(SPOILERS) Union X: Something received
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- Published on November 14, 2019 @ 07:26 am
- Written by Sign
5 story quests were added (No. 911~915.) In addition, Bad Guy Breaker can now be upgraded to +50, the same as the other Keyblades.
Watch the scenes with English subtitles with translations by goldpanner!
About 4 years ago--
(Brain and Ava are on the cliffs overlooking Daybreak Town. Brain is laying on the grass with the rulebook on his chest, listening to Ava speak.)
Brain: Union leader? Me? You must be joking.
Ava: I’m serious.
Brain: I'm not the leader type and you know it.
What made you decide to appoint me?
Ava: I didn't. My Master did.
(He sits up, in shock.)
Brain: Your Master? THE Master of Masters?
Ava: That's right. So, do your best.
(Brain leafs through the rulebook.)
Brain: Do my best? You say that like it's gonna be easy. This seems like it’ll be a real pain, and who are these other four?
Ava: I can’t tell you just yet.
Brain: Is that so?
The five of us are to convene after the war, so you want to avoid any unexpected turn of events that would result in us coming in contact with one another ahead of time.
Sounds pretty shady if you ask me. It’s like this is some sort of script.
Ava: Oh Brain, you've always been a bright one.
Brain: Uh, so are you saying I'm right? Because if I am, then that can't be good.
(Ava sits down beside him.)
Ava: Suppose the fate of this world were set in stone. What would you think?
Brain: That it's awful.
Ava: Why?
Brain: A future that goes exactly as planned? That's boring.
Ava: But what if it’s not about things going as planned, but knowing what events are going to happen?
Brain: The Book of Prophecies, you mean?
Ava: That’s right. If something is written in the Book of Prophecies, that doesn’t mean you wouldn’t be able to change it.
Brain: I guess so…
Wait.
(He’s deep in thought.)
Brain: But if that’s the case, then shouldn’t the changes have been written in the Book of Prophecies to begin with?
No… that'd be contradictory…
Hmm, could it be that the book gets rewritten whenever something changes?
(Ava laughs.)
Ava: I don't know what will happen if something does change. I think the fact that we don't know proves there's a future that’s not planned for, don't you?
Brain: Does it really prove that?
Ava: Maybe, maybe not. Still, I can’t help but wonder, what would happen if we changed the fate that’s already been written?
(She presents him with the Book of Prophecies.)
Ava: That's why I'm giving you this.
You are the only one of the five that I am giving the Book of Prophecies to.
Brain: What? Me??
(Ava gets up, and takes out a sheet of paper.)
Ava: My Master gave me this note containing the names of the five Union Leaders.
He put a circle around the one I was to entrust the Book of Prophecies to. No one else is allowed to see inside it.
(Ava takes the book from Brain and hides the Master’s memo inside.)
Ava: I’ve placed the note between the pages where your future has been written. Someday, when you open the book to these pages, I’m sure you’ll be able to recognize my message.
(Brain gets up and takes the book from her.)
Brain: Nah. I've already received your message, loud and clear.
(Present day. Brain rocks back and forth in his usual spot in the Foretellers’ room, deep in thought.)
???: Have you thought of something?
(It’s Lauriam.)
Brain: Are you kidding? I’ve barely even started.
Lauriam: I thought so.
In any case, the other three said they'd stay in the control room a little longer.
Brain: Alright.
Lauriam: Anyway, I'm sorry to bring up personal matters in the middle of all this, but I was able to meet and speak with a friend of Strelitzia’s. Apparently, right before she disappeared, Strelitzia had been speaking with conviction about the Keyblade War…
Earlier, you said you found it strange that someone like her, who was hesitant about joining the Dandelions, would be desperately trying to invite someone else.
I'm sure the reason behind her change of heart was because she’d just learned of the Keyblade War beforehand.
Brain: But, every member of the Dandelions knew about that. Even if she was hesitant, she would have known the war would happen.
Lauriam: Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. She would have known, so why was she suddenly trying to invite Player?
Brain: I get it now.
She knew about the war, but something prompted her to hastily change her convictions.
Lauriam: Yeah.
(Brain thinks back to something Ava said.)
Brain: But you know, I'm going to open the Book of Prophecy as little as possible.
Ava: That's fine. You'll know when the time is right.
(Present day.)
Brain: I may have thought of something.
Lauriam: Huh?
Brain: Could you give me some time to think by myself?
Lauriam: I understand. I'm counting on you.
Brain: I know.
(Meanwhile, Maleficent emerges from a dark corridor emerges in Daybreak Town.)
Maleficent: So this is Daybreak Town…
This place is filled with the wretched stench of light. Does this world truly hold the key to returning me to my original time?
(Dark flames erupt beside her. Darkness is hidden within its shadows.)
Darkness: Yes.
(Maleficent smiles.)
(Somewhere...)
???: Whoaaaaaaaa!
(Ralph and the Cy-Bug are ejected from the crashed escape pod into a forest of candy canes. They crash into the trees; Ralph manages to hold on but the Cy-Bug falls into a pond of sticky taffy.
Ralph realizes his medal fell off. He spies it hanging on a branch on a tall tree in the distance and makes his way over to get it. As he begins to climb, he hears a voice.)
???: Hi, mister!
(He spots a little girl gazing down at him from the upper branches.
Meanwhile, Player returns to Game Central Station to find Felix and Calhoun in front of the gate to Sugar Rush.)
Felix: Heeey!
I'm back with news. Ralph has definitely gone into another game.
Calhoun: Sugar Rush... Cy-Bugs’ll chew up that game faster than a chicken hawk in a coop of crippled roosters.
(Calhoun starts walking towards the gate.)
Felix: Uh. What was that now?
Calhoun: What’re you, thick? There was a Cy-Bug on that shuttle.
