Kingdom Hearts III: ReMIND DLC Coming This Winter
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- Published on June 8, 2019 @ 05:08 pm
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At the Kingdom Hearts: World of Tres orchestra event in Los Angeles, Nomura Tetsuya took to the stage to reveal further details about the Kingdom Hearts III: ReMIND DLC. After showing a trailer of the DLC, he revealed that fans can expect to purchase the DLC this winter for Xbox One and PlayStation 4 systems!
The trailer opens on Young Xehanort speaking to a hooded figure in the Keyblade Graveyard, shortly after he left his training as a Keyblade Master to tour the worlds. The trailer also featured Sora weilding the Oathkeeper Keyblade, as well as a new Keyblade Transformation that is attached to that Keyblade.
A big reveal was that Roxas, Riku, and Aqua are now playable during the Keyblade Graveyard boss fights. It is unknown if these are within the main storyline or a part of a data battle type scenario.
The trailer closed on a cryptic conversation between Xigbar and Luxord in Olympus, tying the two together with the storyline of Kingdom Hearts Union x.
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Interesting so you play as both Roxas, Riku and Aqua during the Keyblade Graveyard. Interesting that this is from Roxas' point of view during the events of KHIII.
Cant wait to see the transformation. Also I'm guessing each Guardian will have a playable segment during their fights
Well, I Hope that playable also means playable outside of battles. Not like the Riku and Aqua segments we already have in KH3.
But Young Xehanort Talking to the Master of Masters? Sounds like hype!
Really? The "new" Keyblade is Oathkeeper? Tf. There better be more.
Also Xigbar asks Luxord "who he is". I'm guessing Luxord's somebody and Luxu weren't aquianted in the Chi era
Couldn't be more hyped for this. I imagine we're gonna get a trailer at E3 during SE panel.
Really? The "new" Keyblade is Oathkeeper? Tf. There better be more.
Everyone was complaining about Oathkeeper and Oblivion not being in the game. I can understand why they decided to include Oathkeeper. Maybe we’ll also see Oblivion.
Wonder what transformation you can get out of Oathkeeper? I'm guessing swords like Ultima
So from what I saw the playable fights are just the same battles with a different character. The new Keyblade was without a doubt Oathkeeper, the teeth of the Keyblade were the same. The transformation color looks similar to Ultima's.
Also did the robed figure give YMX the coat? Also YMX was "necessary"?
I’m really hoping there will be something like the data rematches so we can re-battle Org XIII and choose between playing as Sora, Riku, Aqua, or Roxas.
Making Roxas a playable character for just that one battle would be such a waste.
Yes! I’ve wanted to play more characters especially Roxas for a long time plus Oathkeeper is one of my favorite Keyblades :)
Everyone was complaining about Oathkeeper and Oblivion not being in the game. I can understand why they decided to include Oathkeeper. Maybe we’ll also see Oblivion.
"Everyone" You mean 10 people on Twitter.
Where can I find the trailer?
Where can I find the trailer?
you're not supposed to see it
Bare minimum I wanted was playable Riku so I'm satisfied. I would have preferred to play as him in the dark realm but I still feel content nonetheless.
Also please let us play as the characters outside of battles and have them be able to take selfies with unique expressions.
you're not supposed to see it
I'm trying, but it's not that easy cause I'm not find it! :<
I‘m pretty excited sbout the gameplsy stuff, but it‘s weird how Sora is excluded from the battles. Even in the fight against Terranort with Aqua, he is not in the party. Why? So I wonder if there will be any changes in the story (apart from the new scenes with Luxord etc).
Playing as Roxas will be so cool
EDIT: Trailer is out:
I'm trying, but it's not that easy cause I'm not find it! :<
jp released it officially...
So the meeting with Xemnas implies Luxord doesn't remember his Chi past. Yet the scene with Xigbar tells me otherwise. Well he did say he would continue to play dumb.....
Very happy that Roxas is being added to the list of playable characters. Also, more Aqua and Riku? Yes please!
I’m really hoping there will be something like the data rematches so we can re-battle Org XIII and choose between playing as Sora, Riku, Aqua, or Roxas.
Making Roxas a playable character for just that one battle would be such a waste.
I agree. If we're just going to redo the Keyblade Graveyard fights it's kind of a waste. They need battlegates to play in, either the originals and/or brand new challenges.
I didn't realize how much I wanted Young Xehanort's backstory until just now. Maybe because he's not playing an overly long chess game anymore.
jp released it officially...
Ah, LoL
Thank you again
If the hooded figure is the MoM then it looks like the Master of Masters wasn't stuck in Shibuya after all, seems to me like he's there of his own volition.
just so everyone knows ?
Wait, but in the fight against Isa, Roxas is with Xion and Axel!
So this can't be the same fight in the main game from another point of view.
Luxord giving Sora the wild card seems to take on a whole new meaning. He's anticipating it's need as opposed to handing out farewell gifts.
Wait, but in the fight against Isa, Roxas is with Xion and Axel!
So this can't be the same fight in the main game from another point of view.
Yeah it looks like there will be some changes in the way the fights play out. Sora might have gone after Kairi while Roxas holds Isa off
Lol Kairi still ain't playable.
just so everyone knows ?
Yes and a coda means to repeat a part in the song, and when that repetition is finished, you immediately jump to a brand new part.
Lol Kairi still ain't playable.
Why should she be?
Yes and a coda means to repeat a part in the song, and when that repetition is finished, you immediately jump to a brand new part.
Why should she be?
With how requested she is to be playable, thought they would have gave the fans a bone.
Yeah it looks like there will be some changes in the way the fights play out. Sora might have gone after Kairi while Roxas holds Isa off
Could be.
But would be also kinda strange change part of the story.
Is it me, or Riku has a new combo!?
With how requested she is to be playable, thought they would have gave the fans a bone.
I really don't understand why people would like to play as her honestly.
I sure I don't want to.
I'm fearful of these alternate fights now, since I'll be pressing X to cure and instead pop an ether by mistake.
So does MoM corrupt Young Xehanort then? He had grey eyes and round ears when talking to him.
Yes and a coda means to repeat a part in the song, and when that repetition is finished, you immediately jump to a brand new part.
not explained exactly :p, but I get what you're saying/ that's pretty much it
simple video showing how coda is used for anyone curious
This just got interesting! I'm liking what I see.
Looks like we're getting the Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix treatement where we get additional cutscenes and features.
Shame that won't stop people from complaining about how Kingdom Hearts III is not Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix.
Is no one else gonna talk about how YMX eyes are STILL GREY WHEN HE MEETS WITH MOM?!?!
And when ARX are fighting Saix, that fight in 3 was between Sora, Roxas and Xion and Axel sat it out. What could that mean?!?
Whens this fight take place?!
After the main story?
In some pocket dimension like with the data battles?
Do they go looking for Isa after the main story and find him and get attacked?
Does Isa let Roxas and Xion have their turn at whacking him to their hearts content for all the BS he put them through?!?!?
PS, is anyone who went to the KHO in Chicago (like me) just a LITTLE miffed that they didnt show this there?!
People where even talking afterwards how they were hoping for something but maybe they werent doing it this tour.
*grumble grumble*
Eh, I'll get over it.
I'm fearful of these alternate fights now, since I'll be pressing X to cure and instead pop an ether by mistake.
The only way to solve this is if we would to be able to play as the characters before entering the battles to configure the controls before heading into them.
Basically all these scenarios need is pre-combat shortcut tuning and selfie modes and it's good as gold.
Is no one else gonna talk about how YMX eyes are STILL GREY WHEN HE MEETS WITH MOM?!?!
And when ARX are fighting Saix, that fight in 3 was between Sora, Roxas and Xion and Axel sat it out. What could that mean?!?
Whens this fight take place?!
After the main story?
In some pocket dimension like with the data battles?
Do they go looking for Isa after the main story and find him and get attacked?
Does Isa let Roxas and Xion have their turn at whacking him to their hearts content for all the BS he put them through?!?!?
Yeah, I'm wondering if these changed Org. fights are just optional boss shenanigans or actual changes to the main story (something that's never been done before in the series). Gonna be real interesting to experience if it's the latter.
Could be.
But would be also kinda strange change part of the story.
I don't think Sora's story will change. Maybe these fights we are seeing in the trailer could just be placeholders, not continuity changes? They probably don't want to spoil who Playable Characters will actually be fighting. Just a guess.
I'm really curious on exactly when these DLC adventures start. Right after Sora helps TAV/RAX he immediately runs off. I'm assuming this is when the DLC happens, these are the perfect openings for extra fights and plot. Orrr the Aqua and Riku playable scenarios could be at the very start of the Keyblade Graveyard chaos and they'd be fighting through the giga army of Heartless/Unversed/Nobodies just like SDG did. Roxas is kind of pigeonholed into a starting point but who knows when Aqua and Riku start their DLC adventures. Maybe even playable before the Keyblade Graveyard drama starts, like during that supposed day of rest? The possibilities...
Luxord giving Sora the wild card seems to take on a whole new meaning. He's anticipating it's need as opposed to handing out farewell gifts.
See, people should've started questioning why Luxord's wild card would even have the power to potentially save Sora. He also was the one tasked with finding the black box. Plus we know he was around from way back when. He's not a Foreteller, Xigbar would've recognized him. And he's not the Master of Masters because the two act completely different from each other (unless he's an Oscar-level actor), so who would he be? Doesn't seem like he'd be a regular wielder from back then too.
So who is playing who? Luxord or Xigbar. What's weird is that Luxord was after the black box, which Organization members (not sure if Luxord) knew Xigbar had information about it. So is Luxord just being coy by saying it doesn't matter to him?
Ohh, I am ready.
The only way to solve this is if we would to be able to play as the characters before entering the battles to configure the controls before heading into them.
Basically all these scenarios need is pre-combat shortcut tuning and selfie modes and it's good as gold.
Yeah, the more I think about it the more I think something like this is needed. It would be kind of annoying if the moment the DLC starts it goes right into KEYBLADE WAR FINAL SHOWDOWN GO GO GO GO GOOOOOOO!!! Even more than having a moment to reconfigure your controls I'd personally want some some kind of subchapter where the characters hangout in a calm world before you select Keyblade Graveyard. Important plot wouldn't even need to happen. You could just walk around, talk with people, take pictures, etc. Land of Departure would probably be best place for something like this. And those hallways we already walked through would be the perfect place to put new battlegates.
Also, Sora as a party member is cute
Isn’t anybody else worried about the DLC? I mean everything looks cool but I am worried about being disappointed again. I mean, I’d be really sad if we only could play as Aqua, Riku and Roxas during these bossfights. I want to explore the KG (or more) with them. I also still hope that they expand Riku’s RoD segments..
Could luxord be brain from union x and who is demax supposed to be
Don't discount who and who isn't playable here. Axel was Roxas's party member, not Sora during that fight scene.
I've heard a theory that Luxord might be the player character of KHUX. I feel it's unlikely but that is one theory I've heard.
I feel like I'm missing something right in front of my face but do we have confirmation that the guy talking to YX is MoM? My first impression was that was Xigboob.
Well, I think it's a good theory that Luxord is SOMEONE from the Chi era. Thing is, we don't know what his original name was.
All we can know is the name contained l-u-o-r-d, I can't figure out a good name with those letters atm. (I mean, Roxas= Sora, so pattern, pattern. Not sure if the other org members have their names scrambled the same way though.)
Well, I think it's a good theory that Luxord is SOMEONE from the Chi era. Thing is, we don't know what his original name was.
All we can know is the name contained l-u-o-r-d, I can't figure out a good name with those letters atm. (I mean, Roxas= Sora, so pattern, pattern. Not sure if the other org members have their names scrambled the same way though.)
Word on the street is it's Ulrod.
I have a feeling that’s not MoM talking to Xehanort in the trailer. It could be Luxu before he took Braig’s body.
Luxu is clearly the one responsible for putting Xehanort’s plan in motion, so it would make the most sense.
Well, I think it's a good theory that Luxord is SOMEONE from the Chi era. Thing is, we don't know what his original name was.
I wouldn’t really call it a theory at this point since Xemnas pretty much confirmed it when he was talking to the 4 of them about their “Ancient Keyblade secret”. We already know Marluxia and Larxene are from the X era, so Demyx and Luxord have to be as well.
Ok, so I've got mixed feelings. On one front, I'm happy that Roxas, Riku, and Aqua are playable in the Keyblade graveyard, and these were all of my picks for playable characters anyway. But on the other hand though, it's the exact same short battles as before, and specifically in regard to Roxas, it looks he'll still only have all of three moves like he did as a party member (which also means no air combo, no regular magic, no blocking, which means no counters, probably no situation commands, bassically nothing of genuine substance). Which kinda makes me wish they would've just had him be playable later on, so they could really flesh out his moveset. As it stands, it looks a slightly janky KH2 camera changing mod that they just tacked on to make up for his likely still miniscule role in this game. Which is incredibly cheap and disappointing if I'm correct. Kinda like how they made him invincible in order to justify calling him top secret and by extension, of high importance in interviews leading up to the game.
