KHInsider Reviews KINGDOM HEARTS -HD 1.5 ReMIX-
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- Published on September 10, 2013 @ 03:34 pm
- Written by Sign
KINGDOM HEARTS -HD 1.5 ReMIX- was revealed last year at the Tokyo Game Show 2012, a surprise to many returning players but not to those who have actively remained in the community for all those years since the series began.
The latter had been expecting it. The secret message found at the end of the series' most recent installment, KINGDOM HEARTS 3D [Dream Drop Distance] had set us up for it.
The past will be reawakened as a new number in never-before-seen detail.
Prepare yourself for the awakening of the next number.
The awakening of the next number without a doubt refers to the recently announced KINGDOM HEARTS III, but the past being reawakened in never-before-seen detail, that was undeniably the remaster. We waited eagerly at the edge of our seats to discover what changes they would make to the familiar titles that would be included; how far would they be willing to go the distance?
However, it was especially important for the former, who had missed out in the series' expansion due to loss of interest, inability to experience the newer titles, or refusal to acknowledge that anything without a roman numeral could ever be of genuine importance to the overall story.
Nevertheless, everyone jumped at the opportunity to relive their younger years, but the introduction of the first HD remaster held more importance than many would realize. It promised to address the apparent issues that came with the constant system jumping it's made since 2009 and bring the community back together in time for the grand finale of the Xehanort Saga.
We would like to thank Square Enix and Disney for giving us the wonderful opportunity to review Kingdom Hearts -HD 1.5 ReMIX-, as well as the readers for sitting through that long introduction. Without further ado, let's get started!
KINGDOM HEARTS FINAL MIX
The one thing players will notice immediately is the visual enhancement. You cannot even begin to compare this title with the quality of the original, and that goes without saying because this is a remaster after all. True to the advertisements, the game has aged incredibly well, easily passing for a new title created entirely from scratch at this point in time. Assets from the original have all been replaced with their updated counterparts from more recent titles, and almost all of those that were not fortunate enough to have the upgrade were tirelessly given great care and precision to make the change. The few that have remained unchanged are few and far between, though that's not to say you won't notice the differences when placed alongside enhanced assets. It is very clear that this was one of, if not the main priority during development - this focus on the visuals above all else.
As such, there are various imperfections that you are likely to come across over the course of the game, primarily the audio glitches and model clipping. That's right, glitches, and for those unfamiliar with the term, "clipping" is used to describe assets that cut into one another when they should have a solid mesh. It is a very widespread issue, present in both cutscenes and battles. The worst offender of this in my opinion would be the Opposite Armor that zooms around the Second District of Traverse Town. At one point, half of its body had disappeared into a wall, and provided the most distracting experience. As for the audio, you may find it cutting out briefly for several seconds, or disappearing completely altogether, causing you to reboot the game or possibly even starting over from scratch.
And then there's the camera. Many players were excited to discover that the camera could now be controlled via the right analog, but was it really worth it? It's convenient and easy to control, but personally, I found that it had actually become worse. It follows you much more closely, but at times it may become a hassle to get it back in control when it veers off course due to quick movements. You'll also find it clipping through the models as well, whether it's a part of the environment (primarily in narrow or cramped areas) or even a party member.
Certain commands were remapped to be initiated with the triangle button rather than scrolling to the option at the bottom of the action menu in the original. This is incredibly convenient especially after 7 years worth of new titles that utilize this function, though it does act as a double-edge sword. In the past, although it was difficult to manage, special attacks were difficult to use due to the control map, but they were clearly set for battle. This time around, you must deal with trying to time the action just right; it's easy to press Triangle, easy to launch the attack, but when you share controls with one that is ordinarily used to command party members, you will find yourself utilizing the wrong move at least once during your playthrough.
Trying to direct Donald and Goofy away from the upcoming onslaught? Whoops, I'm afraid you've just used Ragnarok instead. Now not only are you low on MP, but your friends are still in the path of Maleficent's meteor barrage.
A fairly minor issue, but one that can come back around and bite you if you don't pay much concern to it.
The voice acting has remained unchanged from the original, a sure relief to those who thought they would bring back the actors to record over the lines again for consistency with the more recent titles. This also goes for the additional Final Mix scenes - silent in the original, silent in 1.5 Japanese and silent in 1.5 English. Animations are synced with the English version, though they have not been adjusted at all for the remaster. If you decide to play through Final Mix after Re: Chain of Memories or 358/2 Days, you may notice that the movements are stiffer in comparison, sometimes even awkwardly so.
However, if there's one thing about the series that never disappoints, it's the music, and Yoko Shimomura's rearranged tunes performed by gaQdan is beyond impressive. It really is true that nothing can beat the real deal, and although we'll miss the synths we've grown so familiar with in the past decade, these lovely songs had well deserved their own remaster.
The downside of Final Mix is that although it has the most improvements, it also suffers from the most issues. Hopefully they may be patched somewhere along the line, but if not, let us rejoice that the game that spawned much frustration, agitation and fear from region-exclusive content has finally arrived on western shores, and make the best of it!
Rating: 7/10
KINGDOM HEARTS Re: Chain of Memories
As someone who has experienced the title previously, there honestly isn't very much to say. Of the three titles included in 1.5, Re: Chain of Memories is the most unchanged from its original release. No doubt this doesn't come as a surprise to many; this title was the first to begin utilizing updated assets from previous installments, and those that appeared in newer titles were updated accordingly from these as a foundation.
The most notable changes are the new cards that you can obtain upon completing Kingdom Hearts Final Mix and 358/2 Days, as well as revamped user interface and the visual upgrade. However, these cards only apply to the titles within the remaster, and feels like somewhat of a missed opportunity as they could have included characters from later installments while remaining true to the underlying theme of the game as well as the concept of cards created from memories.
It would have also been a nice little promotion for the second remaster, if new players come across these different characters and aren't sure why they would appear on these cards, encouraging them to continue playing to learn more.
The scenes are still synced with the Japanese voices, and little of the music exclusive to Re:CoM have been lucky enough to receive a new arrangement and recording, which is a little jarring when mixed together with the updated tracks. The distance between synths and real instruments becomes quite clear once you have been exposed to it.
I'm sure that fans in European and PAL regions will definitely enjoy the title, or maybe they won't if they were not partial to the card system all those years ago either. You have been more than patient in the past 4 years, so I hope your experiences will be nothing but pleasant. For North American fans, although there is little change from the 2008 release, perhaps you'll enjoy giving it another go. And if not, please look forward to what's to come from the team who had originally developed this title in less than a year, all that time ago.
Rating: 6/10
KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 Days
I imagine this is where most players will begin after they obtain the game. If you enjoyed the original on the Nintendo DS, you will probably enjoy this as well. If you didn't, it wouldn't hurt to watch the scenes first before making your final decision.
