KH Character Files: Short Stories - Xigbar, Marluxia, Larxene
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- Published on March 2, 2020 @ 05:26 pm
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The next batch of translations from the Kingdom Hearts Series Character Files are short stories for Xigbar, Marluxia and Larxene!
As always, credit goes to goldpanner for the translations!
This is a story from long, long ago...
People lived in peace, bathed in the warmth of light. But then, people began to fight over the light, and as a result everything returned to the void. But...
If you're asking me when this happened, it's an old legend so who knows? I mean, it's possible that this very moment could have been set long, long ago.
You're looking at me like you're pretty lost. Whatever. You don't have to understand it right now. Can't say it wouldn't help, though.
You understand it's dumb to judge a book by its cover, right? Well, maybe we shouldn't judge a box by its color. I mean, is a "Black Box" actually black? What kind of black? Was it ever black at all? These fools are just blindly searching for a box that happens to be black. They don't understand what the Black Box actually is or what's inside, and there's a big difference between "understanding" something and "knowing" it.
Now then. Do you want to know why the box went missing in the first place? Anything else you want to know? Take that offer with a grain of salt. There are limits to what I can say right now. Remember what I said about the difference between "understanding" something and "knowing" it. Plus, there's always the chance that there's a big secret that nobody knows, just like the content of the box. Leave room for surprises.
Question: if I told you the world was going to end tomorrow, what would you do? Would you accept it as inevitable, or would you try to stop it? Remember what I just told you about the Black Box. No one really understands what kind of "black" it is. And what is the end of the world in the first place? No one understands what will actually happen.
Now, remember what happened when the man known as Xemnas opened the door to Kingdom Hearts. When and where did that lead to? For a while now, I've wondered whether this time we're experiencing is really moving forward. Or if time is even going by at all.
Heh, you look like you don't believe me.
But what other explanation is there?
I'm watching over you, like I have this whole time, like I always will. Well, not you. The Keyblade. After all, I'm here to play the role of the fool desirous of the Keyblade's power.
This is Olympus: the world where Sora always goes to ask heroes about hero stuff.
The definition of "hero" changes depending on the world and the era. Same with Keyblade wielders.Now what kind of Keyblade wielder will you become, Sora?
“All this altruism is giving me the warm and fuzzies. So then, does having a heart of light come with an extremely good insurance policy?”
“Just say what you mean,” Sora says, glaring at me.
“Oh, but I did though. No good will ever come from putting other people first.”
“I was able to save Meg's life because I was ready to risk my own,” added the hero standing beside him—Hercules.
I snorted at the two of them. “Because you've got friends in high places, you mean. Tricks like that don't fly for your average joe.”
“What do you know?" says Sora. "You weren't even there! If you were, you'd admire Herc's courage.”
There is a light in his eyes, just like always. He's giving me that look—the one I notice every time.
“I don't admire one guy leaping into danger if it means someone else might have to jump in to save him. You're all just lining up to lose out. Dooming others to take the fall with ya.” How much of my true motives should I let slip? Doesn't matter if you stay in the dark, but I do want you to feel a little hint. Heart, guiding key, you know the one. There are boatloads of people whose altruism led them right into annihilation. “Oh, and you can spare me the usual party line. Yes, hearts are powerful when they're connected. But if you put too much of that power in one place, some of those hearts might end up breaking.”
Just like always, I turn away from Sora after saying my piece. Hm, but maybe it needed a little more oomph. I'm trying to sell the Keyblade-seeking fool, after all. “Still, Sora, that doesn't mean you should change. Accept the power you're given. Find the hearts joined to yours.”
In a way, that's what I'm doing. Joined hearts, guiding hearts—two hearts that are different in the same way.
“Why would I ever take advice from you?”
“As if! You don't have any choice but to follow this sweet little trail of bread crumbs. And at the end, you'll finally realize what destiny has in store for you. In fact, your reward might be right around the corner. You're so close!”
I end it there, and vanish from Sora's sight.
Yes, the end goal seems closer than I'd thought.
Soon I will reunite with my old partners—and my mission will have been a success.
May your heart be your guiding key—
Marluxia Story: Ephemeral Flower
I am on the cusp of reclaiming my identity… My purpose for being…
Before, I had lost everything—even my name—to oblivion. I was filled with unease. I was exactly like Roxas when he first joined the Organization. I did, however, have power.
Ironically, I was put in charge of the castle that ruled memory. I knew it was possible for memories to be lost upon losing flesh and becoming a Nobody. It is why I was eager to lend my hand to the research on memories. I also hoped it could lead to the return of the ones I've lost. Memories rule the heart, the heart is built from memories. A heart with no memories is nothing more than an empty husk. By rearranging chains of memories, you can control people in any way you wish.
I suppose that appointing my amnesiac self as the leader of Castle Oblivion was part of someone's plan. But whose? Well, not that it helps me to know now.
I simply wasn't able to obey Xemnas. I don't understand why. I pretended to follow him, plotting my betrayal all the while. Perhaps it was the vestiges of my heart, still somewhere inside me. Perhaps my heart was guided by the key. I have no clue.
