New KINGDOM HEARTS III Re:Mind trailer releasing next week
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- Published on September 2, 2019 @ 03:07 pm
- Written by Arielle
The Official KINGDOM HEARTS Twitter account has announced that a new trailer for KINGDOM HEARTS III Re:Mind will be releasing next Monday, September 9th, 2019 at 8am Pacific Time (September 10th, 12am in Japan). The trailer will be releasing just ahead of Tokyo Game Show which begins September 11th, 2019 (September 12th in Japan).
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Finally. I'm hoping they show a few of the secret bosses in the trailer
…Wait, doesn’t it start on the 12th? If it were the 11th, I doubt some U.S. people would let the, live it down.
…Wait, doesn’t it start on the 12th? If it were the 11th, I doubt some U.S. people would let the, live it down.
In Japan it'll be the 12th but the 11th here in the US. I guess I should fix that xD
Finally, some new news about this DLC. I really hope this trailer leaves a positive impression and gives us an equivalent amount of content as Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix.
I can't wait! I hope they show a bit of the secret episode to know what it is about, but without spoiling the whole thing. I want to see more of FF7R too!
Desperately hoping they don't show too much and spoil it like they did with the main game.
Desperately hoping they don't show too much and spoil it like they did with the main game.
Search your feelings; you know it to be true
This is the best birthday news and I’ll be at Disney when the trailer drops. How perfect. Can’t wait to see some fresh content.
Desperately hoping they don't show too much and spoil it like they did with the main game.
They spoiled too much for the original game? Of the top of my head I can't think of any major plot points or twists that were spoiled through trailers
They spoiled too much for the original game? Of the top of my head I can't think of any major plot points or twists that were spoiled through trailers
They spoiled everything except the Final World.
Everybody's deaths, Dark Aqua which was a big ol' nothing, Land of Departure, the Keyblade Graveyard events outside of people being defeated...world bosses...Scala...
We saw most of the story beats, the only thing we didn't have was context for them but they were all still there.
They spoiled everything except the Final World.
Everybody's deaths, Dark Aqua which was a big ol' nothing, Land of Departure, the Keyblade Graveyard events outside of people being defeated...world bosses...Scala...
We saw most of the story beats, the only thing we didn't have was context for them but they were all still there.
Well isn't the context of how it all happened more important though? They didn't spoil how Aqua got corrupted, Ventus waking up, Kairi's death, the Lich, the Guardian housing Terra's heart, the scene with Xemnas and members 9-12, and other big reveals that happened in the game.
Nice! Good to know that there will still be something for Re:Mind after all. I am pretty much echoing everyone else, but I do hope Square doesn't give too much away this time around. Especially the Secret Episode.
Well isn't the context of how it all happened more important though? They didn't spoil how Aqua got corrupted, Ventus waking up, Kairi's death, the Lich, the Guardian housing Terra's heart, the scene with Xemnas and members 9-12, and other big reveals that happened in the game.
Just because they didn't show some things doesn't mean they didn't spoil a bunch of other just as important moments.
I'm not excited at all, it's weird considering I would be the most hype for KH3 trailers. Ah well, I'll try and watch it with no preconceptions and I expect nothing.
I'm not excited at all, it's weird considering I would be the most hype for KH3 trailers. Ah well, I'll try and watch it with no preconceptions and I expect nothing.
It's fair not to be excited. The game ended in a way that was very divisive for fans. Depending on where you stand with it, Re:Mind just feels like more of the same, while for others it feels like the exact thing we've needed since KH3 released.
I think it is better to keep your expectations in check, though.
.............Yeah no I'm not enthusiastic. Given how the last trailer was, ReMind isn't really giving me much to look forward to. I'll watch it to see the hubbub.
Well isn't the context of how it all happened more important though? They didn't spoil how Aqua got corrupted, Ventus waking up, Kairi's death, the Lich, the Guardian housing Terra's heart, the scene with Xemnas and members 9-12, and other big reveals that happened in the game.
Sort of? The problem came from the fact that we were shown more of the game than we expected. There really weren't many important reveals left to experience by comparison. It also wasn't hard to connect the dots for certain things like the Anti-Aqua plot, given that we were pretty much shown every stage of that story.
How Aqua got corrupted didn't even matter in the end, since it held no bearing on anything else in that plot (or any part of the game really), and never actually gets referenced or addressed again. That said, we actually do see her fighting SoD in the trailers without her Keyblade, as well as her physical transformation as she's sinking into the abyss.
We technically did see Ventus up and awake in at least two trailers.
The scene with Xemnas, Larxene, Marluxia, Demyx, and Luxord, again, held no bearing on the plot, doesn't lead to anything or have any connecting scenes, and is pretty much self contained. In that sense, can we even call it a true story beat, or just fluff? Still, it's something I suppose.
We see Xion and Roxas brought back (what facilitated their returns was in the background, and wasn't an actual reveal in and of itself). We see Lingering Will and Terranort. We see Vexen, and even got implications that he might be a spy of sorts in the trailers (based on the diologue). We see Demyx is back, and norted as well. We see Ansem The Wise and SoD discuss Subject X (though we didn't have the context for that). We also see Ansem the Wise talk with Ienzo. We see Repliku, as well as the moment Riku left his broken Way to Dawn (which was also spoiled) behind for him. We see Chirithy and The Final World, as well as the semi transparent Sora running through clones of himself. We see Young Xehanort state his reasons for being in the Toy Story world, and foreshadowing their "missing darkness". We see Vanitas attempt to extract Ventus from Sora, as well as what he and the Unversed (who have also returned) were doing in Monstropolis. We see Dark Riku. We see Larxene talk about the New Seven Hearts. We see Luxord talk about the Black Box. We see Vanitas in the restored Land of Departure. We see everyone die, and Sora's subsequent breakdown (as well the only diologue from both him and Riku that followed that). We see Riku protecting Sora. We see every boss for every Disney world. We see every summon/link in the game. We see every minigame, except for maybe the one in Corona. We see playable Riku. We see every form, and nearly every transformation. We see the Xehanort Replicas, hear that he intends to join with them, and see the arena for the final fight (so pretty much everything leading up to the final battle). We see Let it Go. We see Siax meet with Lea. We see Anti-Aqua of course, as well as her attacking Riku. We see Mickey's new Keyblade then as well. We see Sora find Master's Defender. We see Sora rescue Aqua. There was a point where they officially released 10-15 seconds of Sora fighting Aqua, spoiling that he does, in fact, fight her too. Aw, and we see every single member of the Seekers of Darkness. Also, Young Xehanort and Young Eraqus, as well as Scala Ad Caelum.
There's probably more I'm forgetting, but I distinctly remember seeing all of this stuff in the official promotional material for the game. It may not be absolutely everything there is to spoil, but it's more than a good 80% of the game's actual content. And that's definitely enough to sour the experience for many players.
Anywho, onto the topic. I'm honestly not sure what to even expect at this point. Like, I'm not the least bit excited for it if the base game and that last trailer were anything to go by, but I'm curious about what they decided to include in the end. If I had to guess one thing though, it'll probably be composed mostly of more reused assets.
Sort of? The problem came from the fact that we were shown more of the game than we expected. There really weren't many important reveals left to experience by comparison. It also wasn't hard to connect the dots for certain things like the Anti-Aqua plot, given that we were pretty much shown every stage of that story.
How Aqua got corrupted didn't even matter in the end, since it held no bearing on anything else in that plot (or any part of the game really), and never actually gets referenced or addressed again. That said, we actually do see her fighting SoD in the trailers without her Keyblade, as well as her physical transformation as she's sinking into the abyss.
We technically did see Ventus up and awake in at least two trailers.
The scene with Xemnas, Larxene, Marluxia, Demyx, and Luxord, again, held no bearing on the plot, doesn't lead to anything or have any connecting scenes, and is pretty much self contained. In that sense, can we even call it a true story beat, or just fluff? Still, it's something I suppose.
