Kingdom Hearts 3 Ultimania - Scenario Mysteries Interview Translated
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goldpanner has translated Nomura's Scenario Mysteries interview from the KINGDOM HEARTS 3 Ultimania! He elaborates on various events that take place over the course of the game, with a focus on those that occur shortly before the final battle.
Kingdom Hearts III
Scenario Mysteries—Is the speech Sora gives in the opening, the one that begins with "They can take your world, they can take your heart," a monologue by Sora post-ending?
Nomura: That's not the only answer, but the words do suggest Sora's mental state post-ending.
—In the Final World, Sora tells Namine, "Someone else special I know won't let you down." (*T/N: Literally, "the person you miss/want to see the most will come get you.") Did he mean Riku?
Nomura: He meant that the person Namine wants to see the most would come get her, as a way of cheering her up. It is actually Riku, in the form of the one who has been entrusted with the Riku Replica's feelings, who does go and get her. Namine does feel a special connection to Riku (the Riku Replica.)
—Sora doesn't thank Namine in this game, either. Is this something that is going to be carried over into a future game?
Nomura: Well, Namine's revival did happen at the end of the game, effectively making it something that will be drawn out longer.
—How did Ansem the Wise and Ienzo and the others move Namine's heart into a vessel without Kairi being there?
Nomura: When Kairi was defeated the first time in the Keyblade Graveyard, Namine's heart was thrown into the Final World, right? And Namine's heart was also thrown out just before the final battle, when Kairi was hit by Xehanort's attack. I do plan to show the details of what happened after that.
—In the Final World, there was a "Nameless Star" whose scene was voiced. Who is she, and who is she waiting for?
Nomura: I can't reveal that yet. But I can say that whoever she is waiting for, Sora knows their name.
—When we leave the Final World, we are back to the point just before Sora and his friends were defeated. Why is that?
Nomura: The power of awakening is essentially "the power to put sleeping hearts back the way they were." But the impact of forcing his friends' fading hearts back the way they were rewrote reality, and created a singularity. The rewrite caused the chronology in which they were destroyed to have "never happened."
—How did Roxas appear at the Keyblade Graveyard?
Nomura: At that point in time, Ienzo had basically finished making Roxas' body using the replica Vexen and Demyx brought as a base and the data from Twilight Town. This is also how Xion was manufactured using Sora's memories in KH Days. When he was at a state where all he needed was for the heart inside Sora to return, his friends were in peril. So he used his connection to Sora to rush to the Keyblade Graveyard, where his heart returned to his new body and his revival as Roxas was complete.
—When Marluxia is fading, he says, "I am on the cusp of reclaiming my identity, my purpose for being." Did he remember that he was from the distant past?
Nomura: Yes. I think if you play KH Union Cross to the end, you will learn his purpose for being.
—When Larxene said, "I was really just along for the ride," she must have meant with…
Nomura: Marluxia. It's not certain whether Larxene has her old memories, but she was interested in Marluxia to a degree for some reason, and became his partner in his plan to overthrow the old Organization XIII.
—Were Marluxia and Larxene also the Keyblade wielders of old that Xemnas was searching for?
Nomura: It hasn't been made clear yet, but I believe those who play KH Union Cross can guess. By the way, Xemnas was also looking for the Chamber of Awakening in KH Days because Ventus, who was sleeping there, was a Keyblade wielder of old.
—So that means Xehanort was aware that Ventus was a Keyblade wielder of old?
Nomura: Regarding that, I think I definitely have to show sometime how Ventus and Xehanort met.
—A question about Terranort. Ansem and Xemnas came from the splitting of Terranort. Does that mean that when they were defeated in KH1 and KH2, Terra was revived alongside Master Xehanort?
Nomura: By all rights, Terra should have been revived as himself at that point in time. However, his heart was still in the clutches of Xehanort, and it was unable to go back, and the shell of his body was the only thing that revived. Then, Xehanort brought the heart of Terranort from the past and put it in that shell of a body he once controlled.