I didn't find out until much later how special that castle was. Castle Oblivion was a sealed land—a place where a hero of the Keyblade slept. Where he slept.
“Soon the emptiness will shatter your heart—here in this world of nothingness!” I declared, facing the hero of the Keyblade. We had manipulated his memories, but he was still here facing me. "The likes of you will never understand our pain!"
The hero ended me, then. I awoke as that man's vessel, and faced him again.
But, once again, I was annihilated. The next time I awaken, I won't be a Nobody.
“Oh… So, now it all comes back to me.” I chuckle self-derisively.
“Hey. Is that a real laugh?” the hero asks.
“Yes… My heart is remembering how to feel,” I reply, touching my chest.
“Really? That's good.”
“And now, I am on the cusp of reclaiming my identity… My purpose for being… Thanks to you, Sora.”
My memories are returning with my heart. A long time ago, Larxene told me that hearts are an inconvenience. Right now I agree—my heart is built of dark feelings. Sadness, pain, hatred—no, that's not all. All emotions are coming back to life inside my heart, even love. Humans—I, now human—feel hatred because of our love. I know this. Darkness exists side by side with the light.
If there were someone out there who could predict the future of this world, I wonder if they would have foretold this outcome. I'm sure they wouldn't be able to accept it. I wasn't able to. Perhaps that is why I became a Nobody. Perhaps not.
What should I do now? What is the right thing to do? Now that I am human, where should I go?
Is my future set in stone, even now? I don't know.
Just as always, I barely know a thing. There is, however, one thing I am sure of: the name of that little flower.
Perhaps I had a weak heart that turned its back on the truth—perhaps I shackled my heart with chains of memories and threw away its freedom.
I lost as I gained, gained as I lost.
But what did I lose? Memories? Or something else? I don't even know that. But, that's fine. I did gain memories. And, I regained these dark feelings.
I was swallowed up by the darkness I took pride in, I've been sinking into an oblivion devoid of light.
But, that's over now too.
I'm taking my real goals to the grave.
What, you think that's too much? What do you expect? Not like I had a heart. Those guys were always yapping about hearts, but to tell you the truth, I didn't care.
But, hm—a heart is such a wishy-washy concept to begin with. You have to be pretty shady to be researching something like that in the first place! It's beyond me. I can't stand know-it-alls in white coats. Not fond of condescending jerks, either. Not a fan of guys who hide one eye. The eyes speak volumes, as they say. I also hate macho muscle-heads! And I hate beardos! They give me chills. Speaking of beardos, I'm not that into con artists either. Don't like the quiet type who swing spears, and I really hate the noisy type who play instruments.
Huh? Well, yeah, I was talking about things I hate—love and hate come from similar places? You're hilarious. Hey, let's see then. Things I like… What do I like—oh look, I don't like anything. I hate everything. So don't go getting any funny ideas about my hatred coming from "special feelings" or anything. I'm only out for number one. Sorry you got used.
Ugh. Not having a heart is way more fun. You can just go about your day without developing special feelings for randos.
Loving things only ends up hurting. That's exactly how we were able to use you, you know. Like, imagine if you couldn't eat your favorite ice cream any more? That would suck, right? So wouldn't it be better not to like it in the first place?
The things I hate the most of all are losing. Being tricked. Not knowing things.
Ugh. I am really not looking forward to being human again. If I knew things would turn out like this I wouldn't have hopped on this train. Not having a heart is way better. I'll lose my excuse.
Excuse for what? Of course I'd never tell you. It's a secret. Why should I tell anyone about the important things in my heart?
The more important a feeling truly is, the deeper you have to shove it down into your heart. Doesn't mean I'll forget.
When my heart is back, it'll mean that important thing inside my heart will be back too. But it's not love, and it's not hate. It's my important thing. And I'm not telling anyone about it. I really hate blabbermouths, you know.
That's why I'm the only one who will ever know!
My secret!
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- Young Xehanort, Terra-Xehanort, Ansem, Xemnas
COMMENTS
Lmao.
My heart bursts with love for Larxene, she's something else. Guess her being my favorite female character isn't changing after all these years if she continues to be different, entertaining, and now rather interesting.
This is much better than YX Ansem and Xemnas. Might be a little obvious that they don't tell us much that we don't already know, but I think it's a nice character study.
Also, what’s up with the characters saying Void??? What is this “void” place?? Terra said something about it, then Van, I also think Ven mentioned it too, and now Luxu?
Xemnas can’t have [SPOILER="G"]shit[/SPOILER] anymore.
Larxene hates "beardos" huh? Just what is a beardo? A man who has a beard?
Oh wait that's Luxord.
Having Marluxia being "exactly like Roxas" when he joined Org. XIII is such a huge ass pointless retcon.
The entire point with why the human Nobodies were special is because they still had their memories, with Roxas and Xion being special from them because they lacked any.