Do you even know what a Cy-Bug is?
Felix: I can't say that I do, ma'am.
Calhoun: Cy-Bugs are like a virus. They don't know they're in a game. All they know is eat, kill, multiply.
Without a beacon to stop them, they'll consume Sugar Rush and invade every other game until this Arcade is nothing but a smoking husk of forgotten dreams.
(Calhoun goes through. Player and Felix chase after her. She gets out her hoverboard and prepares to board.)
Felix: Wait, ma'am! I'm going with you.
Calhoun: Like fun you are, short stack. You die outside your game, you don't regenerate.
Felix: Well, neither do you, ma'am. Now, it is my job to fix what Ralph wrecks. And I cannot ask you to risk your life cleaning up his mess.
No flex on this one, ma'am. I am coming along with you.
(Calhoun pauses. She gets on the hoverboard, and motions for Felix to join her. Player approaches them.)
Calhoun: This is as far as you'll go, citizen. Leave the Cy-Bug to me.
(She and Felix depart for Sugar Rush. Chirithy appears once they've left.)
Chirithy: Aw man, they ditched us.
It sounds like Cy-Bugs are different from Heartless, but if they devour worlds, then perhaps they are a type of darkness…
Either way, maybe they're the source of the glitches. Let's follow Ralph.
(Player nods, and heads in. They soon find the crashed shuttle.)
Chirithy: This is…
(They take in their new surroundings and head towards the crashed shuttle.)
Chirithy: This must be the vehicle Ralph rode in on.
He couldn't have gotten too far. Let's hurry and find him!
(Ralph is hanging on the branch of a candy cane tree, pleading with Vaneloppe to return his medal.)
Ralph: It's mine. It's precious to me.
That thing’s my ticket to a better life.
Vaneloppe: Yeah, well, now it's my ticket.
(She glitches.)
Ralph: What the…?
Vaneloppe: See ya, chump!
(Vaneloppe leaves with the medal. Ralph calls out after her.)
Ralph: Come back!
I'll find you! I will find you!
(Vaneloppe tries to run away with the medal but keeps glitching out.)
Vaneloppe: Ugh, this sucks. Just when I finally get a coin!
(She tries again to get away but the glitching gets out of control.)
Vaneloppe: Wahhh, somebody help me!
(Player watches, perplexed by the phenomenon.)
Vaneloppe: Phew. It finally got better.
(Rinse and repeat. Eventually, she notices Player.)
Vaneloppe: Huh. I don't know why, but it looks like it calms down when I'm around you.
I'm Vaneloppe, nice to meet you! As you can see, I'm a born racer.
(They shake hands.)
Vaneloppe: Hey, can I ask you for a favor? The race is about to start.
There's a race track right outside of this forest. Take me there!
(Player nods.)
COMMENTS
Reposting rough translation
[spoiler]
About 4 years ago--
[Brain and Ava are together on the lookout over Daybreak Town]
Brain: Union Leader? Me? That must be a joke.
Ava: It's real.
Brain: I'm not much of the leader type. On what basis did you choose me?
Ava: The Master appointed you.
Brain: Your Master? The Master of Masters?
Ava: That's right. So do your best.
Brain: "Do you best," she says. Looks like it won't be that simple. Seems annoying, and who are these other four?
Ava: I won't say just yet.
Brain: Is that so? The five have to be present after the big battle, so before that shouldn't they contact to avoid something unplanned for? Based on the outline, it actually seems rather shady.
Ava: That's just like you, Brain-kun.
Brain: Ehh, "just like me," but if I'm right, that's gonna be bad.
[Ava sits next to him]
Ava: What would you think, if the fate of the world was already decided?
Brain: That's the worst.
Ava: Why?
Brain: Isn't it boring? A future that goes just as planned.
Ava: But, if it doesn't go as planned, would you know what to do?
Brain: The Book of Prophecies, is that it?
Ava: Yes. You won't be able to change what's written in the Book.
Brain: Ah, probably... Hm? But, if I could change it, the things that change would naturally not be written in the Book, right? Hmm? That'd be contradictory... Well, once it changed, it'd be rewritten?
Ava: I don't know what would happen if something changed. That being the case, there isn't a future that isn't planned, then?
Brain: What's the meaning of that?
Ava: Well... I've also thought "what would happen if we changed the fate that's been written?" So, I'm also giving you this.
[Ava produces the Book of Prophecies]
Ava: I'm meant to give only one of the five this Book.
Brain: What? Me??
Ava: On the note the Master gave me, he wrote the five Union Leaders' names, and circled the one who would receive the Book. The others who aren't circled must not be shown the Book.
[Ava opens the Book and places the Master's note inside]
Ava: I've placed the note on the pages where your futures are written. When you open this page, I think you'll recognize my message.
Brain: Nah, I've already received your message.
[Brain sits at the desk in the Foretellers' Study]
???: Have you thought of something?
[Lauriam steps into frame]
Brain: Nope. You're too quick, come back later.
Lauriam: Right. The other three said they'll stay in the Control Room for a little while.
Brain: Is that so?
Lauriam: Sorry for speaking independently at a time like this, but I wanted to ask about the friend Strelitzia met. Before she disappeared, she was convinced of the Keyblade War. Before, you said that Strelitzia was hesitating to join the Dandelions, and that there was someone she wanted to invite. That made me uncomfortable. The reason she changed must have been that she discovered this just before the War.
Brain: But, all the Dandelions knew about the War. To hesitate like that, she'd have to be a member and know about the War.
Lauriam: Yes, exactly. She must've known, so why did she suddenly go to invite Player?
Brain: I understand. She was aware of the big battle, but something came up to quickly change her convictions.
Lauriam: Yes.