Happy that we'll finally get some incite into Young Xehanort and Luxu's plan. They genuinely seem to have established a bond during their time together. And it seems YX will have much further significance in the series future, which I'm totally fine with since he's my favorite Xehanort anyway. Additionally, Young Xehanort, although still physically larger than his older Scala self, now has silver eyes, so that's something worth looking into. The mystery surrounding Luxord is honestly of no interest to me. No Demyx, or Vexen, or Siax scenes so far, which is a bit surprising considering Nomura's earlier statements. Still think Xion is going to be clarified, but it'll probably be only limited to a few new scenes of more exposition.
I'm really curious on exactly when these DLC adventures start. Right after Sora helps TAV/RAX he immediately runs off. I'm assuming this is when the DLC happens, these are the perfect openings for extra fights and plot. Orrr the Aqua and Riku playable scenarios could be at the very start of the Keyblade Graveyard chaos and they'd be fighting through the giga army of Heartless/Unversed/Nobodies just like SDG did. Roxas is kind of pigeonholed into a starting point but who knows when Aqua and Riku start their DLC adventures. Maybe even playable before the Keyblade Graveyard drama starts, like during that supposed day of rest? The possibilities...
Can't be after Sora runs off from the fights because Terranort, Vanitas, and Siax are already defeated. It also can't really be before, because Roxas only appears mid way through the battle anyway, and by then Axel has to sit the fight out. During the time after those two segments, the only remaining norts are the ones Sora is already fighting, so there's nothing exactly left for them to do. I'd say that unless the scenes themselves were tweaked, it's probably some kind of data battle. As far as I can tell, nothing really suggest they'll be playable outside of the segments they were already party members in, so I'm not exactly very curious on the "when" of these events just yet. If KH3 was anything to go by, it likely doesn't even matter. The fact that Lea and Xion fight with Roxas only means they reused the Lea party member asset, the Xion party member asset, and seemingly only allow you to control the already limited three moves the Roxas party member had, just followed by a camera (possibly something more added, but the trailer gives zero indication that that's the case, so I don't really have reason to believe otherwise), all while fighting the exact same boss, which, assuming the entire sequence wasn't altered, is going to end the exact same way. Same with Riku and Aqua. In short, there doesn't seem to be much "new" here in regards to playable characters, so I'm keeping my expectations firmly grounded for the time being.
Didn’t exactly expect Oathkeeper. Well, at least everyone else got their diaper cream.
Interesting to see Luxord and Xigbar confronting each other in Olympus before the former leaves and tosses him the card before Xigbar asks him "Who are you?". I'm quite surprised to see that Xigbar wasn't the only one looking for the Black Box in Olympus as Luxord also came here to this world looking for the box as well and judging by the scenes I think this is either set before Maleficent and Pete were arriving in the Garden to dig up the box or after they dug up the box and left the world.
I feel like I'm missing something right in front of my face but do we have confirmation that the guy talking to YX is MoM? My first impression was that was Xigboob.
We don’t think it was the MoM. It was just what everybody went with when the trailer came out because of the exaggerated expressions but I think it would make more sense to be Luxu.
To me, I think those are data battles and maybe you get to pick your party members? I don't think they will directly alter the story unless they had in their mind after the game was done that people will hate how the fights went and decide to right away to create a DLC to fix the story fights ([X] Doubt)
Interesting that in the Aqua and Roxas segments, Sora isn't there. With Aqua it's just her and Ven, and with Roxas, he has Xion and Lea. So are they actually changing bits of the story or are there new battle gates where you as other characters or somethin'?
This trailer solved one my problems with the game - Sora being the only playable character during the Keyblade War.
The fact that DLC will only come out in Winter makes it seem Nomura is serious in keeping his promise on only releasing one big DLC pack with everything, which means what we don't get now, we won't get ever. That's a shame. If there was KH game that would benefit from a DLC approach à lá FF15 with different scenarios for different characters would be this one - Episode Riku, Episode Kairi, Episode Xehanort... so much potential to milk and improve this game.
Anyway, I'm curious to see the rest. Nothing in this trailer seems to be the additional scenario "ReMIND" that was talked about during Tokyo concert, which I assume it will be something playable, and the secret episode/boss weren't also revealed.
I'm still hoping we get Radiant Garden playable scenario with Riku/Mickey during their quest for Aqua. Not only it would help the pacing, but it would also give us another playable World.
Well, I think it's a good theory that Luxord is SOMEONE from the Chi era. Thing is, we don't know what his original name was.
All we can know is the name contained l-u-o-r-d, I can't figure out a good name with those letters atm. (I mean, Roxas= Sora, so pattern, pattern. Not sure if the other org members have their names scrambled the same way though.)
Lord U. The "U" is actually the Greek "u" (upsilon) because Greek letters.
So here is a thought, maybe Luxord isn't ancient wielder who lost his memories but is actually "Darkness". In Chi we were introduced to a cloaked figure called Darkness who is said to bring the world to ruin, Luxu didn't seem to have knowledge of this person as being part of the MoM's plans and was confused about their presence. The being "Darkness" was knowledgeable on time and is the one who will help Maleficent return to her own time (and by proxy be involved in sending people like Ven and Marly to). If Darkness has power or knowledge related to manipulation of time then maybe that explains Luxord's time powers. In essence maybe Luxu legit doesn't know who Luxord is because he is "Darkness" the character in Chi that Luxu didn't recognize.
I'm still hoping we get Radiant Garden playable scenario with Riku/Mickey during their quest for Aqua. Not only it would help the pacing, but
Problem is, it'd have to strictly be for world building/story pacing purposes because we already know that they gain absolutely nothing to help in their quest for Aqua by going there. Knowing the developers, they'll probably just stick to what they view as the more necessary story additions (i.e. clarification on confusing/poorly explained plot developments, and sequel fodder) instead of fleshing out things that are ultimately fruitless. Not trying to bash hopes here, but I just can't realistically see this happening unfortunately.
I was going into this all like "I'm super picky, they probably won't add what I want anyway" and then I saw playable Roxas and I was completely and totally sold.
Luxord is Brain who is Darkness. Calling it.
Kingdom Hearts III: ReUSED Assets DLC... don't know if I'll be getting.
Kingdom Hearts III: ReUSED Assets DLC... don't know if I'll be getting.
Me either, paying potentially £15 for playable roxas and an aqua and Riku segment that should have always been in there doesn't scream day one get to me. Also the cutscenes just seem to be more future bait not a fan.
What it should be is an online arena.
I need to see if the dlc got more to offer.. so far it's mah .
What it should be is an online arena.
This honestly would've been a pretty solid option to go with actually. There's infinite opportunity to actually have and use other playable characters. And it'd probably be more enjoyable in that sense too, since I'd imagine properly fleshing out everybodies gameplay would be a main focus for such a DLC.
I just want to know how Xion was brought back. Sure, we can guess using her nature, but guessing doesn't equal concrete answer.
Word on the street is it's Ulrod.
Or these names: Dulor, Durol, Rudol, Rodul, or Odurl
I‘m guessing the gameplay bits are from the Limit Cut dlc which is free iirc?
*[S]totally not irritating and pathetic Mickey Mouse impression*[/S]
Huh huh! Oh boy, can’t wait to play as Mickey Mouse against Larxene and Marluxia!
Problem is, it'd have to strictly be for world building/story pacing purposes because we already know that they gain absolutely nothing to help in their quest for Aqua by going there. Knowing the developers, they'll probably just stick to what they view as the more necessary story additions (i.e. clarification on confusing/poorly explained plot developments, and sequel fodder) instead of fleshing out things that are ultimately fruitless. Not trying to bash hopes here, but I just can't realistically see this happening unfortunately.
Nah, it's okay. I'm just being hopeful, since it's such a important world for the main plot and they already have some assets done.
Reasons why I want Radiant Garden playable during that part:
- Better story pacing.
- Another world playable.
- More Riku playable time and we could also see how he got his new keyblade.
- Saix is one of the few Org XIII members without a world for himself and this one would be perfect to him. It's weird how him and Lea never visited their home in KH3.
- More Subject X teasing, so that plot point doesn't come from nowhere when Saix meets Axel. A idea would be Saix while he's there, having a flashback of his younger self and Lea talking about infiltrating the castle in order to save her.
*[S]totally not irritating and pathetic Mickey Mouse impression*[/S]
Huh huh! Oh boy, can’t wait to play as Mickey Mouse against Larxene and Marluxia!
I've always wondered why the text is crossed out in some posts. Did you type it like that intentionally or did a moderator edit your post for some kind of violation?
Sorry not sold. Interesting lore, but my faith in. KH3's practically burned out. I don't see anything worth buying. Never cared for y'know the 3 characters we've ALREADY PLAYED IN THE SERIES being playable....again.
Uhm, friendly reminder this is a teaser (of an unfinished product, by the way).
I've always wondered why the text is crossed out in some posts. Did you type it like that intentionally or did a moderator edit your post for some kind of violation?
It was meant to be a joke. Admittedly, I’ve got a pretty mediocre impression of Mickey.
Could be.
But would be also kinda strange change part of the story.
Is it me, or Riku has a new combo!?
I really don't understand why people would like to play as her honestly.
I sure I don't want to.
Oh well gee, if you don't want to, I can't see why anyone else would. /s
God forbid the series doesn't treat her like shit but I suppose that ship is still long out at sea.
I wish I could muster up excitement for this but just thinking about KH3 and its rather full refrigerator still ticks me off. It has a lot to do to get out of the doghouse.
The theory I saw on Reddit is that the Organization Battles are from when Sora retcons the ending to bring Kairi back. This is why we get things like Roxas, Axel, and Xion fighting Saix rather than the three Soras.
I would have never thought that we would be able to play as at least three more characters in the graveyard. That is kinda nice. Also interested in the story part of the organisation.
The theory I saw on Reddit is that the Organization Battles are from when Sora retcons the ending to bring Kairi back. This is why we get things like Roxas, Axel, and Xion fighting Saix rather than the three Soras.
So they'd be changing several key events all for the sake of undoing Kairi's much hated fridging? Could be, but it doesn't seem like they care about her enough to do something like that.
So from what I saw the playable fights are just the same battles with a different character. The new Keyblade was without a doubt Oathkeeper, the teeth of the Keyblade were the same. The transformation color looks similar to Ultima's.
Also did the robed figure give YMX the coat? Also YMX was "necessary"?
I think that Young Xehanort meant that his "mission" to access Kingdom Hearts and reset the worlds was necessary. I wonder what made him think that visiting Disney worlds?
Also... this trailer looks amazing! I'm hoping that the absence of Sora in the party means that they may change the story a bit in the Keyblade Graveyard and have those guardians deal with their opponents on their own.
Oh and Demyx is probably not the Master of Masters now ;-;
I‘m guessing the gameplay bits are from the Limit Cut dlc which is free iirc?
What is the Limit Cut DLC? You mean the Critical mode DLC?
So they'd be changing several key events all for the sake of undoing Kairi's much hated fridging? Could be, but it doesn't seem like they care about her enough to do something like that.
See, I think Sora wouldn’t change too much by changing Kairi’s death. By going back in time to save her, all he has to do is just stop Xemnas from taking her away. From there events would mostly unfold the same way mostly except Kairi and Sora would have a moment where they reinforce their promise with Oathkeeper, and then Sora would go against Xehanort.
Xehanort used Kairi as “motivation” before but now that Sora knows how things will go, I imagine he’s willingly clash against Xehanort.
It feels like a cheap rewrite of an otherwise rather emotionally impactful final segment (everything from the start of Scala to Xehanort and Eraqus dying was actually really solid and I wouldn’t want to see them change a thing about it), but I think they can change Kairi’s fate without changing the whole ending and its own climax.
Perhaps they could use that to expand on Xehanort’s past with Scala, too, if they are inclined to do so to add a bit more story depth to the Scala segment.
What is the Limit Cut DLC? You mean the Critical mode DLC?
There are two DLCs in Re:MIND
Limit Cut and Secret Episode.
Limit Cut is what we saw: an expansion on the existing story.
Secret Episode will introduce new story stuff.
See, I think Sora wouldn’t change too much by changing Kairi’s death. By going back in time to save her, all he has to do is just stop Xemnas from taking her away. From there events would mostly unfold the same way mostly except Kairi and Sora would have a moment where they reinforce their promise with Oathkeeper, and then Sora would go against Xehanort.
Xehanort used Kairi as “motivation” before but now that Sora knows how things will go, I imagine he’s willingly clash against Xehanort.
