Famitsu's D23 Expo Japan 2018 Recap
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- Published on February 21, 2018 @ 04:52 pm
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The latest issue of Famitsu includes a recap of the biggest KINGDOM HEARTS III updates from D23 Expo Japan 2018. While this recap obviously may not contain any new information, it could help clarify some details such as the nature of Marluxia's involvement in Organization XIII or how the new Link system works.
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Kingdom Hearts 3 news revelation! The latest news from the festival for Disney fans, “D23 Expo Japan 2018”
Among the dozens of events held at “D23 Expo Japan 2018”, the “Kingdom Hearts Premium Theatre 2018” event shed much new light on Kingdom Hearts 3 (KH3) in the form of various mysterious scenes and the introduction of a new world. Among this, we see King Mickey (a guardian of the worlds) and Riku (Sora’s best friend) in new outfits, as well as a brand new Keyblade in the former’s hand.
(Photo of Utada Hikaru)
The theme song for this title has been decided as Utada Hikaru’s new “Chikai”.
“Chikai” is the 3rd song Utada Hikaru has written for the Kingdom Hearts series, following “Hikari” and “Passion”.From the Dark Margin to the Way to Dawn
(Large gold text, pg 40)(Upper left screenshots of Riku & King Mickey at Dark Margin)
Appearing countless times in the series as the stage for many important scenes, the Dark Margin. Could it be that they’ve come to search for her, the Keyblade Master?(Screenshot of Riku looking at Way to Dawn)
“I’ll leave this here, for the other me”, Riku says, holding his broken Keyblade. How did the Keyblade get into that state? And who is this “other Riku”?-The revival of the one thought to have withered away, Marluxia.
(Bottom right, to the right of Marly’s head)-In place of the “Old” Organization XIII, blocking Sora’s path in KH3 is the “True” Organization XIII.
Despite being defeated by Sora while apart of the Old Organization, Marluxia appears to also be a part of the new one? As for the reason for his revival, and whether his goals match with those of the True Organization XIII’s leader, Master Xehanort, all remain a mystery.(Bottom right, below Marly)
After defeating Marluxia and his gang, who were all members of the Old Organization, Sora had his memory restored so he doesn’t remember them. In KH3, although Marluxia’s words suggest a reunion, Sora doubts having ever met him.<The Graceful Assassin, Marluxia>
(Bottom of page, text on Marluxia)In “Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories”, using his position of power Marluxia attempts to overthrow the Organization XIII, however is stopped in his tracks when defeated by Sora.
Additionally, in the series’ oldest story to date, “Kingdom Hearts Union Cross”, we encounter a figure named “Lauriam” who bears a striking resemblance to Marluxia.
-Welcome to Monsters, Inc. where we only recruit the best!
(Large gold text)Monsters, Inc., one of Pixar’s largest feature animation films makes its way into the Kingdom Hearts series! Sora and friends have had their appearances transformed to those of cute but repulsing(!?) monsters. Characters from the original film, Mikey, Sulley, Boo and others will of course also be making appearances!
-Commotion within the Monsters, Inc. headquarters!
In the original movie, Monstes, Inc. is a giant company who purposely scare human children in order to exchange their screams for energy. Stumbling into this world of diverse monsters, Sora and friends encounter Mike and Sulley, who they mistake to be bullying a small human girl.Sulley
In the original film, Sulley is Monsters, Inc.’s pride, ranked number one as the “scaring star”. By nature he is very gentle, and everyone aspires to be like him.Mike
A bit of a birdbrain who really likes to talk, and Sulley’s best friend. He’s also Sulley’s capable assistant, supporting him in his work. He’s a fairly stubborn fellow, but a good guy overall.Boo
A young human girl who unfortunately found her way to the monsters’ world. She’s still not able to speak, however she can in some way or another utter some simple words.(Screenshot of Sora using Assault Claws next to Sulley)
Upon fulfilling the right conditions, in the midst of battle you’ll be able to change “Form”, which involves the modification of usable attacks, abilities and wardrobe. When Sora changes form in this (Monsters, Inc.) world, his body colour will change.The key to the story lies within the power of children?
(Bottom of page 42, small text)In the top left corner of some screenshots we can see a small icon of a face accompanied by a gauge labelled “LAUGH POWER”. While it’s been said that the screams of horrified children are able to generate energy, in reality it’s not only those screams that can do it. The power of a laugh is also able to generate huge energy. Perhaps the act of entertaining Boo, making her cry out in laughter, will be useful within battle?
(Upper page 43, screenshot of Sora sliding on a rail)
As seen in the original film, we can see the warehouse which stores the huge amount of doors linked to children’s rooms in the human world. In this segment we can see Sora sliding on one of the rails, with the command “Take Cover” available, which appears to be a gimmick that allows Sora to hide himself from enemies.(Bottom page 43, screenshot of what seems to be yoyo Keyblade transformation finisher)
As one of the transformations, the Keyblade is able to morph into twin yoyos, both bearing the logo of the Monsters, Inc. corporation. The yoyos can transform into giant monsters(!?), and chew away at enemies as their finisher move! Exciting!-Vanitas also revived!?
(Screenshot of Vanitas)Vanitas appeared in Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep as one of the leading characters in relation to plot. He has a very deep connection to Ventus, but was defeated within the same game. In KH3, he appears to be clad within a black coat, indicating that perhaps he is part of the True Organization XIII? Having seemed to have sniffed out the existence of Ventus within Sora, he approaches him and……?
Vanitas’ revival, an omen from KH3D?
(Small text, bottom of pg 43)Vanitas was defeated in Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep (KHBBS), however, following on from KHBBS he is seen in KH3D for a brief moment, appearing as a sort of phantom or illusion besides a young man in a black coat. Considering who this young man is, could it be that Vanitas’ revival was already foreshadowed!?
The birth of strength through the bonds shared between connected hearts.