If Marly didn't have any memories either, then that point would have been made. Maybe not in KH2 or Re:CoM, but definitely in Days. This can't be justified with "oh, Axel must have forgotten." Yeah, this guy's totally not going to remember the pink flower floof being a zombie just like Roxas, and not use that to comfort his friends when they get bummed out for not having memories.
There isn't even a point for him to lack memories before joining??? Just pull a Ven, and have amnesiac him gain new memories/personality from living a new life before he became a Nobody, like what I thought he did once this whole UX crap started.
I am probably just an idiot but my mind started whirring excitedly when I read that bit about Xemans opening Kingdom Hearts in Xigbar's story and wish I could play the end of KH2 again right now
Larxene hates "beardos" huh? Just what is a beardo? A man who has a beard?
Having Marluxia being "exactly like Roxas" when he joined Org. XIII is such a huge ass pointless retcon.
The entire point with why the human Nobodies were special is because they still had their memories, with Roxas and Xion being special from them because they lacked any.
If Marly didn't have any memories either, then that point would have been made. Maybe not in KH2 or Re:CoM, but definitely in Days. This can't be justified with "oh, Axel must have forgotten." Yeah, this guy's totally not going to remember the pink flower floof being a zombie just like Roxas, and not use that to comfort his friends when they get bummed out for not having memories.
There isn't even a point for him to lack memories before joining??? Just pull a Ven, and have amnesiac him gain new memories/personality from living a new life before he became a Nobody, like what I thought he did once this whole UX crap started.
It's made worse because they constantly say the Organization act like their human selves via their memories and what they remember of their past lives. But if Marluxia doesn't remember his past where does his personality really come from if not his memories? This retcon wasn't thought out very well.
That retcon still has to be official.
As it stands now, game wise, we don't know much about Marluxia's situation.
For a while now
Holy cow! Just a few days ago I got the idea that the box might work this way, and now we have Luxu giving hints about it.
When Luxu closes the box and gives away the key, time in the data worlds stops. The union leaders were suspended in the box and got to modern timeline that way. This solves the mystery of inconsistent effects of time travel, but replaces it with a new one: How did they get out of the box and why did it mess up their memories so badly?
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Also, what’s up with the characters saying Void??? What is this “void” place?? Terra said something about it, then Van, I also think Ven mentioned it too, and now Luxu?
It is the realm where Sora currently is, that's why it is important.
Holy cow! Just a few days ago I got the idea that the box might work this way, and now we have Luxu giving hints about it.
When Luxu closes the box and gives away the key, time in the data worlds stops. The union leaders were suspended in the box and got to modern timeline that way. This solves the mystery of inconsistent effects of time travel, but replaces it with a new one: How did they get out of the box and why did it mess up their memories so badly?
It is the realm where Sora currently is, that's why it is important.
That was confirmed?
The way I see it, most, if not all of, the rules about the KH universe are in constant flux. I no longer have the energy or intrigue to go into depth with them. Thus, perhaps the Nobody rules were broken for Marluxia and how he woke up. I loved his story because I feel as though I really know something about his character. I love seeing this inner dialogue and him trying to figure out who he is. That he was in a daze when he became a Nobody seems perfectly logical to me. Losing ones heart and becoming a different species and manner of being entirely would logically have a jarring effect on someone.
I've been thoroughly enjoying each of the character stories (Aside the Xemnas and crew ones, they added little to nothing for their characters). Seeing Xigbar have fun messing with Sora, offering false hints, it was terrific. Getting to see the brokenness of Larxene, how she claims to be full of hatred, yet reading between the lines to see how terrified she is, and that becoming a Nobody was a way to protect herself, this is the kind of writing I've always been wanting. The characters are always and beyond all else what has kept me intrigued in the Kingdom Hearts story and these ones deliver.
Thanks for the translations guys!
It's made worse because they constantly say the Organization act like their human selves via their memories and what they remember of their past lives. But if Marluxia doesn't remember his past where does his personality really come from if not his memories? This retcon wasn't thought out very well.
That retcon still has to be official.
As it stands now, game wise, we don't know much about Marluxia's situation.
It would be that he gained new memories and personality over time like how Roxas did, but this doesn't change how every member conveniently forgot about Marluxia's situation when going about "we all have our memories and that makes us speeeeeeeecial."
I hate that! Gaining new memories and personality is Roxas's thing! It's why he is different from Sora. I already wasn't crazy about the Org who came from the age of Fairy Tales and how they are connected to keyblades but this makes me dislike it even more! Stop stripping Roxas of the things that made him special. Grrrrrr!
Really hope elrena gets a big part in the next games. I feel like she already has more of a personality than all of the guardians of light.
Really hope elrena gets a big part in the next games. I feel like she already has more of a personality than all of the guardians of light.
It...wait...
Is this...
Is this something we can actually agree on?
To everyone complaining about the Marluxia "retcon":
These stories are AT BEST secondary canon, though most likely third-tier. So, if there's anything in them that contradicts rules or information set up in the games, you can just disregard them, because these stories are subserviently canon to the games.