It feels like a cheap rewrite of an otherwise rather emotionally impactful final segment (everything from the start of Scala to Xehanort and Eraqus dying was actually really solid and I wouldn’t want to see them change a thing about it), but I think they can change Kairi’s fate without changing the whole ending and its own climax.
Perhaps they could use that to expand on Xehanort’s past with Scala, too, if they are inclined to do so to add a bit more story depth to the Scala segment.
There are two DLCs in Re:MIND
Limit Cut and Secret Episode.
Limit Cut is what we saw: an expansion on the existing story.
Secret Episode will introduce new story stuff.
Oh I didn't know it was going to be packaged that way. I really hope this Limit Cut stuff helps the base KH3 game, like the Final Mix helped KH2.
If they are changing Kairi's fate what will that mean for the ending and secret ending? Cause her death is the set up for Sora dying and ending up in Shibuya
Sorry not sold. Interesting lore, but my faith in. KH3's practically burned out. I don't see anything worth buying. Never cared for y'know the 3 characters we've ALREADY PLAYED IN THE SERIES being playable....again.
Big agree here
like where is my freaking playable kairi ? we played roxas in kh2
kairi is getting nothing
wait they are going change everything that going be hard to get
Oh, yeah, people asking each other who they actually are, thus implying that no one is ever allowed to be only one person even when they aren't even really a person because they hardly show any character in the games. That's exactly what I hoped for. More of this kind of "plot twists" that Nomura adores so much.
But a yay for the playable characters.
wait they are going change everything that going be hard to get
Huh? They aren’t changing anything. They are just adding content.
If you mean charge, yeah that’s how they pay for the development of the DLC. The Keyblade(s) are going to be free, though.
There's just one thing I don't understand: is Oathkeeper supposed to be the free keyblade? This is a teaser for the paid DLC, while the new keyblade is free and Nomura did say the plan is to release the free DLCs once they're ready, so this seems confusing to me.
Seeing people online saying that this is just cut content that you have to pay for, or that "it should have been in the game in the first place." The forced disappointment narrative continues even now.
I had no overwhelming desire to play as Aqua, Riku, or even Roxas when I played through KH3. Those fights won't be much different with different playable characters. Playing as Roxas is a nice surprise, but being able to control Riku and Aqua is a simple addition that might be enjoyable to try once or twice before returning to Sora's more robust moveset.
Anyway, it looks nice from what little we've seen. Can't wait for Luxord to be revealed as Dr. Lou
There's just one thing I don't understand: is Oathkeeper supposed to be the free keyblade? This is a teaser for the paid DLC, while the new keyblade is free and Nomura did say the plan is to release the free DLCs once they're ready, so this seems confusing to me.
All of the DLC coming is under the Re:MIND name, so even the free Keyblade(s?) would be included with its marketing.
If they are changing Kairi's fate what will that mean for the ending and secret ending? Cause her death is the set up for Sora dying and ending up in Shibuya
If they are changing Kairi's fate what will that mean for the ending and secret ending? Cause her death is the set up for Sora dying and ending up in Shibuya
Being rescued could just mean her fate is delayed, and she dies later in some other way.
To add to this, Sora is still abusing the Power of Waking so even if he saves her, he’s still killing himself even faster. Him disappearing was going to happen, but he sped up the timeline of that happening by going to save Kairi. Thus the ending we get.
It doesn’t change anything.
They need to allow free roam of Scala.
They need to allow free roam of Scala.
YES please!
Cant wait to see the transformation. Also I'm guessing each Guardian will have a playable segment during their fights
As cool as getting to play as each of the Guardians would be, I, until we see anyone else, wont let my hopes get up too much.
I feel like I'm missing something right in front of my face but do we have confirmation that the guy talking to YX is MoM? My first impression was that was Xigboob.
Agreed, I didn't even consider the possibility that it could be MoM until I got on here. Xigbar guiding Xehanort down this path makes sense considering his role was to get things rolling and watch as the next keyblade war played out. I find if funny how they decided to explain where the Org coats came from in the current time period.
The theory I saw on Reddit is that the Organization Battles are from when Sora retcons the ending to bring Kairi back. This is why we get things like Roxas, Axel, and Xion fighting Saix rather than the three Soras.
Oh and here I though I was the only one to have that crazy thought. Especially after seeing what Coda meant I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Sora rewinding the final event one more time to safe Kairi, confident he and his friends will be able to pull through again.
For a teaser this wasn't too bad, though I seriously hope to see hints of more, just hope this trailer being initially leaked wont have too much of a serious consequence.
Oh well gee, if you don't want to, I can't see why anyone else would. /s
God forbid the series doesn't treat her like shit but I suppose that ship is still long out at sea.
I think the majority of the community doesn't like her.
Has the price been speculated/confirm anywhere?
I think the majority of the community doesn't like her.
Actually most seem to feel mixed on her. A ton of people were let down with her treatment in KH3. If people didn't like her, I doubt most peoples complaint would have been her treatment.
Also I think especially among more casual fans she is well liked. There are also a lot of fans like myself that see a lot of unused potential in her character.
There are two DLCs in Re:MIND
Limit Cut and Secret Episode.
Limit Cut is what we saw: an expansion on the existing story.
Secret Episode will introduce new story stuff.
Wait, isn't three?! Additional scenario Re:MIND + Limit Cut + Secret Episode
I've got to say, I am impressed by what I see! This DLC looks awesome to say the least! It looks like it will really add to an already great game. I'm really excited now!
Wait, isn't three?! Additional scenario Re:MIND + Limit Cut + Secret Episode
No, Re:MIND is the name of the DLC and it is two parts: Limit Cut and Secret Episode.
No, Re:MIND is the name of the DLC and it is two parts: Limit Cut and Secret Episode.
It's the title name, but the way the DLC content was described seems to be also the name for a new scenario.
The tentative title is "KINGDOM HEARTS III ReMIND". Paid DLC includes: [LIST] [*]Additional scenario "ReMIND" [*]Limit Cut Episode & bosses (comparable to previous Final Mixes where new scenes and battles were added in existing locations) [*]Secret Episode & boss [/LIST] |
Some japanese sources: @aibo_ac7
Famitsu
I'm not seeing why they would repeat the same thing twice.
"Recode a mind?"
*panics over possibly nothing*
PLAYING AS MORE OF THE GUARDIANS OF LIGHT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED NOW JUST MAKE KAIRI, VEN, LEA, AND LINGERING WILL PLAYABLE YES
We've all been bamboozled yet again
Sooooooooooooooooooo....
Lea is shown with his Keyblade during the second part of the Saix fight.
Sooooooooooooooooooo....
Lea is shown with his Keyblade during the second part of the Saix fight.
Can keyblades really be destroyed at this point? Somehow Data-Sora magically spawned one up his ass after Maleficent destroyed it. Even Riku's Way of the Dawn was still usable if R-Repliku? Data Riku? N-no, I remember. the Ansem-Riku was able to use it.
Sooooooooooooooooooo....
Lea is shown with his Keyblade during the second part of the Saix fight.
At the very least this time they could provide an explanation on how it was restored
Can keyblades really be destroyed at this point? Somehow Data-Sora magically spawned one up his ass after Maleficent destroyed it. Even Riku's Way of the Dawn was still usable if R-Repliku? Data Riku? N-no, I remember. the Ansem-Riku was able to use it.
Well, the one Maleficent destroyed is confirmed to have just been data, and that the reason it broke was because it's a fake. Been a while since I checked Re:Coded, but I believe it was implied the second Keyblades Data-Sora gained is a real one because the power of friendship. So that one isn't a case of a Keyblades breaking but then being magically repaired.
In KH3, Nomura just changed his mind how it works because he couldn't think of a good reason for Riku and Mickey getting new Keyblades.
Then the whole thing with Lea losing his Keyblades for good only for Nomura to change his mind and have Lea magically gain it back for no reason, as if the big scene about Lea losing it never happened.
The back and forth with whether Keyblades breaking is a big deal or not is such a headache.
At the very least this time they could provide an explanation on how it was restored
Lea: "Heh. You really think I'll just let you two have in at all the fun? Just give me a sec."
*farts out new Keyblade*
Lea: "All right, guys! Let's go!"
I'll have to watch it again, but aren't these fights taking place before Sora shows up to save the day? After all, I doubt everyone was just standing around waiting for him. It makes perfect sense for it to be an expansion of the fights rather than new ones. As a result, there's probably no possible way to 'win' as Aqua, Riku, or Roxas. You probably just have to not die.
This would explain why Lea has his keyblade.
I'll have to watch it again, but aren't these fights taking place before Sora shows up to save the day? After all, I doubt everyone was just standing around waiting for him. It makes perfect sense for it to be an expansion of the fights rather than new ones. As a result, there's probably no possible way to 'win' as Aqua, Riku, or Roxas. You probably just have to not die.
This would explain why Lea has his keyblade.
I feel dumb for not considering this.
I'll have to watch it again, but aren't these fights taking place before Sora shows up to save the day? After all, I doubt everyone was just standing around waiting for him. It makes perfect sense for it to be an expansion of the fights rather than new ones. As a result, there's probably no possible way to 'win' as Aqua, Riku, or Roxas. You probably just have to not die.
This would explain why Lea has his keyblade.
Roxas wasn't there and Xion was a Darkness before Sora showed up.
Lea did have his Keyblade when they all gathered at the end of the Keyblade Graveyard though.
Sooooooooooooooooooo....
Lea is shown with his Keyblade during the second part of the Saix fight.
All the more reason to believe the theory that Sora used the Power of Waking to retcon the ending and little details were changed all to save Kairi.
I'll have to watch it again, but aren't these fights taking place before Sora shows up to save the day? After all, I doubt everyone was just standing around waiting for him. It makes perfect sense for it to be an expansion of the fights rather than new ones. As a result, there's probably no possible way to 'win' as Aqua, Riku, or Roxas. You probably just have to not die.
This would explain why Lea has his keyblade.
Ugh. I still don't understand if this ends up being the case. If the character's can't even properly win these fights on their own, then what exactly is the point in playing as them if you know Sora's gonna have to finish the job anyway? It's like when Aqua fought Vanitas in the LoD. She "won", but you don't even get a single cutscene to enjoy it since she cringingly gets mowed down immediately afterward. It's not satisfying. It's fleeting, which just makes it worse.
All the more reason to believe the theory that Sora used the Power of Waking to retcon the ending and little details were changed all to save Kairi.
What I don't understand about this then is... well, exactly what you're talking about then. If the end of the game is Sora using the Power of Waking one last time, then how are these fights done then? Are you suggesting that before the credits roll, they want people to re-play the last one-two hours of the game?
What I don't understand about this then is... well, exactly what you're talking about then. If the end of the game is Sora using the Power of Waking one last time, then how are these fights done then? Are you suggesting that before the credits roll, they want people to re-play the last one-two hours of the game?
*Shrugs*
It's either direct retconning or Sora-induced retconning. I just don't see how we can play as Roxas while having Xion and Axel as party members.
For Riku and Aqua, I guess we could either go the route of Data Org battles, maybe illusions Namine conjures up from memories, Sora retconning the whole thing, or we get a menu where we choose to play as Aqua or Riku during those segments.
Keyblade graveyard is empty as hell in postgame. No heartless, no nobodies, the other guardians aren't hanging around...
These altered Keyblade graveyard battles are probably, for my money, just going to be battle portals in each empty battlefield of the graveyard, where each respective battle happened (BESIDES Mickey and Sora vs Luxord, Marluxia, and Larxene???? WTF Square, my OCD!!) and allow us to re-do them any time.
To add to this, Sora is still abusing the Power of Waking so even if he saves her, he’s still killing himself even faster. Him disappearing was going to happen, but he sped up the timeline of that happening by going to save Kairi. Thus the ending we get.
It doesn’t change anything.
Wow, somehow this went completely over my head while playing the KH3 ending. I've just been confused about why Sora disappeared the entire time (I knew it was about "saving Kairi" but I couldn't figure out the actual mechanism and reason behind it). This actual makes me appreciate the ending more if it's about Sora saving everyone than just Kairi herself.
Either my brain got burned out by the time that happened or the game didn't make it clear enough, but I'll just go with me being dim.
It's either direct retconning or Sora-induced retconning.
OMG, I can already see this becoming a regular term used in the fandom. Please don't let it get to that point Nomura... ?
Oh good, more gacha game BS crowding out the story this game was supposed to be telling. Easy miss then.
As someone else pointed out in this thread this is possibly or likey just a teaser for the "full" DLC. There could be more playable story scenarios and expanded arcs that will be developed by the time this releases in winter, so I wouldn't say it's just data battles just yet, but not getting hopeful for more is perfectly reasonable too.
We don’t think it was the MoM. It was just what everybody went with when the trailer came out because of the exaggerated expressions but I think it would make more sense to be Luxu.