(Large gold Text, top of 44)(Screenshot of Sora, Mike, Sulley, Donald, Goofy pulling “scary” faces)
Combining forces with all your friends, Link Attacks have also been prepared for use. In the trailer, we see Sora grab Mike, who shouts “What are you doing!?”, and throws him like a bowling ball toward enemies who seem to be lined up like pins.(Screenshot of Sora and co. running on netted steel)
Together with Sora, Donald and Goofy, Mike and Sulley also join the fray! This confirms that in other worlds also, you will be able to join up with 2 other party members. Battles with 5 party members are now a reality!(Screenshot of Sora, Woody and Buzz riding a rocket)
In the Toy Story World, Buzz and Woody join Sora in battle as party members. After clumsily whirling up in the air, the rocket with Sora, Woody and Buzz aims directly at an enemy and heads straight for it, dealing damage amidst a huge explosion!As for travelling between worlds? Of course, the Gummi Ship returns
(Bottom of page 44, small text)While embarking off to each world, you will be able to control and play a shooting style game with the Gummi Ship. In KH3, you will be able to control the Gummi Ship in all fields of motion, and fly freely among space while fighting large numbers of enemies. Additionally, the flying segments are split into two phases: Battle and Searching Phase. Perhaps there’ll also be the possibility to fly out searching for items?
The friends that stride with Sora
(Large gold text, pg 45)Joining the True Organization XIII, Marluxia and Vanitas pose a huge threat. However, within Sora lie the connections he has formed with the friends he has met in his journeys, as well as with the ones of the journeys yet to come. Let’s take a closer look at the battle scenes of each world, and see these dashing friends performing their well coordinated Link Attacks with Sora.
(top of 45, screenshot of Rapunzel swinging on tree)
Rapunzel wraps her long hair around a tree and whirls around it, sweeping away all her enemies. If you look at the bottom right corner of the screenshot, you can see that in the Kingdom of Corona you will also be able to team up with Flynn!(top of 45, image of tower and light beams shooting out)
As well as Link Attacks, special attention should also be put into the Keyblade transformations! In the Kingdom of Corona, you will be able to obtain a Keyblade that will transform into the tower itself as its finisher!(Picture of Sora riding Meow Wow)
Beginning with Meow Wow, the Dream Eaters that made their appearances in KH3D all gather around Sora! Could it be that upon visiting them all at the end of KH3D, Sora gained this new power!?-The summoning of trustworthy friends by “Link”
(Image of Sora and Ariel having some finny fun)Appearing in Birth By Sleep in the form of the “Dimension Link”, the “Link System” in KH3 is a similar idea where you are able to lend upon the power of your friends afar. Upon fulfilling certain requirements, those who have connected with Sora’s heart, like Ariel and Meow Wow, will make a temporary appearance on screen, bringing all sorts of bonuses and effects.
-KH Union Cross: The connection with KH3
(small text, bottom of pg 45)From February 23rd, a collaboration between “Kingdom Hearts Union Cross (KHUX)” and “Final Fantasy Record Keeper” will begin. Furthermore, brand new worlds to the series will be making their debut within KHUX, and the story will become more closely connected to KH3, so keep your eyes peeled! “A special sort of gift for linking KH3 and KHUX” is also under consideration.
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From my meager japanese skills I think it says Marluxia is indeed part of the real Organization XIII. I could be wrong though.
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Yeah... As i thought... I THINK we will only get news info on the PAX East/Union Cross Event lol
I do hope this clarifies some stuff to us tho
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No idea why people thought Marluxia wasn't in the Organization.
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No idea why people thought Marluxia wasn't in the Organization.
I was asking myself the same question
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No idea why people thought Marluxia wasn't in the Organization.
It was mostly because he didn't have gold eyes or pointy ears like the others. And the fact that he was in the "weakness of trust" category.
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Even as one who believes rather strongly he will be a member of the New/True Organization, I can still understand that there are good reasons some might be not so sure. Yes, the hair and eyes for one and the "weakness of trust" quotes always throw things into shaky ground. Additionally, the fact that he seems to still control Nobodies and the wording used in the (perhaps sloppy) English translation of the trailer leads a few to think perhaps he is representing an "Organization Classic" of sorts that keeps itself distinct from the Seekers of Darkness but itself claims to be the "True Organization," like a faction split.
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It was mostly because he didn't have gold eyes or pointy ears like the others. And the fact that he was in the "weakness of trust" category.
This as well as the very ambiguous English translation which made him say "the only Organization". With the missing body features, it wasn't too far off to argue that a) he could still believe the old Organization to be a thing, b) be a part of a totally different Organization yet to be revealed (especially in combination with KHUX's story) or c) strangely referring to the new Organization as "the only" one.
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No idea why people thought Marluxia wasn't in the Organization.
Aside from the ears and his eyes, the English translations could infer that he is a part of the “only†Organization that he cares for - his own that he would have gotten if he was successful at overthrowing Xemnas.
Young Xehanort also talks about how various members of the Organization were unfit for the task of carrying Xehanort’s heart. A traitor should surely be at the top of that list. Now we don’t even know why Marluxia was overthrowing the man whose Heart he carries.
If it was translated as “I am Marluxia, of the true Organization†or “I am Marluxia, of the new Organization†then there wouldn’t be this confusion. But the use of “only†introduces a new position - Marluxia is forming his own group or he only recognises the Organization from CoM and II as the only Organization.
As many have pointed out, the Japanese dialogue infers that Marluxia is a part of the true Organization, so it makes one wonder why the sentence was translated into English in the way that it was instead of something a bit more direct and in line with the Japanese dialogue.
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I just think it'd be weird if Marluxia is part of the new organization. Team 'Nort thought he was untrustworthy. That is a legitimate concern founded on the fact that Marluxia betrayed the original organization. However, now they let him join? Either they have confidence that they can control him through a piece of Xehanort's heart or they got desperate after they lost Sora.