We see Xion and Roxas brought back (what facilitated their returns was in the background, and wasn't an actual reveal in and of itself). We see Lingering Will and Terranort. We see Vexen, and even got implications that he might be a spy of sorts in the trailers (based on the diologue). We see Demyx is back, and norted as well. We see Ansem The Wise and SoD discuss Subject X (though we didn't have the context for that). We also see Ansem the Wise talk with Ienzo. We see Repliku, as well as the moment Riku left his broken Way to Dawn (which was also spoiled) behind for him. We see Chirithy and The Final World, as well as the semi transparent Sora running through clones of himself. We see Young Xehanort state his reasons for being in the Toy Story world, and foreshadowing their "missing darkness". We see Vanitas attempt to extract Ventus from Sora, as well as what he and the Unversed (who have also returned) were doing in Monstropolis. We see Dark Riku. We see Larxene talk about the New Seven Hearts. We see Luxord talk about the Black Box. We see Vanitas in the restored Land of Departure. We see everyone die, and Sora's subsequent breakdown (as well the only diologue from both him and Riku that followed that). We see Riku protecting Sora. We see every boss for every Disney world. We see every summon/link in the game. We see every minigame, except for maybe the one in Corona. We see playable Riku. We see every form, and nearly every transformation. We see the Xehanort Replicas, hear that he intends to join with them, and see the arena for the final fight (so pretty much everything leading up to the final battle). We see Let it Go. We see Siax meet with Lea. We see Anti-Aqua of course, as well as her attacking Riku. We see Mickey's new Keyblade then as well. We see Sora find Master's Defender. We see Sora rescue Aqua. There was a point where they officially released 10-15 seconds of Sora fighting Aqua, spoiling that he does, in fact, fight her too. Aw, and we see every single member of the Seekers of Darkness. Also, Young Xehanort and Young Eraqus, as well as Scala Ad Caelum.
There's probably more I'm forgetting, but I distinctly remember seeing all of this stuff in the official promotional material for the game. It may not be absolutely everything there is to spoil, but it's more than a good 80% of the game's actual content. And that's definitely enough to sour the experience for many players.
Anywho, onto the topic. I'm honestly not sure what to even expect at this point. Like, I'm not the least bit excited for it if the base game and that last trailer were anything to go by, but I'm curious about what they decided to include in the end. If I had to guess one thing though, it'll probably be composed mostly of more reused assets.
I mean they had to give us things to speculate and get excited for in the trailers. For example yeah they did show Lea and Saix meeting but we didn't know at what point in the game it would be or the actual topic of their conversation.
I mean they had to give us things to speculate and get excited for in the trailers. For example yeah they did show Lea and Saix meeting but we didn't know at what point in the game it would be or the actual topic of their conversation.
But the thing is that they gave us too much to speculate on—it was just too much content from the latter half of the game that didn’t need to be shown. They made for cool trailers but the experience would have been more fresh had we not seen all of these key moments play out in trailers.
Also the fact that almost all of the bosses were shown in trailers meant there was nothing to be excited about when we got to the end of each world.
Please show a new Keyblade that isn't Oblivion.
Give me playable kairi ffs
and show some of the new bosses
Is too much to ask for playable mysterious tower and radiant garden? :cry:
I'll keep my expectations in check tho
Is too much to ask for playable mysterious tower and radiant garden? :cry:
I'll keep my expectations in check tho
I’d hope they could slip the former in, since they had a playable build of that space already made, but my hopes for any existing world outside of the graveyard being expanded upon are low :(
But the thing is that they gave us too much to speculate on—it was just too much content from the latter half of the game that didn’t need to be shown. They made for cool trailers but the experience would have been more fresh had we not seen all of these key moments play out in trailers.
Also the fact that almost all of the bosses were shown in trailers meant there was nothing to be excited about when we got to the end of each world.
This is definitely the main thing. Because we were shown so much already, many naturally grew to expect that much more content from the game, since who would've thought they'd show 80+% of it's content in the trailers? And then many people went into the experience fully expecting every single key moment we saw.
For example, I expected Terranort to show up, attack someone, and get halted by Lingering Will. So when it happened, it wasn't really anything I didn't already see coming.
I expected Aqua and Ansem to engage in a battle that ended with her being corrupted, and I also expected there to be some kind of explanation for why she didn't have her Keyblade, which we didn't even get. I already knew she'd fight Riku and Mickey, and I knew that they'd fail and Sora would have to be the one to finish the job (since we not only see Sora find the Master's Defender and fight her one on one, but actually see him save her once she seemingly turned back to normal). In fact, several other people on this forum recognized and criticized this back when we found out the two fought.
I knew Riku's Keyblade would be broken, and I knew he and Mickey would get a new one. I also expected Repliku (who I already knew he was in the game because we physically saw him with Riku in the next trailer) to show up around that time based on Riku's diologue. Which is exactly what happened.
I went into the game expecting Lea and Siax to finally talk about their relationship, and fully expected to get more insight into Siax's motivations because this was pretty much the only realistic opportunity for that. Which is exactly what we got. Even though I didn't know the specifics, the conversation itself, and what it meant, was already pretty clear.
I knew Aqua would ultimately lose to Vanitas once I got to the their fight in the LoD (which I also knew would get restored by Aqua), because I already saw the aftermath in the trailer. And I also knew the Guardians would eventually awaken Ven, because we saw him awake twice already in the trailers.
I expected Vexen to be a traitor working with Siax, because we saw the two speak, and saw Vexen reference Siax while talking to Demyx (in fact, I had already deduced the two would be the ones to restore Xion based on context clues and the characters histories).
I knew Xion would be a Seeker because we saw her with the group on several occasions in the trailers. I also knew both her and Roxas would show up during the end game, since we only ever saw them during the fight in the KG. Meaning they'd get little screentime, which was also a cause for disapointment. And wouldn't you know, that's exactly what happened.
I knew Axel would begin to remember Xion early on, because Kairi's letter from the orchestra concert outright told us this. It became more obvious when we saw Lea cry at Kairi's side, and unless I'm mistaken, we actually saw him see Xion back in the trailer where Kairi said "Don't hold back Lea, promise?"
I expected Sora to be the only GoL to participate in the final battle within Scala, because that was already shown as well. Which was about as disappointing as Sora having to do the work for Riku and Mickey.
I expected the Black Box and New Seven Hearts to be an important factor in the story, because we were shown and told as much in the trailers and other external material. However, neither of these concepts were actually important beyond giving an excuse for the Org members to be out and about. So that was just underwhelming trailer bait.
Do you see what I mean [USER=106750]@Zettaflare[/USER] about how the trailers can skew people's expectations?
This is definitely the main thing. Because we were shown so much already, many naturally grew to expect that much more content from the game, since who would've thought they'd show 80+% of it's content in the trailers? And then many people went into the experience fully expecting every single key moment we saw.
For example, I expected Terranort to show up, attack someone, and get halted by Lingering Will. So when it happened, it wasn't really anything I didn't already see coming.
I expected Aqua and Ansem to engage in a battle that ended with her being corrupted, and I also expected there to be some kind of explanation for why she didn't have her Keyblade, which we didn't even get. I already knew she'd fight Riku and Mickey, and I knew that they'd fail and Sora would have to be the one to finish the job (since we not only see Sora find the Master's Defender and fight her one on one, but actually see him save her once she seemingly turned back to normal). In fact, several other people on this forum recognized and criticized this back when we found out the two fought.
I knew Riku's Keyblade would be broken, and I knew he and Mickey would get a new one. I also expected Repliku (who I already knew he was in the game because we physically saw him with Riku in the next trailer) to show up around that time based on Riku's diologue. Which is exactly what happened.