Oh these are probably my favorite batch of the stories so far! And I'm not just saying that because I have a bias to loving these three lol. The writing does take some liberties but I personally only see in-game stuff and Ultimania as canon. Still, these were an interesting read and add some depth to these characters. I'm in the same boat that we could always use more Sass Queen Elrena, but I definitely need more Luxu/Braig and Lauriam too lol.
Having Marluxia being "exactly like Roxas" when he joined Org. XIII is such a huge ass pointless retcon.
The entire point with why the human Nobodies were special is because they still had their memories, with Roxas and Xion being special from them because they lacked any.
It's not really a retcon because Marluxia has never spoken about his past before now. We also don't know how long he was around without his memories before he joined the organization so maybe he had time to develop a personality before Axel met him.
I'm more curious what cause him to lose his memories to begin with, because if he is like Roxas wouldn't that mean his original body is out there somewhere? Unless Marluxia's heart was placed inside someone else and that person was split and took Marluxia's appearance, but I doubt they would use the same explanation twice.
I really liked these stories because they were written in character and weren't some pre-school retelling of KH1 through Sora's eyes. I found it interesting how Xemnas opening Kingdom Hearts in KH2 seems to have had some kind of effect, I never even thought about that.
The Marluxia situation is interesting. I don't mind that he seems to have lost his memories when he turned into a nobody, but he didn't seem to even regain them when he was recompleted the first time. What made his memories return the second time he got killed? It seems that he was having memory issues before turning into a nobody the first time around...
Which is curious because Larxene seemed to have actively chosen to get rid of her heart because of some thing very special to her that's buried in there. Maybe Marluxia's memories were planted in Larxene's heart before they became nobodies to hide something? I do love Larxene's "I hate everything" attitude, although hers feels more like she's just annoyed by those things, while the Vanitas speech was way more emo (which I loved).
So about Xigbar's short story...The Fool, was it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fool_(Tarot_card)
The common thing with Marluxia and explaining his lack of memories is that he lost them before he became a Nobody. if Marluxia was like Roxas then I'm curious what was it that gave him his current day personality. With Roxas it was interactions with Axel, did Marluxia need to be babysat too until he gained sentience? How long was Marluxia like that? Because even after Roxas gained his personality there were still many things he didn't know and in contrast Marluxia was not only aware of himself but a evil mastermind in COM.
Even though I hate this, I won't lie a part of me wants to see zombie Marluxia on his first mission opening a chest and getting a ice cream bar afterwords.
Idk, Marluxia's story doesn't say he had no memories specifically when he joined the Organization, just that that was the case at some point in his life. He likely wandered about, made new memories and formed a new identity by the time he became a Nobody and was recruited by Luxubar.
Also, can someone explain why you're all suddenly so mad about him not having memories? I thought we all understood this when we played KH3. Hell of a delayed reaction, guys.
Idk, Marluxia's story doesn't say he had no memories specifically when he joined the Organization, just that that was the case at some point in his life. He likely wandered about, made new memories and formed a new identity by the time he became a Nobody and was recruited by Luxubar.
Also, can someone explain why you're all suddenly so mad about him not having memories? I thought we all understood this when we played KH3. Hell of a delayed reaction, guys.
It's probably being misunderstood then.
Maybe he is talking about his past before becoming a Nobody. We know the Daybreak Town crew have no memories of their time way back when. But it depends when they jumped timelines. If it's at the current ages in KHUx, then they had a good while to readjust with amnesia.
Also, can someone explain why you're all suddenly so mad about him not having memories? I thought we all understood this when we played KH3. Hell of a delayed reaction, guys.
EDIT: Unless Marluxia is actually referring to Roxas in that one line, but the context of the story implies he's referring to himself.
It isn't about him not having memories, but how it's explaining his memory loss of the Chi-era by being a result of becoming a Nobody, which contradicts what makes the human Nobodies different, and also that it's explaining why he didn't regain his memories after his first defeat was because he didn't recomplete the first time. When he could have simply just had amnesia after being sent through time, like what happened with Ven and Subject X. Instead, it's pointlessly going out of it's way to explain something by retconning well established lore.
EDIT: Unless Marluxia is actually referring to Roxas in that one line, but the context of the story implies he's referring to himself.
There's nothing in his story that says his memory loss is caused by becoming a Nobody.
There's also nothing that says he didn't recomplete the first time around. If anything, it suggested that he was found and turned back into a Nobody before he had the chance to wake up post-recompletion.
Also, can someone explain why you're all suddenly so mad about him not having memories? I thought we all understood this when we played KH3. Hell of a delayed reaction, guys.
I don't know about anybody else, but I've been complaining about this all 2019 that I didn't like what they were doing with members 9-12 of the Organization. From them being ancient Keyblade Wielders, to that being the reason Xemnas selected them for the original Org, to retconning how Nobodies memories work even though the games pounded it in your skull that all Nobodies minus Roxas remember their past lives and that they borrow their memories to build their personalities as Nobodies and "pretend" to act human. But for these new KHUX stuff to work with them now Marluxia has to have amnesia as well, something that was suppose to be unusual and unheard of for Nobodies minus Roxas and possibly Xemnas. I don't hate that they gave Marluxia in actual life outside being a villain, I mean that's great, but I don't like that it's contradicting what the story has told us so far though on the Nobodies. To be fair I don't find the Nobodies nearly as interesting as before DDD but now even Roxas's situation doesn't feel unique anymore.