I just want to know why would Xehanort, a man who can plan for anything, pick the likeliest person to betray them? Because Marluxia is not a team player. He's always had his eyes at the top and now I'm supposed to believe he's going to obey Xehanort? Or are they going to ruin his character by taking away his scheming personality and have him loyally fight for New Org 13 until the end? So either it's going to be predictable and Marluxia betrays the Organization again or they go against this character's established background and make him another Xehanort puppet.
Now I'm curious if Xehanort is planning on Marluxia betraying them again or if his confidence finally caught himself in a stupid mistake. Anyway that's why I hope he's not in the new Organization.
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It was mostly because he didn't have gold eyes or pointy ears like the others. And the fact that he was in the "weakness of trust" category.
That can have multiple reasons though including the most obvious one that a) he's from the past via time travel or b) has not a high level of "nortification" yet.
Xaldin also had blue eyes yet the pointy ears while Zexion was considered fit for the position of second in command by Xemnas (hence why Saix send him to C.O. and tasked Axel with taking him out so he wouldn't be an obstacle) yet he never displayed any physical "Nort"-traits.
No offense intended, but to be completely honest I consider the whole reliance on Xemnas' babbling in DDD to be outdated and frankly, misplaced.
First off do neither Sora nor we know in which context Xemnas lists off those categories, it's all only fan interpretation by people who think they deduced what it means when in reality Xemnas (and Xehanort) could mean something entirely different when listing these categories for "unfit members".
To use an easy example, who says that "weakness of trust" has to strictly mean the traitors and/or about Xehanort's/Xemnas' trust in them or their trust in Xehanort/Xemnas. Strictly spoken Saix fits this interpretation of "weakness of trust" to a T and yet look where he is.
"Weakness of trust" could also mean lack of trust in Xemnas words and promises (i.e. not eating the propaganda about that one can't feel and not gain a heart anywhere except the way Xemnas propagates) and thus becoming unfit due to developing a heart and possible connections with others which could undermine Xemnas'Xehanort's influence. Would also fit with the "cult"-imagery of the Organisation.
Or it could mean "weakness of trust" in the Darkness and the methods the Organisation uses to reach their goals despite all outward loyalty. There are more possible contextual reasons as to what this assessment could mean from Xehanort's and Xemnas' viewpoint, but I don't want to make yet another essay out of it.
Secondly it is highly probable that Xemnas was speaking only for the first Organisation as a whole, there is no evidence that the same criteria are in place for the second Organisation, not only because it is now Master Nort sitting in the CEO-seat/[strike]being the cult-guru[/strike] but also because with the No Name Keyblade being fully available again + time travel + Nort possessionâ„¢ ability on highest level the new Organisation has several additional assets at hand the first one didn't have to mitigate some of the problems that were knock-out criteria in the failed prototype.
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I just think it'd be weird if Marluxia is part of the new organization. Team 'Nort thought he was untrustworthy. That is a legitimate concern founded on the fact that Marluxia betrayed the original organization. However, now they let him join? Either they have confidence that they can control him through a piece of Xehanort's heart or they got desperate after they lost Sora.
Twelve of the members had already had seeds of Xehanort planted in them prior to Dream Drop Distance. Marluxia, if he is one of the Xehanort's, would have that seed in him now. Based on the comments from Fami or one of those places that recapped D23, Toy Story is before Tangled. Young Xehanort is studying how hearts connected because there is a darkness that they are missing long before Sora encounters the Graceful Assassin in the forests of Corona.
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Twelve of the members had already had seeds of Xehanort planted in them prior to Dream Drop Distance. Marluxia, if he is one of the Xehanort's, would have that seed in him now.
Is this so? I don't doubt you, I just don't believe I've heard this tidbit before, myself.
I knew it was the long-run intent of the Organization for seeds of Xehanort's heart to be planted in each member. I however didn't think it was ever clear or confirmed that each of the first twelve certainly had that seed in them.
I guess as far as I was concerned, the only one Xemnas managed to impress upon for certain during the Org's time was Saix (with himself being...himself, and Xigbar having been mostly norted during BBS).
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The key phrase for me is, “I, Marluxia serve it,†referring to the “only Organization.†It doesn’t sound like he would “serve†a group he’s the leader of. The only groups I’d think he would join without being the leader are MX’s Organization (probably for a revenge-driven mission) or the Dandelions reformed. While I admit, it would be an exciting twist to see Ephemer, Skuld, et al forming their own “Unchained Organization,†if you will, I don’t think it’s too likely. BUT if he’s actually loyal to the Dandelions, it would explain a lot including why he wanted Castle Oblivion (for Ventus.)
That being said, until proven otherwise, I’m going to assume that he’s going to be with MX.
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Is this so? I don't doubt you, I just don't believe I've heard this tidbit before, myself.
I knew it was the long-run intent of the Organization for seeds of Xehanort's heart to be planted in each member. I however didn't think it was ever clear or confirmed that each of the first twelve certainly had that seed in them.
I guess as far as I was concerned, the only one Xemnas managed to impress upon for certain during the Org's time was Saix (with himself being...himself, and Xigbar having been mostly norted during BBS).
Twelve beings appeared at the end of Dream Drop Distance, and Xehanort only sent his heart towards a thirteenth being - Sora. It wouldn’t make sense if Xehanort was jumping past a few members to get his heart into the very final member. The fact that all twelve were destined to arrive on that day for the unification of the seekers of darkness and the guardians of light (a union that was not achieved) tells me that everyone has Xehanort’s heart except for the thirteenth member.
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Twelve beings appeared at the end of Dream Drop Distance, and Xehanort only sent his heart towards a thirteenth being - Sora. It wouldn’t make sense if Xehanort was jumping past a few members to get his heart into the very final member. The fact that all twelve were destined to arrive on that day for the unification of the seekers of darkness and the guardians of light (a union that was not achieved) tells me that everyone has Xehanort’s heart except for the thirteenth member.