I went into the game expecting Lea and Siax to finally talk about their relationship, and fully expected to get more insight into Siax's motivations because this was pretty much the only realistic opportunity for that. Which is exactly what we got. Even though I didn't know the specifics, the conversation itself, and what it meant, was already pretty clear.
I knew Aqua would ultimately lose to Vanitas once I got to the their fight in the LoD (which I also knew would get restored by Aqua), because I already saw the aftermath in the trailer. And I also knew the Guardians would eventually awaken Ven, because we saw him awake twice already in the trailers.
I expected Vexen to be a traitor working with Siax, because we saw the two speak, and saw Vexen reference Siax while talking to Demyx (in fact, I had already deduced the two would be the ones to restore Xion based on context clues and the characters histories).
I knew Xion would be a Seeker because we saw her with the group on several occasions in the trailers. I also knew both her and Roxas would show up during the end game, since we only ever saw them during the fight in the KG. Meaning they'd get little screentime, which was also a cause for disapointment. And wouldn't you know, that's exactly what happened.
I knew Axel would begin to remember Xion early on, because Kairi's letter from the orchestra concert outright told us this. It became more obvious when we saw Lea cry at Kairi's side, and unless I'm mistaken, we actually saw him see Xion back in the trailer where Kairi said "Don't hold back Lea, promise?"
I expected Sora to be the only GoL to participate in the final battle within Scala, because that was already shown as well. Which was about as disappointing as Sora having to do the work for Riku and Mickey.
I expected the Black Box and New Seven Hearts to be an important factor in the story, because we were shown and told as much in the trailers and other external material. However, neither of these concepts were actually important beyond giving an excuse for the Org members to be out and about. So that was just underwhelming trailer bait.
Do you see what I mean [USER=106750]@Zettaflare[/USER] about how the trailers can skew people's expectations?
With all this being said, in your opinion, do you think the general reception would've been much better for KH3 if they had kept information sparse? I mean KH3's general reception IS that it's good, but you get what I'm saying.
Me, I never really found too much of an issue but looking back at all the points in this thread... Yeah, they really did show a lot. Actually this isn't even just a KH-related issue, this is a Square Enix issue because this happened with some FFXV trailers and even the DLC trailers lowkey gave away too much. As hype as the Final Battle Trailer was... They should've never made that, because it opened so many doors as to why people felt disappointed at the end -- mostly Scala ad Caelum. We knew it as "Cable Town", but we weren't supposed to know that existed, so imagine if they never showed it.
HMK actually had a theory that the reason why they're releasing a trailer now, is not only because TGS is the right stage because of FFVII Remake, but because of the Union X event that's happening tomorrow. Maybe something in the event directly correlates to what they might show in the trailer and had we gotten that earlier, it could have spoiled Union X's (Part 1 at least) event. Guess we'll see tomorrow (or today, I suppose?).
With all this being said, in your opinion, do you think the general reception would've been much better for KH3 if they had kept information sparse? I mean KH3's general reception IS that it's good, but you get what I'm saying.
Me, I never really found too much of an issue but looking back at all the points in this thread... Yeah, they really did show a lot. Actually this isn't even just a KH-related issue, this is a Square Enix issue because this happened with some FFXV trailers and even the DLC trailers lowkey gave away too much. As hype as the Final Battle Trailer was... They should've never made that, because it opened so many doors as to why people felt disappointed at the end -- mostly Scala ad Caelum. We knew it as "Cable Town", but we weren't supposed to know that existed, so imagine if they never showed it.
HMK actually had a theory that the reason why they're releasing a trailer now, is not only because TGS is the right stage because of FFVII Remake, but because of the Union X event that's happening tomorrow. Maybe something in the event directly correlates to what they might show in the trailer and had we gotten that earlier, it could have spoiled Union X's (Part 1 at least) event. Guess we'll see tomorrow (or today, I suppose?).
Tomorrow’s UX event is just the same Keyblade War that happened a couple of years back on X. They only upcoming spoilers for anything in KH’s future would be the main scenario update shown in the OP.
Cool. I was wondering when we'd get more info on the DLC. I actually want to replay KH3 but I'm waiting for Re:Mind to come out.
On the topic of UX, there's only 1 new scene in the Keyblade War event (so far) and that's an opening monologue by Chirithy reflecting on the overwrite. The entire thing is just his flashback about the KHX finale.
Give me playable kairi ffs
and show some of the new bosses
Please. We need a Kairi summoning circle.
A few days earlier than I expected, but TGS week is still the best week!
What I want to see:
- A glimpse of the secret episode
- More boss battles
- A more specific release window
I know some are trying not to get hyped about this, and that is the smart thing to do really. I am not one of those people. I see any news relating to new Kingdom Hearts material and I leap at it like the naive KH fanboy that I am. I want to see more Roxas gameplay footage! I'm crossing my fingers that the other characters get to be playable too. It's okay if they aren't, I'm getting Roxas at least so I'm already happy. Please add Riku and the others in areas where I can take photos and selfies with them. I want to harass all of them so badly in the game with my gummiphone! Please give me that!
I know some are trying not to get hyped about this, and that is the smart thing to do really. I am not one of those people. I see any news relating to new Kingdom Hearts material and I leap at it like the naive KH fanboy that I am. I want to see more Roxas gameplay footage! I'm crossing my fingers that the other characters get to be playable too. It's okay if they aren't, I'm getting Roxas at least so I'm already happy. Please add Riku and the others in areas where I can take photos and selfies with them. I want to harass all of them so badly in the game with my gummiphone! Please give me that!
I think it's fine to be excited. It's better than the KH3 hate that is still ongoing. I don't understand why people who claimed to have hated the game and are now done with the series are still following KH social media just so they can repeat how much they hated it. It's been 7 months already.
Anyway, I'm not as hyped as I was for the KH3 release, obviously, but after such a long KH drought, it's nice to have something else to look forward to after the main game release and it sounds like we'll be getting a ton of new content. I really hope we get a playable Kairi, but I doubt that will happen.
I think it's fine to be excited. It's better than the KH3 hate that is still ongoing. I don't understand why people who claimed to have hated the game and are now done with the series are still following KH social media just so they can repeat how much they hated it. It's been 7 months already.
Anyway, I'm not as hyped as I was for the KH3 release, obviously, but after such a long KH drought, it's nice to have something else to look forward to after the main game release and it sounds like we'll be getting a ton of new content. I really hope we get a playable Kairi, but I doubt that will happen.
People ain’t logical and tend to be more reactive than anything else.
Tomorrow’s UX event is just the same Keyblade War that happened a couple of years back on X. They only upcoming spoilers for anything in KH’s future would be the main scenario update shown in the OP.
Okay, cause the way they were hyping it up, you would think there'd be new story-related elements for the Keyblade War stuff. I mean in that case, if it's just the same stuff all over again, why even do it?
Okay, cause the way they were hyping it up, you would think there'd be new story-related elements for the Keyblade War stuff. I mean in that case, if it's just the same stuff all over again, why even do it?
Because UX is both a retelling and continuation of Chi. So it makes sense for them to finally retell the events of the Keyblade War. There hasn’t been an official playable version of the Keyblade War available for the West since browser Chi was for Japanese players only, so this is the first time many will get to experience this part of the story if they haven’t been following along with translations.
Reminder to you so-called intellectuals official ads or trailers are in no way "spoilers". If you want to go in blind, don't watch the trailers for the game.
Reminder to you so-called intellectuals official ads or trailers are in no way "spoilers". If you want to go in blind, don't watch the trailers for the game.
You are right on that yes, but that does not mean people can’t criticize the trailers for showing way too much content.
It also isn’t a fair thing to say at all when we have games like Nier Automata that have different versions of trailers and warnings in their spoiler trailer about late-game content, or other companies that know how to market their games on just the first few hours of their game to keep the rest of their game a surprise later on.