There's nothing in his story that says his memory loss is caused by becoming a Nobody.
"I knew it was possible for memories to be lost upon losing flesh and becoming a Nobody."
The context of the story leans toward Marluxia talking about himself, but like I said in my last post, he's probably talking about Roxas and I just got confused.
| There's also nothing that says he didn't recomplete the first time around. If anything, it suggested that he was found and turned back into a Nobody before he had the chance to wake up post-recompletion. |
Now, remember what happened when the man known as Xemnas opened the door to Kingdom Hearts. When and where did that lead to? For a while now, I've wondered whether this time we're experiencing is really moving forward. Or if time is even going by at all.
Thinking about it, this reminds me of something in DDD. That message spelled out during the final credits : 'This leads to kingdom hearts', followed by a shot of Riku and Sora walking together into a panel of light, like the Door to Light at the end lf KH2. This seems to make a 'III', making the message a teaser for KH3 but maybe it could be a little more?
Even with Larxene now gone, she still hasn’t lost any of that assholish attitude... and I love it.
Marluxia and Xigbar’s story was decent too.
Even with Larxene now gone, she still hasn’t lost any of that assholish attitude... and I love it.
Marluxia and Xigbar’s story was decent too.
Even in UX, her own chirithy hints at it "You're not usually nice" meaning usually she's a bitch .
also, surprised nobody drops Persona joke with Xigbar's story title.
The Marluxia situation is interesting. I don't mind that he seems to have lost his memories when he turned into a nobody, but he didn't seem to even regain them when he was recompleted the first time. What made his memories return the second time he got killed? It seems that he was having memory issues before turning into a nobody the first time around...
Maybe it's kinda a Xion/ Roxas thing and someone or something had those memories, stopping them from going back to Lauriam/ Marluxia? As example if Dark Inferno was Ephemers heartless (Sora defeats it in remind following Epehemer appearing in the other timeline?) and he somehow got Lauriams memories (after Lauriam lost his heart?) it just wouldn't have been possible until after Dark Inferno (or whoever had them) was destroyed and the memories became free.
The common thing with Marluxia and explaining his lack of memories is that he lost them before he became a Nobody. if Marluxia was like Roxas then I'm curious what was it that gave him his current day personality. With Roxas it was interactions with Axel, did Marluxia need to be babysat too until he gained sentience? How long was Marluxia like that? Because even after Roxas gained his personality there were still many things he didn't know and in contrast Marluxia was not only aware of himself but a evil mastermind in COM.
It was a little bit explained in the story. Marluxia was a traitor towards Xemnas, because he just couldn't be loyal to him. It could be, that he couldn't because he saw him as evil and as someone who his old self would have never worked under willingly. Marluxia wasn't aware of this, but he knew he had to do this. That he tried to do these things as he did was probably a result of him not having memories, having no heart (and so no possibility to feel bad for what he does) and a target he wants to get rid of (Xemnas). A comparison could be made to Lingering Will. It had just one goal in mind too (stopping Xehanort), but other than Marluxia it had still it's memories and so a part of Terras personality. Take those away and we could have a LW who would kill Xehanort if he had the choice between doing it and rescuing someone.
Kanemaki: How much Chain of Memories call back do you want?
Marluxia: yes
Kanemaki: Ok gotchu fam enjoy your Pain of Memories
I'm hoping they'll have one on Demyx and Luxord have one, too. These are really good!
I'm hoping they'll have one on Demyx and Luxord have one, too. These are really good!
If they do get ones I'm really looking forward to Luxord's. Especially if It hints at his connection with Yozora
Maybe it's kinda a Xion/ Roxas thing and someone or something had those memories, stopping them from going back to Lauriam/ Marluxia? As example if Dark Inferno was Ephemers heartless (Sora defeats it in remind following Epehemer appearing in the other timeline?) and he somehow got Lauriams memories (after Lauriam lost his heart?) it just wouldn't have been possible until after Dark Inferno (or whoever had them) was destroyed and the memories became free.
It was a little bit explained in the story. Marluxia was a traitor towards Xemnas, because he just couldn't be loyal to him. It could be, that he couldn't because he saw him as evil and as someone who his old self would have never worked under willingly. Marluxia wasn't aware of this, but he knew he had to do this. That he tried to do these things as he did was probably a result of him not having memories, having no heart (and so no possibility to feel bad for what he does) and a target he wants to get rid of (Xemnas). A comparison could be made to Lingering Will. It had just one goal in mind too (stopping Xehanort), but other than Marluxia it had still it's memories and so a part of Terras personality. Take those away and we could have a LW who would kill Xehanort if he had the choice between doing it and rescuing someone.
Marluxia mentioned having a memory of a flower. I feel like that's either his dead sister OR Elrena. Speaking of Elrena, the way that she comes off about not wanting her heart makes me think that she buried Lauriam's memories in her heart like some kind of secret. It really seems like they're on a mission together, I just wish we got more.