You make a good point, and it very could well be Xigbar/Luxu. After all, Xigbar/Luxu and MoM do share similar personality traits. But to me, it's confusing why they wouldn't reveal the voices yet for that segment. I mean, they've clearly done the voice acting for Xigbar/Luxu when he was talking to Luxord. Perhaps it's a new segment that hasn't had its recordings done yet. Also, most likely to keep us guessing. Because almost everything new in KH is shrouded by mystery haha.
But after all, didn't Nomura state MoM wasn't going to appear in KH3? Perhaps more evidences it's Xigbar/Luxu.
Nomura, you sly fox.
(Before KH3) MoM is smug, laid back, and makes sarcastic remarks
It's LITERALLY XIGBAR
Eccentric poses and pOiNtInG
It's Demyx!
"The Game isn't over until it's over"
OMG Luxord says that in the Caribbean and ??? says it on the loading screen!!!!
the truth is somewhere in the middle. MoM's influence has spread throughout a few members of the Organization that knew him, but none of them ARE him.
PLAYING AS MORE OF THE GUARDIANS OF LIGHT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED NOW JUST MAKE KAIRI, VEN, LEA, AND LINGERING WILL PLAYABLE YES
I agree though I'd swap out Lingering Will for Mickey and maybe add Xion.
What I don't understand about this then is... well, exactly what you're talking about then. If the end of the game is Sora using the Power of Waking one last time, then how are these fights done then? Are you suggesting that before the credits roll, they want people to re-play the last one-two hours of the game?
Yeah that's the biggest thing going against the idea, that what we're seeing is Sora using the Power of Wakening to rewrite time again.
I can't see them actually tell us "okay now that you have beaten the game do it again, but this time Kairi doesn't die" like that'd be a rather underwhelming additional scenario.
Still it's hard to see where else in the main story a RAX fight could fit in. Unless they're inserting a fight between the Sora, Kairi and Axel's fight with Xemnas and Sora, Xion and Roxas' fight with Saix.
With the others its easy enough to imagine that they're the first half of the fight or that you can even switch between party members.
Keyblade graveyard is empty as hell in postgame. No heartless, no nobodies, the other guardians aren't hanging around...
These altered Keyblade graveyard battles are probably, for my money, just going to be battle portals in each empty battlefield of the graveyard, where each respective battle happened (BESIDES Mickey and Sora vs Luxord, Marluxia, and Larxene???? WTF Square, my OCD!!) and allow us to re-do them any time.
They need to include the other guardians in their zone available for speaking with and taking selfies.
All the more reason to believe the theory that Sora used the Power of Waking to retcon the ending and little details were changed all to save Kairi.
So far this theory seems the most plausible. My issue here is that after Kairi was killed, there was no heart released. So if Sora used the power of waking to save her, wouldn't that make her the same "heartless" Kairi except now alive? I'm still very curious as to what happened to her heart.
I am not saying its impossible but I have a hard time believing that they would change the graveyard scenes that much. Maybe those are just battle portals where we can fight all the battles again but this time with the person we want? (Or at least the one that is also playable) This way they wont need to change the story at all and people can still enjoy the battles.
You make a good point, and it very could well be Xigbar/Luxu. After all, Xigbar/Luxu and MoM do share similar personality traits. But to me, it's confusing why they wouldn't reveal the voices yet for that segment. I mean, they've clearly done the voice acting for Xigbar/Luxu when he was talking to Luxord. Perhaps it's a new segment that hasn't had its recordings done yet. Also, most likely to keep us guessing. Because almost everything new in KH is shrouded by mystery haha.
But after all, didn't Nomura state MoM wasn't going to appear in KH3? Perhaps more evidences it's Xigbar/Luxu.
Nomura, you sly fox.
The trailer is all early work. They probably won’t have the voice actors come and record anything until autumn.
MoM is also a massive unit of a person and the guy sitting down isn’t that much bigger than Xehanort lol so that kinda is a big hint
I think I like the idea of Sora rewriting things if it is implemented similar to the Final and Secret episodes of BBS. It wouldn’t change anything in the main game, but would be on a separate save file you can create once you beat the main game and meet any special requirements. The story itself would just be explaining what happened between Sora leaving to rescue Kairi and the two of them returning to Destiny Islands.
Plus, if Sora saves Kairi, maybe we can finally get the SRK team up that is long overdue.
The trailer is all early work. They probably won’t have the voice actors come and record anything until autumn.
MoM is also a massive unit of a person and the guy sitting down isn’t that much bigger than Xehanort lol so that kinda is a big hint
I definitely think it is Luxu based on the last Secret Report. I think he may have written that after this meeting as this conversation may be what convinced him that Xehanort was the one he’s been waiting for to spark the Keyblade War.
Plus, if Sora saves Kairi, maybe we can finally get the SRK team up that is long overdue.
All I really wanted in the Keyblade War was for SRK to team up against Dark Riku, Vanitas, and Xion. Cliche as it might be, I'm a sucker for mirror matches.
All I really wanted in the Keyblade War was for SRK to team up against Dark Riku, Vanitas, and Xion. Cliche as it might be, I'm a sucker for mirror matches.
I'd have been just happy to get SRK, but yeah having them face of against Dark Riku, Vanitas & Xion would, at least on a superficial level, have been pretty cool. Though I think thematically the parings we got did make the most sense.
To be honest, I'd rather ditch playable Roxas, Aqua, Riku (and whoever else) for something else instead. Imo they're a waste, the only place where they would be relevant to play is on the Keyblade Graveyard, even if you fought every boss with every other six Guardian of Light + Roxas & Xion, the total playtime would amount to at most an hour. This of course is assuming they would not add extra playable scenarios to the Keyblade Graveyard where the other eight characters would be present but, even with that in mind, they simply are not as present for majority of your playtime (unlike Donald and Goofy) and hence investing resources on them to be playable is not justified (something that playable Donald and Goofy are x10 more justified to me).
I'm happy to play as the different characters. Does anyone remember the mission mode from days? I do and that was a lot of fun.
EDIT: Apparently I never erased my draft from days ago when it was relevant. Oops
*shrugs* Who knows at the point.
Well, the one Maleficent destroyed is confirmed to have just been data, and that the reason it broke was because it's a fake. Been a while since I checked Re:Coded, but I believe it was implied the second Keyblades Data-Sora gained is a real one because the power of friendship. So that one isn't a case of a Keyblades breaking but then being magically repaired.
In KH3, Nomura just changed his mind how it works because he couldn't think of a good reason for Riku and Mickey getting new Keyblades.
Then the whole thing with Lea losing his Keyblades for good only for Nomura to change his mind and have Lea magically gain it back for no reason, as if the big scene about Lea losing it never happened.
The back and forth with whether Keyblades breaking is a big deal or not is such a headache.
Xion: "Rest, Axel. Roxas will fight in your place. And I'll fight for Kairi."
Lea: "Heh. You really think I'll just let you two have in at all the fun? Just give me a sec."
*farts out new Keyblade*
Lea: "All right, guys! Let's go!"
I'm of the belief that it didn't actually break, but rather disengages - likely due to fatigue. Ever notice how whenever someone's seemingly beaten or down for the count their weapon disappears?
Hoping for a longer trailer at Square's E3 conference. I'm keeping my expectations low, since Square's conference last year was atrocious.
It looks like it was just a replay of the trailer on YouTube :'(
It looks like it was just a replay of the trailer on YouTube :'(
It was to be expected honestly. The trailer did just come out after all. Or should I be calling this a "teaser" instead of a proper trailer? Anyway, it's pretty typical practice for them to release trailers early then re-show them at the actual conferences/conventions when it comes to KH3, so there was every chance they'd do it again I guess is what I'm trying to say.
EDIT: Apparently I never erased my draft from days ago when it was relevant. Oops
I'm of the belief that it didn't actually break, but rather disengages - likely due to fatigue. Ever notice how whenever someone's seemingly beaten or down for the count their weapon disappears?
To be honest, I'd rather ditch playable Roxas, Aqua, Riku (and whoever else) for something else instead. Imo they're a waste, the only place where they would be relevant to play is on the Keyblade Graveyard, even if you fought every boss with every other six Guardian of Light + Roxas & Xion, the total playtime would amount to at most an hour. This of course is assuming they would not add extra playable scenarios to the Keyblade Graveyard where the other eight characters would be present but, even with that in mind, they simply are not as present for majority of your playtime (unlike Donald and Goofy) and hence investing resources on them to be playable is not justified (something that playable Donald and Goofy are x10 more justified to me).
More to this point, these fights should have been in the base game (especially considering Riku and Aqua were already playable) so asking people to hand another fistful of cash over for them when Nomura decided to spend time and energy on missable additions like Classic Kingdom just so they could have another cheap tie-in with the mobile game so it could continue to ride the coat tails of an actually anticipated franchise installment is pretty irritating. It's obvious where the priorities were and are with KH3, and it wasn't on closing out the Xehanort saga properly or giving the existing cast of characters their due, and the DLC is all but guaranteed to exacerbate this problem. I personally can't wait for *additional scenario* Young Xehanort meets the Foretellers at the local furry convention.
KHUX spoilers I guess.
I'm just not a fan of where the story is going. I don't need all of these mysteries in KH3. Nor do I want any more of these "actually, I'm not X, I'm C!!!" moments. It was already a slap in the face when they revealed that even Luxord and Demyx are from the x-era, but now Luxord is not "Luxord", but whoever the hell he actually is. Just like with the Xigbar-is-Luxu reveal. I don't like these.
I woud have been happy if the only ones to come to the present had been Ventus, Lauriam, and Elrena. But nah, now it's:
[LIST=1]
[*]Aced
[*]Gula
[*]Invi
[*]Ira
[*]Luxu AKA Xigbar
[*]Ventus
[*]Lauriam
[*]Elrena
[*]Luxord
[*]Demyx
[*]MoM, according to the Secret Ending
[/LIST]
That's 11 characters.. I did NOT need all of these in the present ffs
The only ones we don't know as of yet are Ephemer, Skuld, Ava, Strelitzia, and Brain. But you can BET they'll come back as well. At least two of these are Girl X and Nameless Star.
I just happy that the trailer shows off there are more playable characters beside Riku and Aqua...
It was to be expected honestly. The trailer did just come out after all. Or should I be calling this a "teaser" instead of a proper trailer? Anyway, it's pretty typical practice for them to release trailers early then re-show them at the actual conferences/conventions when it comes to KH3, so there was every chance they'd do it again I guess is what I'm trying to say.
I think we may get a proper trailer of KH3: ReMind at the D23 Expo in August or the more likely place is in Tokyo Game Show in September which has been the primary event where they announce new KH announcements every year (except TGS 2017).
I just happy that the trailer shows off there are more playable characters beside Riku and Aqua...
The only additional "playable" character besides those two is Roxas. And he looks like the most limited of them all (the HUD doesn't even function with him, so what we got looks more like a stand in for his actual game play that they'll be working on... Hopefully).
I think we may get a proper trailer of KH3: ReMind at the D23 Expo in August or the more likely place is in Tokyo Game Show in September which has been the primary event where they announce new KH announcements every year (except TGS 2017).
I could see that.. Though honestly, I can't bring myself to care about this whole thing any longer at this point. If the premise set up by this teaser was anything to go by (which is the fundemental point of any advertisment, to set up expectations for the new downloadable content), nothing in this DLC really seems like anything I can get invested in. The Ux stuff is getting on my last nerve, and nothing I've seen so far really helps KH3 feel anymore satisfying as a finale/conclusion to the Xehanort Saga at all. Just a whole bunch of sequel fodder that only robs this entry's feeling of finality and closure even further than the base game already did.
KHUX spoilers I guess.
I'm just not a fan of where the story is going. I don't need all of these mysteries in KH3. Nor do I want any more of these "actually, I'm not X, I'm C!!!" moments. It was already a slap in the face when they revealed that even Luxord and Demyx are from the x-era, but now Luxord is not "Luxord", but whoever the hell he actually is. Just like with the Xigbar-is-Luxu reveal. I don't like these.
I woud have been happy if the only ones to come to the present had been Ventus, Lauriam, and Elrena. But nah, now it's:
[LIST=1]
[*]Aced
[*]Gula
[*]Invi
[*]Ira
[*]Luxu AKA Xigbar
[*]Ventus
[*]Lauriam
[*]Elrena
[*]Luxord
[*]Demyx
[*]MoM, according to the Secret Ending
[/LIST]
That's 11 characters.. I did NOT need all of these in the present ffs
The only ones we don't know as of yet are Ephemer, Skuld, Ava, Strelitzia, and Brain. But you can BET they'll come back as well. At least two of these are Girl X and Nameless Star.
EEK! I always had a bad feeling about KHUX. I really don't like how much of it is coming into the main KH story. It should have stayed as a silly, meaningless mobile game with references to the main story.