Blaming the consumer for being upset that official marketing materials showed way too much content is failing to take into consideration that the consumer has no idea what the content in the trailers is going to end up being. They can’t know what is too much until the game releases where they can only look back in retrospect, but the company knows exactly what they are showing. They chose that content on purpose and know it is late-game content.
People place their trust into these companies in hopes that they will show a fair and balanced amount of content in their trailers that won’t ruin the mystery of late-game events. When they don’t, consumers have every right to be upset.
Things that can be done:
1) warnings like Nier Automata did
2) less late-game content in trailers
Things that shouldn’t be done:
1) blaming people for watching trailers for the previously most-anticipated game of the year
2) insulting people’s intellects for fair criticism
3) defending a corporation that does not care that you are defending their bad practices
Because UX is both a retelling and continuation of Chi. So it makes sense for them to finally retell the events of the Keyblade War. There hasn’t been an official playable version of the Keyblade War available for the West since browser Chi was for Japanese players only, so this is the first time many will get to experience this part of the story if they haven’t been following along with translations.
Ah true, I completely forgot that we never actually got to experience it firsthand. I've followed Chi and Unchained X as well as playing a bit myself for so long that I'm thinking from a lore perspective and not from a new mobile player's POV.
I know a lot of us are trying to keep our expectations in check because of varying reasons, but what are y’all excited to see in next week’s trailer?
I personally have a very secret desire to see playable Xehanort. I’ll never let it die. My heart won’t let go. ?
I know a lot of us are trying to keep our expectations in check because of varying reasons, but what are y’all excited to see in next week’s trailer?
I personally have a very secret desire to see playable Xehanort. I’ll never let it die. My heart won’t let go. ?
- New battle portals (with boss replays and new mobs.)
- New enemies, particularly the Nobodies for Vexen, Aeleus, and Ienzo.
- Any unrevealed new playable characters.
- Release date
- Unlikely, but there will be tears of joy if there’s an FF cameo teased.
I know a lot of us are trying to keep our expectations in check because of varying reasons, but what are y’all excited to see in next week’s trailer?
I personally have a very secret desire to see playable Xehanort. I’ll never let it die. My heart won’t let go. ?
-A new playable character
-New Demyx scene
-More Ansem and Xemnas because they're beautiful and deserved more.
-Maybe a secret boss
Unrealistically:
*cries*
I'm torn on whether I want to watch the trailer (in fear of being spoiled) or to just get the release date and wait for it.
On a side note, I'm hoping that ReMIND will at least have:
Face My Faces (Orchestra Version) to be used in some capacity - whether it be the intro or end credits.
More boss fights (including Leon/Yuffie/Sephiroth/Cloud, also a cutscene with them after)
A Coliseum mode in Olympus
Lots more story cutscenes that enhance KH3's story (like showing us the fight between Axel/Kairi or how Xion came back or more Xehanort stuff)
More summons (I know they wouldn't add more to the Disney worlds, but I feel like this is a plausible way to add more Disney... not having Genie as a summon is so weird and they could throw in some KH1 partners as summons like Peter Pan or Jack Skellington)
A mode to play through the whole game as another character (cutscenes revert to Sora)
Realistically:
-A new playable character
-New Demyx scene
-More Ansem and Xemnas because they're beautiful and deserved more.
-Maybe a secret boss
Unrealistically:
*cries*
This post makes me want to go and buy the FFVIII Remastered game right now.
But you know, given how much we've said we wanted FF cameos in Kingdom Hearts, maybe they might throw us a bone for ReMIND. They seem to be listening in terms of what we'd like to see, and I think that's pretty good reason for optimism.
Of course, not saying that FF cameos are likely at all, BUT I'm hoping that at least the Restoration Committee at least gets a mention somewhere in the DLC. You don't even have to have Leon show up necessarily, just say "Oh, the gang is too busy making sure Radiant Garden is running smoothly, but Leon sends his regards." Boom.
I’m so excited! I can’t wait!
This post makes me want to go and buy the FFVIII Remastered game right now.
But you know, given how much we've said we wanted FF cameos in Kingdom Hearts, maybe they might throw us a bone for ReMIND. They seem to be listening in terms of what we'd like to see, and I think that's pretty good reason for optimism.
Of course, not saying that FF cameos are likely at all, BUT I'm hoping that at least the Restoration Committee at least gets a mention somewhere in the DLC. You don't even have to have Leon show up necessarily, just say "Oh, the gang is too busy making sure Radiant Garden is running smoothly, but Leon sends his regards." Boom.
While I’d agree, this is what they did with Seifer and his crew apparently (I’ve never got the dialogue to trigger so I can’t actually say if it happened or not) and it felt kinda lame to just hear about them rather than them making models to have them stand around somewhere.
The staff even made the base for the models of some FF characters and got mad that they didn’t get to use them, so it’d be better if they actually used them this time around
Think that ReMIND will expand on Maleficent and Pete? Possibly on their plans for the next saga after their brief appearance in the epilogue
Think that ReMIND will expand on Maleficent and Pete? Possibly on their plans for the next saga after their brief appearance in the epilogue
Yes, probably. They were teased too much in the game for them not to appear in this for at least a few seconds.
Playable Kairi or new Disney content, which is least likely to happen? :p
All of these atp seems MAJOLY unrealistic. If they didn't throw a FF bone in DDD or 3, then I sincerely doubt they'll do it now. The likely hood of more Disney worlds....just becsuse is a stupid thought as well. Forgive me for being the Negative Nancy here, but at most more playable characters and potetially data bosses and something like Mushrooms is likely.
All of these atp seems MAJOLY unrealistic. If they didn't throw a FF bone in DDD or 3, then I sincerely doubt they'll do it now. The likely hood of more Disney worlds....just becsuse is a stupid thought as well. Forgive me for being the Negative Nancy here, but at most more playable characters and potetially data bosses and something like Mushrooms is likely.
Literally KH3 is chock full of FF references. You can't fly a Gummi Ship without literally flying a FF reference or explore Toy Box without one. I'd say they've thrown them a lot of bones. Asking for them to make use of content that was in development when they were making the game isn't really out of the question when it was the largest complaint about KH3 by fans on both sides of the love/hate spectrum.
KH3D was going to have FF characters but they decided to go for something a bit different since they've always mulled over the idea of including characters from other SE franchises (ever since KH1 in fact) and TWEWY being under their business division's blanket and a lot of the KH3D staff had worked on TWEWY before, they figured it was the best choice.
The only thing that went wrong was that Nomura thought that the fans didn't want to see FF characters because there were so many FF crossover products on the market like World of Final Fantasy, Brave Exvius, Record Keeper, and Dissidia. That's it. This hasn't been about the staff not wanting them, especially when the staff worked on models for FF characters and got mad at Nomura for not using them.
The fact that they took special care of having dozens of references in KH3 kinda already shows there is a massive love and respect for FF by the developers, but due to misunderstanding the fan's wants they didn't think we'd want or need them in the story.
I'm not sure where you are coming up with this "FF hasn't been thrown a bone" narrative.
The Puddings are the Mushrooms of KH3. We don't need anymore of that kind of content.
Personally, I think any new Disney material is almost impossible given how much legal teeth-pulling they'd have to go through to get it approved by Disney. Literally the only way I could see it happening is if Nomura had already sorted something out with Disney a while ago and just decided to hold it back for ReMIND, but that's so far from plausible it's not even really worth mentioning.
As for the addition of Final Fantasy characters, I'm hopeful, but not optimistic. If they wanted to add a couple new FF characters as bosses with no real voice-acted speaking roles, à la Sephiroth in KH1, then that's totally possible, but I don't think they'd be willing to bring back major players like the Radiant Garden crew unless they could get voice acting for them, which I don't think is doable at this late stage of development. Of course, KHBBS Final Mix included the Secret Episode with voice acting during approximately the same development period, so it's definitely possible, and I'm hoping on it. A Radiant Garden world might even be on the table given how much of the world's models have already been created and used for the cutscenes, and given there'd be no legal impediments with Disney about it.