Marluxia mentioned having a memory of a flower. I feel like that's either his dead sister OR Elrena. Speaking of Elrena, the way that she comes off about not wanting her heart makes me think that she buried Lauriam's memories in her heart like some kind of secret. It really seems like they're on a mission together, I just wish we got more.
This character files was written by Kanemaki, and the novel flat out had him monologue "My little flower, Strelitzia". It HAS to be Strelitzia. Helps that as far as Lauriam has been shown, he's consistently shown to only truly cares for Strelitzia.
*kicks table over*
What I should really be complaining about is Marluxia's reason for betraying Xemnas in the story here is "i dunno lol".
Like, seriously?! That's so dumb.
I checked out on the plot quite some time ago but man I don't even feel like it's worth caring about these characters anymore now either xD
*kicks table over*
What I should really be complaining about is Marluxia's reason for betraying Xemnas in the story here is "i dunno lol".
Like, seriously?! That's so dumb.
I think you'll find he was guided by the heart he didn't have. Simple, really
*kicks table over*
What I should really be complaining about is Marluxia's reason for betraying Xemnas in the story here is "i dunno lol".
Like, seriously?! That's so dumb.
Wasn't Marluxia's reason for betrayal in the games something along the lines of wanting the keyblade's power for his own?
Before, I had lost everything—even my name—to oblivion. I was filled with unease. I was exactly like Roxas when he first joined the Organization. I did, however, have power.
Most people seem to be interpreting this as Marluxia losing his memory right when he joined the Organization, but I am pretty sure the use of before means before even that time. Meaning whenever he emerged from the past he lost his memories, then became a nobody. It seems everyone from the past lost their memories, Ventus, Subject X, Lauriam, and Elrena.
If there were someone out there who could predict the future of this world, I wonder if they would have foretold this outcome. I'm sure they wouldn't be able to accept it. I wasn't able to. Perhaps that is why I became a Nobody. Perhaps not.
From this line I get the feeling Lauriam willingly gave up his heart because he couldn't bear to live with the pain of losing his sister (which is pretty dark). There have been several hints that Elrena has a bit of a crush on Lauriam, and I get the feeling she gave up her heart to be with him(or not have to live with the heartbreak) as well all Romeo and Juliet style.
I suppose that appointing my amnesiac self as the leader of Castle Oblivion was part of someone's plan. But whose? Well, not that it helps me to know now.
I really like how this line brings reason to why Xemnas would give Marluxia control of CO, since to me it always seemed very random and illogical. Knowing now that he had knowledge on the ancient keyblade wielders who traveled through time, and that he was actively hunting down Ventus, it makes sense he would place both Marluxia and Larxene in CO to see if their connection to Ven could be used to his advantage. Of course this plan fell through when they decided to betray him.
I lost as I gained, gained as I lost.
Love the callback. Overall I really like how Marluxia's story adds to the greater picture without giving anything significant away.
I suppose that appointing my amnesiac self as the leader of Castle Oblivion was part of someone's plan. But whose? Well, not that it helps me to know now.
Hmmm. Curious...
I simply wasn't able to obey Xemnas. I don't understand why. I pretended to follow him, plotting my betrayal all the while. Perhaps it was the vestiges of my heart, still somewhere inside me. Perhaps my heart was guided by the key. I have no clue.
AND CURIOUSER.
Larxene Story: Wise Up! Girl!
Larxene I love you so much. Tell us mooooore.
Most people seem to be interpreting this as Marluxia losing his memory right when he joined the Organization, but I am pretty sure the use of before means before even that time. Meaning whenever he emerged from the past he lost his memories, then became a nobody. It seems everyone from the past lost their memories, Ventus, Subject X, Lauriam, and Elrena.
From this line I get the feeling Lauriam willingly gave up his heart because he couldn't bear to live with the pain of losing his sister (which is pretty dark). There have been several hints that Elrena has a bit of a crush on Lauriam, and I get the feeling she gave up her heart to be with him(or not have to live with the heartbreak) as well all Romeo and Juliet style.
I really like how this line brings reason to why Xemnas would give Marluxia control of CO, since to me it always seemed very random and illogical. Knowing now that he had knowledge on the ancient keyblade wielders who traveled through time, and that he was actively hunting down Ventus, it makes sense he would place both Marluxia and Larxene in CO to see if their connection to Ven could be used to his advantage. Of course this plan fell through when they decided to betray him.
Love the callback. Overall I really like how Marluxia's story adds to the greater picture without giving anything significant away.
Certainly, it sounds like the method to time travel is what caused the memory loss, not the becoming Nobody process, because as you say, Subjext X and Ventus is also amnesiac, and we know other Nobodies still have their memories. Which actually raised another question. We know Luxu is the one who hides Subject X. He is also pays some attention to Ventus. Lastly, Xigbar is the one who recruited Marluxia to the Organization. If he is paying attention to them to watch them not to straighten the twisted history, why would he let Marluxia go to CO? That place is about memory manipulation, what if he regained his memory even back then? Or is there any other reason why did he watched them?Why didn't he kill them if he wants them to stay silent ?