I'm hoping that Aced, Gula, Invi, and Ira get killed off promptly in a spin-off game between KH3 and KH4 (hopefully by Lauriam/Elrena/Durol/Emyd). Also, I hope very few of those other people you named are carried forward. I would prefer if just Ava and Strelitzia stayed, and I guess Ephemer would be included since he got his moment in KH3.
Since this will only come out in Winter, I'll keep my expectations low and only expect the next trailer at TGS.
As for the content, I expect to be worth the wait. Wait almost a year after the game came out for a DLC pack seems ridiculous to me.
Since this will only come out in Winter, I'll keep my expectations low and only expect the next trailer at TGS.
As for the content, I expect to be worth the wait. Wait almost a year after the game came out for a DLC pack seems ridiculous to me.
I'm not up-to-date with what typically goes on with DLC for games nowadays. How much can be achieved in a year for a DLC pack?
Re:mind me needs to be a permanent running gag in the franchise
Honestly, I was hoping for more playable characters then just Aqua, Riku, and Roxas. I wanted to play as Kairi and Ventus and Lea and Xion and, hell, even Terra.
But maybe I'm expecting too much. I don't know. Other then that, everything else looks fine. I just hope the price isn't too high.
"The only way to fix this is by destroying the world."
Better story than the actual game.
Among all the new cutscenes added I hope they include one of the Guardian abandoning Ansem before the fight at the Keyblade Graveyard. I want to see his reaction when his servant gains a mind of his own and actively rejects him
Can someone more knowledgeable of modern day DLC please tell me how much can possibly be prepared for a year long development time? Like would it be too much to expect as much content as 0.2 to be in the DLC (like 3-5 hours worth of content)?
Can someone more knowledgeable of modern day DLC please tell me how much can possibly be prepared for a year long development time? Like would it be too much to expect as much content as 0.2 to be in the DLC (like 3-5 hours worth of content)?
It just depends on what they are focusing on and where the DLC takes place. Depending on the locations and stuff, it’ll determine how many assets have to be made from scratch vs how many assets get reused.
I’d say 3-5 hours is a fair amount.
KHUX spoilers I guess.
I'm just not a fan of where the story is going. I don't need all of these mysteries in KH3. Nor do I want any more of these "actually, I'm not X, I'm C!!!" moments. It was already a slap in the face when they revealed that even Luxord and Demyx are from the x-era, but now Luxord is not "Luxord", but whoever the hell he actually is. Just like with the Xigbar-is-Luxu reveal. I don't like these.
I woud have been happy if the only ones to come to the present had been Ventus, Lauriam, and Elrena. But nah, now it's:
[LIST=1]
[*]Aced
[*]Gula
[*]Invi
[*]Ira
[*]Luxu AKA Xigbar
[*]Ventus
[*]Lauriam
[*]Elrena
[*]Luxord
[*]Demyx
[*]MoM, according to the Secret Ending
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That's 11 characters.. I did NOT need all of these in the present ffs
The only ones we don't know as of yet are Ephemer, Skuld, Ava, Strelitzia, and Brain. But you can BET they'll come back as well. At least two of these are Girl X and Nameless Star.
Did we ever really know who Luxord was? He was a blank slate of a character that they are only just now giving a backstory. Likewise for Demyx. Pre-KH3 everyone was demanding to know who these characters were before they became Nobodies, and now that they're finally starting to fill in the blanks, everyone is turning their noses at it. Is it because of the UX connection? Because it'd been so long that we accepted the idea that they were just random no names with weird quirks?
Did we ever really know who Luxord was? He was a blank slate of a character that they are only just now giving a backstory. Likewise for Demyx. Pre-KH3 everyone was demanding to know who these characters were before they became Nobodies, and now that they're finally starting to fill in the blanks, everyone is turning their noses at it. Is it because of the UX connection? Because it'd been so long that we accepted the idea that they were just random no names with weird quirks?
Might be the UX connection. Personally I thought it would have been more interesting if Luxord was a former pirate from The Caribbean instead of another Keyblade wielder from the past.
Did we ever really know who Luxord was? He was a blank slate of a character that they are only just now giving a backstory. Likewise for Demyx. Pre-KH3 everyone was demanding to know who these characters were before they became Nobodies, and now that they're finally starting to fill in the blanks, everyone is turning their noses at it. Is it because of the UX connection? Because it'd been so long that we accepted the idea that they were just random no names with weird quirks?
I think it's a mix of the UX connection and the fact that all these original characters seem to be so interconnected and come from the same place in a multiverse so huge.
They could have come from some random Original world or even a Disney World, but nope, they're either from Radiant Garden and the age of Fairy Tale.
I don't mind too much, but it does seem like the less interesting route.
I mean it kind of made sense. When Xemnas laid out why certain people were part of the new Organization, I was like... OK, I buy it. The Xehanorts (and Luxu), Axel/Saix (because they were looking for Girl X), Elrena/Lauriam/Durol/Emyd were ancient keyblade wielders, and Replica Riku 2.0 and Xion 2.0.
I think what KH needs to work on more is world building. It would give depth to the story if Elrena/Lauriam/Durol/Emyd were from Disney worlds and/or original KH worlds that we visited. The easy connection and build towards KHIV would be to slap anyone with no background into KHUX. The Luxu reveal was cool, even to me as someone who knew very little about KHUX. It would be great if Emyd was an ancient keyblade wielder from Atlantica who Triton knows about from their myths or something. I'm glad that Xemnas kept it vague on their "ancient keyblade connection" status, so at least that means they can possibly connect them to Disney worlds instead of straight to KHUX. I can easily see Durol as an ancient keyblade wielder from Agrabah who encountered the Genie while "playing a game" to break into the Cave of Wonders.
KHUX spoilers I guess.
I'm just not a fan of where the story is going. I don't need all of these mysteries in KH3. Nor do I want any more of these "actually, I'm not X, I'm C!!!" moments. It was already a slap in the face when they revealed that even Luxord and Demyx are from the x-era, but now Luxord is not "Luxord", but whoever the hell he actually is. Just like with the Xigbar-is-Luxu reveal. I don't like these.
I woud have been happy if the only ones to come to the present had been Ventus, Lauriam, and Elrena. But nah, now it's:
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[*]Gula
[*]Invi
[*]Ira
[*]Luxu AKA Xigbar
[*]Ventus
[*]Lauriam
[*]Elrena
[*]Luxord
[*]Demyx
[*]MoM, according to the Secret Ending
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That's 11 characters.. I did NOT need all of these in the present ffs
The only ones we don't know as of yet are Ephemer, Skuld, Ava, Strelitzia, and Brain. But you can BET they'll come back as well. At least two of these are Girl X and Nameless Star.
Looking back at the series, I personally feel that there were so many characters introduced to begin with that were NOT needed in general. Nomura even said himself that he had a hard time juggling the CURRENT cast we have now, did he not? Now with the integration of UX JUST BECAUSE it's nothing more than a cluster of characters and plot points. NONE of them haven't even been resolved. If they didn't want to reveal what was in the box, don't show it. We didn't need this excess of Luxu being a body snatcher, Ventus, Demyx, Larxene, Luxord, and Marluxia SOMEHOW being those of the distant pass. Then there's this needless trio between Isa, Lea, and this mysterious girl. It's...it makes me frustrated that the story of a boy journeying Disney worlds with Donald Duck and Goofy ESCALATED INTO THIS MONSTROSITY OF A CLUSTERFUK. No. Keep in mind that the Disney Worlds don't even have meaning to them anymore. They're just...there now. Just like Maleficent and Pete. At first I honestly loved this unexpected duo between the two...BUT THEY'RE JUST THERE. FOUR CAMEOS. THEY SHOWED UP FOUR TIMES IN THE GAME. WHICH AMOUNTED TO N O T H I N G
Looking back at the series, I personally feel that there were so many characters introduced to begin with that were NOT needed in general. Nomura even said himself that he had a hard time juggling the CURRENT cast we have now, did he not? Now with the integration of UX JUST BECAUSE it's nothing more than a cluster of characters and plot points. NONE of them haven't even been resolved. If they didn't want to reveal what was in the box, don't show it. We didn't need this excess of Luxu being a body snatcher, Ventus, Demyx, Larxene, Luxord, and Marluxia SOMEHOW being those of the distant pass. Then there's this needless trio between Isa, Lea, and this mysterious girl. It's...it makes me frustrated that the story of a boy journeying Disney worlds with Donald Duck and Goofy ESCALATED INTO THIS MONSTROSITY OF A CLUSTERFUK. No. Keep in mind that the Disney Worlds don't even have meaning to them anymore. They're just...there now. Just like Maleficent and Pete. At first I honestly loved this unexpected duo between the two...BUT THEY'RE JUST THERE. FOUR CAMEOS. THEY SHOWED UP FOUR TIMES IN THE GAME. WHICH AMOUNTED TO N O T H I N G
KH3 just needed to be maybe 10-20 hours longer (3-4 additional Disney worlds and an original world). I don't know why Nomura thought that KH3 should be the game that he cut back on, I would have rather he jam packed it instead of cutting back. I just don't get why Nomura felt like he had to "follow the rules" with proceeding hastily to the Keyblade Graveyard, while for almost everything else in the series he breaks the rules and rewrites it.
The first act should have been Sora visiting worlds to get back the Power of Waking, encountering Maleficent/Pete, eventually finding the Black Box, they battle for it in Radiant Garden or wherever. Final Fantasy gang are your party members here (Leon and Yuffie) as you battle Dragon Maleficent and Pete. After the battle, you look for the Black Box and assume that it was destroyed. Sora feels the Power of Waking has returned, he joins Riku and Mickey in the Realm of Darkness to find Aqua. She succumbs to the darkness in her own heart (being alone and deserted). We fight her and save her.
The second act Sora finds out that the Organization are getting tired of waiting on Sora to gather the guardians, so they are targeting the Princesses of Heart. While Aqua recovers, Sora goes to the worlds to fend off the Organization. After clearing some POH worlds, we get a cutscene of Kairi/Axel's fight (you control Kairi and win). Kairi senses that the other Princesses are in danger and wants to help them. Merlin says that this is a great opportunity to get some field experience. Kairi and Axel join you in the last POH world (Arendelle). Frozen plays out while a more engaging storyline between Sora/Kairi/Axel/Larxene also happens. The second act ends when Aqua, Riku, and Mickey (you control Aqua here) go to Castle Oblivion to awaken Ven. You journey to the Chamber of Awakening. Vanitas follows you there and you fight him. Sora's heart is in agony and he rushes to Castle Oblivion. Aqua beats Vanitas, then Sora releases Ven's heart.
The third act sees the Organization rushing to complete their last member. They need the research from San Fransokyo and The Caribbean. While Sora is in those worlds (because his heart guided him there), we get cutscenes of Aqua/Ven/Riku/Kairi/Axel catching up. Riku and Kairi head to Radiant Garden to help figure out how to bring Namine/Roxas back. Axel talks to Aqua and Ven about their master and if he knew about Girl X -- something awakens in Ven. After Sora finishes the last Disney worlds, they all take the night to rest (Destiny Islands/Papou scene), then they all head to the Keyblade Graveyard. At the end of the game, we see the Luxu reveal and that he has the Black Box.
Looking back at the series, I personally feel that there were so many characters introduced to begin with that were NOT needed in general. Nomura even said himself that he had a hard time juggling the CURRENT cast we have now, did he not? Now with the integration of UX JUST BECAUSE it's nothing more than a cluster of characters and plot points. NONE of them haven't even been resolved. If they didn't want to reveal what was in the box, don't show it. We didn't need this excess of Luxu being a body snatcher, Ventus, Demyx, Larxene, Luxord, and Marluxia SOMEHOW being those of the distant pass. Then there's this needless trio between Isa, Lea, and this mysterious girl. It's...it makes me frustrated that the story of a boy journeying Disney worlds with Donald Duck and Goofy ESCALATED INTO THIS MONSTROSITY OF A CLUSTERFUK. No. Keep in mind that the Disney Worlds don't even have meaning to them anymore. They're just...there now. Just like Maleficent and Pete. At first I honestly loved this unexpected duo between the two...BUT THEY'RE JUST THERE. FOUR CAMEOS. THEY SHOWED UP FOUR TIMES IN THE GAME. WHICH AMOUNTED TO N O T H I N G
Tbh, I feel like Nomura may not be very interested in the main cast these days. At the same time he was working on KH3, he was writing new updates for UX, and it seems like that story just grew into this beast that's become far more appealing to him. Obviously UX is a mess of a game, but as someone who has been following it since the very beginning, I maintain that its main scenario is one of the best written in the series. With that constant reminder lingering in the back of his mind, I'd imagine Nomura just couldn't help himself and included all these references and tie-ins in KH3 :\
Needless to say, it did more harm than good as most of these went absolutely nowhere. Should have just kept them all in the Final World and Secret Reports IMO.