Ohhh, apologies, I understand. Yes, the new Org is already 'Norted to some extent, that much I get. I thought you were suggesting that the old Org members all definitely had seeds of Xehanort's heart planted within them, but I getcha now.
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BUT if he’s actually loyal to the Dandelions, it would explain a lot including why he wanted Castle Oblivion (for Ventus.)
There are some logical holes in this line of thought though as it is nowhere indicated that Marluxia wanted specifically Castle Oblivion, he wanted first and foremost power and he was put in charge of C.O. by Xemnas himself.
That's why he was able to almost effortlessly get Vexen to submit to his authority despite the whole "I'm Number 4 and you're only Number 11"-ranting from him, because he had Xemnas' higher authority behind him.
As for Ventus, there is no indicator that Marluxia even knew about him being in C.O.
Saix and Axel also only know about "the chamber" in broadest terms and while Xigbar hints about possibly that chamber housing the "other friend" to Zexion during a scene in KH 2 Final Mix there are so far only three people who know for sure that Ventus rests in C.O:
Aqua, Xemnas and Master Xehanort.
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I just think it'd be weird if Marluxia is part of the new organization. Team 'Nort thought he was untrustworthy. That is a legitimate concern founded on the fact that Marluxia betrayed the original organization. However, now they let him join? Either they have confidence that they can control him through a piece of Xehanort's heart or they got desperate after they lost Sora.
I just want to know why would Xehanort, a man who can plan for anything, pick the likeliest person to betray them? Because Marluxia is not a team player. He's always had his eyes at the top and now I'm supposed to believe he's going to obey Xehanort? Or are they going to ruin his character by taking away his scheming personality and have him loyally fight for New Org 13 until the end? So either it's going to be predictable and Marluxia betrays the Organization again or they go against this character's established background and make him another Xehanort puppet.
Now I'm curious if Xehanort is planning on Marluxia betraying them again or if his confidence finally caught himself in a stupid mistake. Anyway that's why I hope he's not in the new Organization.
Again.....Saix exists. They also went for Terra and Sora as well. Marluxia being in the True Organization not only is confirmed by him but it makes sense. Also his established character is he is greedy for the Keyblade. Xehanort can offer this to him like he did with Braig.
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Twelve beings appeared at the end of Dream Drop Distance, and Xehanort only sent his heart towards a thirteenth being - Sora. It wouldn’t make sense if Xehanort was jumping past a few members to get his heart into the very final member. The fact that all twelve were destined to arrive on that day for the unification of the seekers of darkness and the guardians of light (a union that was not achieved) tells me that everyone has Xehanort’s heart except for the thirteenth member.
Yeah and if Marluxia is a member he would've been sitting at one of the thrones, because the thirteenth is not very likely going to be him. Probably a big shock factor character. Alright, I get that and that was an oversight on my part, but I feel that my other gripes are legitimate.
[FONT=Verdana]Again.....Saix exists. They also went for Terra and Sora as well. Marluxia being in the True Organization not only is confirmed by him but it makes sense. Also his established character is he is greedy for the Keyblade. Xehanort can offer this to him like he did with Braig.[/FONT] |
Except unlike Braig, Marluxia's Somebody wielded a Keyblade. So he doen't need Xehanort's help to get one. He should be able to do it on his own since Marluxia gained his heart back.
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Yeah and if Marluxia is a member he would've been sitting at one of the thrones, because the thirteenth is not very likely going to be him. Probably a big shock factor character. Alright, I get that and that was an oversight on my part, but I feel that my other gripes are legitimate.
Except unlike Braig, Marluxia's Somebody wielded a Keyblade. So he doen't need Xehanort's help to get one. He should be able to do it on his own since Marluxia gained his heart back.
There's absolutely nothing confirming Lauriam is a Keyblade wielder at this time. Even so there's no proof Marluxia can still wield one if Lauriam was one.
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Except unlike Braig, Marluxia's Somebody wielded a Keyblade. So he doen't need Xehanort's help to get one. He should be able to do it on his own since Marluxia gained his heart back.
Except we don't really know that he does, now do we?
There is certainly evidence that he may, but no certainty as to whether he really did wield a keyblade.
Edit: Ninja'd by KeyToDestiny above
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Except unlike Braig, Marluxia's Somebody wielded a Keyblade. So he doen't need Xehanort's help to get one. He should be able to do it on his own since Marluxia gained his heart back.
We don't know if "Lauriam" in the present time can still wield or if he either lost his Keyblade or maybe got it sealed.
As shown with Way to the Dawn in the newest trailer Keyblades can break and become unusable somehow.
Not to mention that there is still no hint towards how exactly the whole "Unchained"/Union Cross business and reality is connected with the present day story and era so Lauriam having one in Unchained isn't a guarantee that he has one in the present.
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Also, on that whole idea of an independent "Dandelion"-Organisation mentioned earlier, I'd certainly say that such a move would be fitting for Nomura's usual "surprises" and twists, but personally I'm not too fond of the imagery of the Dandelions/Unchained-characters intruding on the present-era storyline and events.
Considering how awful the scripts can often be the danger of overcrowding an already rather big cast to juggle (which Nomura even admitted in a recent interview) and spotlight-stealing par excellence is certainly there.
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We don't know if "Lauriam" in the present time can still wield or if he either lost his Keyblade or maybe got it sealed.
As shown with Way to the Dawn in the newest trailer Keyblades can break and become unusable somehow.
Not to mention that there is still no hint towards how exactly the whole "Unchained"/Union Cross business and reality is connected with the present day story and era so Lauriam having one in Unchained isn't a guarantee that he has one in the present.
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Also, on that whole idea of an independent "Dandelion"-Organisation mentioned earlier, I'd certainly say that such a move would be fitting for Nomura's usual "surprises" and twists, but personally I'm not too fond of the imagery of the Dandelions/Unchained-characters intruding on the present-era storyline and events.
Considering how awful the scripts can often be the danger of overcrowding an already rather big cast to juggle (which Nomura even admitted in a recent interview) and spotlight-stealing par excellence is certainly there.