[Brain thinks back to his meeting with Ava]
Brain: Y'know, it'll take all I've got not to open the Book.
Ava: You'll understand when the right time comes.
[Back to present]
Brain: But what if I don't understand anything?
Lauriam: Hm?
Brain: Could you let me think by myself for a moment?
Lauriam: Got it. I'm counting on you.
Brain: Sure.
[A Dark Corridor opens in the fountain plaza, and Maleficent steps out]
Maleficent: So this is Daybreak Town... This place just stinks of being filled with light. Can I find the key to returning to my own time in this world?
[Pluming darkness appears behind her, surrounding a mysterious figure]
Darkness: Sure.[/spoiler]
It will be quite interesting if Luxu of the future took Maleficent to the past
Reposting rough translation
[spoiler]
About 4 years ago--
[Brain and Ava are together on the lookout over Daybreak Town]
Brain: Union Leader? Me? That must be a joke.
Ava: It's real.
Brain: I'm not much of the leader type. On what basis did you choose me?
Ava: The Master appointed you.
Brain: Your Master? The Master of Masters?
Ava: That's right. So do your best.
Brain: "Do you best," she says. Looks like it won't be that simple. Seems annoying, and who are these other four?
Ava: I won't say just yet.
Brain: Is that so? The five have to be present after the big battle, so before that shouldn't they contact to avoid something unplanned for? Based on the outline, it actually seems rather shady.
Ava: That's just like you, Brain-kun.
Brain: Ehh, "just like me," but if I'm right, that's gonna be bad.
[Ava sits next to him]
Ava: What would you think, if the fate of the world was already decided?
Brain: That's the worst.
Ava: Why?
Brain: Isn't it boring? A future that goes just as planned.
Ava: But, if it doesn't go as planned, would you know what to do?
Brain: The Book of Prophecies, is that it?
Ava: Yes. You won't be able to change what's written in the Book.
Brain: Ah, probably... Hm? But, if I could change it, the things that change would naturally not be written in the Book, right? Hmm? That'd be contradictory... Well, once it changed, it'd be rewritten?
Ava: I don't know what would happen if something changed. That being the case, there isn't a future that isn't planned, then?
Brain: What's the meaning of that?
Ava: Well... I've also thought "what would happen if we changed the fate that's been written?" So, I'm also giving you this.
[Ava produces the Book of Prophecies]
Ava: I'm meant to give only one of the five this Book.
Brain: What? Me??
Ava: On the note the Master gave me, he wrote the five Union Leaders' names, and circled the one who would receive the Book. The others who aren't circled must not be shown the Book.
[Ava opens the Book and places the Master's note inside]
Ava: I've placed the note on the pages where your futures are written. When you open this page, I think you'll recognize my message.
Brain: Nah, I've already received your message.
[Brain sits at the desk in the Foretellers' Study]
???: Have you thought of something?
[Lauriam steps into frame]
Brain: Nope. You're too quick, come back later.
Lauriam: Right. The other three said they'll stay in the Control Room for a little while.
Brain: Is that so?
Lauriam: Sorry for speaking independently at a time like this, but I wanted to ask about the friend Strelitzia met. Before she disappeared, she was convinced of the Keyblade War. Before, you said that Strelitzia was hesitating to join the Dandelions, and that there was someone she wanted to invite. That made me uncomfortable. The reason she changed must have been that she discovered this just before the War.
Brain: But, all the Dandelions knew about the War. To hesitate like that, she'd have to be a member and know about the War.
Lauriam: Yes, exactly. She must've known, so why did she suddenly go to invite Player?
Brain: I understand. She was aware of the big battle, but something came up to quickly change her convictions.
Lauriam: Yes.
[Brain thinks back to his meeting with Ava]
Brain: Y'know, it'll take all I've got not to open the Book.
Ava: You'll understand when the right time comes.
[Back to present]
Brain: But what if I don't understand anything?
Lauriam: Hm?
Brain: Could you let me think by myself for a moment?
Lauriam: Got it. I'm counting on you.
Brain: Sure.
[A Dark Corridor opens in the fountain plaza, and Maleficent steps out]
Maleficent: So this is Daybreak Town... This place just stinks of being filled with light. Can I find the key to returning to my own time in this world?
[Pluming darkness appears behind her, surrounding a mysterious figure]
Darkness: Sure.[/spoiler]
Oh, cool. Darkness is back. That said, this means that, if we're to trust the rough translation, then this isn't present day Maleficent.
[SPOILER]It was confirmed earlier that this was KH1 Maleficent after being struck down by Riku-Ansem to explain how se returns in KH2, so yeah, not the present day Maleficent from KH3.[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER="The timing"]So this update seemingly confirms with the "about four years ago" scene that it's been around 4 years since the Keyblade War? That's what I'm getting from this. [/SPOILER]
[SPOILER="The timing"]So this update seemingly confirms with the "about four years ago" scene that it's been around 4 years since the Keyblade War? That's what I'm getting from this. [/SPOILER]
Seems that way. These recent scenes also appear to suggest the game flows in real time. (KHUX launched in Japan in 2015.)
Yo, that was a great cliffhanger!
Even though the 4 main story updates "in a row" turned out to be monthly, they are being worth the wait.
[SPOILER]It was confirmed earlier that this was KH1 Maleficent after being struck down by Riku-Ansem to explain how se returns in KH2, so yeah, not the present day Maleficent from KH3.[/SPOILER]
Question is: what will Darkness do afterwards?
Seems that way. These recent scenes also appear to suggest the game flows in real time. (KHUX launched in Japan in 2015.)
Not exactly, I don't think. When Strelitzia was introduced, chronologically that was just before the χ[chi] final chapter, and she said it'd been two years since the start of χ[chi]. After that there's an ambiguous amount of months timeskipped in the final chapter, then the events of Uχ
So the "five years ago" of last month is roughly three years prior to χ[chi], and this flashback is two years prior.