—From when was Terra's heart inside the Guardian*?
(*T/N: They call the Guardian "the Monster Behind." I could be totally wrong, but I think this is a reference to what they call the balloon accessory version of him in the KHUX Ansem avatar board, which is in Japanese something like "Monster Balloon Behind the Ansem Costume.")Nomura: Terra and Xehanort's hearts were eternally struggling against each other within Terranort. This process meant Terra's heart was caught constantly moving back and forth from its original position to the Guardian. By the way, the official name of the Guardian is "the guy behind him" (laughs).
—What happened to the Lingering Will after the battle?
Nomura: When Terra was revived it caused the Will to vanish, and the armor disappeared. But Keyblade Wielder's armour is like a Keyblade in that even if it disappears, it can be summoned again so long as the wearer is in their usual condition.
—At the end of KH3D, we saw that the New Organization XIII was missing a 13th member. Who filled that spot?
Nomura: Xion. The 12 members who were gathered in KH3D were missing the 13th, Xion, and reserve members Demyx and Vexen. That part may have felt a bit out of nowhere, and I am thinking of a way to follow-up on it.
—Did the members of the New Organization XIII have numbers?
Nomura: I did think of giving them numbers at first, but I didn't go with it in the end because it was too confusing having some members end up with different numbers than before. For example, I had gone with No.1 as Master Xehanort, No.2 as Ansem, and No.3 as Xemnas. But then I thought people would get confused like, wait, so the guy who was No.1 is now No.3?
—When Young Xehanort is fading away, he says, "Goodbye Sora. Your time in this world is..." What did he mean?
Nomura: "Your time in this world is over."* It's hinted at in the ending. Before that scene, he warned Sora, "There's a high price to pay for wielding such power foolishly." The power of awakening is not the power to bring people back to life, but Sora was using it to do just that to his friends. As a result, time was rewound - and Young Xehanort predicted that Sora would pay the price by disappearing.
(*T/N: Literally, "You will fade/vanish from this world." The verb order is different in Japanese, it was the verb "fade/vanish" that got cut off when he died.)—Was Lea insisting on being called Axel so that when Roxas came back he would recognize him?
Nomura: Yes, but also because when he saw Kairi as Xion, he remembered that there was someone he was supposed to remember, which made him feel that being called "Axel" was important.
—Why does Maleficent know about the black box from the days of old?
Nomura: After KH1, she travelled to the age of KH Union Cross. When she returned to the present after that, the result was her rebirth in KH2. The act of "returning to the present time/going to the future" is connected to how characters from the days of old have ended up in the current time period.
—It seems that Maleficent thinks that the Book of Prophecy is inside the black box...
Nomura: She does think that. It hasn't been shown exactly when she began to think that way, but I do plan to reveal it soon in KH Union Cross.
—In KH BbS, Master Xehanort's goal behind opening Kingdom Hearts was to "create a new world." But in this game, he says it is to "reset the world." Why the difference?
Nomura: What was revealed in this game was another piece of the truth: his goal was "this world is no longer any good, and we have to recreate it from scratch."
—We are interested in why Xehanort would come to such a conclusion.
Nomura: At first, I did want to use a next game to dig down into how Xehanort went from that simple boy playing the chess-like game to an admirer of the darkness. But, if I do that, then the Dark Seeker Chronicle wouldn't have ended with KH3 after all (laughs.) Some ideas had solidified to a degree, but it's shelved for now.
—During the underwater section in Scala ad Caelum, you can see a clock tower like the one that appears in KH Union Cross. Was Scala ad Caelum built upon the ruins of Daybreak Town?
Nomura: Yes. The staff who drew the concept art came to me with two proposals for the clock tower: one standing normally on the seabed, and one hanging upside-down from the surface of the sea. I chose the upside-down one.