Even then Marluxia said "Shin Juusan Kinkan". Juusan Kinkan is translated as Organization XIII. Don't see how in any way someone could draw upon the Dandelions based on that and not the Organization XIII running around in different worlds causing trouble.
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Okay maybe the Keyblade got broke or sealed. That's fine. However if not then I don't see why he shouldn't be able to still wield it when you have Lea, with no prior key slinging, able to wield one.
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Xemnas can also wield the Keyblade but chooses not too. Maybe Marluxia could be the same, but we have no actual proof that this is the case.
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Okay maybe the Keyblade got broke or sealed. That's fine. However if not then I don't see why he shouldn't be able to still wield it when you have Lea, with no prior key slinging, able to wield one.
As I mentioned before
1. There's no real proof Laruiam himself even had a Keyblade since he could easily be the traitor who eliminated Strelitzia.
2.Xemnas who's the nobody of Keyblade wielders doesn't wield one himself. Sure Nomura suggested that he may intentionally choose not to wield one there's still no real indication he could wield one and using Xehanort's Keyblade armor isn't real proof aince he could have dished out a Keyblade then as well. Point is like Xemnas, Marluxia may have lost the ability to wield or can't wield for some given reason. This on the basis that Lauriam is a Keyblade wielder which once again isn't confirmed yet.
3. Not sure why you used Lea as point of comparison. He went through the ceremony to wield one. There's nothing shown Marluxia did the same thing.
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Even then Marluxia said "Shin Juusan Kinkan". Juusan Kinkan is translated as Organization XIII. Don't see how in any way someone could draw upon the Dandelions based on that and not the Organization XIII running around in different worlds causing trouble.
That too.
Lol, some people just love to have their imagination run wild, but sometimes it gets too wild.
Not to mention that it is not even clear if Marluxia remembers anything from the Unchained-era and even if he theoretically does, if he actually gives a damn is another can of worms.
Considering how he acted in CoM Marluxia doesn't strike me as a person who would cling too much to the past.
Okay maybe the Keyblade got broke or sealed. That's fine. However if not then I don't see why he shouldn't be able to still wield it when you have Lea, with no prior key slinging, able to wield one.
Lea is a completely different pair of shoes since he a) got the ceremony from either Yen Sid or Mickey and b) trained in a time chamber with Merlin and the three fairies to speed up his "wielder-status".
We don't even know how Marluxia/Lauriam even crossed from one era to the other, regardless in which direction, so the assumption that something interfered with his Keyblade (and no new one choosing him) is not that farfetched.
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That too.
Lol, some people just love to have their imagination run wild, but sometimes it gets too wild.
Not to mention that it is not even clear if Marluxia remembers anything from the Unchained-era and even if he theoretically does, if he actually gives a damn is another can of worms.
Considering how he acted in CoM Marluxia doesn't strike me as a person who would cling too much to the past
Exactly. There's nothing showing or shown that Marluxia remembers anything from the Chi era. Granted this is all new revelations from last year and Marluxia hasn't been relevant in like 10 or more years. Still there's no proof at the moment. Just headcanon. He could be like Ventus and not remember that time period. Plus as you said there's nothing showing Marluxia gives a damn at all about that time period even if he remembers.
I think the strong denial of Marluxia being with Xehanort's Organization XIII is because people want Marluxia to not fall into the same pattern as Ansem and Xemnas with the whole "previous main antagonist being a pawn of the bigger bad". Like I get it but still....
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As I mentioned before
1. There's no real proof Laruiam himself even had a Keyblade since he could easily be the traitor who eliminated Strelitzia.
2.Xemnas who's the nobody of Keyblade wielders doesn't wield one himself. Sure Nomura suggested that he may intentionally choose not to wield one there's still no real indication he could wield one and using Xehanort's Keyblade armor isn't real proof aince he could have dished out a Keyblade then as well. Point is like Xemnas, Marluxia may have lost the ability to wield or can't wield for some given reason. This on the basis that Lauriam is a Keyblade wielder which once again isn't confirmed yet.
3. Not sure why you used Lea as point of comparison. He went through the ceremony to wield one. There's nothing shown Marluxia did the same thing.
1. I think he is, because they found the silhouette is shaped like him. If he didn't wield a Keyblade then he'd be an imposter not a traitor. A traitor sounds like a Keyblade wielder that betrayed and killed one of his own to take her spot. In other words he had to be part of the dandelions to gain trust and betray it. If not then he's an imposter that never had any loyalty to begin with. It may be a mistake in translation though.
2. If Marluxia is like Xemnas and can summon Keyblade, but chooses not to then what reason would he have to join the new Organization? They may have lost the ability as a Nobody, but it's possible they could wield it again when they regained their hearts.
3. Maybe that was a bad example. However Riku didn't have to go through a second ceremony to gain a Keyblade. If Marluxia wielded one before he shouldn't have to go through a ceremony again either.
That's all I care to write at the moment. I may be wrong, but I want to be sure. I'm not going to just accept other unsubstantiated info over my unsubstantiated opinions. I like my opinion and will adjust when canon is released. I'm also not ruling out Marluxia running a facade to get revenge on Xehanort either. Which makes me wonder about Xehanort's judgement.
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1. I think he is, because they found the silhouette is shaped like him. If he didn't wield a Keyblade then he'd be an imposter not a traitor. A traitor sounds like a Keyblade wielder that betrayed and killed one of his own to take her spot. In other words he had to be part of the dandelions to gain trust and betray it. If not then he's an imposter that never had any loyalty to begin with. It may be a mistake in translation though.
2. If Marluxia is like Xemnas and can summon Keyblade, but chooses not to then what reason would he have to join the new Organization? They may have lost the ability as a Nobody, but it's possible they could wield it again when they regained their hearts.
3. Maybe that was a bad example. However Riku didn't have to go through a second ceremony to gain a Keyblade. If Marluxia wielded one before he shouldn't have to go through a ceremony again either.