358/2 Days takes place in the year that elapses since Sora frees Kairi's heart in Hollow Bastion to the very beginning of Kingdom Hearts II, focusing on Roxas's time in Organization XIII. Ideally, Days was meant to be completely remade and playable in the remaster, but considering the time constraints and the realization that players would rather have a brand new title altogether instead of a remake, they opted for nearly 3 hours of remade scenes instead.
However, 3 hours worth of cutscenes should not be synonymous with the word "movie." You should not expect a seamless video covering every detail and event that took place. Days follows a chapter-based system; certain events are taken from select days throughout the game and reimagined for the viewer, who posesses the option to view them individually or all at once. However, these scenes primarily focus on the three main characters: Roxas, Axel and Xion.
In the original title, Roxas would be able to interact with other members of the Organization as well as various Disney characters he would happen to meet during his missions. Almost all of these moments have been reduced to stand-still journal entries with a visual in the background. Many important events and pieces of dialogue have also been cut, such as Saix trying to prevent Roxas from defecting from the Organization and Xemnas alluding to Ventus' slumber.
Of course it goes without saying that there is a huge improvement over the original. The textures are clean and detailed while still remaining true to the series' unique art style, and the careful attention to subtle movements, gestures and expressions is always present. Models are still, on occasion, plagued by the infamous "fish face" - low poly models with animated facial textures. It's not as jarring as it's been in the past, but every now and then you'd find a character or two staring out into space even when they are the focus of the scene. Also, because the scenes have remained synced with the original Japanese dub, in English, characters do fall prey to the awkward pauses during dialogue.
What actually surprised me most about the Days theater was the vast improvement in regards to the acting! Not that actors performed poorly in the past, mind you, but there were a few that had cause for concern as we either haven't been exposed to in several years or merely haven't appeared enough to be able to properly judge. I was very pleased to discover that it was just about on point all across the board, though you may have difficulty adjusting to certain characters since it has been several years since we last saw them. The voices they create for the characters in some cases are no longer the same as that from their original appearance.
Two actors in particular that I want to talk about are Jesse McCartney and Alyson Stoner. Jesse McCartney's perfomance is just about flawless; it's a real treat to be able to witness the growth of the Roxas he gives life to; from Roxas joining the Organization just after his birth to his most traumatic and emotionally-strained experiences. Alyson Stoner's Xion is pleasing to the ears; her perfomance is calming, easy to listen to. She starts off rather awkward, and it's understandable as Xion only begins to break out of her shell, speaking as though it is unfamiliar and her mouth doesn't know what to do. Like Roxas, she begins to speak more confidently as time goes by, and balances well with him.
I'm afraid the script leaves something to be desired in comparison to the original, as they were very limited in having to accomodate for the lip syncing. As such, we had to sacrifice such gems as "Do you always have to stare at me like I just drowned your goldfish?" The liberties that were taken with localization are gone, though I suppose the script is now closer to that of the Japanese version, which some players may appreciate.
All in all, it definitely doesn't grant the player the same information as they would have from playing through on the DS, but it makes due with what they have. 358/2 Days is a treasure trove of information, and they were still able to cram in the bulk of the important content, albeit sacrificing development for certain characters and the flow of the plot. However, their efforts were not made in vain, and fans of the series or characters may be able to sit back and enjoy these three hours, no matter how broken the experience may appear to be.
RATING: 8/10
Overall, I'm sure we can agree that there are certain things that can be improved, had they been given enough time and resources to make it happen. That's not to say the remaster is "bad;" in fact when you compare it to others it probably ranks among the very top. It's when you evaluate the issues that were addressed in order to obtain the the final product that you realize just where things happened to fall flat. However, the team of staff made things work with what they had, and still managed to come up on top with a superb remaster. There were some hit and misses, but if perfection did exist, I can't imagine why we'd be interested in it. The flaws give us something to look forward to in the future, and we'll eagerly await to see what they've learned with this experience that can be applied to their future projects.
KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 ReMIX: 7/10
COMMENTS
Thank you for the review!
I saw in the forms that a lot of people are experiencing the sound problems which is a shame. I don't mind thought because it will wait the the shelf for sometime. I will wait for an update too. I'm looking forward playing RE:CoM especially because we only got the GBA edition here in EU. Can't wait for 2.5 to be released. Am I being to hasty?:cool:
Ouch, I was expecting something more positive, but I guess the game itself don't allow it, too bad, let's hope they fix the technical problems for 2.5.
I think that's a general misconception that as fansites, we're obligated to give the games more praise than negativity. (Honestly my score was originally a bit lower than it is now, but I was sabotaged by adorable staff).
It's a great game, but the issues are present and do need to be acknowledged.
Thank you for the review!
I saw in the forms that a lot of people are experiencing the sound problems which is a shame. I don't mind thought because it will wait the the shelf for sometime. I will wait for an update too. I'm looking forward playing RE:CoM especially because we only got the GBA edition here in EU. Can't wait for 2.5 to be released. Am I being to hasty?:cool:
Not at all! Most of the excitement is for 2.5, so it's difficult to keep being excited for 1.5 when KH2FM and BBSFM are looming over the horizon.
Being a diehard fanboy of KH, I know I'll give this a 10. After all, I consider every game in the series a ten so this is just a remaster of games that I already consider tens. Aside from any potential glitches that I'd run into, this game is going to be one of favorirtes of all time
Wow, I was expecting at least a 9/10 but I understand a lot of the issues. Overall, I'm just glad that this wasn't biased. Thanks for giving us a good, honest review.
I feel like, for all the issues you had with it, 8 is a little generous for a final score. Nonetheless, a great review, thank you!
Ideally, Days was meant to be completely remade and playable in the remaster, but considering the time constraints and the realization that players would rather have a brand new title altogether instead of a remake, they opted for nearly 3 hours of remade scenes instead
Didn't know this. Bit of a shame. Would have loved to have every game playable on the Playstation 3. (Granted, that being if they make all of the games in 2.5 HD ReMIX playable, which I'm not counting on.) I feel like Days would have been an awesome console game. Would have loved to visit Neverland on the Playstation 3 haha.
Thanks for the honest review! Really refreshing to see that not all fansites give biased reviews. Could someone explain to me though why Birth By Sleep will be included in the 2.5 HD ReMIX? Considering the fact that BBS takes place even before KH1 timeline-wise?
I feel like, for all the issues you had with it, 8 is a little generous for a final score. Nonetheless, a great review, thank you!
My final score was a 7 though xD
In regards to Days which did receive an 8, I had to give much consideration to the different factors that affected development, and in the end, I had to acknowledge their efforts and results as being greater than that of my nitpicking. They achieved their goals as intended, even though they realized over the course of development that it didn't quite work out as well as they had expected.
Nomura actually said that they didn't think it'd end up being 3 hours, and that if they had realized, they should have just made a "movie" out of it to begin with, rather than disjointed scenes and transitions.
They tried, and I was really expecting a lot out of it (honestly because I don't like any iteration of Days but Amano's manga variation). I feel like if I did tear it apart, it would have been really unfair to completely undermined their efforts in making it.