I mean it kind of made sense. When Xemnas laid out why certain people were part of the new Organization, I was like... OK, I buy it. The Xehanorts (and Luxu), Axel/Saix (because they were looking for Girl X), Elrena/Lauriam/Durol/Emyd were ancient keyblade wielders, and Replica Riku 2.0 and Xion 2.0.
I think what KH needs to work on more is world building. It would give depth to the story if Elrena/Lauriam/Durol/Emyd were from Disney worlds and/or original KH worlds that we visited. The easy connection and build towards KHIV would be to slap anyone with no background into KHUX. The Luxu reveal was cool, even to me as someone who knew very little about KHUX. It would be great if Emyd was an ancient keyblade wielder from Atlantica who Triton knows about from their myths or something. I'm glad that Xemnas kept it vague on their "ancient keyblade connection" status, so at least that means they can possibly connect them to Disney worlds instead of straight to KHUX. I can easily see Durol as an ancient keyblade wielder from Agrabah who encountered the Genie while "playing a game" to break into the Cave of Wonders.
Yeah it does make sense that Larxene and co. had a reason for being included in the two versions of the Organisation. It does explain why Xehanort would want to keep them around, but it also makes this grand Universe feel small.
It kind of feels like there's just 2 to 3 places of relevant. All characters are either from Destiny Island, Radiant Garden, Daybrake Town or their origins are tied to someone from there. It's basically having a massive world to explore, but everyone you meet are from the same three villages, one of which you're from.
Sure we still don't know a lot about these characters and perhaps the keyblade legacy for Luxord and Demyx is different from Marli and Larx.
Even, if not, there is the chance they all might have been separated upon entering the current era and lived a few years in different world before becoming Heartless and Nobodies, which could slightly help make the universe seem less small.
Needless to say, it did more harm than good as most of these went absolutely nowhere. Should have just kept them all in the Final World and Secret Reports IMO.
Agreed additional info, such as Larxene, Maluxia, Demyx and Luxord having ancient ties to the Keblade, would have worked better as footnotes in a Secret Report. Even the possibility of there the role of PoH being passed on could be in a report.
Personally I'd have dropped the new PoH plotline and have all Org members either work on something for the Replika project or finding that Black Box for Xigbar.
It also makes more sense to me that the PoH would change after KH3 instead of KH1
Tbh, I feel like Nomura may not be very interested in the main cast these days. At the same time he was working on KH3, he was writing new updates for UX, and it seems like that story just grew into this beast that's become far more appealing to him. Obviously UX is a mess of a game, but as someone who has been following it since the very beginning, I maintain that its main scenario is one of the best written in the series. With that constant reminder lingering in the back of his mind, I'd imagine Nomura just couldn't help himself and included all these references and tie-ins in KH3 :\
Needless to say, it did more harm than good as most of these went absolutely nowhere. Should have just kept them all in the Final World and Secret Reports IMO.
I just don't get why he would be more interested in KHUX. I try to read about it and it just is so meh. No one is of particular interest to me and it just doesn't even feel like KH at all. Maybe the novel will change my mind.
I think the problem with KH's world building is that they make only certain places important and everywhere else is just "filler Disney world". I wish they would find a way to truly connect the Disney worlds with the main story. I always found it interesting that the mechanics of "making a heart" was different in Halloween Town than say how Pinocchio or the Replicas got hearts. To me, little quirks like that shouldn't be ignored, but celebrated and used further. I don't care if there's some crap excuse to bringing back a dead Disney villain in a world, I rather an original story in the Disney world linked to the main story and have the Disney villain magically return and be a part of the story (unless they never intend to return to that world).
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I just don't get why he would be more interested in KHUX. I try to read about it and it just is so meh. No one is of particular interest to me and it just doesn't even feel like KH at all. Maybe the novel will change my mind.
I think the problem with KH's world building is that they make only certain places important and everywhere else is just "filler Disney world". I wish they would find a way to truly connect the Disney worlds with the main story. I always found it interesting that the mechanics of "making a heart" was different in Halloween Town than say how Pinocchio or the Replicas got hearts. To me, little quirks like that shouldn't be ignored, but celebrated and used further. I don't care if there's some crap excuse to bringing back a dead Disney villain in a world, I rather an original story in the Disney world linked to the main story and have the Disney villain magically return and be a part of the story (unless they never intend to return to that world).
I second this. Not even Disney Town, y'know world of the MAIN Disney group has ANY relevance whatsoever. It's litetally....just there for minigames. All of the Disney worlds are just there. And rather than making a world for them, we instead get some useless rehash of the movie's storyplot without ANY of the characters doing anything to convey to the plot. Just like the Disney worlds....SDG, TAV, and the Organization are just there......just because.
At this point it only makes me worried about the Disney worlds as a whole. If they're just there for levels then they shouldn't be there at all. It's nothing more than a useless asset with such wasted opportunities with an excuse to squeeze in Let it Go in the mix.
I am cool with the idea of Luxord being from the past but it is just happening so much in the series. It's making me feel like why should I care about any character introduced in the series because they are probably going to be revealed as someone else down the line.
I am cool with the idea of Luxord being from the past but it is just happening so much in the series. It's making me feel like why should I care about any character introduced in the series because they are probably going to be revealed as someone else down the line.
I WAS cool with Luxord being in the past. He could've been some time traveler if anything since Time's his thing. BUT TIME TRAVELING'S LITETARLLY EVERYONE'S THING NOW So I don't care anymore.
I WAS cool with Luxord being in the past. He could've been some time traveler if anything since Time's his thing. BUT TIME TRAVELING'S LITETARLLY EVERYONE'S THING NOW So I don't care anymore.
Right, it's like if suddenly Namine is shown wielding a keyblade during the secret ending. My reaction won't be wow that is cool, it will be everybody and their aunt is getting a keyblade so it will be weirder if she didn't have 1. Just like time travel getting a keyblade is not a big deal anymore in this story.
Right, it's like if suddenly Namine is shown wielding a keyblade during the secret ending. My reaction won't be wow that is cool, it will be everybody and their aunt is getting a keyblade so it will be weirder if she didn't have 1. Just like time travel getting a keyblade is not a big deal anymore in this story.
Which absolutely takes away the allure and mystery surrounding the Keyblade. Why couldn’t everybody else have their own weapons and specialties?
Right, it's like if suddenly Namine is shown wielding a keyblade during the secret ending. My reaction won't be wow that is cool, it will be everybody and their aunt is getting a keyblade so it will be weirder if she didn't have
I just started to think of keyblade wilder as a race. they almost when extinct after the war and now are only just starting to repopulate.
At the same time he was working on KH3, he was writing new updates for UX, and it seems like that story just grew into this beast that's become far more appealing to him.
With that constant reminder lingering in the back of his mind, I'd imagine Nomura just couldn't help himself and included all these references and tie-ins in KH3 :\
This feels like the ultimate answer to all the questions I've had about Nomura ever since KH3 came out. My search for why it turned out the way it did has a concrete answer now, this is the root of it all.
Which absolutely takes away the allure and mystery surrounding the Keyblade. Why couldn’t everybody else have their own weapons and specialties?
Yea it just feels like Nomura has no faith in the fanbase to care about a character if they don't have a keyblade. It's sort of like my point in another thread that Nomura forces characters to have connections to each other because he thinks if Aqua/Terra would flop if the fans don't see how they directly impacted S/R/K.
Demyx, Luxord, Larxene, and Marluxia are way more interesting with their own weapons than with keyblades. Axel was way cooler with the chakram.
The boss fights will also be so repetitive if everyone has a keyblade. In KH1, there was only one boss with a keyblade (Riku). KH2 was Roxas (FM only). KH3 was special because it was the "keyblade war", but it'll start to lose its flair if more and more bosses use a keyblade over a unique weapon (wow, we reached the point that the keyblade isn't a unique weapon anymore).
Demyx, Luxord, Larxene, and Marluxia are way more interesting with their own weapons than with keyblades. Axel was way cooler with the chakram.
The boss fights will also be so repetitive if everyone has a keyblade. In KH1, there was only one boss with a keyblade (Riku). KH2 was Roxas (FM only). KH3 was special because it was the "keyblade war", but it'll start to lose its flair if more and more bosses use a keyblade over a unique weapon (wow, we reached the point that the keyblade isn't a unique weapon anymore).
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What happened to this? There can't be two keyblade masters? Because after this...it's gone south. We went from a fight for one Keyblade...to this.
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In short, this is what this joke of a weapon's reduced to.
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In short, this is what this joke of a weapon's reduced to.
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I mean Riku's comment could be reduced to his lack of knowledge of the keyblade (although reality is that Nomura didn't expect a sequel and/or didn't think about whether there should be only one keyblade master). However, I do think that he was thinking of other keyblade wielders possibly existing as Triton obviously knew about others that were not Sora and Leon knew about the keyblade, so there had to have been other wielders besides Sora. On top of all of that, Mickey has a keyblade at the end of KH1.
I think the only people I'm mad at having a keyblade out of the current lineup is Axel. He was just SO much better with the chakram and I personally find his keyblade ugly and uninspired.
The new keyblade masters that are the villains (Foretellers), I'm hoping a significant number of them are wiped out in the side-game before KHIV (kinda like CoM cleansing Organization XIII before KH2). That will allow a reduction in keyblade wielders and Nomura just needs to stop with giving everyone a keyblade. I mean, it really makes me question why Axel got one, but Donald and Goofy didn't. NOT THAT I WANT THEM TO, but the in-game logic is off. Axel got one by being heroic? So what do Donald and Goofy do?
I mean Riku's comment could be reduced to his lack of knowledge of the keyblade (although reality is that Nomura didn't expect a sequel and/or didn't think about whether there should be only one keyblade master). However, I do think that he was thinking of other keyblade wielders possibly existing as Triton obviously knew about others that were not Sora and Leon knew about the keyblade, so there had to have been other wielders besides Sora. On top of all of that, Mickey has a keyblade at the end of KH1.
I think the only people I'm mad at having a keyblade out of the current lineup is Axel. He was just SO much better with the chakram and I personally find his keyblade ugly and uninspired.
The new keyblade masters that are the villains (Foretellers), I'm hoping a significant number of them are wiped out in the side-game before KHIV (kinda like CoM cleansing Organization XIII before KH2). That will allow a reduction in keyblade wielders and Nomura just needs to stop with giving everyone a keyblade. I mean, it really makes me question why Axel got one, but Donald and Goofy didn't. NOT THAT I WANT THEM TO, but the in-game logic is off. Axel got one by being heroic? So what do Donald and Goofy do?
Keep in mind that half the people given Keyblades got them in ways that don't make sense or....just there.
Has Riku always had the keyblade? Like....how did the Soul Eater transform into the Way of the Dawn? Has it always been a Keyblade? Secondly..............K A I R I. She....touches Aqua's Keyblade by accident and her light JUST allows her to weild one? Keep in mind that her Keyblade was HAND-BASKETED BY RIKU OUT OF NOWHERE. Just like Lea, I still don't understand how these two got a Keyblade. The process seems so....underdeveloped. It just makes no sense anymore.
Keep in mind that half the people given Keyblades got them in ways that don't make sense or....just there.
Has Riku always had the keyblade? Like....how did the Soul Eater transform into the Way of the Dawn? Has it always been a Keyblade? Secondly..............K A I R I. She....touches Aqua's Keyblade by accident and her light JUST allows her to weild one? Keep in mind that her Keyblade was HAND-BASKETED BY RIKU OUT OF NOWHERE. Just like Lea, I still don't understand how these two got a Keyblade. The process seems so....underdeveloped. It just makes no sense anymore.
It sucks that the explanation is only in an interview from days past, but Riku still has the power of a Keyblade wielder despite not having a Keyblade of his own. At some point during his journey between CoM/Days and the latter half of KH2, Riku proved his worth again and by using Soul Eater as a conduit, he was able to summon Way to the Dawn.
Kairi is more confusing since she never once is given an explanation of how her Keyblade comes about, but it is theorized that it was coming to her in that moment when she is trying to get to Sora in TWTNW but Riku takes it before it reached her and he hands it off. As for her getting the power to wield, yeah that was bullshit. So just touching somebody with a Keyblade can result in wielding one of one proves their worth? LOL k
Lea was given a rite by Mickey or Yen Sid when he goes to the Mysterious Tower in DDD, so that explains that, just not the haphazard manner in which he calls on his Keyblade at the end of the game. WHOOPS SURPRISE. Gosh how dumb.
Lea was given a rite by Mickey or Yen Sid when he goes to the Mysterious Tower in DDD, so that explains that, just not the haphazard manner in which he calls on his Keyblade at the end of the game. WHOOPS SURPRISE. Gosh how dumb.