—What was the true identity of No Heart, who appeared in KH BbS FM?
Nomura: That was also Master Xehanort. That was the armour he used to wear a long time ago, and in this game he was wearing his current armour.
—Who specifically are the "lost masters?"
Nomura: The seven (Master of Masters and six apprentices) who appear in KH X BC.
—When Luxord was fading away, he gave Sora a "Wild" card. What did that mean?
Nomura: That will come into play later. Perhaps Luxord's card holds the key to Sora's revival.
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Thanks for the translation goldpanner.
It's a bit sad we have to wait for more Maleficent action in Union Cross or even the next game. I still think it's a cool way to retroactively explain her sudden re-appearance in KHII.
It's still strange why she thinks the Book of Prophecies is in the Black Box when Brain seems to have it there. The chronology of the Black Box is also a mystery. I think the part where Luxu pulls it behind him in the Keyblade Graveyard has to be minutes before the secret ending of of KHIII, so we really might not know where or when it was between Back Cover and KHIII.
Thank you so much for the translation, Goldpanner!
Nomuraaaaaaaaaaa
GIVE ME A XEHANORT GAME. It doesn’t need to be long. Just made it a short budgeted game like Uncharted: Lost Legacy
I love how Nomura draws the line at giving the new organization members as being too confusing of all things. Not that he's wrong but still , lol
Goldpanner has done a lot of translations for Kingdom Hearts fans everywhere over so many years! You can say thank you to her by buying her a coffee!
Nomuraaaaaaaaaaa
GIVE ME A XEHANORT GAME. It doesn’t need to be long. Just made it a short budgeted game like Uncharted: Lost Legacy
Unshelf that idea, Nomura, please! T_T
I wanted a Xehanort prequel game for so, so long... then I contented myself with hoping the flashback in KH3 would be playable... but it wasn't, and KH3 made me want that game even more!
Maybe we could get an Episode Xehanort DLC. It would be really interesting if Nomura used his ideas for future DLCs.
What was the true identity of No Heart, who appeared in KH BbS FM?
Nomura: That was also Master Xehanort. That was the armour he used to wear a long time ago, and in this game he was wearing his current armour.
RIP the dream. (25 characters)
Interesting to see what his intentions were (or weren't) for Xehanort's story. I'll be honest, I kind of went into KH3 expecting to get so much more of that, along with Eraqus. (kind of like how Infinity War is Thanos' movie, but oh well). Definitely would be down for that as DLC though!
If it means exploring Scala ad Caelum properly then I'm all for an Episode of Xehanort DLC/game. Though imagine playing as Xehanort in a Disney world.
TWEWY world debunked. R.I.P the dream.
Okay, so the real reason why Marluxia and Larxene were designated in Castle Oblivion was to find Ventus. Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that Xigbar indulged Xemnas with that nugget of knowledge?
Maybe we could get an Episode Xehanort DLC. It would be really interesting if Nomura used his ideas for future DLCs.
I'm down to have anything that could introduce us to Adult Master Xehanort and Adult Eraqus. I say that they release the proposed game as a 0.2 Birth by Sleep entry, as part of the Kingdom Hearts III DLC.
TWEWY world debunked. R.I.P the dream.
No it wasn't. All Nomura has said is that the Shibuya we see is not the Shibuya world that exists in the KH universe. It's like you forgot parallel worlds were confirmed as canon to KH.
This isn't even the interview where he discusses Shibuya so please discuss the Scenario Mysteries interview content.
We all know that on a Xehanort game will be introduced a new girl character never mentioned before and her death will be catalytic for his evil .
"When Kairi was defeated the first time"
Interesting to see what his intentions were (or weren't) for Xehanort's story. I'll be honest, I kind of went into KH3 expecting to get so much more of that, along with Eraqus. (kind of like how Infinity War is Thanos' movie, but oh well). Definitely would be down for that as DLC though!