That's all I care to write at the moment. I may be wrong, but I want to be sure. I'm not going to just accept other unsubstantiated info over my unsubstantiated opinions. I like my opinion and will adjust when canon is released. I'm also not ruling out Marluxia running a facade to get revenge on Xehanort either. Which makes me wonder about Xehanort's judgement.
1. Again while it's possible he's the traitor it's also possible he isn't. I just used that bit as an example. Also if it was him then he could also be an imposter too since nothing says they're mutually exclusive. Him being a traitor doesn't necessarily need to indicate he's a Keyblade wielder. He could easily be affiliated with the Unions in another way if it all. Either way it could go either way. We can agree on that.
2. Again on the basis of Lauriam being a Keyblade wielder it's possible that Marluxia somehow lost the ability to wield one himself or lost his Keyblade. Most of the Organization nobodies have memories of their original selves so Marluxia shouldn't be any different especially since Nobodies are revealed able to grow a heart.
3. Well again as I said it's possible Marluxia lost the ability to wield one assuming Lauriam was a Keyblade wielder. We don't really know nor can confirm either way. All we can go with for what we know of Marluxia himself is that he couldn't wield a Keyblade and wanted one himself even if he had to use Sora.
And as for "unsubstantiated info".... you realize it's more of your unsubstantiated theory vs. Marluxia's own words. Also the whole "Marluxia is lying about what he said" seems like the epitome of reaching at this point. Don't know why he would lie about such a thing.
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Does anybody have any rough translations of anything so far?
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So you just take everything at face value and not expect any misdirection? Cool. Why wouldn't he betray again or maybe a third time if he is considered the traitor in Union Cross? Yeah I'm reaching lol.
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So you just take everything at face value and not expect any misdirection? Cool. Why wouldn't he betray again or maybe a third time if he is considered the traitor in Union Cross? Yeah I'm reaching lol.
When you come up with a better argument than.....that, I will be waiting. KH is known for misdirection but also known to be straight to the point or obvious.
Until then there's nothing more to say. At this point you're arguing against what a character said in game in favor of your headcanon that has little to no substance behind it.
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Why? Based on that response I won't need to. I can tell that you just don't want to hear opinions that differ from your own. Cheers!
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Organization XIII has Saix who's a traitor and wanted the kid who arcade moded half their members down.
I can't wait until people lose it when Largeness returns.
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Question:
Has anyone pondered the possibility that perhaps Marluxia is a past version that was brought back from time and that Lauriam is somewhere out there? I know time-traveling works by going to a point in time where you have a version of yourself, but what if Marluxia is in the present because of the piece of Xehanort's heart he was seeded with? Maybe Xehanort decided to change the circumstances around Marluxia and see if the seeding works this time.
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Question:
Has anyone pondered the possibility that perhaps Marluxia is a past version that was brought back from time and that Lauriam is somewhere out there? I know time-traveling works by going to a point in time where you have a version of yourself, but what if Marluxia is in the present because of the piece of Xehanort's heart he was seeded with? Maybe Xehanort decided to change the circumstances around Marluxia and see if the seeding works this time.
Time travel is certainly a possible explanation/action as well.
If some version of Marluxia/Lauriam does exist in the present time of KH III it is possible for a version of the past to travel forward, either by himself or by being "summoned" by someone else.
Beyond the reasoning of wanting power and "overthrowing" the Organisation it was never further explored as to why, and more importantly when Marluxia decided to form a rebellion and go traitor.
If he got nabbed from the past before he had his Rebellion plan build up perhaps there could be a different outcome regarding his loyalty, even independent from a possible Xehanort seed.
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Organization XIII has Saix who's a traitor and wanted the kid who arcade moded half their members down.
That's all that really needs to be said about the whole "Marluxia has weakness of trust" thing.
Also Saix was ultimately responsible for the elimination of two of Xemnas most trusted members.
As others have pointed out, Xemnas list of flaws was more of a way to confirm not all members would be back than anything specific about WHY some members won't be back.
Besides, if the whole point is that Master Xehanort's will will eventually overpower the vessel's and making it share purpose and goals, "weakness of trust" shouldn't really play any part at all when picking candidates.
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If some version of Marluxia/Lauriam does exist in the present time of KH III it is possible for a version of the past to travel forward, either by himself or by being "summoned" by someone else.
From a narrative point of view, it makes sense to include Marluxia in KINGDOM HEARTS III, seeing as how he's also tied to the KHUx story, and the Ux lore will be heavily tied. And from a plot point of view, Marluxia is just too powerful of an individual to not "Nortify". He created a copy of himself that gave Sora a challenge, and basically has one and two "monstrous" forms.
Also, the same could be said about previous Organization XIII members.
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Random thought no real evidence to support it. Marluxia may have found the chamber of waking. I know only Aqua knows how to find it but maybe using namine he was able to find it due to Ven and Sora's connection. It would partially explain how vanitas knew vens heart was in sora.
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Time travel is certainly a possible explanation/action as well.
If some version of Marluxia/Lauriam does exist in the present time of KH III it is possible for a version of the past to travel forward, either by himself or by being "summoned" by someone else.
That's exactly what I thought.
Marluxia's end in CoM > Lauriam human again in the present > Marluxia from the past before the events of CoM can travel to future.
Occam's razor.
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It seems the garbage summoning system from FFXV is returning.
To summon, you need to fulfill "special conditions".
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From a narrative point of view, it makes sense to include Marluxia in KINGDOM HEARTS III, seeing as how he's also tied to the KHUx story, and the Ux lore will be heavily tied. And from a plot point of view, Marluxia is just too powerful of an individual to not "Nortify". He created a copy of himself that gave Sora a challenge, and basically has one and two "monstrous" forms.
Also, the same could be said about previous Organization XIII members.
meta-wise it makes also sense because he was the main antagonist of one of the previous games just like Ansem SoD, Xemnas and Young Xehanort were.