Is it possible that he actually commits suicide with his keyblade? A shinigami that become one due to suicide, and also lost human memories... hmmm, I wonder if Nomura take that cue from Fullmoon wo Sagashite.
Speaking of which, well, the implication that Ven(or maybe whatever possessing him at the time) is the one who kill Strel is getting stronger, isn't it? What other reason for him to look for Ven oh so actively, when Strel takes up most of his braincell?
From his awareness of the fact he was sent to CO due to someone else's ploy, and about "the future that should never been", that and his inability to obey Xemnas... PTSD from obeying shady higher up? Is he aware of the conspiracy from the UX era and has PTSD from it?
I am probably just an idiot but my mind started whirring excitedly when I read that bit about Xemans opening Kingdom Hearts in Xigbar's story and wish I could play the end of KH2 again right now
In both examples of a "door" opening to Kingdom Hearts, in KH1 and KH2, the realm of darkness is on the other side.
KH1 ending
KH2 door to Kingdom Hearts Summoned
KH2 after defeating Xemnas (inside the door)
/tinfoil hat time
Speculating here, but I think what we're supposed to understand about Kingdom Hearts is that it was corrupted by darkness some time ago. I think we're shown this in KH3 when Xehanort summons Kingdom Hearts and calls upon its "true form" and it then turns dark. If I had to guess, I'd say that MoM is trying to restore Kingdom Hearts to its original form. When he says, in remind he's planning for the world's destruction, I think he means that. In back cover he says that we shouldn't worry about trying to prevent the end of the world, but to focus on what comes after. I think he's trying to create a new Kingdom Hearts, by replicating the conditions at the beginning of time when Kingdom Hearts first formed. This is basically what Xehanort said he was trying to do at the end of KH3, although Xehanort said he wanted to build a new world, not build a new Kingdom Hearts.
/tinfoil hat time
My favourite time!
Your idea is clever, and it would be a cool twist if Kingdom Hearts were a 'false light'. Plus there have been a few references to the flow of time being different in the realm of darknesses and that would chime with what Xigbar says next about whether time is moving forward. Glancing at those videos I can't believe I forgot how trippy the final battles of KH2 are. I can't wait to look at them more closely and come up with more crazy ideas.
I think you'll find he was guided by the heart he didn't have. Simple, really
Wasn't Marluxia's reason for betrayal in the games something along the lines of wanting the keyblade's power for his own?
I forget who said it here, but I would also like to add, the prospect of Marluxia's motive for rebelling, which we never really knew, being that deep down he was actually a good boi, who forgot he was a good boi, but still subconsciously recognized Xemnas as a villain and couldn't help but act against him, all while changing into a manipulative sociopath himself, is pretty damn interesting.
And then someone else said this one, but the idea that Xemnas sent him to CO because he knows about UX and thought Marluxia's past connection to Ven might help locate him, would be a madly genius retcon.
Wasn't Marluxia's reason for betrayal in the games something along the lines of wanting the keyblade's power for his own?
Yes.
And to take control of the Organization.
But you know, Nomura retconned that with KHUx.
Yes.
And to take control of the Organization.
But you know, Nomura retconned that with KHUx.
Well we don't know if it is totally changed, it could still be valid, but now ironic.
Yes.
And to take control of the Organization.
But you know, Nomura retconned that with KHUx.
I don't see what's so problematic with Lauriam being from KHUX. Nomura basically swept away any inconsistencies by having MARLUXIA in the Organization, not Lauriam, and on top of all of that MARLUXIA had memory issues. The way I see it, Marluxia was acting just like Ansem SoD/Xemnas were -- they were amnesiacs, but had a deep-seated desire. We don't know what Marluxia's desire was beyond getting control of the keyblade and taking over the Organization. Ansem was assembling the 7 PoH to open the Door To Darkness and Xemnas was gathering hearts/nobodies; their actions weren't because Master Xehanort told them to, but because they did it on their own.
Lauriam being a good guy (I guess, I can't play KHUX), doesn't instantly ruin what Marluxia did. Remember that Marluxia doesn't have a heart, or at the very least, a heart has barely begun to develop. It's clear that Marluxia was acting on some memory buried deep down because he was working with Larxene (Elrena) and kept Axel (associated with Girl X) around, which ties back to Lauriam's life somewhat.
This whole ties back to the problem of adding things on a saga closer.
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I really like how this line brings reason to why Xemnas would give Marluxia control of CO, since to me it always seemed very random and illogical. Knowing now that he had knowledge on the ancient keyblade wielders who traveled through time, and that he was actively hunting down Ventus, it makes sense he would place both Marluxia and Larxene in CO to see if their connection to Ven could be used to his advantage. Of course this plan fell through when they decided to betray him.