There might be a meta layer to the timing of these time stamps, but I don't think it's implying that somehow the actual events of Uχ have been spread out over four whole years in-universe...
Am I the only one getting the feeling that Ava is Strelitzia's killer from this? I might just be crazy.
Am I the only one getting the feeling that Ava is Strelitzia's killer from this? I might just be crazy.
Well Brain's out of the picture now, and Ava is very likely lying in regards to MoM picking Brain.
It's either her or Ven, and the only reason some folks want it to be Ven is to have an explanation for how he has enough darkness to form a whole boi.
Am I the only one getting the feeling that Ava is Strelitzia's killer from this? I might just be crazy.
Well Brain's out of the picture now, and Ava is very likely lying in regards to MoM picking Brain.
It's either her or Ven, and the only reason some folks want it to be Ven is to have an explanation for how he has enough darkness to form a whole boi.
I never thought of that, but it's possible. If so, then even though Ava manipulated the MoM's plan, it still means that his plan is still going accordingly, so does this mean that he foretold Ava's betrayal?
And a random thought: what if Darkness inserted himself inside Ventus in order to jump a Worldline and then Darkness is Vanitas?
I never thought of that, but it's possible. If so, then even though Ava manipulated the MoM's plan, it still means that his plan is still going accordingly, so does this mean that he foretold Ava's betrayal?
And a random thought: what if Darkness inserted himself inside Ventus in order to jump a Worldline and then Darkness is Vanitas?
I wouldn't even go as far as saying she deliberately "manipulated" but rather hastily tried to throw some wrenches in. Ava's totally shaken and "off" after Luxu explains everything to her and when she confronts the Player afterwards in the war itself.
There isn't much time between these two events so all Ava could have done is doing some quick actions to try and throw off MoM's designs, leaving the rest to Blaine as explained in this update.
It is certainly possible and would also explain why Ventus is instinctively so antagonistic and doesn't want any "reunion" at all.
In that case however "Vanitas" would not be the natural darkness of Ven's heart but an outside force which hid inside it.
I wouldn't even go as far as saying she deliberately "manipulated" but rather hastily tried to throw some wrenches in. Ava's totally shaken and "off" after Luxu explains everything to her and when she confronts the Player afterwards in the war itself.
There isn't much time between these two events so all Ava could have done is doing some quick actions to try and throw off MoM's designs, leaving the rest to Blaine as explained in this update.
It is certainly possible and would also explain why Ventus is instinctively so antagonistic and doesn't want any "reunion" at all.
In that case however "Vanitas" would not be the natural darkness of Ven's heart but an outside force which hid inside it.
True. In other words, Ava improvised and yet she failed. I guess the MoM really has foretold a lot of stuff.
Sorry for the delay, y'all. Here's our video, thanks always to goldpanner for translating!
You guys get the feeling that part of the reason Strelly was trying to get the Player to join the Dandelions is because she had the Book and read it?
Also since the update ended with the start of Sugar Rush I guess the next two will be primarily Sugar Rush.
Also since the update ended with the start of Sugar Rush I guess the next two will be primarily Sugar Rush.
The movie primarily took place in Sugar Rush, so they could make it last quite a while.
Still, it's a shame that they can only make it last 5 quests at a time. Is there any other games as a service that dishes out irrelevant story at such a slow pace?
Though I'm interested to see how they adapt Ralph teaching Vanellope to drive (Square Enix better have purchased the rights to Rihanna's "Shut Up and Drive"). Maybe KHUX is about to include a racing mini-game. Lorde knows this game needs a new refreshing mechanic, though with their track record it'd be full of the same gluttonous money grabbing mechanics as the rest of the game.
The movie primarily took place in Sugar Rush, so they could make it last quite a while.
Still, it's a shame that they can only make it last 5 quests at a time. Is there any other games as a service that dishes out irrelevant story at such a slow pace?
I have a feeling there's something out there but I'm not sure.
Yeesh.
I have a feeling there's something out there but I'm not sure.
Yeesh.
I have a feeling someone can chime in with a game that does exactly what I proposed, or a game that doesn't have a story, but I still maintain that KHUX is pretty awful in its current iteration, and has been since last 2016.
I really, really, really hope that what Nomura hinted the UX writers at suggesting is a movie or console game that covers everything from the end of BC to now because it's pitiful how little main story is given to us. I mean, Maleficent and Darkness's conversation occurred on October 2018. And now, in November 2019, we get a follow up THAT ISN'T EVEN A FOLLOW UP. 13 months for NOTHING.
I feel like such a fucking fool for thinking that Re:coded, DDD, and KHUX were setting up Maleficent having a big story in KH3 because I was left utterly wounded when KH3 rolled around and she was barely in it (and the biggest part of her story was relegated to the epilogue where you just see her turn around and walk away).
I have no idea what Nomura could possibly be thinking with this story because he withholds actually giving characters a story to work towards. We know Disney is strict but it's hard to discern what is a Disney restriction and what is a part of his lazy writing. Forgive me, Skuld fans, but KHUX is having a major Skuld, Ventus, and Maleficent problem because it has been years since these characters have been brought in and flaunted about for theorists but nothing has come about for them, and a big part is because of how little story is given to dedicated fans month to month.
For crying out loud, Square Enix North America considered the Keyblade War as proficient main story enough that they didn't even update the main story, which also happened when the Moogle o' Glory quests came in. It still baffles me, in this fucking day and this fucking age, in fucking 2019, the Square fucking Enix withholds 6+ months of 5 quest story just because they don't want to give this to the players.