I was expecting KH3 to deal with that more too. Instead, we got silver-eyed Xehanort and a promise to always be there for Eraqus, which quadrupled my need for answers. XD
We all know that on a Xehanort game will be introduced a new girl character never mentioned before and her death will be catalytic for his evil .
Of course lol Nomura ripping off starters once again
Interesting. Thank you for the translations. Several of my questions were answered in the interview, but his answers also bring up more.
| —When we leave the Final World, we are back to the point just before Sora and his friends were defeated. Why is that? Nomura: The power of awakening is essentially "the power to put sleeping hearts back the way they were." But the impact of forcing his friends' fading hearts back the way they were rewrote reality, and created a singularity. The rewrite caused the chronology in which they were destroyed to have "never happened." |
So this basically disproves Young Xehanort's assertion in KH3D that "you cannot change the events that are destined to happen" (which I still assume he meant the future)?
| —Why does Maleficent know about the black box from the days of old? Nomura: After KH1, she travelled to the age of KH Union Cross. When she returned to the present after that, the result was her rebirth in KH2. The act of "returning to the present time/going to the future" is connected to how characters from the days of old have ended up in the current time period. |
And this would disprove Young Xehanort's other claim "you can only move forward as per the laws of time" which I interpret as that one can only travel to the future and not the past. Are these events outside of time travel? Was Young Xehanort wrong in these statements? Am I wrong? Is this a contradiction? Will it be retconned? Was introducing time travel into this series a mistake?
I enjoyed the clarification on Xehanort's motivations in this game. The English version had a few mistranslations that muddied up his intent, but Nomura reaffirms what was gleaned from the Japanese translations.
Nomuraaaaaaaaaaa
GIVE ME A XEHANORT GAME. It doesn’t need to be long. Just made it a short budgeted game like Uncharted: Lost Legacy
PLEASE. Even just Episode Xehanort, I would pay all the money for that.
Well, that explains the discrepancy with the Numbers in regard to Demyx's position and Vexen's. Were Ansem and Xemnas 2 and 3 in DDD? I thought it was the reverse.
Interesting. Thank you for the translations. Several of my questions were answered in the interview, but his answers also bring up more.
So this basically disproves Young Xehanort's assertion in KH3D that "you cannot change the events that are destined to happen" (which I still assume he meant the future)?
And this would disprove Young Xehanort's other claim "you can only move forward as per the laws of time" which I interpret as that one can only travel to the future and not the past. Are these events outside of time travel? Was Young Xehanort wrong in these statements? Am I wrong? Is this a contradiction? Will it be retconned? Was introducing time travel into this series a mistake?
[SPOILER]I mean YX wasn't wrong necessarily. Sora abused a power to extensively overwrite reality to the point time was like "okay all you are supposed to be dead so let's take it from the top" and it tried to course correct itself. But it couldn't because changes had already been put into place by others. Namine had already reached out LW so he helped prevent the lights from being bodied and shaken allowing them to keep composure and then the MoM's plan for the dandelions kicked in prevent light from expiring by giving them the power to overcome that dark tornado of heartless. Essentially not just Sora but everyone working together including a man who saw the future in the first place is what created a new reality that offshoots from the same point. It's just Sora is the one who paid the price...and maybe Ava but that's for another time.
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As for his other statement we've known that was false with UX's updates months ago. "Darkness" reveals to Maleficent there is one way to travel forward in time and we are still waiting for things to playout. It's more like the regular methods of time travel can't be used to move forward.
Hi, I was wondering if someone could clarify one of these translations for me. This one: "*T/N: Literally, "the person you miss/want to see the most will come get you."" Before the Ultimania came out, I saw that the translations of the Japanese line floating around the internet were all "the person who wants to see YOU/misses YOU the most." This makes more sense to me because it immediately follows Sora listing all of the people who want to see her (Kairi, Mickey, Roxas, etc).