My biggest gripe with the 358/2 Days "movie" is that it doesn't feature any actual fight scene, not even the most important boss scenes with Xion for example, the ending just doesn't make any sense without it.
Read through the review and in my experience, I did not get any of the glitches mentioned when I played the Japanese version, although I'm not sure how much difference there is between them and I'd wager there are little to none. Personally, I'd have given KHFM an 8/10, Re:CoM an 8.5/10 and Days an 8/10, with an overall score of 9/10. Like I said, I barely got any glitches so my experience wasn't hindered.
"The flaws give us something to look forward to in the future"
Not sure what the point of that is. It's not like they're going to do another remaster of these games. Any flaws there are now, we're stuck with em.
"The flaws give us something to look forward to in the future"
Not sure what the point of that is. It's not like they're going to do another remaster of these games. Any flaws there are now, we're stuck with em.
I felt that line of reasoning would have been very shallow to mention. "Oh, they've made all these mistakes, now I'm stuck with them forever. This is a horrible remaster." Isn't that such a negative note to end on?
Just like we've been seeing with each of the recent titles, Team Osaka has been learning with each installment and applying the knowledge they've obtained to new projects. I figured it was obvious that they would do the same, learning from 1.5 and utilizing it to benefit 2.5.
Hey Sign, I forgot to ask you these on my first comment so here here they are.
Did they give you an artbook too? Was there any secret message inside or after you cleared the games?
Ohh, ok. I thought you also meant for these games. Well, hopefully. It's just a shame they didn't iron out all the kinks. Ugh, I'm just bummed that they saddled us with non-lip synched cutscenes again, with Days, after how awkward it was in ReCoM. And also that the script is more like the Japanese version; usually when that happens, the dialogue is painfully bland. Those "liberties" add flavor, which I don't think you get otherwise because Japanese doesn't always translate well directly into English.
The glitches are in the NA/EU copies of the game. Not Japanese. As such, Sign's review only covers these versions of the game and no other. I didn't have any problems in my JPN copy, either, but like 20 min into my NA copy of 1.5, KHFM DI's music had gone out for a good 15 seconds and it happens every so often in other worlds from what I've heard from other early copy players.
Some even have full out no voices at all.
It is good your experience was not hindered, but you'll probably start hearing more about the audio issues soon from other people who get their game if they are not lucky.
Could someone explain to me though why Birth By Sleep will be included in the 2.5 HD ReMIX? Considering the fact that BBS takes place even before KH1 timeline-wise?
It was made post-KH2, so a lot of its story and references call back to the past games. It is best played after KH2 because of that, which is why it is 100% expected in the next collection.
Idk, I have a lot of agreement and disagreement with this review. I own quite a few remastered collections (God of War Saga, Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, Ico and Shadow of the Colossus, and Prince of Perisa). Of those, most are just the original games being rendered in 16:9 and 720p, which a few little improvements here and there, but for the most part all the original assets are the same. The only exceptions are Ico and Shadow of Colossus, which actually looked like they were remastered to look good in the PS3's higher resolution.
1.5, when I compare it to other remasters, really goes beyond expectations, maybe barring Re:CoM. The collection isn't made to just allow the original games to run on PS3 now, but to actually use the PS3's hardware for what the PS2 couldn't offer. Comparing it to other remasters that actual review sites scored very highly, I think it deserves a better score. Of course, you could argue that those remasters that were scored high should have just been scored lower, but I digress.
I'm really disappointed to hear about the audio glitches :( I really hope they may actually patch this one, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
As for the reviews overall, I am a little curious about your score for Re:CoM. I guess since you had the least to say about it overall, but gave it the lowest score I was curious: is this the score you would have given the original version of Re:CoM or did it get a lower score for not having many improvements and the issue with the music being jarringly different?
I'm really disappointed to hear about the audio glitches :( I really hope they may actually patch this one, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
As for the reviews overall, I am a little curious about your score for Re:CoM. I guess since you had the least to say about it overall, but gave it the lowest score I was curious: is this the score you would have given the original version of Re:CoM or did it get a lower score for not having many improvements and the issue with the music being jarringly different?
Since my review pertains only to the circumstances surrounding the remaster alone, I gave it a lower score because I had little to say. It's Re:CoM. I played and own both the GBA original and the PS2 remake and they're all great and I loved the experiences, but in the case of the remaster, it's just sort of... there. I appreciate the changes they've made but it might as well have been completely untouched.
The greater benefit of the game is for the EU and PAL regions where it was never released, but for anyone who did play the originals, it doesn't do much and I'm honestly rather indifferent to it. If I were to rate Re:CoM back when it released in 2008 it'd of course have received a higher score, but honestly at this day and age I just don't think it deserves more than a fairly low "neutral".
Thanks for the review.
As bummed as I am about a the little glitches an' things you mentioned it still looks like a good buy.
One thing I don't understand about the 358/2 Days cutscenes is why didn't they just do speech bubble cutscenes instead of those journal entries and why did they cut those scenes of Saix and Xemnas?
Ok, so, just to double check, does this mean Marluxia and Larxene and co. don't have a single voiced cutscene in Days?
Thanks for the review.
As bummed as I am about a the little glitches an' things you mentioned it still looks like a good buy.
One thing I don't understand about the 358/2 Days cutscenes is why didn't they just do speech bubble cutscenes instead of those journal entries and why did they cut those scenes of Saix and Xemnas?
Time constraints I suppose. No one really understands. It's very odd that the focus became even more on Roxas, Axel and Xion that they even pushed these strong characters with such important ties to the story out of the way. I'm sure we could have sacrificed a few ice cream scenes for them.
[FONT=Arial]Great review, though might I add: "The worst offender of this in my opinion would be the Opposite Armor that zooms around the Second District of Twilight Town." Shouldn't that be Traverse Town? Just saying :3 [/FONT]
I'm a bit weary of the release now thanks to these discovered audio issues. I don't want to seem nitpicky but I don't want to purchase something that may hinder may enjoyment, especially since it seems these issues seem rather distracting. Who knows, I still may buy it but some part of me is reconsidering because I don't want to purchase a game with these types of defects.
I'm a bit weary of the release now thanks to these discovered audio issues. I don't want to seem nitpicky but I don't want to purchase something that may hinder may enjoyment, especially since it seems these issues seem rather distracting. Who knows, I still may buy it but some part of me is reconsidering because I don't want to purchase a game with these types of defects.
Not to mention that they seem rather frequent. How many complaints have we got now? I seriously hope they fix it.
Most reviews of this compilation that have been published so far give it about 7/10, just like this one. It's a shame about the glitches and the clipping issues, but overall I think it would be fair to say that the versions of these three titles included in this package are the best ones released so far (of course, I might be a bit biased but I thought 358/2 Days was rubbish as a game, offering pretty much nothing new).
