to see why Larxene is immediately a Seeker of Darkness just because Marluxia is.
Axel and Saix, the two guys who are one inch away from uttering death threats to one another? (actually past that in some regards)
Marluxia and Larxene might not be *friends*, but I given the series passion for backstabbing and manipulating I actually think they might have one of the most solid correlationships, based purely on a shared goal. Difference with Xehanort and Maleficent is, unless Union is going to apply some changes to Marluxia's character they are actually open with each other and see themselves as equals.
In CoM Marluxia basically interacts only to bark orders or manipulate, so it is possible to see the lack of words between the two as somewhat positivet: Larxene didn't need him to keep her in check for he trusted her.
Speaking of va I think Alyson stoner is voicing kairi instead of Hayden with va being done in February and last episode of Nashville being flim in April i think they asked Alyson do kairi voice again so don’t upset if that case again
Speaking of va I think Alyson stoner is voicing kairi instead of Hayden with va being done in February and last episode of Nashville being flim in April i think they asked Alyson do kairi voice again so don’t upset if that case again
Camilla Luddngton did Grey's and Tomb Raider at the same time... That's not an excuse... She might've just refused to voice her again lol
Camilla Luddngton did Grey's and Tomb Raider at the same time... That's not an excuse... She might've just refused to voice her again lol
https://twitter.com/Jimcummingsacme/status/991385322536685568
Didn't Cummings already hint that he did voice acting for 100 Acre woods a few years back?
Didn't Cummings already hint that he did voice acting for 100 Acre woods a few years back?
man it will be kind of a let down if the remaining darknesses are just the stragglers from the old org. and there arent really any surprises.
I hope the gme introduces some more oroginal characters in some fashion, at least.
Camilla Luddngton did Grey's and Tomb Raider at the same time... That's not an excuse... She might've just refused to voice her again lol
Has it been reported that she's not returning then?
Has it been reported that she's not returning then?
Not really... I'm talking IF she doesn't come back lol
true that may the what might happen fyi jim cummings on twitter said he just signed an nda agreement if that the case the next trailer might be spoiler
https://twitter.com/Jimcummingsacme/status/991385322536685568
...they all have to sign an NDA. It’s like a requirement of their job. That doesn’t indicate if there will be spoilers or not.
...they all have to sign an NDA. It’s like a requirement of their job. That doesn’t indicate if there will be spoilers or not.
true but it kind of weird to me that he just it now when should of signed it when the va finished the recording in febuary
You know its possible the NDA could have been for something else and not KH.
You know its possible the NDA could have been for something else and not KH.
true but it kind of weird to me that he just it now when should of signed it when the va finished the recording in febuary
Recording began in mid-February.
Jim Cummings is also an incredibly accomplished voice actor; that NDA could be for a bunch of other things before KH.
true the only thing thay come to mind then kh is a darkwing duck reboot
Darkwing Duck has been confirmed for the Ducktales reboot program for a while now. He might have finally been called in to work on that character for the television show (season final surprise?)
these arent really mutually exclusive. i'd love for her not to be one though, but with mar-mar coming back as a vessel, i just imagine so will his gal pal.
She doesn't necessarily have to be a vessel.
Laxene was a given, but it's still cool to have it confirm. I have a feeling feel we might see her in the big trailer. But I swear, if she's part of the new Organization I'm gonna punch something.
I kinda hope it's not Arlene, because it sounds too close to Larxene.
I'm fond of Narele myself.
That's an interesting idea.
She's definitely involved in her own world. Which means a lightning element based world. Any Disney movies ring a bell? Treasure Planet? Jungle Book?
I don't really see how The Jungle Book's lightning based.
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