Was this line from the game different from the one in the Ultimania (which implies it's Namine who wants to see someone)? Or were the translations of that Final World cutscene just wrong? Or--is it possible the quote could be taken either way, or mutually?
I think this is the line from the game ---> "番会ã„ãŸã„人ãŒè¿Žãˆã«ã„ãよ"
I'm down to have anything that could introduce us to Adult Master Xehanort and Adult Eraqus. I say that they release the proposed game as a 0.2 Birth by Sleep entry, as part of the Kingdom Hearts III DLC.
A 0.2 sized DLC Episode would be great! I really enjoyed the length of 0.2 and it works really well as an Episode Aqua as an introduction of KH3. :)
A 0.2 sized DLC Episode would be great! I really enjoyed the length of 0.2 and it works really well as an Episode Aqua as an introduction of KH3. :)
Speaking of DLC, and all that... there's something that has been REALLY bothering me. In the KH3 character compendium in game, in the KH3 Ultimania, and in both languages, Y!Eraqus and Youngest Xehanort are referred to as the Boy in White and the Boy in Black. I know that we know that they are both actually Eraqus and Xehanort. But... why would they go to such trouble to "hide" their identity? Occasionally, Jiminy writes things in his journal with ??? or vague wording when he doesn't know too much, but other times he will use information he shouldn't be able to know. In this instance... he's using vague wording about character's he's never even seen. It's very... odd.
And also I would love another 0.2 sized episode. A Riku in dark world one, Roxas/Axel/Xion perhaps, I dunno, but I love the idea.
As for his other statement we've known that was false with UX's updates months ago. "Darkness" reveals to Maleficent there is one way to travel forward in time and we are still waiting for things to playout. It's more like the regular methods of time travel can't be used to move forward.
Hold on, wasn't it already established by DDD that you can move forward in time when you moved backwards in the first place, to reach your original starting point again? Sora and Riku do this and so does Maleficent. It's just that you can't change direction again, or something like that.
We all know that on a Xehanort game will be introduced a new girl character never mentioned before and her death will be catalytic for his evil .
Well if it's worked twice why not a third time. Maybe she was Kairi's Grandma and he turned evil when she chose someone else than him :P This would explain why he's been singling out and messing with Kairi the way he has.
Interesting. Thank you for the translations. Several of my questions were answered in the interview, but his answers also bring up more.
So this basically disproves Young Xehanort's assertion in KH3D that "you cannot change the events that are destined to happen" (which I still assume he meant the future)?
Well from how I understand the interview, Sora didn't so much travel back as he rewound time using the Power of Waking. So the rules are a bit different.
As we saw Time still tried to have the events play out the same as before, but certain changes made in the rewind prevented it from repeating itself.
And this would disprove Young Xehanort's other claim "you can only move forward as per the laws of time" which I interpret as that one can only travel to the future and not the past. Are these events outside of time travel? Was Young Xehanort wrong in these statements? Am I wrong? Is this a contradiction? Will it be retconned? Was introducing time travel into this series a mistake?
Kind of already has been and probably.
Hold on, wasn't it already established by DDD that you can move forward in time when you moved backwards in the first place, to reach your original starting point again? Sora and Riku do this and so does Maleficent. It's just that you can't change direction again, or something like that.
Yeah it was something a long the lines of once you traveled back you can only move forward through time. But apparently in KHuX another rule or method is being introduced.
Hi, I was wondering if someone could clarify one of these translations for me. This one: "*T/N: Literally, "the person you miss/want to see the most will come get you."" Before the Ultimania came out, I saw that the translations of the Japanese line floating around the internet were all "the person who wants to see YOU/misses YOU the most." This makes more sense to me because it immediately follows Sora listing all of the people who want to see her (Kairi, Mickey, Roxas, etc).
Was this line from the game different from the one in the Ultimania (which implies it's Namine who wants to see someone)? Or were the translations of that Final World cutscene just wrong? Or--is it possible the quote could be taken either way, or mutually?