Since my review pertains only to the circumstances surrounding the remaster alone, I gave it a lower score because I had little to say. It's Re:CoM. I played and own both the GBA original and the PS2 remake and they're all great and I loved the experiences, but in the case of the remaster, it's just sort of... there. I appreciate the changes they've made but it might as well have been completely untouched.
The greater benefit of the game is for the EU and PAL regions where it was never released, but for anyone who did play the originals, it doesn't do much and I'm honestly rather indifferent to it. If I were to rate Re:CoM back when it released in 2008 it'd of course have received a higher score, but honestly at this day and age I just don't think it deserves more than a fairly low "neutral".
Ah okay, I understand your thought process :) I agree that it's not as exciting as the other two inclusions to those of us in North America. It's definitely the one I will be playing last out of the three.
[FONT=Arial]Great review, though might I add: "The worst offender of this in my opinion would be the Opposite Armor that zooms around the Second District of Twilight Town." Shouldn't that be Traverse Town? Just saying :3 [/FONT]
OH MY GOD
I am so sorry about that xD
I think that's a general misconception that as fansites, we're obligated to give the games more praise than negativity. (Honestly my score was originally a bit lower than it is now, but I was sabotaged by adorable staff).
It's a great game, but the issues are present and do need to be acknowledged.
I'm glad you guys did this. Honestly, I was expecting more praise than anything (no offense). Very happy to be proven wrong!
With that said, can't wait to get my copy and play Re:CoM for the first time. Also curious to see how Days finally turned out.
Danget, Osaka!
Haha, jk, definitely looking forward to this, I've been kinda busy so I have to pick it up tomorrow, though. Let's hope this experience helps them with 2.5.
Personally, KHFM gets a 3/10 just for making the camera even more frustrating xD
I seriously had no problem with any camera in the series.
UNTIL NOW
KHFM's camera in 1.5 is so crazy xD
^I'm not complaining????? Yet?????? Lol
Oh and long neck Goofy is looooooong!
So far I only don't like the camera just for never staying still when I move it to get another perspective.
Otherwise, I expect a pretty great remaster.
10/10 for me~ Enjoying every second of it right now! XD
Camera is frustrating, yes, but not so much that I'd rate it lower (NOTHING could lower it in my eyes! >:D) and the thing I dislike is the voice glitch problem. No me gusta T_T
Having a blast with its beauty, and I love the way Destiny Islands sounds now, especially X3
So far I only don't like the camera just for never staying still when I move it to get another perspective.
Do you have it set to "auto"? You can set it to "manual" and it will keep the camera from shifting like that.
Do you have it set to "auto"? You can set it to "manual" and it will keep the camera from shifting like that.
I had mine on manual and then switched to see what auto was like. It might be a glitch for me, but I couldn't tell a difference, and the camera didn't follow me -~-
I had mine on manual and then switched to see what auto was like. It might be a glitch for me, but I couldn't tell a difference, and the camera didn't follow me -~-
It follows you when you turn corners without touching the camera. Manual will make the camera stay stationary when turning. Did you try going around any corners of buildings or obstructions?
It follows you when you turn corners without touching the camera. Manual will make the camera stay stationary when turning. Did you try going around any corners of buildings or obstructions?
Yup. Nuthin. I didn't change it back to manual yet, tho. So maybe when I turn it on later it will be corrected. Wishful thinking~ :3
Shame to hear about the bugs, and glitches. Suppose it isn't entirely unexpected given the amount of work they had to do for this, which goes beyond what we usually get in remasters. Hope these issues are resolved by the time I finally buy this.
Quick question: Are you able to change the camera control to the L2/R2 buttons like it was in the original, are you only able to use the analog stick?
On another note, I'm saddened by how the precious screen time with Larxene (and some of the other members) in Days got reduced to a journal entry with a background image. Ah, well, suppose it couldn't be helped with the time constraints.
Shame to hear about the bugs, and glitches. Suppose it isn't entirely unexpected given the amount of work they had to do for this, which goes beyond what we usually get in remasters. Hope these issues are resolved by the time I finally buy this.
Yeah :c I mean, as a remaster, it's definitely up there with the best of them, but when you consider what they changed, how they went about it, what the circumstances are, and then the final result, it does falter quite a bit. I'm sure players will enjoy it regardless, but this isn't a game that should receive a perfect score.
2.5 though, if they take everything they've learned here, will definitely be deserving of the 10/10, of this I have no doubts.
| Quick question: Are you able to change the camera control to the L2/R2 buttons like it was in the original, are you only able to use the analog stick? |
Analog only I'm afraid.
So, uhh, guys, it's probably too early for me to say I'm in the clear, but I've been fooling around the DI for just under an hour, just running around fighting the FF trio and Riku, and I haven't had any audio or voice glitches, even when entering another area like the Seaside Shack.
So, uhh, guys, it's probably too early for me to say I'm in the clear, but I've been fooling around the DI for just under an hour, just running around fighting the FF trio and Riku, and I haven't had any audio or voice glitches, even when entering another area like the Seaside Shack.
Trust me, neither did I. My audio cut out 3 times for only several seconds, but that didn't happen until I got on the huge elevator in Hollow Bastion.
Trust me, neither did I. My audio cut out 3 times for only several seconds, but that didn't happen until I got on the huge elevator in Hollow Bastion.
Huh, for some reason I thought you were one of the people who had reported having a problem >.<
Wait, Hollow Bastion? ...When did you get the game? :confused:
Huh, for some reason I thought you were one of the people who had reported having a problem >.<
Wait, Hollow Bastion? ...When did you get the game? :confused:
I got the review copy this time around, so I received the game about 2 weeks before release. Couldn't say a single thing about it until embargo lifted this morning.
Think it's interesting KHI is giving a lower review than sites like IGN. You can't say we are biased as a fan site at least. :)
Great review, have to agree with the camera of kh1. u_u
Having played this in Japanese over the past several months, I can agree with pretty much everything this review brought up. That said, I still enjoyed the game through and throughout. Especially with it having been my first experience with the original Final Mix, and I knew little what to expect, having only played Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix and Birth by Sleep: Final Mix before it. I was surprised to find how...different but familiar it was, yes it is the same game, but it felt new and was filled with flaws—some minor, others glaring—that gave off the impression that it was in fact new.
However, I do have to wonder why many of these issues are still present? As we already know that the game was rebuilt from the ground up. So why couldn't they have taken the extra time to iron out those age-old kinks and fan complaints to make this product the best it could be? After all, they had more than enough opportunity to do so with having to remake the game entirely. In the end, though, my only hope is that the eventual II.5 will address most of the technical issues present in the series and then some. I don't want perfection, but I do want polish.
Wow! That review came out pretty fast. Thanks for the very honest insight. It was a nice read before I started playing the actual game.
Edit:
I got the review copy this time around, so I received the game about 2 weeks before release. Couldn't say a single thing about it until embargo lifted this morning.
Ooh. That explains the well thought out review being published during the early hours of the actual release date.
Think it's interesting KHI is giving a lower review than sites like IGN. You can't say we are biased as a fan site at least. :)
Well, who are you going to trust? The actual fans? Or IGN? Atleast people here know what they're talking about.