I apologise, [USER=241801]@KeybladeLordSora[/USER], that this post is so large and you got the notification because I quoted you, but I have been let down for the longest time by KHUX and SENA and really wish they would pull their fucking heads out of their stupid fucking asses and pull their shit together, because as much as it hurts that there are people pouring money into this game, REAL, ACTUALLY, Kingdom Hearts fans should only be caring about the story and how it influences the end of KH3 and the next game (y'know, the things that exist outside of paid content)*.
*not to say SEJP is clear of this guilt. They are also working at 5 quests per month, but they are the ones designing all this content to be delivered at this pace.
I have a feeling someone can chime in with a game that does exactly what I proposed, or a game that doesn't have a story, but I still maintain that KHUX is pretty awful in its current iteration, and has been since last 2016.
I really, really, really hope that what Nomura hinted the UX writers at suggesting is a movie or console game that covers everything from the end of BC to now because it's pitiful how little main story is given to us. I mean, Maleficent and Darkness's conversation occurred on October 2018. And now, in November 2019, we get a follow up THAT ISN'T EVEN A FOLLOW UP. 13 months for NOTHING.
I feel like such a fucking fool for thinking that Re:coded, DDD, and KHUX were setting up Maleficent having a big story in KH3 because I was left utterly wounded when KH3 rolled around and she was barely in it (and the biggest part of her story was relegated to the epilogue where you just see her turn around and walk away).
I have no idea what Nomura could possibly be thinking with this story because he withholds actually giving characters a story to work towards. We know Disney is strict but it's hard to discern what is a Disney restriction and what is a part of his lazy writing. Forgive me, Skuld fans, but KHUX is having a major Skuld, Ventus, and Maleficent problem because it has been years since these characters have been brought in and flaunted about for theorists but nothing has come about for them, and a big part is because of how little story is given to dedicated fans month to month.
For crying out loud, Square Enix North America considered the Keyblade War as proficient main story enough that they didn't even update the main story, which also happened when the Moogle o' Glory quests came in. It still baffles me, in this fucking day and this fucking age, in fucking 2019, the Square fucking Enix withholds 6+ months of 5 quest story just because they don't want to give this to the players.
I apologise, [USER=241801]@KeybladeLordSora[/USER], that this post is so large and you got the notification because I quoted you, but I have been let down for the longest time by KHUX and SENA and really wish they would pull their fucking heads out of their stupid fucking asses and pull their shit together, because as much as it hurts that there are people pouring money into this game, REAL, ACTUALLY, Kingdom Hearts fans should only be caring about the story and how it influences the end of KH3 and the next game (y'know, the things that exist outside of paid content)*.
*not to say SEJP is clear of this guilt. They are also working at 5 quests per month, but they are the ones designing all this content to be delivered at this pace.
I'm just gonna say this.
X in general would've been infinitely better if it was never a PC/mobile game to begin with.
Its story is much better suited for a legit video game than a PC/mobile game where I'm constantly wondering if Nomura really has much control over it or if it's just Corporate handling it.
I'm just gonna say this.
X in general would've been infinitely better if it was never a PC/mobile game to begin with.
Its story is much better suited for a legit video game than a PC/mobile game where I'm constantly wondering if Nomura really has much control over it or if it's just Corporate handling it.
I absolutely agree with you. Nomura could be the patsy who can only work to the schedule given to him (once a month) and that really affects the storytelling. This new crop of Foretellers have been in the mix in over two years and we barely know anything about them or things that make them interesting, and I'm sure Nomura has a lot of ideas about it but can't reveal it in a timely manner. But there are times when fans are frustrated and wish things could proceed in a timely manner, and I'm certainly feeling that when the Player is stuck in a Disney world and the story is moving outside of that (which pedals Disney = irrelevant even faster).
Have the commented on KHx/Ux/UX coming to consoles?
Because I would play through the story then.
This is why I argue that the perfect bridge game between KINGDOM HEARTS III and IV would be the story about Young Xehanort during his Scala ad Caelum years and how he gets knowledge about the past and Xehanort would be a metaphor of us, the players, finding out about the KHx and KHUx era lore. Because, obviously, someone or something had to have told Xehanort about it. Maybe he intercepted a meeting between blueblood wielders? Or he read it in a forbidden chamber somewhere? I mean, if the Master of Land of Departure can turn the world into a maze to protect whatever the hey they're trying to protect, then something tells me that Scala may be full of secret passages and chambers with knowledge about the past, especially how Scala was literally built over Daybreak.
That's another thing: what the heck happened with Daybreak Town and who decided to build a whole nexus for Keyblade wielders atop it?
I absolutely agree with you. Nomura could be the patsy who can only work to the schedule given to him (once a month) and that really affects the storytelling. This new crop of Foretellers have been in the mix in over two years and we barely know anything about them or things that make them interesting, and I'm sure Nomura has a lot of ideas about it but can't reveal it in a timely manner. But there are times when fans are frustrated and wish things could proceed in a timely manner, and I'm certainly feeling that when the Player is stuck in a Disney world and the story is moving outside of that (which pedals Disney = irrelevant even faster).
Exactly.
The story this game is trying to tell is more suited for a legit video game/movie/anime anyway, not a mobile game where Nomura very likely isn't allowed to have the main story progress in a more timely manner because that would require having the game shut down when it reaches the endpoint like its browser predecessor.
And having it be a legit video game would also mean no bosses with 9999999 life bars.
To be honest, FINAL FANTASY XV Pocket Edition in my opinion established the precedent that mobile games can deliver console experiences. Yes, Pocket Edition was a game based on a game that had to be scaled down, but it was still a console experience nonetheless. I'm sure it's possible to develop a AAA-esque video game for mobile devices, but it would have to have a reasonable pricepoint and be marketed differently from standard mobile games. So it's possible that Nomura and the team can sort of remake KHUx into a more traditional KH game, but in mobile.