I think this is the line from the game ---> "番会ã„ãŸã„人ãŒè¿Žãˆã«ã„ãよ"
We asked goldpanner about it! Here's her response:
| That sentence by itself could go either way since it has no subject/pronoun, but the complete sentence Nomura provides in his answer (ナミãƒãŒä¸€ç•ªä¼šã„ãŸã„人) puts Namine as the subject, so I felt it meant someone SHE wants to meet (as in this example sentence: 今ã€ã‚ãªãŸãŒä¸€ç•ªä¼šã„ãŸã„人ã¯ã€èª°ã§ã™ã‹ï¼Ÿ Who is the person you miss the most right now?). I felt like maybe it was Sora giving another way to rebuff what she said: not only was it not true that nobody missed her, but ALSO she is allowed to miss people herself, her feelings are important too! BUUUUT on second thought, perhaps it could still mean it the other way around. I think perhaps that's why the localisation is so different - the phrase is pretty vague, perhaps they wanted to keep that vagueness too. Edit: Nah... the more I think about it, the more I think I'm right. If it were about whoever wants to meet her, I think the particle would be ã« (eg. ç§ã¯å½¼ã«ä¼šã„ãŸã„, I want to meet him) |
Despite all of Young Xehanort's warnings, I definitely overlooked them while playing. When he says "There's no saving you" I didn't instinctively think that Sora would disappear at the end.
I think all we really need is just a DLC episode for Xehanort. Something like what Roxas got in KH2. Just add a 3 hour DLC with Young Xehanort and Young Eraqus in Scala ad Caelum and you can easily give us all of the backstory content we need for Xehanort. This is DLC I would gladly pay for.
Kind of life Coded. I mean the important information in Coded could have easily been covered in KH3D, we didn't need a whole game devoted to that stuff. Could have just had Mickey investigating the message in the Journal while Sora and Riku were in the sleeping worlds.
In the same vein we don't need a Xehanort game, just a Xehanort segment in KH3. I would much rather have this than a Xion DLC. Honestly the easiest explanation Nomura could have come up with for Xion's return is to have just had it explained that while Sora was held hostage by Organization XIII in KH3D they extracted Xion from him and then restored her in a new replica body by the the heroes get to the Keyblade Graveyard. Have the Xehanort backstory be the paid DLC instead.
Was introducing time travel into this series a mistake?
It was absolutely a mistake. A
In the same vein we don't need a Xehanort game, just a Xehanort segment in KH3. I would much rather have this than a Xion DLC. Honestly the easiest explanation Nomura could have come up with for Xion's return is to have just had it explained that while Sora was held hostage by Organization XIII in KH3D they extracted Xion from him and then restored her in a new replica body by the the heroes get to the Keyblade Graveyard. Have the Xehanort backstory be the paid DLC instead. |
I completely agree with you. I don't think we need a DLC to better explain how Xion returned. I think anyone who paid enough attention could figure that out. I would, however, like a few more scenes that build her appearance up better. I didn't like how she just suddenly appeared out of nowhere in the Keyblade Graveyard. I understand they wanted it to be a surprise, but a) we all knew she'd be coming back, and b) they still could have teased her return in a few extra scenes earlier on so that we'd have some foundation for her appearance later.
All that said, I would absolutely LOVE a Roxas-style prologue playing as Young Xehanort, though I would even settle for just a few more flashback scenes of him in Scala ad Caelum spliced inbetween the Mysterious Adversaries battles when Sora, Donald, and Goofy appear there at the end.