Sign, just out of curiosity, are you bigger fan of Kingdom Hearts II? If that's the case would the rating you gave it had anything to do with that? It's very easy to pin point the issues of the later games but the original almost always goes unscathed, so the review is rather suprising. Not trying to degenerate the the first Kingdom Hearts but it becomes quite apparent, especially on these forums. Good review, nevertheless and hope that Kingdom Hearts 2.5 HD Remix will be an improvement over the first, since all we know those games are vastly superior to the original, Re: COM, and Days.
:tongue:
With that said, I hope the audio issues are limited to certain copies.....in a certain region.....in a certain states.....because I'm already dreading buy a copy with the defects. I really don't want anything to kill my joy for the game, so, hopefully, I'll wait for my B-day.
Sign, just out of curiosity, are you bigger fan of Kingdom Hearts II? If that's the case would the rating you gave it had anything to do with that? It's very easy to pin point the issues of the later games but the original almost always goes unscathed, so the review is rather suprising. Not trying to degenerate the the first Kingdom Hearts but it becomes quite apparent, especially on these forums. Good review, nevertheless and hope that Kingdom Hearts 2.5 HD Remix will be an improvement over the first, since all we know those games are vastly superior to the original, Re: COM, and Days.
Well, I know Sign is looking forward to 2.5 because of Birth by Sleep FM and KHII FM (aren't we all).
The flaws in this game though seem to be something that us staff see. Everyone is saying everything is beautiful and amazing and we're just here like "the camera stinks" xD
I actually think Sign gave a good rating. The numbers she had before were lower.
@Cataclysm: I've never had a buggy game, before. When I buy a game, I expect it to run as perfectly as it SHOULD, so the fact that some people having sound trouble and others not is too coincedental. I've had that slight music/voice hiccup several times now, never lasting longer than I can blink. In any other game's case, I'd simply blame it on the game and take it back. But the fact that it could be "patched" says that it would do me no good in returning it cuz MOST of them have a problem and that the network can fix it. I'm very irked that something like that should even happen at all, but I guess I'll hafta deal with it. I would like them to fix it soon, tho; before too many folks buy the game and have the same problems.
Do you have it set to "auto"? You can set it to "manual" and it will keep the camera from shifting like that.
Yeah, I put it to manual at the startup options. Turns out that tutorial is an oddity for the camera controls(being an open space yet the camera acting like that). It was fixed in Destiny Islands.
Well, who are you going to trust? The actual fans? Or IGN? Atleast people here know what they're talking about.
And IGN has high scores for everything. Admittedly not entirely without merit but still.
Actual fans have a weird thing with being seen as more praising but actually being more critical
Sign, just out of curiosity, are you bigger fan of Kingdom Hearts II? If that's the case would the rating you gave it had anything to do with that? It's very easy to pin point the issues of the later games but the original almost always goes unscathed, so the review is rather suprising.
My opinion about KH1 and 2 are fairly the same I think xD I have no particular strong ties with either (unlike BBS but I think everyone knows I'm biased as hell when it comes to that, haha) so I tend to be more critical.
| Not trying to degenerate the the first Kingdom Hearts but it becomes quite apparent, especially on these forums. Good review, nevertheless and hope that Kingdom Hearts 2.5 HD Remix will be an improvement over the first, since all we know those games are vastly superior to the original, Re: COM, and Days. :tongue: |
Much agreed!
| With that said, I hope the audio issues are limited to certain copies.....in a certain region.....in a certain states.....because I'm already dreading buy a copy with the defects. I really don't want anything to kill my joy for the game, so, hopefully, I'll wait for my B-day. |
It seems to have become something of a competition here to see who will be able to get through the entire game without audio problems. Who knows? Maybe you will be the winner!
Well, I know Sign is looking forward to 2.5 because of Birth by Sleep FM and KHII FM (aren't we all).
Chaser knows me so well 8D
| The flaws in this game though seem to be something that us staff see. Everyone is saying everything is beautiful and amazing and we're just here like "the camera stinks" xD |
Worst camera in the series forever xD
| I actually think Sign gave a good rating. The numbers she had before were lower. |
And even if I stayed with those scores, I regret nothing!
1.5 is great, but there are really obvious issues that we feel like people are overlooking. Yeah it's pretty and it's HD, but then what?
It's a shame that after all these years, the camera for KH1 is still a little wonky. I haven't yet experienced any glitches so far, but unless they aren't game-breaking (like that one in Skyward Sword...) I could care less. Despite the issues, it's a thrill to finally play the Final Mix, and the remastered music is the best addition imo.
Sign: Hey you stole the whole playing the game as a competition from my post lol.
its all good though ^^
and luckily I'll have this afternoon and all of tomorrow to keep playing and hope no audio messes up still!
Sign: Hey you stole the whole playing the game as a competition from my post lol.
its all good though ^^
and luckily I'll have this afternoon and all of tomorrow to keep playing and hope no audio messes up still!
lol sorry xD
good luck!
You too! And we shod keep of list of players who finished with no audio hiccups, lol
Got my copy yesterday! Hope I don't experience any issues! :c or I hope they patch the game before I play it.
Got my copy yesterday! Hope I don't experience any issues! :c or I hope they patch the game before I play it.
If you do have issues, don't let it stop you! So far nothing has been reported that's been game-breaking yet and are just repeat annoyances. We're still safe~
Welcome to KHI, by the way! Happy posting!
Well, who are you going to trust? The actual fans? Or IGN? Atleast people here know what they're talking about.
Right, I just feel like whenever a KH game is reviewed highly by KHI, the general thought is "oh, well of course THEY'D rate it high".
| 1.5 is great, but there are really obvious issues that we feel like people are overlooking. Yeah it's pretty and it's HD, but then what? |
Great write up Sign! Just to play contrarian here, I think the "now what" is the immediate value. KH1FM has never been released before. ReCoM has never been released in Europe. And nobody wants to have to play Days again so the all new HD cutscenes are a god send. All of that wrapped in a $40 package is an excellent value for gamers and allows someone to play through the entire series on a single platform. For me, that's the "now what".
I guess my question would be, if KH1, Re:CoM, and Days were rated individually (when they came out), higher than what we have here, why would all three in one package at a lower cost lead to a lower score?
Unless of course, those three games alone would average out to a 7 anyway.
I'M SPAMMING THIS EVERYWHERE, OKAY!
Hey guys! If you have your copy of 1.5, you can get an award on the forums for it! Just take a picture of the game + a slip of paper with your username and the date and post it in the Game Award request thread!
http://forums.khinsider.com/foyer/168988-game-award-request-thread.html
Please continue your review discussion~
@Master Spockanort: But my device won't let me post pictures, and I have no other...It's why I don't have any game trophies even though I own a few T_T
@Master Spockanort: But my device won't let me post pictures, and I have no other...It's why I don't have any game trophies even though I own a few T_T
No camera on a computer or relative/friend with a device that can take photos?