Or just outright use Unreal Engine 4, reutilize the assets and give us a more streamlined KHx and Ux lore experience. Though I am honestly expecting a movie. Perhaps a bridge movie before they release the new KH game?
I am far, far, far from making decisions within Square Enix nor having my words have any reflections with how they proceed with their IPs but
Or just outright use Unreal Engine 4, reutilize the assets and give us a more streamlined KHx and Ux lore experience. Though I am honestly expecting a movie. Perhaps a bridge movie before they release the new KH game?
This is EXACTLY what I would do. Despite BC being a movie, they spent time on making assets for Daybreak Town. KH3 reused only four of the five Foreteller models, as well as Chirithy, but they spent their time constructing various assets for Daybreak Town itself. Turn that into a game, a proper single player game, which gives all of the UX info in a clear manner, and I would be happy.
But the nature of mobile games is they provide a tonne of revenue due to microtransactions so KHUX's story coming to a close isn't anywhere near. Heck, introducing KH CoM Sora with Superburst ++ and then, less than a week later, bringing in Terra-Xehanort Superburst ++ and the highest jewel offering being $160 AUD for less than 15,000 jewels (under 5 pulls) for 10 pull guarantee tells me we are far from KHUX ending.
And having it be a legit video game would also mean no bosses with 9999999 life bars.
And this as well. Sign has asked me to record specific English KHUX scenes but I can't provide any of the Foretellers due to their INSANE health.
especially how Scala was literally built over Daybreak.
| That's another thing: what the heck happened with Daybreak Town and who decided to build a whole nexus for Keyblade wielders atop it? |
Darkness gonna get 'em.
All the Dandelions save for Skuld, Lauriam, and Ventus.
But the nature of mobile games is they provide a tonne of revenue due to microtransactions so KHUX's story coming to a close isn't anywhere near. Heck, introducing KH CoM Sora with Superburst ++ and then, less than a week later, bringing in Terra-Xehanort Superburst ++ and the highest jewel offering being $160 AUD for less than 15,000 jewels (under 5 pulls) for 10 pull guarantee tells me we are far from KHUX ending.
And this as well. Sign has asked me to record specific English KHUX scenes but I can't provide any of the Foretellers due to their INSANE health.
And this is what I'm talking about. UX's story isn't fit for a mobile game that is just designed to be a money printer that doesn't end.
As for the health, imagine if Vergil had as much health as current UX bosses. His fights wouldn't be enjoyable because they'd be going on for too long. He wouldn't be known for his difficulty but rather how tediously long the fights are.
This is EXACTLY what I would do. Despite BC being a movie, they spent time on making assets for Daybreak Town. KH3 reused only four of the five Foreteller models, as well as Chirithy, but they spent their time constructing various assets for Daybreak Town itself. Turn that into a game, a proper single player game, which gives all of the UX info in a clear manner, and I would be happy.
I think a KHUx game could be the perfect game to play as a sort of KINGDOM HEARTS I Remake and KHIII-KHIV bridge game. The player experiences the worlds of the original Seven Lights and then we have the Union Leader meetings info-dumping us about the overall plot.
But the nature of mobile games is they provide a tonne of revenue due to microtransactions so KHUX's story coming to a close isn't anywhere near. Heck, introducing KH CoM Sora with Superburst ++ and then, less than a week later, bringing in Terra-Xehanort Superburst ++ and the highest jewel offering being $160 AUD for less than 15,000 jewels (under 5 pulls) for 10 pull guarantee tells me we are far from KHUX ending.
Pretty much this. When you have an app game with microtransactions, storytelling gets shoved hard.
Darkness gonna get 'em.
All the Dandelions save for Skuld, Lauriam, and Ventus.
Maybe. If Darkness got out of the Datascape to help Maleficent, what assures us that he didn't stay out? What if he's the reason that everyone has to make a Worldline jump and Ventus, Lauriam and Skuld end up where they end up?
Why do I have a gut feeling that Ventus will be set up?
Why do I have a gut feeling that Ventus will be set up?
I'm starting to believe that Darkness will posses Ventus and Darkness will end up being Vanitas.
You guys get the feeling that part of the reason Strelly was trying to get the Player to join the Dandelions is because she had the Book and read it?
Also since the update ended with the start of Sugar Rush I guess the next two will be primarily Sugar Rush.
From what we know, every Dandelion knew about the war but only the Union leaders were told it'd bring about the end of the world and everyone who's not a Dandelion would perish. Strelitzia has a huge crush on Player, so she panicked once she realized they're not a Dandelion and was desperately trying to get them to join.
I'm starting to believe that Darkness will posses Ventus and Darkness will end up being Vanitas.
How does this theory work?
How does this theory work?
Would justify the amount of darkness that created Vanitas.
Would justify the amount of darkness that created Vanitas.
To be honest, despite the heartstation demonstrating a little amount of darkness Ven had, I will never understand how Ventus was able or capable of creating another being. That being can create a horde of monsters through their emotions and furthermore act like a human. How is that not suspicious?? This is why I think Ventus will be a decoy or a victim/tool.
“And therein lies the reason why the Keyblade War has gone on so long.”
I am not sure if I am interpreting wrong but I think MoM is suggesting that darkness was the reason why the KW happened so long.
We all know Vanitas have an obsession with the Keyblade war and if I recall properly, MoM said when he was a kid and witnessed + participated in the Keyblade War himself, he fought the darkness—that had a form like humans but they weren’t really humans. They can change their form and hide in others
Maybe the darkness hid inside of Ventus. I think darkness is some form of Vanitas, not entirely him. When Xehanort extracted it out, Vanitas was born with the darkness characteristics. Lol idk at this point, I’m spit balling.