Just based on what you wrote, couldn't Lea have gotten his the same way Riku did? He got the rite of passage, and then, by saving Sora in DDD (as well as his own strength of heart), proved his worth in weilding a Keyblade while using his chakrams as an intermediary/conduit to give the blade physical form. Another reason he might have struggled to use it earlier was because it was established he still actively used the darkness in the form of the CoD, so perhaps that played a factor? Aw, but then there's the case of Xehanort, and Roxas/Xion (at least, while they were in the organization), so idk.
I think Adrien said it at some point, but it'd really be nice if they just gave us a detailed understanding on what Keyblade wielders are and how exactly they function, that way we wouldn't have so many lingering questions/gripes. But alas, they'd never want to employ strict guidelines on the nature of their main protagonist if it means they can sacrifice consistency & continuity.
I wouldn't mind if Nomura took the concept art of the Royal Arms from Versus XIII, the Royal Arms are clearly different from the ones in XV, and repurposed them for either new bosses or mooks. I'm sure he has the concept art of them lying around somewhere.
Or give them to not-Noctis cause that's probably going to happen.
I wouldn't mind if Nomura took the concept art of the Royal Arms from Versus XIII, the Royal Arms are clearly different from the ones in XV, and repurposed them for either new bosses or mooks. I'm sure he has the concept art of them lying around somewhere.
Or give them to not-Noctis cause that's probably going to happen.
Wasn't the moveset of KH3's Ultimate Form, in part, stylized off the royal armaments? I kinda got that sense when looking at how Sora blocks in that form (which looks very similar to how Noctis often summoned his weapons, though I can't remember if it was that way in versus 13), but it'd still be interesting seeing something closer to what was in v13. Perhaps with some added story or depth behind them, which would be refreshing since (as I said previously) the nature of Keyblades and what exactly they are feel fluid and vague in terms of how they're presented in the series. As does all the Oganization's weapons.
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To be fair, the localization took some liberties with the script. The Japanese version doesn't refer Sora as the Keyblade master; rather, he was the Keyblade hero (which is kind of an awkward title in English hence why they didn't use it).
Japanese Riku actually says here that "there doesn't need to be two heroes."
I go back and forth what line sound cooler. There is an inherent smugness to Riku calling himself the hero.
CoM introduced scythes, daggers, another shield user, a battle axe, and chakrams.
KH2 introduced a sniper, claymore, lance, cards, sitar, book, and ethereal blades.
KH3 introduced plenty of new weapons, but gave them all to Sora.
To be fair, the localization took some liberties with the script. The Japanese version doesn't refer Sora as the Keyblade master; rather, he was the Keyblade hero (which is kind of an awkward title in English hence why they didn't use it).
Japanese Riku actually says here that "there doesn't need to be two heroes."
CoM introduced scythes, daggers, another shield user, a battle axe, and chakrams.
KH2 introduced a sniper, claymore, lance, cards, sitar, book, and ethereal blades.
KH3 introduced plenty of new weapons, but gave them all to Sora.
Smugger and wants me to slap Riku over the head even more. They didn't really need to change it for that scene. Riku saw himself as the hero. Told Sora he can "play hero" with the wooden sword. "Keyblade hero" is awkward, but changing "hero" to something else takes away part of Riku's mindset, or at least makes that part less clear.
The Keyblade becoming a magical swiss army knife is just...too much.
HE CRAPS OUT AMUSEMENT PARK RIDES OUTTA NOWHERE. I love the concept, BUT YEEEEEEAH....between the swiss army knife and suddenly crapping out amusement park rides....a bit too much for a key so overrated. ESPECIALLY OF THOSE AMSUEMENT PARK RIDES HAVE NO REAL INFORMATION ABOUT THEM and it's just....WHOOOP Sora can summon amusent park rides now. Granted it was epic using it against the Rock Titan....but that's literally it. Something like that wasn't brought up again until the final world...and it looked so goofy with it.
I would've appreciated it more if EVERY chance of getting those rides weren't SHOVED in literally EVERY battle.
The Keyblade becoming a Swiss Army knife is a pretty accurate way to describe Keyblade transformations.
Still love them though ?
The Keyblade becoming a Swiss Army knife is a pretty accurate way to describe Keyblade transformations.
Still love them though ?
I do too. I really do. It's...just hard to keep loving it if there's an entire country full of wielders, and just about everyone and their grandmas can nab one....just because. It takes away that mystery and uniqueness that we've seen in KH1. (I'm still salty on how Kairi got hers. It literally makes no sense.)
HE CRAPS OUT AMUSEMENT PARK RIDES OUTTA NOWHERE. I love the concept, BUT YEEEEEEAH....between the swiss army knife and suddenly crapping out amusement park rides....a bit too much for a key so overrated. ESPECIALLY OF THOSE AMSUEMENT PARK RIDES HAVE NO REAL INFORMATION ABOUT THEM and it's just....WHOOOP Sora can summon amusent park rides now. Granted it was epic using it against the Rock Titan....but that's literally it. Something like that wasn't brought up again until the final world...and it looked so goofy with it.
I would've appreciated it more if EVERY chance of getting those rides weren't SHOVED in literally EVERY battle.
Sora: "Oh, no, I'm fine. In fact, I'm more powerful than ever!"
Yen Sid: "Now you must regain all the strength."
Sora: "You've seen my new magic, right? I can level a whole city with a twist of the wrist!"
Yen Sid: "Perhaps it is foolish to expe-
Sora: "And my Keyblade can transform into all these amazing things now!"
Yen Sid: "It is absolutely vital you perfect one po-
Sora: "I CAN SHIT OUT A WHOLE AMUSEMENT PARK!"
I do too. I really do. It's...just hard to keep loving it if there's an entire country full of wielders, and just about everyone and their grandmas can nab one....just because. It takes away that mystery and uniqueness that we've seen in KH1. (I'm still salty on how Kairi got hers. It literally makes no sense.)
For me it will probably be better if there were more random keyblade wielders in the current time tbh. Like there is no chance Sora is going to stumble upon a random dude named Jim at Hollow Bastion swinging around a keyblade.
I think the story would have flown better if we saw more wielders out in the open. Sora and his geek friends would not have been GOL just because they had keyblades but rather the bonds they share with each other that makes them more qualified than Jim. From how I saw the story unfold the reason why the 7 lights were chosen were because they can wield but my issue is is that the game has not made me believe it's this herculean task to get a key of your own.
So, on one hand, it's hard to find wielders because you don't interact with them out in the open so it makes a unique characteristic but on the other hand it does not seem too difficult if you want one to get it. The only people off the top of my head not including Ux(since I don't play it) that wanted a key and did not get it were Jack Sparrow, Marluxia (memory is hazy here but you can argue having Sora as his puppet would have been just as good for him) and Xigbar/Braig (and given his past is also debatable.)
So to me it seems Nomura is trying to play it both ways in the present time in that being a keyblade wielders is extremely rare but also almost every game original hero characters started with 1 or just gets one down the line. I rather Nomura just pick a side and either make it so you interact and see characters with a key who are not involved in the main plot or minimize the number of holders to like Sora and 2-3 others and really highly how unique it is to be picked as a wielder.
Sorry for the terrible rant but I am exhausted with jet lag as I write this in the middle of the night so I probably made some mistakes a long the way.
For me it will probably be better if there were more random keyblade wielders in the current time tbh. Like there is no chance Sora is going to stumble upon a random dude named Jim at Hollow Bastion swinging around a keyblade.
I think the story would have flown better if we saw more wielders out in the open. Sora and his geek friends would not have been GOL just because they had keyblades but rather the bonds they share with each other that makes them more qualified than Jim. From how I saw the story unfold the reason why the 7 lights were chosen were because they can wield but my issue is is that the game has not made me believe it's this herculean task to get a key of your own.
So, on one hand, it's hard to find wielders because you don't interact with them out in the open so it makes a unique characteristic but on the other hand it does not seem too difficult if you want one to get it. The only people off the top of my head not including Ux(since I don't play it) that wanted a key and did not get it were Jack Sparrow, Marluxia (memory is hazy here but you can argue having Sora as his puppet would have been just as good for him) and Xigbar/Braig (and given his past is also debatable.)
So to me it seems Nomura is trying to play it both ways in the present time in that being a keyblade wielders is extremely rare but also almost every game original hero characters started with 1 or just gets one down the line. I rather Nomura just pick a side and either make it so you interact and see characters with a key who are not involved in the main plot or minimize the number of holders to like Sora and 2-3 others and really highly how unique it is to be picked as a wielder.
Sorry for the terrible rant but I am exhausted with jet lag as I write this in the middle of the night so I probably made some mistakes a long the way.
I guess the reason why we see so many wielders is because we're following a story that revolves around keyblade wielders. It's like superheroes. We see loads of them in the comics because the comics are about them, but in the comic world you wouldn't see a random superhero easily.
But the way that KH3 is set up, it makes it seem like the Guardians of Light that we know are the only keyblade wielders that will qualify for "pure light". It's actually kind of interesting to think about -- Xehanort didn't go to other keyblade wielders as the backup lights, he chose the New Seven Hearts. This means either the other keyblade wielders that exist at the time of KH3 don't qualify as "pure light" or there are no other keyblade wielders. Xehanort could have easily beaten to a pulp someone chosen by the keyblade who had no experience in using it or assembled 7 inexperienced keyblade wielders to achieve his goal... but maybe they don't exist?
I guess the reason why we see so many wielders is because we're following a story that revolves around keyblade wielders. It's like superheroes. We see loads of them in the comics because the comics are about them, but in the comic world you wouldn't see a random superhero easily.
But the way that KH3 is set up, it makes it seem like the Guardians of Light that we know are the only keyblade wielders that will qualify for "pure light". It's actually kind of interesting to think about -- Xehanort didn't go to other keyblade wielders as the backup lights, he chose the New Seven Hearts. This means either the other keyblade wielders that exist at the time of KH3 don't qualify as "pure light" or there are no other keyblade wielders. Xehanort could have easily beaten to a pulp someone chosen by the keyblade who had no experience in using it or assembled 7 inexperienced keyblade wielders to achieve his goal... but maybe they don't exist?
Well from what I recall in KH2 Xemnas and company were pretty adamant in needing Sora to kill all those heartless to free those hearts. I guess they either knew Sora was the only keyblade dude around or they just figure since they haven't seen anyone else that means Sora has to be the only one left. I guess there is a chance some off-screen wielder was freeing some hearts to help build the phony kingdom hearts but I will expect with how all knowing the villains are that they will figure it out.
Well from what I recall in KH2 Xemnas and company were pretty adamant in needing Sora to kill all those heartless to free those hearts. I guess they either knew Sora was the only keyblade dude around or they just figure since they haven't seen anyone else that means Sora has to be the only one left. I guess there is a chance some off-screen wielder was freeing some hearts to help build the phony kingdom hearts but I will expect with how all knowing the villains are that they will figure it out.
I thought the events of KH1 (all the heartless being killed by Sora) was enough to create the Kingdom Hearts we saw in KH2? If not... then who was killing the heartless? Maybe it was Terranort?
I thought the events of KH1 (all the heartless being killed by Sora) was enough to create the Kingdom Hearts we saw in KH2? If not... then who was killing the heartless? Maybe it was Terranort?
AFAIK I believe they still needed Roxas during days and Sora in kh2 to beat up some heartless just because I remember Saix telling Sora to keep freeing heart so they can reach their goal during the big hollow bastion sequence. Could be way off though.
I feel like one of the issues with the Keyblade is that the lore around it is so influx that it's hard for us to really nail it down. Which I think is a bit deliberate to give Nomura and the other writers more flexibility, but it's kind of exhausting for us fans.
We basically knew there were other Keyblade wielders since the first game with Mickey and Roxas both being shown with keyblades, but the impression was it was still rare.
Which technically they still are, seeing only the main characters wield them and given what we know now clusters of wielders forming isn't to far fetched, but it does rob the keyblade from feeling like a unique weapon.
Sadly I feel with how they set up the lore, it was kind of a necessity to make major players keyblade wielders. Seeing world travling options are limited to CoD, Keyblades and powerful magic.
There's a possibility that they could try and switch things up a bit using Keyblade Transformations, give each cast member a signature transformation, such as the chakrams for Axel.
KH3 DLC ReMind, Famitsu's intervew to Nomura:
"What was shown in the PV is not a limit cut scene where you can fight against one of the strongest class. There isn't any limit cut battle in the PV, what the PV shows is just part of the added scenario"
"Sora's oathkeeper and it's new form it's the only free DLC that will be released simultaneously"
"We're planning to have almost the same number of Limit cut Boss as KH2 Final Mix"
"There are added scenarios, Limit cut episode&boss, secret episode & Boss"
"We still don't know the release date but we don't want to approach too much to FF7 Remake so we will release it sooner"
"You can control Roxas as Riku and Aqua if you go to the added scenarios"
"You have to clear/complete the main story first to enjoy the added scenarios"
Source Ryokutya http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/21152
This guy always get news from anime and games before it's officially announced so it's probably 100% true. And magazines like Famitsu o Mangas are always released before it's release day in some sites in Japan.