This was the reasoning Nomura gave in the Character Reports, released December 2006. It's pretty interesting to think about :
| When you consider how he was entrusted with Castle Oblivion despite being Number 11 of the Organisation, you can tell just what a cunning character he is. I wasn't able to show this to you, but I'm sure you can imagine how he played the perfect 'can-do man' in front of Xemnas. He's quite the actor. |
That bit about him being quite the actor is interesting because:
I pretended to follow him, plotting my betrayal all the while.
Does seem like something an "actor" would do lol
Also I'm surprised no one has commented on Marly's story being called EPHEMERal flower... a possible hint or just a cute little tie in?
Another thing I wanted to mention:
His whole piece on his heart being full of rage and sadness with a longing for possibly vengeance makes me feel like Lauriam probably HATES Ventus.. With what we know right know, Ventus replaced his sister and I can definitely see Lauriam taking that revelation the wrong way.. I looove the drama!!!
That bit about him being quite the actor is interesting because:
Does seem like something an "actor" would do lol
Also I'm surprised no one has commented on Marly's story being called EPHEMERal flower... a possible hint or just a cute little tie in?
Another thing I wanted to mention:
His whole piece on his heart being full of rage and sadness with a longing for possibly vengeance makes me feel like Lauriam probably HATES Ventus.. With what we know right know, Ventus replaced his sister and I can definitely see Lauriam taking that revelation the wrong way.. I looove the drama!!!
OMG YES PLEASE! MORE MELODRAMA! KH needs to seriously up the drama between characters (this is why I love Roxas/Xion lol)! I want to see Lauriam hate Ven, Larxene pining over Lauriam, Vanitas being emo AF while turning into a good guy, Roxas/Riku feuding over who can save Sora, Namine/Riku relationship drama, and more!
OMG YES PLEASE! MORE MELODRAMA! KH needs to seriously up the drama between characters (this is why I love Roxas/Xion lol)! I want to see Lauriam hate Ven, Larxene pining over Lauriam, Vanitas being emo AF while turning into a good guy, Roxas/Riku feuding over who can save Sora, Namine/Riku relationship drama, and more!
Actually, since our suspects are already down to Skuld and Ven, and Skuld is likely to be Subject X, whoever the culprit is , we're guaranteed to get the drama-if it's Skuld/Subject X, Lauriam has to get past Lea and Isa. If it's Ven, he has to get past Aqua and Terra. Which I'm fine with either, but Ven would cause more shock value bc he has been dubbed as pure and innocent before the Vanitas split many times.And knowing Nomura, well....
Also, remembering your past, including you had a sibling before you die as a non-human? If this is Kimetsu No Yaiba we'd get 5 minutes of the actual flashback lmao.
This whole ties back to the problem of adding things on a saga closer.
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Actually, since our suspects are already down to Skuld and Ven, and Skuld is likely to be Subject X, whoever the culprit is , we're guaranteed to get the drama-if it's Skuld/Subject X, Lauriam has to get past Lea and Isa. If it's Ven, he has to get past Aqua and Terra. Which I'm fine with either, but Ven would cause more shock value bc he has been dubbed as pure and innocent before the Vanitas split many times.And knowing Nomura, well....
Also, remembering your past, including you had a sibling before you die as a non-human? If this is Kimetsu No Yaiba we'd get 5 minutes of the actual flashback lmao.
Yay! If there's one thing I'm hoping KHUX brings into future KH games is more drama like this! I love betrayals, shocking reveals, and fighting amongst friends!
Having Marluxia being "exactly like Roxas" when he joined Org. XIII is such a huge ass pointless retcon.
The entire point with why the human Nobodies were special is because they still had their memories, with Roxas and Xion being special from them because they lacked any.
If Marly didn't have any memories either, then that point would have been made. Maybe not in KH2 or Re:CoM, but definitely in Days. This can't be justified with "oh, Axel must have forgotten." Yeah, this guy's totally not going to remember the pink flower floof being a zombie just like Roxas, and not use that to comfort his friends when they get bummed out for not having memories.
There isn't even a point for him to lack memories before joining??? Just pull a Ven, and have amnesiac him gain new memories/personality from living a new life before he became a Nobody, like what I thought he did once this whole UX crap started.
It does make sense because Marluxia, Larxene, Luxord and Demyx don't remember their past lives.
Also, we don't know how long Marluxia has been in the Organization. He was probably there long enough to start figuring out that Xemnas didn't have the Organization's interests in mind. I get the idea something happens to Lauriam to make him more like Marluxia and Marluxia is acting based on those subconscious memories. I get the idea Marluxia kept having no memories to himself. The same for Larxene, Luxord and Demyx because they don't remember who they were either. He was probably only like Roxas in having no memories.
Um...a-are Larxene and Vanitas okay? The “I hate everything” thing ? T for therapy.
Larxene: I hate everything
Vanitas: I hate everything
Larxene and Vanitas: I hate that you hate everything
You can tell that these two can have a very hating relationship together lol
Yes.
And to take control of the Organization.
But you know, Nomura retconned that with KHUx.
It's a retcon that surprisingly works. As a nobody, Marluxia had no recollection of his past life so for him to seek the very thing that defined him in his past life is poetic irony.
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