If you haven’t read the KH3 novel, whether it’s canon or not to the game, Vanitas said that he had ancient memories that could be either Ventus or someone else's memories. He doesn’t know for sure himself. Vanitas implied that Ventus always had “dark masses” inside of him before his heart was split by Xehanort. Black masses means the unversed, which Vanitas gained as his ability.
Theory time.
We don’t know what happened to the original pieces of light and darkness when the X-blade shattered.
What if the original 7 light shards that were broken from the X-blade, are inside of the princesses? The princesses could easily be housing light shards inside of them. While the original 13 darkness shards broken from the X-blade, was reincarnated into something
Maybe. If Darkness got out of the Datascape to help Maleficent, what assures us that he didn't stay out? What if he's the reason that everyone has to make a Worldline jump and Ventus, Lauriam and Skuld end up where they end up?
Oh wow, I was only 1/32 serious about Darkness.
Darkness being the reason Skuld and her friends "set out" to go somewhere, but wound up in the future would make a lot of sense.
Keeping the Dandelions contained would be better for spreading darkness across worlds.
Darkness wasn't in KHx, but was in Unchainedx Or rather he was, but after the war.
That wouldn't be the first time Ventus was in a Digital WorldTM.
Ephemera mentions that he could sense that the darkness "changed" or whatever that means.
Ven showed up around the same time as Darkness and has a similar outline to Ventus.
The KH3 manga mentions that Vanitas remembers the Age of Fairytales.
Dark Chirithy turns into an Unversed. Vanitas controls the Unversed.
Ventus has a Chirithy.
[S]ILluMiNaTY cOnFiRMeD[/S].
Vanitas = Darkness makes a lot of sense with the clues.
And as for reason why he's messing the Digital WorldTM up. Maybe it's because Vanitas is a dick?
He doesn't have any friends.
Darkness was outside of the datascape, so he probably can move back and forth between the real world ans the datascape.
Have the commented on KHx/Ux/UX coming to consoles?
Because I would play through the story then.
It's gonna happen sooner or later, because KHX story is important. There aren't many fans playing these KHX games, but apparently there are enough to let Square-Enix keep getting away with what they are doing, which baffles me.
The question is if it's gonna be a game or another movie. I vote for another movie because it's less work and they can explain everything that matters. Back Cover didn't cover everything, but it was enough.
After all the "spin-off games" that Dark Seeker Saga had, they should think carefully about how they wanna approach this saga.
To be honest, despite the heartstation demonstrating a little amount of darkness Ven had, I will never understand how Ventus was able or capable of creating another being. That being can create a horde of monsters through their emotions and furthermore act like a human. How is that not suspicious?? This is why I think Ventus will be a decoy or a victim/tool.
Has it ever been confirmed if Vanitas was EXCLUSIVELY an entity born from Ventus' darkness, or did Xehanort split and then on the outside Vanitas started accumulating darkness from outside Ven and then finished his form?
We all know Vanitas have an obsession with the Keyblade war and if I recall properly, MoM said when he was a kid and witnessed + participated in the Keyblade War himself, he fought the darkness—that had a form like humans but they weren’t really humans. They can change their form and hide in others
What if the "Darkness" are the original Seekers of Darkness? What if my "humans-not-humans" he meant something along the lines of what Xehanort had done: changed from heart to heart?
What if the original 7 light shards that were broken from the X-blade, are inside of the princesses? The princesses could easily be housing light shards inside of them. While the original 13 darkness shards broken from the X-blade, was reincarnated into something
Perhaps the Seven Lights, instead of being born with Pure Hearts, develop that purity in time and the Seven Shards of the xBlade go to those Pure Hearts. Which is perhaps what happened after the Seven Lights opened the Keyhole in Hollow Bastion: after using their power, the Shards went to newer Pure Hearts.
In regards to the 13 fragments of Darkness, perhaps they vanished? Assimiliated with the the darkness?
Oh wow, I was only 1/32 serious about Darkness.
Darkness being the reason Skuld and her friends "set out" to go somewhere, but wound up in the future would make a lot of sense.
Keeping the Dandelions contained would be better for spreading darkness across worlds.
Darkness wasn't in KHx, but was in Unchainedx Or rather he was, but after the war.
That wouldn't be the first time Ventus was in a Digital WorldTM.
Ephemera mentions that he could sense that the darkness "changed" or whatever that means.
Ven showed up around the same time as Darkness and has a similar outline to Ventus.
The KH3 manga mentions that Vanitas remembers the Age of Fairytales.
Dark Chirithy turns into an Unversed. Vanitas controls the Unversed.
Ventus has a Chirithy.
[S]ILluMiNaTY cOnFiRMeD[/S].
Vanitas = Darkness makes a lot of sense with the clues.
And as for reason why he's messing the Digital WorldTM up. Maybe it's because Vanitas is a dick?
He doesn't have any friends.
Darkness was outside of the datascape, so he probably can move back and forth between the real world ans the datascape.
All of this is a nice thought process.
To be honest, releasing new story updates each month through a F2P mobile game was a good idea in theory. Smartphones are so widespread, and if you only care about the story then you could breeze through without spending a dime. Shame its P2P elements have completely overshadowed that.
But hey, how about that story update? Still think Ava's the murderer and Brain's a plant.
To be honest, releasing new story updates each month through a F2P mobile game was a good idea in theory. Smartphones are so widespread, and if you only care about the story then you could breeze through without spending a dime. Shame its P2P elements have completely overshadowed that.
But hey, how about that story update? Still think Ava's the murderer and Brain's a plant.
I still wonder if the MoM knew that this was going to happen, seeing as how Luxu tells the rest of the Foretellers that she served her purpose.