If you connect your PSN account to PSNProfiles, you can screenshot the page where it shows your trophies and use that as proof. I did that for TR because I bought it from PSN rather than a physical copy.
Can't think of any solution for the 3DS...
No to the first.
I have no clue how to do the second XD
And I'm lost on the third, too T~T
Maybe I can find a way with my 3DS pictures somehow...But I've got no computer around to put it in. *sigh* That won't help, then.
I have no clue how to do the second XD
Just go to PSNProfiles, follow the instructions for connecting your account, and then just take a screenshot with the print screen button on your keyboard making sure you can see your username and the games you want to get an award for.
| Maybe I can find a way with my 3DS pictures somehow...But I've got no computer around to put it in. *sigh* That won't help, then. |
I was going to suggest making a DE briefly with your username and taking a screenshot when you pet it. Then after use the 3DS internet browser, go to the Nintendo Image Share website, and upload it to your FB/Tumblr/Twitter and then just use that as proof. The name won't appear, though, so that plan was impossible. xD
The main site receives major props for not giving it an amazing score just because it's a kingdom hearts site. I liked the fair criticisms. Was honestly shocked by the numerical score but I kind of agree.
Just started playing it. Gosh. That camera is giving me a headache! You gently touch the analogue stick and swooooooosh... it's way over-sensitive.
Just started playing it. Gosh. That camera is giving me a headache! You gently touch the analogue stick and swooooooosh... it's way over-sensitive.
Yeah the camera is horrible, something I've been saying since May in my review xD
If only they had a bit more time, they might have been able to fix it (hopefully... I wish...)
Got my copy today, liking Final Mix! So far, I've had a couple of complaints in terms of sound and graphics, but honestly, I think the camera's fine. At least, I don't have problems with it, other than it being too sensitive. But I can get around that.
Now, graphical, this game looks amazing. Truly amazing. The only downside is f.e. in Traverse Town where the floor switches constantly between sharp textures and not-so sharp textures (this actually gave me a headache). Textures seems to change like this quite often, which is a pity, 'cause the actual graphics look amazing.
Soundwise, I've experienced a lot of music kind of glitching very shortly at times. The music itself is amazing, but stuff like this kicks you out of the experience.
What I've enjoyed most so far, are the Final Mix additions (the new abilities and such). These really make the gameplay feel somewhat fresh to me (as in, different from my previous thousand playthroughs of the original) and are just diddlying beautiful to behold (Stun Impact, that "Drive" finisher). Digging it!
All in all, I agree with the 7/10 given. Can't talk about the other two games just yet, 'cause I'm planning on doing everything in chronological order of the story (as much as possible). So when Sora loses his heart, I'm gonna start watching Days. Should be interesting.
I'm wondering if they'll ever release a patch to solve these problems, even if they're somewhat minor.
One thing I will say, though. For people who think they've got deceived because Days isn't playable (I've seen a thread about it). First of all, you should've been aware of that already by reading the announcements and such, but anyways. For those of you who don't seem to have read these announcements (but apparently are registered here and complain about being "deceived"): on the back of my copy, it clearly says "HD remastered cinematics" on Days. Read.
My Re:Chain of Memories trophy set has not been installed yet, but the ones for Final Mix and Days have been (yet I've only touched Final Mix). How odd.
Regarding the textures, I agree that it feels a bit odd to see obvious low-res ones with updated high-res stuff. A good example would be the doorknob in Wonderland. The actual knob is clear as day but the door itself looks blurry and jaggy. But I think the games looks amazing in general. Just played Tales of Graces f, a HD port of a Wii game. Kingdom Hearts in HD looks about as good (but with better visual design).
The only glitch I've encountered so far has to do with the music, but unlike what others have experienced it doesn't stop or anything but rather every time a new tune loads up there will be a millisecond glitch in the sound. After that it plays just fine.
Speaking of which, the new soundtrack is amazing. I'm not just saying this because I'm such a Shimomura fanboy, but they did an amazing job making an old plain MIDI soundtrack come to life with the new recordings. Many tracks benefit greatly from actually being orchestral. The battle themes especially.
In terms of gameplay, it shows its age. Besides the wonky camera, the platforming is almost inexcusably bad! Jumping and landing where you want to is really difficult at times. Recent games don't have this problem, or at least it's far from as bad as it is in Final Mix.
Overall, I think 7.5 would be a fair score.
My Re:Chain of Memories trophy set has not been installed yet, but the ones for Final Mix and Days have been (yet I've only touched Final Mix). How odd.
Regarding the textures, I agree that it feels a bit odd to see obvious low-res ones with updated high-res stuff. A good example would be the doorknob in Wonderland. The actual knob is clear as day but the door itself looks blurry and jaggy.
The Re:CoM trophies will probably install when you start that game (my guess).
But about the textures, not talking about the mix between low-res and high-res textures. My issue is that f.e. the floor/ground/street in Traverse Town constantly changes between low res textures and really sharp, high resolution textures in the same area. So when I'm walking, these textures would change constantly, which is incredibly tiring (even painful) for the eyes, which I'm assuming can be quite bad for people with epilepsy.
I just finished Final Mix, and I loved it! It felt like I was playing Kingdom Hearts for the first time. 9/10
I had no audio problems and did not notice any glitches.
Setup
Slim PS31080p HDMI
5.1 optical audio
The camera still feels too close, but had better control now that it uses the right stick. It does stop when it hits a wall, which made lining up a couple jumps a little harder.
The graphics were great and the lighting in dark places like Halloween Town was improved. I just wish thy updated things like the button icons(blurry), and some keyblades had jagged edges close up.
It was a great update to a great game. I can't wait for 2.5 and 3.
Eurogamer gave it 6/10. Ouch. Although I do agree with the written review.
Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 Remix review • Reviews • PlayStation 3 • Eurogamer.net
Great review. I am highly enjoying the remaster at the moment. It was great to get info about additional cards for RE:CoM. People really should play days. It's a good DS game and a good KH game as well. I appreciate the inclusion of the updated cutscenes, but I've gotta say that if you want the "best" experience, story-wise at least, then make sure to pick up the DS game.
Very detailed and enjoyable review. Thumbs up from Denmark.
Eurogamer gave it 6/10. Ouch. Although I do agree with the written review.
Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 Remix review • Reviews • PlayStation 3 • Eurogamer.net
I don't agree with his review but nevertheless, it's refreshing to see there are fans who prefer KHII and BBS. BBS, KHII > KH. In fact, I'm such a big fan of THOSE games, I will buy the JPN release when it comes out, hopefully in 2014.
I would've given it in a 7-7.5, though....Or even an 8.
I don't think this collection is a 6. Definitely a 7-8, which is why I agree with Sign's review the most.
The work put into the collection is worth more than 6/10, but the games themselves just don't hold up very well in terms of gameplay. Bad camera, bad platforming and dodgy hit boxes. It's hard not to get frustrated when playing these games.