If I had to guess, though, I'd say probably the vast majority of what we'll get will be all more original stuff, which is fine. Maybe they'll throw us one or two little Final Fantasy morsels, but I don't think we should expect more than that. There's certainly not going to be anything new from the Disney side of things. I'll eat my left shoe if there is.
who are you Luxord? WHO ARE YOU?!
As for the addition of Final Fantasy characters, I'm hopeful, but not optimistic. If they wanted to add a couple new FF characters as bosses with no real voice-acted speaking roles, à la Sephiroth in KH1, then that's totally possible, but I don't think they'd be willing to bring back major players like the Radiant Garden crew unless they could get voice acting for them, which I don't think is doable at this late stage of development. Of course, KHBBS Final Mix included the Secret Episode with voice acting during approximately the same development period, so it's definitely possible, and I'm hoping on it. A Radiant Garden world might even be on the table given how much of the world's models have already been created and used for the cutscenes, and given there'd be no legal impediments with Disney about it.
I mean, if theoretically they have planned ahead of time to have these characters in the DLC, it would already be worked into their development schedule.
They have to call in voice actors to do pickups for the new scenes anyways. If they add in characters like FF characters, it's not a difficult process at all. I'd think it'd be harder to get somebody like HJO back into the recording booth than say Doug Erholtz for Leon, Steve Burton for Cloud, or whoever else. Even new FF characters shouldn't be too difficult to cast.
Even if it's something small, I'm still wishing for a new original world playable, either for the new scenario Re:Mind or the secret episode. It could be Radiant Garden or Shibuya/Verum Rex.
I wonder if we will get a longer secret ending?! :unsure:
I would like to see Twilight Town expanded on.
I know a lot of us are trying to keep our expectations in check because of varying reasons, but what are y’all excited to see in next week’s trailer?
I personally have a very secret desire to see playable Xehanort. I’ll never let it die. My heart won’t let go. ?
More Roxas gameplay of course! I'm really hoping for the others being playable to, but I just feel like that is asking for too much, even though I want it. Please give it to me! Surely they've been using this time to add Lea, Kairi, Ven, and Xion in ReMind, since they already have the battle models? Possibly made one for Terra? I don't care if I'm asking for too much, I want this!
More Roxas gameplay of course! I'm really hoping for the others being playable to, but I just feel like that is asking for too much, even though I want it. Please give it to me! Surely they've been using this time to add Lea, Kairi, Ven, and Xion in ReMind, since they already have the battle models? Possibly made one for Terra? I don't care if I'm asking for too much, I want this!
Really hoping for Kairi
Looking forward to the new trailer that's coming out.
Hopefully, we get some newly recorded Dialogue in the new footage (regardless if it's Japanese or English).
We should get playable mickey, at least.
for marluxia/larxene fight
I personally want to see Mirage Arena return with Co-Op if possible.
We should get playable mickey, at least.
for marluxia/larxene fight
I think it's possible - we've seen three group fights with different controllable characters already:
You play as Riku with Sora as a Party Member, You play as Aqua vs Terranort and Vanitas and then you play as Roxas versus Saix. The only fight we haven't seen yet is the Luxord, Marluxia and Larxene fight so Mickey being playable is a possibility.
Another character I'm hoping for is Lingering Will, we can play as him fighting against Terranort
I personally want to see Mirage Arena return with Co-Op if possible.
I think it's possible - we've seen three group fights with different controllable characters already:
You play as Riku with Sora as a Party Member, You play as Aqua vs Terranort and Vanitas and then you play as Roxas versus Saix. The only fight we haven't seen yet is the Luxord, Marluxia and Larxene fight so Mickey being playable is a possibility.
Another character I'm hoping for is Lingering Will, we can play as him fighting against Terranort
Wasn't there an interview some time ago about possible online elements being added at a later date?
I'm hoping for an Utada Hikaru boss fight (she dual wields and is dressed like the artwork for "Face My Fears") and "Face My Fears (Battle Version)" plays during the fight.
I personally want to see Mirage Arena return with Co-Op if possible.
I think it's possible - we've seen three group fights with different controllable characters already:
You play as Riku with Sora as a Party Member, You play as Aqua vs Terranort and Vanitas and then you play as Roxas versus Saix. The only fight we haven't seen yet is the Luxord, Marluxia and Larxene fight so Mickey being playable is a possibility.
Another character I'm hoping for is Lingering Will, we can play as him fighting against Terranort
They can toss Laguna into the Mirage Arena while they're at it; co-op/online play, FF character, promote FFVIII remastered. Kill three birds with one stone.
I want any type of arena mode. Be it the Coliseum or the Mirage Arena. They could merge all the functions of these two into one big arena in Olympus, where Zeus is located.
Unrealistically:
*cries*
He had no right to look as good as he did in KH2
What I want from Remind at the least is an expanded TT. I'm sure that can be done but I also doubt if it will. Everything else I've given up on
I have a personal hope of having a playable segment of the Dark Realm with Riku and Mickey, which the development team could reuse assets from create a scenario of them retracing the steps of Aqua from 2.8. Or a segment where we can play as them when they were in Radiant Garden and they could meet up with the FF gang, so we can finally see them meeting each other after all the years Sora has talked about them.
I'm still not expecting anything or hyping myself up for anything more than what we've seen from the first trailer, but it's still fun to imagine potential scenarios.
Hm, we’ll see what comes to pass when the trailer drops on Monday
I have a personal hope of having a playable segment of the Dark Realm with Riku and Mickey, which the development team could reuse assets from create a scenario of them retracing the steps of Aqua from 2.8. Or a segment where we can play as them when they were in Radiant Garden and they could meet up with the FF gang, so we can finally see them meeting each other after all the years Sora has talked about them.
I had thought about something like this and your comment is a good example of how much wasted potential this game has.
I'd at least like a Cutscene with the Restoration Committee sending a message to Sora and wishing him luck on his journey. They could show Cloud in the background, hinting that he beat Sephiroth. Leon could insist that his name is Squall because Radiant Garden is restored and maybe Rinoa would be with the gang too. Pretty much tying all of the loose plot threads of the Final Fantasy Characters except Zack Fair.
When there're so many plot threads that are barely ironed out as it is, I feel the addition of the RGRC would add more to this mess.
I want to see what the heck happened when Sora went to save Kairi. In fact, if we don't get that in this--or at least at the start of the next game--I know I and a lot of the fandom will be sorely disappointed. There's just a lot of interesting things that could be done there. Maybe Kairi could even redeem herself some by actually helping Sora battle their way out of the Final World, or whatever happens (not that I blame her for anything that happened in KHIII. It was the writing, not her, and in the writing... Xemnas nearly broke hear arm, so she really couldn't do anything and Xehanort summoned her unconscious and didn't even give her a fighting chance before he killed her: which actually seems to say to me that Organization XIII DID see her as more of a threat than her KHII self was and whatnot, since to kidnap her there Axel just tugged at her hand with his own... with no other hubbub or resistance from her: not that I'm blaming KHII Kairi for anything either, though. Because she had some shining moments there--that are actually my favorite for her--and once again: it's the writing's issue, not hers. She's just a character). And it's just too important a part of the upcoming story now to be glossed over.