Has it ever been confirmed if Vanitas was EXCLUSIVELY an entity born from Ventus' darkness, or did Xehanort split and then on the outside Vanitas started accumulating darkness from outside Ven and then finished his form?
Actuallly, yes.
Slain Unversed makes Vanitas stronger; however, if you're referring to his physical attributes looking like Sora, then no. Not until Ventus connected to Sora.
| What if the "Darkness" are the original Seekers of Darkness? What if my "humans-not-humans" he meant something along the lines of what Xehanort had done: changed from heart to heart? Well the Unversed were retconned at some point (along with Heartless), so maybe? [quote]All of this is a nice thought process. |
It ties well into my theory I'm working on that The Master is really Ventus all grown up.
| Still think Ava's the murderer and Brain's a plant. |
Brain was questioning what would happen if someone attempted to change what was written in the book, would the Master have accounted for it. It may be logical to think that the book will change along with whatever external forces changing the events.
e.g. Originally Brain killed Strelitzia and took the BoP. This was written in the book.
Something changed, and now Ava killed her and gave Brain the book. The book will change to say that that event happened.
The book itself is still in a paradox state temporally (as Union Cross is still going). That makes whatever it says still open to change. Going along with my theory that Ven is MoM, then it would suit Darkness to be the killer.
Actuallly, yes.
Slain Unversed makes Vanitas stronger; however, if you're referring to his physical attributes looking like Sora, then no. Not until Ventus connected to Sora.
Well the Unversed were retconned at some point (along with Heartless), so maybe?
It ties well into my theory I'm working on that The Master is really Ventus all grown up.
Brain was questioning what would happen if someone attempted to change what was written in the book, would the Master have accounted for it. It may be logical to think that the book will change along with whatever external forces changing the events.
e.g. Originally Brain killed Strelitzia and took the BoP. This was written in the book.
Something changed, and now Ava killed her and gave Brain the book. The book will change to say that that event happened.
The book itself is still in a paradox state temporally (as Union Cross is still going). That makes whatever it says still open to change. Going along with my theory that Ven is MoM, then it would suit Darkness to be the killer.
The key point I'm trying to draw attention to isn't the book but the note with all the names of the Union leaders on it. Ava gave that to Brain for the purpose of sending a message that someone as clever as he is would be able to figure out. She and MoM are the only ones who have ever laid eyes on that list, and it's very likely that Brain's name is not actually on it. When he sees that, he has to wonder why that is and what happened to the real leader Strelitzia. The natural conclusion would be that someone with knowledge of the Union leaders' identities had disposed of her, and only one person is capable of that at this time.
That's just how I see it anyways. I'm not really considering Darkness at the moment because they're currently irrelevant to the murderer subplot.
The key point I'm trying to draw attention to isn't the book but the note with all the names of the Union leaders on it. Ava gave that to Brain for the purpose of sending a message that someone as clever as he is would be able to figure out. She and MoM are the only ones who have ever laid eyes on that list, and it's very likely that Brain's name is not actually on it. When he sees that, he has to wonder why that is and what happened to the real leader Strelitzia. The natural conclusion would be that someone with knowledge of the Union leaders' identities had disposed of her, and only one person is capable of that at this time.
That's just how I see it anyways. I'm not really considering Darkness at the moment because they're currently irrelevant to the murderer subplot.
So either the MoM or Ava killed her?
The key point I'm trying to draw attention to isn't the book but the note with all the names of the Union leaders on it. Ava gave that to Brain for the purpose of sending a message that someone as clever as he is would be able to figure out. She and MoM are the only ones who have ever laid eyes on that list, and it's very likely that Brain's name is not actually on it. When he sees that, he has to wonder why that is and what happened to the real leader Strelitzia. The natural conclusion would be that someone with knowledge of the Union leaders' identities had disposed of her, and only one person is capable of that at this time.
That would depend on whether the page the note is written on is from the book. If so, it would be subject to change along with the events changing the book.
| That's just how I see it anyways. I'm not really considering Darkness at the moment because they're currently irrelevant to the murderer subplot. |
I actually agree that Ava is the killer, but if Ven is the Master, then darkness wouldn't be a stretch.
So either the MoM or Ava killed her?
MoM wanted Strelitzia to be a Union leader, so no.
That would depend on whether the page the note is written on is from the book. If so, it would be subject to change along with the events changing the book.
Ava's comment implies there's something off about that list, so if was on a page from the Book and the list changed to adapt to new events, there would be nothing out of the ordinary.
Ava's comment implies there's something off about that list, so if was on a page from the Book and the list changed to adapt to new events, there would be nothing out of the ordinary.
If she saw the list before it changed, it would cause alarm, because it's now her memory. We know that people react when memories are altered.
By giving it to Brain (before or after it changed), she's basically testing the theory out for herself. I hope that's the case, because it gives Ava autonomy. In a story about unchangeable fates, it gives a character a sense of life within a story she's trapped in.
The fact that the MoM still has his plan advancing makes me realise how twisted he is.
Does Ava show the note of the list of union leaders to Brain? Assuming that Brain is indeed chosen and Ava is not lying, shouldn't Brain have known all the real union leaders meaning he should know there is one fake leader inside? Well, he did say that he will open the book as little as possible.
Sorry, I didn't see the post from Sign above. Yeah, I am wondering about that too.
Ok, guys...what if Darkness is actually Ava using a secret identity in an attempt to fight the Master's program?
Ok, guys...what if Darkness is actually Ava using a secret identity in an attempt to fight the Master's program?
Ok, guys...what if Darkness is actually Ava using a secret identity in an attempt to fight the Master's program?
She does have an illusion power as shown when she transformed into one of the other Foretellers eons ago in the story, so it's not off the table that she's using it again.
mind = blown, you guys are right. But what if Ava is actually masquerading as one of the Foretellers right now? :o
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