There's nothing wrong with a game being hard. But it should be hard in relation to skill level and not just dumb luck. I want to die because I'm not good enough, not because the camera randomly decided to flip over and obstruct my view causing me to become an open target in an intense boss battle. That's just bad game design.
It was more acceptable back then because the standard was much lower in general. But compared to games released today, more specifically newer games in the Kingdom Hearts series, the first game (and probably RCOM as well, haven't gotten that far yet) just doesn't play as well. The graphics and visual design as well as the music is still top notch, and the story also holds up very well. But this is probably as good as it's gonna get until we get a proper remake sometime in the future.
Sometimes you just have to kill your darlings, or at least give them a well-deserved beating. Kingdom Hearts is not a bad game, but it's got too many gameplay-related flaws to get a higher score than 7,5.
Just finished Atlantica, hell, the last Ursala fight is so broken as hell (Proud mode). I have to let my teammates do all the work and just dodge w/e she throws at me or she destroys me lol
One thing that I noticed while playing Remix, is that a lot of your attacks don't connect with the enemy. It's really hard to see if your in attacking distance or not. I think this is one of the factors why Kingdom Hearts 1 was more difficult than other games, the gameplay not being finetuned.
Just finished Atlantica, hell, the last Ursala fight is so broken as hell (Proud mode). I have to let my teammates do all the work and just dodge w/e she throws at me or she destroys me lol
I'm not altogether sure whether I was attacking the pot with magic that matched the color, or was 'effective' against the color.
It seemed like I was mixing between the two methods a lot, so I could not really gather what I was really doing.
I also beat Neverland with no problems, which is a big change from last time since I remember the boss in the Cabin giving me a lot of grief when I first played. And that was on an easier difficulty. I was surprised I managed to clear the level without dying on Proud once.
Hollow Bastions coming up next, though. There's going to be grief there. I know it.
Eurogamer gave it 6/10. Ouch. Although I do agree with the written review.
Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 Remix review • Reviews • PlayStation 3 • Eurogamer.net
I don't understand why a person who has never played the original games would be the person who reviews the remaster.
I'm not altogether sure whether I was attacking the pot with magic that matched the color, or was 'effective' against the color.
It seemed like I was mixing between the two methods a lot, so I could not really gather what I was really doing.
Nah, I'm talking about the boss fight against big Ursala. During the first fight, you basically just have to spam magic on the pot and it'll get the job done.
Nah, I'm talking about the boss fight against big Ursala. During the first fight, you basically just have to spam magic on the pot and it'll get the job done.
Oh, right.
For Big Ursala, it was just a huge slash, slash, heal, heal for me. My team members have a habit of dying within seconds.
For Ursula, I remember relying heavily on Aero magic. It worked really well this time, too :3
Not without fatalities, of course T_T
I don't understand why a person who has never played the original games would be the person who reviews the remaster.
To be fair, I feel like this game was made so newer generations/audiences can judge the series, gauging reactions while hopefully drawing in more players for the inevitable conclusion. It's obviously going to be a huge nostalgia trip for us who love the original, but I do much prefer KHI's more rounded perspective on the matter, because they have the experience to critic the classic held up to the remaster. (I also appreciate that this review wasn't sugar-coated.) It is odd though how the reviewer over at Euro Gamer could genuinely enjoy KH2 & BBS, yet did not backtrack to play the original.
To be fair, I feel like this game was made so newer generations/audiences can judge the series, gauging reactions while hopefully drawing in more players for the inevitable conclusion. It's obviously going to be a huge nostalgia trip for us who love the original, but I do much prefer KHI's more rounded perspective on the matter, because they have the experience to critic the classic held up to the remaster. (I also appreciate that this review wasn't sugar-coated.) It is odd though how the reviewer over at Euro Gamer could genuinely enjoy KH2 & BBS, yet did not backtrack to play the original.
Well, my point was mainly that since this is a remaster, only people who've played the original will know what's updated. This guy who did this review for Euro Game doesn't know about the original visuals and music and controls, so he can't appropriately review the updated version in regards to how it stacks up to the original. He's reviewing a remaster like it's a new game. A fetch quest in Wonderland shouldn't affect the score of a remaster. Sound glitches, Days being boring for the casual fan, scary zoomed in HD fish faces, those should affect the score of a remaster.
Small question, in the original KH I remember beating giant Ursula by just swimming behind her and whacking the back of her head. She couldn't do a thing about it. Is it like that in the ReMIX, too? It will be a while before I get the game but I thought I'd ask now.
Small question, in the original KH I remember beating giant Ursula by just swimming behind her and whacking the back of her head. She couldn't do a thing about it. Is it like that in the ReMIX, too? It will be a while before I get the game but I thought I'd ask now.
Yes you can still do so, I did so in order to beat her myself. ^ ^
Could someone check something for me please?
I'm right about to go to End of the World (Proud mode), so before heading off, I decided to level grind a bit and hunt for some trinities I missed. I went to Halloween Town (Manor Ruins) and found a red trinity. Problem is, I can't activate it. It's like the game doesn't know that there's a trinity there.
I'm not sure, but I believe this trinity wasn't in the original version (I think they switched a red trinity, 'cause I remember one being in the manor, which was gone now).
Does anyone have this problem as well? You need to find all trinities to get all the trophies so, this is a problem.. Thanks beforehand!
EDIT: exited the area and re-entered, seems to work now. Weird.
EDIT 2: got killed by, what I think is, a new Final Mix Heartless. Re-entered the area and the trinity doesn't work again.. My best guess is that the thing only works when that new Heartless is around in the area... very weird.
EDIT 3: seems like this new Heartless (which is a robot, btw) is pretty rare as well. Re-entered Manor Ruins several times now, defeated all the enemies and no sign of the Heartless, and no working Trinity.
EDIT 4: destroying all the enemies in the area + the Bridge area before didn't do anything. Gonna exit the world and go back to Manor Ruins.
EDIT 5: found the rare enemy again, and the trinity worked. Didn't get killed this time (phew). So, here's the deal:
The
red trinity
in Manor Ruins (Halloween Town, where Oogie Boogie's HQ was) ONLY works when the Heartless called "Chimera" is in the area. This Heartless looks robotic and will summon Gargoyles during the battle. This trinity is important for trophies. If not activated, you won't be able to collect both the trinities (obviously) and the treasure chests ('cause you get a treasure chest when activating the trinity). This in return is important for collecting all the trophies.EDIT 6:
Having this problem as well it's the last trinity point I need too, I have killed the Chimera and the trinity is on the side of the Arch but is not activating when I go near it, anyone else having this problem or know how to fix it?
Nvm... Good luck to you all.
@king_mickey rule: I think I've heard about the Chimaera...But the whole trinity problem is new to me. I'll see about it when I finally get there. Thanks for the heads-up, tho! Red trinity is my fave~
[SPOILER=Chimaera]
Easiest way to beat it? Parry the light orbs back at it. It will recover and get that tiny health bar again, but the orbs are also one of its main attacks, so parrying it helps to avoid dying ^_^[/SPOILER]
I totally agree because i think they just edited a screen adjustments.