Speaking of Kairi, anything with her would be nice. Give me playable Kairi... give me Kairi showing up in an extended version of a secret ending, (and I think we will get an extended secret ending, as is standard, and I want that so badly:))... Show me Kairi with the Wild Card (because that is a theory. Some think it looks like Sora hands her the Wild Card at the end of the game), or her setting off with Riku or Donald and Goofy to find Sora... Or even the "Kairi is Ava" (or vice versa) theory (even though I'm done with the clones in this series, but I'll take what I can get for Kairi), or even just her training with Lea, or other scenes of her sprinkled in somewhere (seeing how she deals with being back home in Radiant Garden would be nice. Or seeing if she remembers Merlin, because KHI maybe eludes to the fact that she knew him). Just anything. Do I think I'll get these things? Haha. Probably not. Never. But I can dream.
I do want to see what happened with Xion, but mainly because Nomura said he wanted to depict her situation in this game. Also, how Naminé came back: something else that Nomura said in the Ultimania that he wanted to show us.
Other than that, anything hinting at the future of the series is cool...
Maybe learning what's going on with Ava, and why she's perhaps defected from the Master of Master's plans...
I want a ton of new boss fights, of course. And it'd be cool if at least one of them hinted at the future of the series, as is tradition. I also wouldn't say no to some Disney bosses, or something akin to the Cavern of Remembrance which is probably what we're getting.
And I actually don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for us to get Final Fantasy characters, as one of the DLCs has something to do with "Limit", and we all know how that word is used in the FF series... And as other people have said, they already have a lot of the assets done and I think Nomura noted in one interview how everyone seemed upset with the lack of FF characters... I also know a million years ago, after KHII, Nomura pretty much came out and said he wanted Rinoa in III and to explain her story with Squall. It still might be too late for that to happen now--if Nomura even still wants it--but maybe next saga?
I'm also thinking that we'll probably get some extended version of the Keyblade Graveyard stuff, since even Nomura himself said he was disappointed by how rushed some of those moments were. And I think that's why we saw those scenes in the trailer, of characters being playable in segments of the fights we haven't seen before: we're probably seeing what happened before Sora got to each group.
...I also wouldn't mind some playable scenario of Sora in the Reapers' Game, or the secret ending's "Verum Rex".
...Not saying we'll get a lot of this, if any of it, but these are all what's on my wishlist for the trailer and Re:Mind DLC... Though I do think I'm bowing out of watching the trailer, so I won't be spoiled for it as I was for III. So until I have Re:Mind in my hands, this is probably my last time discussing the upcoming KHIII DLC with you kiddos;) Enjoy, guys! I hope the trailer and it are everything you're hoping it will be!)
Edit: Also, give me that "Come on, guys! We've got to save Sora!" moment from the KHI beta trailer, please.
I want to see what the heck happened when Sora went to save Kairi. In fact, if we don't get that in this--or at least at the start of the next game--I know I and a lot of the fandom will be sorely disappointed. There's just a lot of interesting things that could be done there. Maybe Kairi could even redeem herself some by actually helping Sora battle their way out of the Final World, or whatever happens (not that I blame her for anything that happened in KHIII. It was the writing, not her, and in the writing... Xemnas nearly broke hear arm, so she really couldn't do anything and Xehanort summoned her unconscious and didn't even give her a fighting chance before he killed her: which actually seems to say to me that Organization XIII DID see her as more of a threat than her KHII self was and whatnot, since to kidnap her there Axel just tugged at her hand with his own... with no other hubbub or resistance from her: not that I'm blaming KHII Kairi for anything either, though. Because she had some shining moments there--that are actually my favorite for her--and once again: it's the writing's issue, not hers. She's just a character). And it's just too important a part of the upcoming story now to be glossed over.
Speaking of Kairi, anything with her would be nice. Give me playable Kairi... give me Kairi showing up in an extended version of a secret ending, (and I think we will get an extended secret ending, as is standard, and I want that so badly:))... Show me Kairi with the Wild Card (because that is a theory. Some think it looks like Sora hands her the Wild Card at the end of the game), or her setting off with Riku or Donald and Goofy to find Sora... Or even the "Kairi is Ava" (or vice versa) theory (even though I'm done with the clones in this series, but I'll take what I can get for Kairi), or even just her training with Lea, or other scenes of her sprinkled in somewhere (seeing how she deals with being back home in Radiant Garden would be nice. Or seeing if she remembers Merlin, because KHI maybe eludes to the fact that she knew him). Just anything. Do I think I'll get these things? Haha. Probably not. Never. But I can dream.
I do want to see what happened with Xion, but mainly because Nomura said he wanted to depict her situation in this game. Also, how Naminé came back: something else that Nomura said in the Ultimania that he wanted to show us.
Other than that, anything hinting at the future of the series is cool...
Maybe learning what's going on with Ava, and why she's perhaps defected from the Master of Master's plans...
I want a ton of new boss fights, of course. And it'd be cool if at least one of them hinted at the future of the series, as is tradition. I also wouldn't say no to some Disney bosses, or something akin to the Cavern of Remembrance which is probably what we're getting.
And I actually don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for us to get Final Fantasy characters, as one of the DLCs has something to do with "Limit", and we all know how that word is used in the FF series... And as other people have said, they already have a lot of the assets done and I think Nomura noted in one interview how everyone seemed upset with the lack of FF characters... I also know a million years ago, after KHII, Nomura pretty much came out and said he wanted Rinoa in III and to explain her story with Squall. It still might be too late for that to happen now--if Nomura even still wants it--but maybe next saga?
I'm also thinking that we'll probably get some extended version of the Keyblade Graveyard stuff, since even Nomura himself said he was disappointed by how rushed some of those moments were. And I think that's why we saw those scenes in the trailer, of characters being playable in segments of the fights we haven't seen before: we're probably seeing what happened before Sora got to each group.
...I also wouldn't mind some playable scenario of Sora in the Reapers' Game, or the secret ending's "Verum Rex".
...Not saying we'll get a lot of this, if any of it, but these are all what's on my wishlist for the trailer and Re:Mind DLC... Though I do think I'm bowing out of watching the trailer, so I won't be spoiled for it as I was for III. So until I have Re:Mind in my hands, this is probably my last time discussing the upcoming KHIII DLC with you kiddos;) Enjoy, guys! I hope the trailer and it are everything you're hoping it will be!)
Edit: Also, give me that "Come on, guys! We've got to save Sora!" moment from the KHI beta trailer, please.
I really hope the DLC will show more on how Sora saves Kairi. Mostly, I really hope Kairi will have a bigger role in the future, and that she and Sora will finally be together
You are right on that yes
Glad we can see eye to eye on this.:)
Under 24 hours to go until the trailer drops
Under 24 hours to go until the trailer drops
Don’t you mean over? It still isn’t 12am in Japan lol
I always keep telling myself to have my expectations low and I fail every single time in times like these.
I'm confused about the Trailer Release Time, everyone's saying it comes on the 10th but I'm seeing some people saying it's coming tomorrow on the 9th.
I'm confused about the Trailer Release Time, everyone's saying it comes on the 10th but I'm seeing some people saying it's coming tomorrow on the 9th.
Midnight on the 10th in Japan, which may be the 9th where you live. Regardless, it's in about 23 hours and 30 minutes.
We got ourselves a countdown! I haven't been this excited since waiting for Kingdom Hearts 3. I must say, when we do get ReMind I'm going to miss the hype and excitement of waiting for new news. The waits can be long but imo it's some of the best times in the KH community too.
If we're talking about things we'd like to see in this DLC, I have a few thoughts too.
More than anything else I just want more character interactions. Those scenes were where KH3 really shined, but for many of the cast it wasn't enough. Namine had exactly zero dialogue with anyone but Sora. Her playing with Xion at the end was nice, but not nearly enough. Have her and Kairi and Xion talk together. Xion, Axel and Roxas also didn't get any deep interactions after they were reunited. Roxas and Ven had that funny moment where they see each other, but it was only a second, need more of that! And more of TAV interacting with everyone else too! Playing ultimate frisbee was fine and dandy but I want so much morrrrre.