Random thought no real evidence to support it. Marluxia may have found the chamber of waking. I know only Aqua knows how to find it but maybe using namine he was able to find it due to Ven and Sora's connection. It would partially explain how vanitas knew vens heart was in sora.
If it would be possible to find the chamber using the method you describe Xemnas would have used it.
There is no indicator that Marluxia is even in any capacity interested in finding the chamber much less even knows it exists.
Xemnas was obsessed with finding it while Saix was at least interested, but nothing points towards Marluxia.
Vanitas knowing that Ven's heart is in Sora can be explained much easier by his own connection with Ventus.
Despite having two independent hearts now they are still connected because Vanitas originally spawned from Ventus.
That's exactly what I thought.
Marluxia's end in CoM > Lauriam human again in the present > Marluxia from the past before the events of CoM can travel to future.
Occam's razor.
There's one logic error though as Marluxia in the trailer states he's delighted to see Sora "again", meaning if he's a time traveler he can't be from before CoM, only from during CoM.
If one remembers that the first part of the final battle in CoM was a double of Marluxia it is within possibility that on some other occasions during CoM the Marluxia being seen is also a double while the "real" Marluxia is on a time trip to KH III times.
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It seems the garbage summoning system from FFXV is returning.
To summon, you need to fulfill "special conditions".
Fulfill special conditions before using it. Just like every other gameplay mechanic in the game except regular attacks and magic.
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can't be from before CoM, only from during CoM.
Yes, you're right. I explained bad sorry, I mean before defeating him of course xD
And also yes with the other thing about Marluxia's double.
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Fulfill special conditions before using it. Just like every other gameplay mechanic in the game except regular attacks and magic.
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This is actually pretty odd, since the summons, also known as Links, have a slot on the command menu.
It could require certain circumstances. It has been theorised, and highly likely, that Ariel is only available near water. That kind of special circumstance is inline with everything else where you get certain commands by using certain attacks and magic. I recognise that Links is its own command but this isn’t really exactly new.
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So are the translations of those scans actually coming? It feels like it has been quite a while with no update...
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So are the translations of those scans actually coming? It feels like it has been quite a while with no update...
Our translators have very, very busy lives and have personal things to attend to so fitting in time to translate news is not always an easy task but translations are coming.
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It could require certain circumstances. It has been theorised, and highly likely, that Ariel is only available near water. That kind of special circumstance is inline with everything else where you get certain commands by using certain attacks and magic. I recognise that Links is its own command but this isn’t really exactly new.
I'm really looking forward to that lol I think it will be way better than Summons lol
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I'm really looking forward to that lol I think it will be way better than Summons lol
Should be neat since with Meow Wow it does tie into gameplay and you do have control over it. In the past you could only use summons under certain circumstances (KH1 you needed enough magic, you could only summon once per battle and KH2 you needed enough drive gauge) and both gave you flexibility with attacks.
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Environmental summons is a garbage idea that should have been left in FFXV.
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Environmental summons is a garbage idea that should have been left in FFXV.
It’s only a theory so far, there’s no point getting frustrated or upset over something unconfirmed. Like I said before, summons have previously required various circumstances before being able to be used in battle, the same might be in place here.
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Our translators have very, very busy lives and have personal things to attend to so fitting in time to translate news is not always an easy task but translations are coming.
Ohhhhhhhh, I understand now. I was under the mistaken impression that some sort of official translation was on the way, rather than peeps doing translations on off time or what have you. My apologies if I seemed impatient.
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It’s only a theory so far, there’s no point getting frustrated or upset over something unconfirmed. Like I said before, summons have previously required various circumstances before being able to be used in battle, the same might be in place here.
Environmental Summons is an idea with potential that should be further explored, especially on a game like KH where mechanics are polished neatly.
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So the only things we can freely use are combos and magic?
No good reason to have both Attraction Flow and Summons be conditional. I can already see the secret bosses being awful especially after the Aqua mirror fight.
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So the only things we can freely use are combos and magic?
No good reason to have both Attraction Flow and Summons be conditional. I can already see the secret bosses being awful especially after the Aqua mirror fight.
No negativity on this site
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So the only things we can freely use are combos and magic?
No good reason to have both Attraction Flow and Summons be conditional. I can already see the secret bosses being awful especially after the Aqua mirror fight.
I know, right? It's like, what's the point if you have to work for something or use it in a specific place?!
Obviously I'm being sarcastic, as this is a pretty stupid argument. Don't get me wrong, I get it if you're talking about keyblade transformations; I understand being upset about how it doesn't seem like you have much control in switching into the drive forms (at least none shown so far).
At the same time, however, there's no indication so far that attraction flow and summons/links are actually highly conditional, with the teacup and the boat already being shown in several places and the summons/links only being theoretically conditional. Seriously, and this is not directed at you, but anyone taking Chaser's comment as truth should keep in mind that Chaser is only theorizing that based on an educated guess, and that it's not proven true just because they said it.
What Chaser said sounds pretty cool, though. I'd be completely fine with environmental/situational links in the game, as it seems like adding any inhibitors to any attacks in this game is pretty necessary due to the sheer amount of things you can do.
Sorry if I sounded harsh during that, I'm just peeved about the number of people taking so many theories as Word of God in these trailers.
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In past games you could freely choose when to use most attacks.
Big Hero 6,Toy Story,Monsters Inc etc are unlikely to have any water at all. Having a summon be exclusive to 1-2 world's lakes is ridiculous.
Then you have RNG Disney rides and Keyblade transformations that will likely be unuseable once you're overleveled. Having to work for something? Running to a puddle and RNG is working for something? Also these are ATTACKS not equipment. I do not want another combat system trainwreck like FFXV.