I just NEED to know, in the scenes where the mouths of characters aren't as clearly defined and just seem to "open/close" unlike in the higher quality cutscenes, is that fixed? I hope you all know what I mean.
I just NEED to know, in the scenes where the mouths of characters aren't as clearly defined and just seem to "open/close" unlike in the higher quality cutscenes, is that fixed? I hope you all know what I mean.
The fish face models? Nah, they're still in there. And more often than I remember.
The fish face models? Nah, they're still in there. And more often than I remember.
NOOOO! I hope they get rid of those for KH2.5! That's the ONLY thing that I can't stand in KH.
^ I was never really bothered by them tbh.
^ I was never really bothered by them tbh.
Same here... but it would be nice to see more facial structure.
I feel like SE actually did almost everything possible right with this collection. They tweaked the gameplay to make it better, they added a cutscene skipper that works anytime, no major technical issues, and most importantly: no voice redubbing.
My only peeves that I had was the choppy sound occasionally in Traverse Town (much less in the rest of the game) and the lack of trophy stacking. I really, really want them to add trophy stacking in KH2.5, because you would have to play through BBSFM 12 times for the platinum if they don't have it.
I realize that this review is more than a month late haha, but I just realized that I didn't post in this thread D:
So... It's my first time on the 'outside thread' (since I'm usually only at the X[Chi] section). I don't know if I should be asking this here or if someone already asked,but...
Is there anything Secret-Movie related when I finish the game on Hard Mode? I mean, some movie they haven't shown yet?
Because I think it's a huuuge pain to play on Hard when I can play on Normal >_>
So... It's my first time on the 'outside thread' (since I'm usually only at the X[Chi] section). I don't know if I should be asking this here or if someone already asked,but...
Is there anything Secret-Movie related when I finish the game on Hard Mode? I mean, some movie they haven't shown yet?
Because I think it's a huuuge pain to play on Hard when I can play on Normal >_>
Yes, there is. You will unlock the FM exclusive "Another Side, Another Story [deep dive]". All you have to do is seal all Keyholes & beat the Hades Cup.
Yes, there is. You will unlock the FM exclusive "Another Side, Another Story [deep dive]". All you have to do is seal all Keyholes & beat the Hades Cup.
I see D: Thanks, Master!
... But do I really have to beat the Hades Cup even on Hard? I kind of have a trauma with that Cup... >_>
But thanks anyway D: I'll... do my best.
I see D: Thanks, Master!
... But do I really have to beat the Hades Cup even on Hard? I kind of have a trauma with that Cup... >_>
But thanks anyway D: I'll... do my best.
Take it slow! It'll only do you good having to repeat it because it gives you a ton of EXP. By level 55, you can speed through the entire thing without any troubles except the bosses.
Good luck! I thought it was horrible too, but once you level up it's all easy~
Take it slow! It'll only do you good having to repeat it because it gives you a ton of EXP. By level 55, you can speed through the entire thing without any troubles except the bosses.
Good luck! I thought it was horrible too, but once you level up it's all easy~
I-it gives EXP? QuQ I didn't remember that, thanks!
I'll... do my best >n<
Thankfully the tournaments have EXP, unlike in KH2. (I can't remember if Mirage Arena gives you EXP or not...) After you go through the Hades Cup, it really feels like you've got a Mario mushroom power boost, with all the spell levels increased and EXP you gain.
Mirage Arena does give out EXP. Some of us on staff are hoping they are giving us the option to scale the battles so the higher we go with levels, the tougher the enemies and therefore the higher pay out of experience is given, but I feel like this is just a dream.
Could someone check something for me please?
So, here's the deal:
The
red trinity
in Manor Ruins (Halloween Town, where Oogie Boogie's HQ was) ONLY works when the Heartless called "Chimera" is in the area. This Heartless looks robotic and will summon Gargoyles during the battle. This trinity is important for trophies. If not activated, you won't be able to collect both the trinities (obviously) and the treasure chests ('cause you get a treasure chest when activating the trinity). This in return is important for collecting all the trophies.EDIT 6:
Nvm... Good luck to you all.
Since this post is mostly about that red trinity there, I'll just explain that, even though I think you seem to know what's going on?
There are actually two trinities in the Manor Ruins (one is a Trinity Ladder, or either it was another red one, I honestly don't remember right now). One grants you access to a treasure chest, and one is just an indicator. The red trinity to the right of the fence is inaccessible (or at least it should be, as I had already completed all the trinities and gotten the trophy before I noticed the extra one).
If that red trinity is there when you enter that area, that means the robot heartless will not spawn, if it is not there then you should consider yourself lucky because you will have the chance to fight it and pick up at least one if not two Blazing Stones (rare synthesis item, you need a total of 7 if you plan on synthesizing everything for the trophy).
I wasn't aware that the indicator trinity was supposed to be there for you to grab that other trinity there though, I may have forgotten about it since I had done that beforehand. Which would make it (Red Trinity indicator shows up so you can grab the other trinity, but you can't fight the Chimera, as it won't spawn.)
Oh yeah, here's a neat trick for you to go by, when you have Encounter Plus equipped, all it takes is two rooms to reset the counter for a rare heartless to spawn, it's not always two times though. At minimum it will be 5 for the rarest heartless such as the Pink
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Since this post is mostly about that red trinity there, I'll just explain that, even though I think you seem to know what's going on?
There are actually two trinities in the Manor Ruins (one is a Trinity Ladder, or either it was another red one, I honestly don't remember right now). One grants you access to a treasure chest, and one is just an indicator. The red trinity to the right of the fence is inaccessible (or at least it should be, as I had already completed all the trinities and gotten the trophy before I noticed the extra one).
If that red trinity is there when you enter that area, that means the robot heartless will not spawn, if it is not there then you should consider yourself lucky because you will have the chance to fight it and pick up at least one if not two Blazing Stones (rare synthesis item, you need a total of 7 if you plan on synthesizing everything for the trophy).
I wasn't aware that the indicator trinity was supposed to be there for you to grab that other trinity there though, I may have forgotten about it since I had done that beforehand. Which would make it (Red Trinity indicator shows up so you can grab the other trinity, but you can't fight the Chimera, as it won't spawn.)
Oh yeah, here's a neat trick for you to go by, when you have Encounter Plus equipped, all it takes is two rooms to reset the counter for a rare heartless to spawn, it's not always two times though. At minimum it will be 5 for the rarest heartless such as the Pink
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Please keep in mind most discussion in this thread is nearly a year old so besides the handful of new posts made, you should expect that most people had their problems solved way back when.
Please keep in mind most discussion in this thread is nearly a year old so besides the handful of new posts made, you should expect that most people had their problems solved way back when.
That's my fault for not checking the date the posts were made.
Heartkeeper
September 10, 2013 @ 03:42 pmOffline