My go to comparison for that sort of thing is the Mass Effect 3 Citadel DLC, which was just, ugh, so brilliant. So perfect. Mixing combat missions with a big old party where everyone who ever served under you on the Normandy gets to hang out and interact [S]and get totally plastered
I mean frisky
I mean possibly steal things from your apartment Kasumi I'm watching you[/S]
Next thing. From the trailer, we know about the other playable characters in the final boss gauntlet. Well I think there should totally be a Kairi vs. Master Xehanort fight. Even if it's one of those doomed boss battles where you win but then you get knocked out after, at least it would let her get to take some damn action, not treat her like a helpless prop.
Last thing I can think of is another round in the final battle. We got to fight epic, giant versions of Ansem and Xemnas in KH1 and 2, but where the heck was our giant MX? A giant-fused-with-KH-old-man fight? I loved those boss battles in the other games and was disappointed there was nothing like it here.
I also wouldn't mind getting new bgm for it. It was kind of a big letdown during every round of the final battle to just hear Rage Awakened over and over and over again. Plus it made no musical sense. Would've loved some awesome blend of Destati, Xehanort's theme/Key of Darkness, Dearly Beloved, some mix like that.
Anyway, that's stuff I'd include if I was in charge of the DLC. And I expect exactly zero of those to happen ?
I don’t know why but I’m a bit worried about that DLC. I don’t know what to expect and hope that they nail it.
I don’t know why but I’m a bit worried about that DLC. I don’t know what to expect and hope that they nail it.
They pretty much nailed the DLC for me with KH1, 2, and BbS so I’m not that worried, but I’m still very worried at what they’re going to add through story (aka more Union x tie ins rather than KH3 story expansions / development)
So I guess it is coming tomorrow for me, I personally hope that we get a release date.
Whatever we see, I'll be excited: I'm just happy to see more Kingdom Hearts content.
10th in Japan, and 9th here in North America. Time zones are much like world lines.
I'm confused about the Trailer Release Time, everyone's saying it comes on the 10th but I'm seeing some people saying it's coming tomorrow on the 9th.
They pretty much nailed the DLC for me with KH1, 2, and BbS so I’m not that worried, but I’m still very worried at what they’re going to add through story (aka more Union x tie ins rather than KH3 story expansions / development)
Lol, it's a bit too late for that don't ya think? Pretty much everything we've seen of the added story content seems to be centered around esteblishing more Union X connections (Ex. Tying MoM into Xehanort's origin story, not!Luxord asking Luxu who he really is, etc.).
If we're talking about things we'd like to see in this DLC, I have a few thoughts too.
More than anything else I just want more character interactions. Those scenes were where KH3 really shined, but for many of the cast it wasn't enough. Namine had exactly zero dialogue with anyone but Sora. Her playing with Xion at the end was nice, but not nearly enough. Have her and Kairi and Xion talk together. Xion, Axel and Roxas also didn't get any deep interactions after they were reunited. Roxas and Ven had that funny moment where they see each other, but it was only a second, need more of that! And more of TAV interacting with everyone else too! Playing ultimate frisbee was fine and dandy but I want so much morrrrre.
My go to comparison for that sort of thing is the Mass Effect 3 Citadel DLC, which was just, ugh, so brilliant. So perfect. Mixing combat missions with a big old party where everyone who ever served under you on the Normandy gets to hang out and interact [S]and get totally plastered
I mean frisky
I mean possibly steal things from your apartment Kasumi I'm watching you[/S]
Next thing. From the trailer, we know about the other playable characters in the final boss gauntlet. Well I think there should totally be a Kairi vs. Master Xehanort fight. Even if it's one of those doomed boss battles where you win but then you get knocked out after, at least it would let her get to take some damn action, not treat her like a helpless prop.
Last thing I can think of is another round in the final battle. We got to fight epic, giant versions of Ansem and Xemnas in KH1 and 2, but where the heck was our giant MX? A giant-fused-with-KH-old-man fight? I loved those boss battles in the other games and was disappointed there was nothing like it here.
I also wouldn't mind getting new bgm for it. It was kind of a big letdown during every round of the final battle to just hear Rage Awakened over and over and over again. Plus it made no musical sense. Would've loved some awesome blend of Destati, Xehanort's theme/Key of Darkness, Dearly Beloved, some mix like that.
Anyway, that's stuff I'd include if I was in charge of the DLC. And I expect exactly zero of those to happen ?
Kairi vs. Master Xehanort post-kidnapping and pre-Sora killing Xemnas/Ansem/Young Xehanort would be great. It could explain why she is unconscious. The fight could happen after Xemnas delivers her to Master Xehanort -- he might even mention something MoM related about her (like she's one of the people from the past and give some specific reason why he chose her besides intensifying the Sora/Kairi ship). Kairi attacks Master Xehanort and they have a fight (which she wins), but then Xemnas/Ansem/Young Xehanort sneak attack her and knock her out.
Although... that would be great, the logic would be lacking because it would mean the last key was already summoned and he wouldn't need to kill her.
[USER=38951]@Xagzan[/USER] Holy crap, friend. You're absolutely right! We do need a Kairi versus Master Xehanort fight, even if it's one you of course lose story-wise. That was on my list, but I forgot it until you brought it up. Bless you. Please let us have it, and let it be like Destiny-Islanders' comic here.
And on your list of more interactions we need, can we have Terra and Riku? And Riku and Roxas probably still hating each other? LOL I appreciated the three of them racing each other in the ending, but I need more. More, I tell you. More!
The fight could happen after Xemnas delivers her to Master Xehanort -- he might even mention something MoM related about her (like she's one of the people from the past and give some specific reason why he chose her besides intensifying the Sora/Kairi ship).
I really hope that isn't the case tbh. This series doesn't need to connect any more of it's main characters to ancient times to give them relevance. It's such a mechanical and forced way of expanding their stories, and it's become trite at this point. Really, the best reasons would be her lack of strength, and her status as PoH. (Grant it, she probably lost that status after being felled by the darkness not once, but twice. And for the same reason as the original other six in KH1).
I hope we get a couple scenes explaining the weird gap between Ansem kidnapping Ansem to them at the old mansion. The scenes are done like they're meant to have happened right after the other, but there's obviously no possible way that can be.
[USER=38586]@Face My Fears[/USER] I actually wouldn't mind some Master of Masters and Kairi scenes. Because... as much as I'm also done with characters being the same people, I'm not pretending that I don't think there's some connection between Kairi and Ava (though it doesn't have to be that they're the same person. And maybe there isn't. I've also seen the "Ava is 'Darkness'" and "Skuld has Ava's heart" theories). Moreover... I've had theories about how if they wanted to explain away some of why Kairi failed in KHIII, and make it less bed--since there's rightfully been so much backlash about it on the Internet--they could say how she's actually really powerful, and her medals in KHUX are proof of that (which are canon to the series)... but perhaps too powerful. And maybe the Master of Masters or someone put a lock on her abilities because of that. IDK. OR maybe the Master of Masters could want to help her reach her full potential, as seen in her medals, because it helps him somehow. I'd actually prefer that--and have given it some thought myself--because I think Xehanort and the Master of Masters will be opposites in some ways, so if Xehanort killed her maybe the Master of Masters would want to help her (for his own gain, but still). But I'm aware this is all a pipe dream, since Nomura doesn't care about Kairi. LOL
[USER=246762]@Twilight Lumiair[/USER] I could easily be wrong about this, but I feel like Nomura wouldn't have gone to the trouble of putting Kairi on the Princess of Heart roster again--when he kicked everyone else off--if he was going to rip that status away from her at the end of this game. And Kairi definitely didn't lose her powers the first time she died, at least. Actually, the Journal says it was her Princess of Heart powers that allowed her to save Sora... This isn't confirmed at all, but it still seems to me that the reason the other Princess' lost their status was either because they gave it up (probably this. Doesn't KHIII maybe even elude to it at one point? I think Sora mentions Kairi hasn't given hers up?), or for being in the Keyblade of People's Hearts that unlocked Hollow Bastion's Keyhole in KH1. Kairi's heart not being in it yet might have saved her from losing her status then, if that theory is true.