It was absolutely a mistake. A
It absolutely was. Especially to put in in a game that already introduced a way to revive characters without using time travel. If Nomura really wanted all these characters back, he could've just claimed everyone's heartless and nobody had been bashed, so they are back in the present timeline. For some, he had already planted Nort seeds which could've been carried over into the revived body and for the unnorted ones he could've just claimed they were still weakened and thus easily overtaken. I really don't see why it had to be time travel and "destiny etched in my heart, yadda yadda". This would also make Young Xehanort obsolete whose purpose was basically to make MX look like a long-time planner (which he still would've been) and to introduce a concept that made a great deal of the fandom feel lost.
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It absolutely was. Especially to put in in a game that already introduced a way to revive characters without using time travel. If Nomura really wanted all these characters back, he could've just claimed everyone's heartless and nobody had been bashed, so they are back in the present timeline. For some, he had already planted Nort seeds which could've been carried over into the revived body and for the unnorted ones he could've just claimed they were still weakened and thus easily overtaken. I really don't see why it had to be time travel and "destiny etched in my heart, yadda yadda". This would also make Young Xehanort obsolete whose purpose was basically to make MX look like a long-time planner (which he still would've been) and to introduce a concept that made a great deal of the fandom feel lost.
Yep. This game pretty much rendered time-traveling useless (at least its introduction in DDD). If Nomura wanted to bring back Ansem and Xemnas, he could have just split Terra's heart from his body, seeing as how the old man ended up returning to his old body.
Although presenting time-travel in DDD pretty much serves like an "intro" to the newer time-traveling mechanic introduced in KHUx with Maleficent.
You don’t have to spoiler guard anymore. This is literally a spoiler thread and it’s after March 1st. Our spoiler ban is over.
So this basically disproves Young Xehanort's assertion in KH3D that "you cannot change the events that are destined to happen" (which I still assume he meant the future)?
Technically, YMX's comments are about the limits of using time travel. What Sora did was completely abuse an entirely different power to the point that it broke reality. Idk, I think some people take YMX's comments to mean "destined events can never, ever, be changed" but he was technically talking specifically about the method of time travel used by him and the Organization (and specifically, the context of traveling to the past). Sora didn't use that method of time travel.
| And this would disprove Young Xehanort's other claim "you can only move forward as per the laws of time" which I interpret as that one can only travel to the future and not the past. |
You interpreted that statement incorrectly. Clearly people can travel to the past otherwise the entire story wouldn't make sense since Ansem travels to the past to tell YMX to do all of this stuff. What Young Xehanort's comment is saying is that if you travel to the past, upon arrival, you can only move forward through time naturally. That is to say, one cannot travel to the past and then immediately travel forward. If you travel to the past, you have to live out the time you traveled. This is further confirmed by Dark Riku in BH6 when he explains that once Ansem had told YMX the plans, he lived out the 60-some years he had traveled back.
Maleficent's dilemma is that she traveled back in time which means she needs to live out the years, she can't just time travel back to the present using the Xehanort method. What Darkness is saying is that there is another way to get back to the present era, which we can guess means crossing worldlines which allows you to reenter a particular worldline at a different time. It's similar to how in the Realm of Sleep real time does not flow and one can enter it at a certain point in time, and leave it and reenter the Realm of Light at a completely different point in time. This isn't the Xehanort Method of Time Travel, but it's a way to jump chronologies without specifically using time travel.
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Maleficent's dilemma is that she traveled back in time which means she needs to live out the years, she can't just time travel back to the present using the Xehanort method. What Darkness is saying is that there is another way to get back to the present era, which we can guess means crossing worldlines which allows you to reenter a particular worldline at a different time. It's similar to how in the Realm of Sleep real time does not flow and one can enter it at a certain point in time, and leave it and reenter the Realm of Light at a completely different point in time. This isn't the Xehanort Method of Time Travel, but it's a way to jump chronologies without specifically using time travel.
So Worldline travel could pretty much be interpreted as manipulating the spatial element? I would suggest this is space-time traveling, but the fact that you don't know at what point in time you're jumping to means that you aren't necessarily traveling through time.
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March 4, 2019 @ 04:51 pmOffline