KH13 has also already reported about these news. So yeah it’s official. :)
I would have preferred if they included the new scenario during the main story. And I still don’t understand what “Limit cut” is supposed to mean (I’m not a native speaker).
KH13 has also already reported about these news. So yeah it’s official. :)
I would have preferred if they included the new scenario during the main story. And I still don’t understand what “Limit cut” is supposed to mean (I’m not a native speaker).
“Limit Cut” was originally a term used by Famitsu to refer to additional content in KH2FM. The Japanese community more commonly uses it to refer to the data battles.
The issue will be formally released in about 7 hours? So we’ll just get it up then, there likely won’t be anything else since FF7R is the focus.
Hm... sounds like we haven't seen much yet.
But I'm a bit confused, seeing I assumed Limit Cut to refer to the extra FM content.
So is Limit Cut here just refering to the boss fights or does it also incluse story elements?
Not going to lie the fact that it sounds like the playable characters we've been shown sofar are all the one's we'll be getting is a bit disappointing to me, was hopping we'd get to play as more of the guardians.
Hmm, I'm subscribed to the magazine walker(mostly to read Manga) but I always get the Shuukan Famitsu and other magazines like the Dengeki Playstation, etc.
So I will post the pages from the interview here at 0:00 in Japan (as Sign said 7 hours)
I was looking for a KH3 page to read the interview but the interview about the DLC was on the same page as FF7R
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It just occured to me that Luxord may have been the one to bring all the Union era characters(Laurium, Elrena, Demyx, Ventus, Skuld?, possibly others) to the present. Would give reason for time being his element
It just occured to me that Luxord may have been the one to bring all the Union era characters(Laurium, Elrena, Demyx, Ventus, Skuld?, possibly others) to the present. Would give reason for time being his element
As I said before Time is just about E v E r Y o N e ' S element at this point. Keep in mind it could also be Young Xehanort bringing them all back by order of possibly Xemnas. Luxord himself needed a way to be brought back, too.
Square-Enix will be present at Gamescom (August 19 -24):
KH3 demo is part of Square-Enix lineup - https://gematsu.com/2019/08/square-enix-announces-gamescom-2019-lineup
(Logical reason for this would be to reach more people that still don't have the game)
Host Geoff Keighley also posted this on ResetEra:
We've got some great stuff lined up for this show -- just to set expectations, there will be some brand new game announcements and surprises, but lots of new content for highly anticipated games you already know about coming later this year and in 2020. |
I'm still keeping my expectations low and only expect something next month at TGS, but who knows. It got my attention.
Square-Enix will be present at Gamescom (August 19 -24):
KH3 demo is part of Square-Enix lineup - https://gematsu.com/2019/08/square-enix-announces-gamescom-2019-lineup
(Logical reason for this would be to reach more people that still don't have the game)
Host Geoff Keighley also posted this on ResetEra:
I'm still keeping my expectations low and only expect something next month at TGS, but who knows. It got my attention.
Yeah, the demo is just Toy Box / Olympus like it has been. Its the same as when they would bring FFXV to every event after it released. They are trying to bring it to people's attention because the holiday season is coming up, which means they want/need to push and sell through their existing shipped copies.
I can't say much on the possibility of Re:MIND content because it'll come when it comes, but it'd be nice if there was something at Gamescom.
New trailer showing that Sora was blipped and the DLC is an Endgame world.
A guy can dream.
Just realized there's also D23 (23-25 August) this week. Either that or Gamescom may give us something new.
New trailer showing that Sora was blipped and the DLC is an Endgame world.
A guy can dream.
MoM: “People will believe in anything”
I have very low expectations.
I have very low expectations.
Okay, know what? Not a bad thing. Let's all keep our expectations low so we're not massively disappointed.
My expectations are lower than the characters' intelligence.
My expectations are lower than the characters' intelligence.
It doesn't get lower than this, folks.
It doesn't get lower than this, folks.
I dunno, Goofy's pretty clever
I hope we get info about a release date soon. I'm hoping for late November/early December or January.
I hope we get info about a release date soon. I'm hoping for late November/early December or January.
Well, we are less than a month away from TGS.
I prefer not hope that much, I think the playable characters will be only playable in fights. However I really hope we will have a sort of Roxas point of vue.
And with the release of Final Fantasy VII remake, I don’t think we will have to wait that long for it to come out.
They do sayed that they didn’t want to get the two out on the same pace.
I do not have that much hope but I’m still really impatient. ⭐︎
I'm getting so impatient for ReMind. I just want another excuse to play KH3 again. I really hope they'll let us take pictures with the other main characters. Like put them in areas of the Graveyard for them to pose or something. So many reactions I want to see and selfies I want to take. Please let it happen. Hurry up and get here Winter! I want my playable RAX section already!
wtf I'm really hyped all of the sudden. Gimmie more KH3 lol
I dunno, Goofy's pretty clever
When Goofy's literally the only intellgent person in the game. Literally.
I dunno, Goofy's pretty clever
When Goofy's literally the only intellgent person in the game. Literally.
Thoughts on this leak?
Thoughts on this leak?
Bit of a contradiction. The supposed leak says that there are ten bosses in the DLC but I believe it was confirmed to be thirteen back in June
I can not see it being real. The thing about that leak is it takes things that we already know and repeats that information, but that’s about it.
We know there’ll be new cutscenes, we know there’ll be a new Keyblade, we know there are other playable guardians of light etc. so it doesn’t go out of its way to get into specifics in order to make the other stuff, like a twilight town mini-game, seem plausible.
I also don’t think that such a direct file size can be known for a DLC that would be releasing in 5 months. Price, yes, but they’d still be working on various things and optimisation that such a number would be in constant fluctuation.
Like prior to KH3’s release, people jumped on fake rumours and spoilers and believed in them so much they accepted them as truth despite evidence to the contrary. I really hope we don’t have a similar situation in the lead up to the DLC. Discussion and theory is always fine and welcome, but blind faith in something that people have pointed out as incorrect is exhausting. Debate the contents of that “leak” to your hearts content but I really hope no one hangs on to it and, when Remind releases, isn’t like “This was support to have a mini-game in twilight town and there isn’t one! Worst game ever; this is so disappointing and the devs were lazy for not including the one that I read about months ago from an unverified source.”
Thoughts on this leak?
| ⁃ New PG Interactions (Riku,Mickey,Aqua,Ventus,Roxas,Lea,Kairi,Xion) |
Thoughts on this leak?
That is so fake. The composition of it is just so bad and not congruent with SE’s internal documents
I feel like I'm waiting for KH3 again... I just want a release date! That's all I want to know!
I beat KH3 3 times this year and I'm waiting on ReMIND to do the 4th playthrough.
I hope the dlc doesn't water down Xehanort.
I'm hoping for a new HD opening video featuring the official "Face My Fears (Orchestra Version)".
Welp, we didn't get any new info last week and there was Gamescom, a KH3 concert and D23 Expo.
There's PAX West this week, but I doubt it. TGS is still the safest bet.
Welp, we didn't get any new info last week and there was Gamescom, a KH3 concert and D23 Expo.
There's PAX West this week, but I doubt it. TGS is still the safest bet.
At best I could see PAX getting whatever UX news is coming out for the anniversary.
Welp, we didn't get any new info last week and there was Gamescom, a KH3 concert and D23 Expo.
There's PAX West this week, but I doubt it. TGS is still the safest bet.
I think TGS is better for it anyway, even though I'd love it if we get new info sooner. Cause then if we get it now, then lower chances of a trailer at TGS since we got something already. Plus it feels right to have KH3 hype AND FF7 Remake hype at the same time. But that's how I feel.
well Square has released their line up for TGS and KH is nowhere to be found :cry:
I'm not sure they would advertise a DLC for a released game in their lineup. Did they for the FFXV episodes in the past?
I'm not sure they would advertise a DLC for a released game in their lineup. Did they for the FFXV episodes in the past?
Yes
Yes
Abandon all hope, ye who enters TGS
[SPOILER]nah it’s coming. Can’t believe people think it’s been cancelled. [/SPOILER]
I just want to note that the way SE markets KH is not the same as how they marketed FFXV. Comparisons can’t really be drawn between the two.
I just want to note that the way SE markets KH is not the same as how they marketed FFXV. Comparisons can’t really be drawn between the two.
It'd be a dream if SE treated KH at the same level as FFXV xD
But honestly, FFXV had a lot to prove, and the Lumimous Engine team knew they had a lot to prove (and had the DLC qualifications chosen provided before launch) but Kingdom Hearts has had this known for over a decade now.
Honestly, we need to look at the Final Mixes and be THANKFUL that we aren't stuck in that time period. I feel that new members don't realise that us long term fans had to wait over a decade to get additional material for the game. Three months since E3 is nothing compared since the 12 years since KHII.5 and longer since KH1.5
There's also the possibility of Sony releasing a new trailer during their exhibition (if there's one), and Square will just drop it online.
Worst case scenario we will only get a new trailer at Jump Festa (December). Surely we can wait a few more months, right guys?! RIGHT??!
It'd be a dream if SE treated KH at the same level as FFXV xD
But honestly, FFXV had a lot to prove, and the Lumimous Engine team knew they had a lot to prove (and had the DLC qualifications chosen provided before launch) but Kingdom Hearts has had this known for over a decade now.
Honestly, we need to look at the Final Mixes and be THANKFUL that we aren't stuck in that time period. I feel that new members don't realise that us long term fans had to wait over a decade to get additional material for the game. Three months since E3 is nothing compared since the 12 years since KHII.5 and longer since KH1.5
Europe waited til 2013 for Re:Com and it was mediocre at best, I still cri
[spoiler]So KHUX has new Medals of the Fortellers and I don't recall seeing Ira and Ava in this kind of pose. Do you think they'll show up in Re:Mind?
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:unsure: hmmm...
[spoiler]So KHUX has new Medals of the Fortellers and I don't recall seeing Ira and Ava in this kind of pose. Do you think they'll show up in Re:Mind?
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They've been releasing new Foreteller medals during JP's anniversary for the past few years, and while their poses are new, UX often reposes the models for use in their medals. The first Foreteller medals were in the same boat. It's very possible they are in ReMind, but this isn't really an indication of it.
They've been releasing new Foreteller medals during JP's anniversary for the past few years, and while their poses are new, UX often reposes the models for use in their medals. The first Foreteller medals were in the same boat. It's very possible they are in ReMind, but this isn't really an indication of it.
Yep. Remember they have the pre-existing models. It's just a matter of what I think is a couple of minutes.
But like Sign said, yeah, they'll be in the DLC. ReMIND will most certainly be a bridge between the Xehanort and Foretellers Sagas.
I just want to note that the way SE markets KH is not the same as how they marketed FFXV. Comparisons can’t really be drawn between the two.
Yeah, even if we don't look at XV's history in itself, Final Fantasy is a legendary brand that's been around for decades. Even though people might've thought FFXIII was poo-poo, there's always going to be a crowd to form just on that alone. Kingdom Hearts is just getting mainstream recognition and isn't the most accessible series to jump into. They're both different beasts and can't be marketed the same. Fanbases overlap, but it's apples and oranges.
It'd be a dream if SE treated KH at the same level as FFXV xD
But honestly, FFXV had a lot to prove, and the Lumimous Engine team knew they had a lot to prove (and had the DLC qualifications chosen provided before launch) but Kingdom Hearts has had this known for over a decade now.
Honestly, we need to look at the Final Mixes and be THANKFUL that we aren't stuck in that time period. I feel that new members don't realise that us long term fans had to wait over a decade to get additional material for the game. Three months since E3 is nothing compared since the 12 years since KHII.5 and longer since KH1.5
All things considered, it's a miracle FFXV even came out the way that it did. It's not the perfect game, and years from now, it's probably going to be the most interesting game in discussions development-wise, but really and truly? That game could've ended up way worse.
That's why when I see fans crying about the wait for Final Mixes, I can tell that more often than not, they're newer fans. And there's nothing wrong with that, not trying to be the OG fan elitist. But, they'll come to that realization very soon because once KH3's DLC drops, it's gonna be a few more years until the next big title drops. And I really wouldn't want them to milk Union X until then, unless they do a console version similar to FFXIV and let fans feast on that for a while.
Back in the day, you had to actually BUY the KH2FM+ game in order to play, as well as a Swap Magic package for PS2 or had your console modded. PS2 Emulation back then wasn't anywhere near as functional as it is today, so it was either that or you buy a Japanese PS2. Same with BBS Final Mix, cause I don't think we ended up getting that one either until the ReMIXes. New fans are lucky. I still remember the drought between DDD (original 3DS release) and 0.2/KH Chi/Unchained.
Face My Fears
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