And also... Some have talked about Kairi losing her Princess of Heart status over the years, and it always brings on a quick rebuttal that to many she wouldn't even seem like Kairi anymore, if that happened. I'm not saying Nomura couldn't do this, if he really wanted to--and if a guilty Kairi is going to be a thing in the next game, maybe he will and give her another reason to be depressed so we're really developing Kairi in a way we've never seen before--but I also think it could be a delicate matter he might not want to touch with a ten foot pole. Especially since I kind of think her being a Princess of Hearts has been why he's given up writing her some in the past: because he doesn't know how to write an original character with a heart of pure light, and is almost too afraid to try.
Edit: EdDaWiz on YouTube brought up the point that maybe some of the DLC could have Ventus, Marluxia, Demyx, Luxord, and Larxene remembering the KHUX era. And that's a valid point.
Kairi vs. Master Xehanort post-kidnapping and pre-Sora killing Xemnas/Ansem/Young Xehanort would be great. It could explain why she is unconscious. The fight could happen after Xemnas delivers her to Master Xehanort -- he might even mention something MoM related about her (like she's one of the people from the past and give some specific reason why he chose her besides intensifying the Sora/Kairi ship). Kairi attacks Master Xehanort and they have a fight (which she wins), but then Xemnas/Ansem/Young Xehanort sneak attack her and knock her out.
Although... that would be great, the logic would be lacking because it would mean the last key was already summoned and he wouldn't need to kill her.
If by some chance they do add a Kairi vs old man Xehanort fight, it's almost 98% certain Kairi will lose. The only ways I could see Kairi winning is if Xehanort actually wants to lose and never summons his Keyblade or if some unknown POH power activates in her. Though I feel that would just do more harm to the character then good.
Kairi is in a tough spot playable wise. Other then some random Heartless there is nobody she can win against. All 13 Organization members are beyond her. Unless ReMind is really going to change the events of the Keyblade Graveyard that is. That's a popular theory.
If by some chance they do add a Kairi vs old man Xehanort fight, it's almost 98% certain Kairi will lose. The only ways I could see Kairi winning is if Xehanort actually wants to lose and never summons his Keyblade or if some unknown POH power activates in her. Though I feel that would just do more harm to the character then good.
Kairi is in a tough spot playable wise. Other then some random Heartless there is nobody she can win against. All 13 Organization members are beyond her. Unless ReMind is really going to change the events of the Keyblade Graveyard that is. That's a popular theory.
Or maybe if we get the part of Sora saving Kairi at the end of the game, she can do something to help there: like if there's somehow something trying to keep them in the Final World like the Lich. IDK. Or... though it probably wouldn't be fighting (unless they fast forward and give us a playable part in Shibuya and Shinjuku and Kairi is there), we could get an extended version of the ending, where she stands up and decides she isn't going to sit back and is going to go save Sora right now and has the Wild Card in hand: perhaps something like that could help her character some.
Also... how long until the trailer, guys? And sorry for all the posts in this thread--and other ones tonight--I'm just super hype for this trailer, and it's showing.
Kairi vs. Master Xehanort post-kidnapping and pre-Sora killing Xemnas/Ansem/Young Xehanort would be great. It could explain why she is unconscious. The fight could happen after Xemnas delivers her to Master Xehanort -- he might even mention something MoM related about her (like she's one of the people from the past and give some specific reason why he chose her besides intensifying the Sora/Kairi ship). Kairi attacks Master Xehanort and they have a fight (which she wins), but then Xemnas/Ansem/Young Xehanort sneak attack her and knock her out.
Although... that would be great, the logic would be lacking because it would mean the last key was already summoned and he wouldn't need to kill her.
Bah, who needs logic in KH lol. Besides, isn't the key only summoned once a fighter is destroyed? Even though he knocks her out offscreen, the key still doesn't form until he strikes her down, so a fight in between shouldn't be incongruous with that.
[USER=38951]@Xagzan[/USER] Holy crap, friend. You're absolutely right! We do need a Kairi versus Master Xehanort fight, even if it's one you of course lose story-wise. That was on my list, but I forgot it until you brought it up. Bless you. Please let us have it, and let it be like Destiny-Islanders' comic here.
And on your list of more interactions we need, can we have Terra and Riku? And Riku and Roxas probably still hating each other? LOL I appreciated the three of them racing each other in the ending, but I need more. More, I tell you. More!
Holy forking shirt balls that comic is awesome. Oh man I almost wish I hadn't seen that, now it's 10 billion percent what I want and I'm gonna be mad when it doesn't happen.
Just...RESIST, Kairi for god's sake! Let her resist, Nomura!
They pretty much nailed the DLC for me with KH1, 2, and BbS so I’m not that worried, but I’m still very worried at what they’re going to add through story (aka more Union x tie ins rather than KH3 story expansions / development)
This was my fear of what KH3 would do before it came out, and then it proved it right.
At this point I would 100% expect it, just so that when it does it won't be as disappointing, and if not then it's a welcomed surprise.
Honestly, a cutscene between Kairi/Xehanort during the kidnapping time (and what led to her becoming unconscious) would be enough. As much as I would love playable Kairi in the fight against Axel and a fight against Xion or Master Xehanort, I don't think it's happening. I just really hope Kairi gets more cutscenes (this is why Hayden should have been called back because they wouldn't have hired her to say barely anything and just scream/grunt when being kidnapped).
Side note: The trailer will be released onto YouTube right?
Side note: The trailer will be released onto YouTube right?
Yes, it’ll be on YT, Twitter, FB, probably Instagram.
It’s a good thing class for me starts at 1pm, som can catch this trailer when it goes live.
Lol, it's a bit too late for that don't ya think? Pretty much everything we've seen of the added story content seems to be centered around esteblishing more Union X connections (Ex. Tying MoM into Xehanort's origin story, not!Luxord asking Luxu who he really is, etc.).
I’m hoping the other, unseen story that’s been mentioned isn’t a UX tie-in so that’s why I’m not 100% worried, just more like 85%
so, 2 hours from now
hopes -
playable kairi
more bosses
more xion
also hoping they won't spoil the new secret boss
How exciting! Please let the other characters be playable! Pretty please!
Storyline wise the main stories I'm interested in are
1: The Xion situation
2: Fate of Lingering Will
3: Saix and Vexen's replica plans
4: What happened to Demyx
5: What did Sora do to save Kairi and Namine?
Those are my top five main things I'm really curious about, so I kinda don't want to see them in trailers as I think it would be much more fun to see it fully played out in ReMind. Now watch the trailer give us something completely new that we never expected like say Dilan and Aeleus actually being allies of Xigbar the whole time or something crazy that nobody has speculated before.
I would like a surprise that benefits us right now, like an announcement that the free DLC is out today or tomorrow xD
The thing i’m most looking forward too with this new trailer is hopefully getting a release date. That alone will leave me satisfied but some new areas or even a coliseum like series of battles would also be very welcomed. Hopefully in the form of the Mirage Arena but I won’t hold my breath for that one.
I think the trailer is gonna end with sephiroth
I think the trailer is gonna end with sephiroth
That’d certainly be a way to transition into a new FF7R trailer 8D
I reaaally don’t know what to expect. But I’d like to see a playable Aqua, Riku and Roxas outside of the battles.
five minutes from now we're all gonna be looking at the trailer going "omg... OMG!! this is the best commercial EVER"
Well, I'm definitely hyped and ready to be surprised (hopefully).
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