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it's also possible that some summons/links will be situational and some won't be.
anyway the entire point of them being situational (aside from ensuring they work in the space where they are used) is to balance the game and keep Sora from being TOO powerful with too many moves and options to do at any time.
personally i like the idea of environmental summons because i feel like it helps makes the worlds' environments feel more real and attached. it's not just something that will happen everywhere but something that happens because of the specifics of that world.
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In past games you could freely choose when to use most attacks.
In previous games you could only freely use attack. You had to wait until you had enough magic before you could cast it. You had to have enough in the drive gauge before you could change form. You had to wait until a command cooled down before you could use it again. It isn’t quite on the same level as attacks being given in certain environments, but you still had to meet certain conditions before you could use anything that wasn’t attack.
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In previous games you could only freely use attack. You had to wait until you had enough magic before you could cast it. You had to have enough in the drive gauge before you could change form. You had to wait until a command cooled down before you could use it again. It isn’t quite on the same level as attacks being given in certain environments, but you still had to meet certain conditions before you could use anything that wasn’t attack.
This
Pervious games did stuff like this before, what's stopping now because summons work different like FFXV? Granted I've been spoiler free so have no clue than take what here and the internet say.
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In past games you could freely choose when to use most attacks.
Big Hero 6,Toy Story,Monsters Inc etc are unlikely to have any water at all. Having a summon be exclusive to 1-2 world's lakes is ridiculous.
Then you have RNG Disney rides and Keyblade transformations that will likely be unuseable once you're overleveled. Having to work for something? Running to a puddle and RNG is working for something? Also these are ATTACKS not equipment. I do not want another combat system trainwreck like FFXV.
What makes you think that most keyblades will be unusable once you get to a higher level in this game? If anything, KHIII has done more than enough to convince us that the keyblades will be distinctly differentiated this time, past just giving them different stats.
On top of this, and this is going to be said later, but literally everything required something in the previous games. You couldn't use magic without mana, now could you? Environmental effects would simply be a restriction. I don't see why SanFransokyo wouldn't have water, either, since it's not like it's a dry city in the movie. Isn't there a giant island they have to fly to? That would have water.
it's also possible that some summons/links will be situational and some won't be.
anyway the entire point of them being situational (aside from ensuring they work in the space where they are used) is to balance the game and keep Sora from being TOO powerful with too many moves and options to do at any time.
personally i like the idea of environmental summons because i feel like it helps makes the worlds' environments feel more real and attached. it's not just something that will happen everywhere but something that happens because of the specifics of that world.
Yeah, interactivity sounds cool! Plus, Sora having this many abilities has never happened before, so there had better be restrictions like that on some of them. On the same vein, it'd be bad if you could just summon the train for literally everything without any real work or restraints put on it. You couldn't use master form without Donald & Goofy, for example. Maybe it could be similar to that?
In previous games you could only freely use attack. You had to wait until you had enough magic before you could cast it. You had to have enough in the drive gauge before you could change form. You had to wait until a command cooled down before you could use it again. It isn’t quite on the same level as attacks being given in certain environments, but you still had to meet certain conditions before you could use anything that wasn’t attack.
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This.
This
Pervious games did stuff like this before, what's stopping now because summons work different like FFXV? Granted I've been spoiler free so have no clue than take what here and the internet say.
It's not confirmed that they work differently, it's just speculation. Good on you for staying spoiler free, though!
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| -In place of the “Old†Organization XIII, blocking Sora’s path in KH3 is the “True†Organization XIII. Despite being defeated by Sora while apart of the Old Organization, Marluxia appears to also be a part of the new one? As for the reason for his revival, and whether his goals match with those of the True Organization XIII’s leader, Master Xehanort, all remain a mystery. |
I really needed to read this. Oh, it's good to get a little bit of clarification while also dangling more of this mystery.
Sora and friends encounter Mike and Sulley, who they mistake to be bullying a small human girl. |
OH MY GOD
(Screenshot of Sora, Mike, Sulley, Donald, Goofy pulling “scary†faces) Combining forces with all your friends, Link Attacks have also been prepared for use. In the trailer, we see Sora grab Mike, who shouts “What are you doing!?â€, and throws him like a bowling ball toward enemies who seem to be lined up like pins. |
There we go, Fami says that is a Link Attack.
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I really needed to read this. Oh, it's good to get a little bit of clarification while also dangling more of this mystery.
OH MY GOD
There we go, Fami says that is a Link Attack.
Ah its nice to know it is a link for sure, its strange the UI disappears....
Also yea still being vague about certain requirements for the links, but it also is vague about what benefits they have. I mean we can see Meow Wow is an attack of sorts...but maybe they all aren't? I hope at least the character stays on screen, like Bambi for instance. He didn't fight but his effect still had him "involved" lol, instead of just a pic of their smiling face like BBS.
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Marluxia is likely looking for Ventus.
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There we go, Fami says that is a Link Attack.
Unfortunatley, it’s still kind of ambiguous what that attack with Mike is specifically. They don’t state “Link†as they do with the Ariel and Meow Wow “summonsâ€, where they draw similarity to BBS’s dimension link. The wording is slightly different, and could potentially mean a “combination†attack, like we saw with Goofy in one of the trailers, which may again be separate from the Ariel/Meow Wow type Links.
It’s ambiguous at best, but for sure, the one with Mike can be translated as “Combination Attack/Move†or “Link Attack/Moveâ€.
This is just my opinion from here, but I think Famitsu separated the attack with Mike explanation from the other one involving Ariel/Meow Wow because they seem different to each other, but Famitsu isn’t entirely sure ether as they’re just commenting on what they were shown.
Whether it actually is a link attack or not is still a mystery, unfortunately. What sort of name they give it is beyond me, but to me it seems more like a combination attack that’ll work when some sort of condition is fulfilled, more so than the other “Link†attacks which they specifically mentioned separately. Maybe similar to in KH2 (was it KH2?) when you’d fight Hades with Hercules and you could press triangle to corporate with Hercules at certain points, except something more advanced.
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Unfortunatley, it’s still kind of ambiguous what that attack with Mike is specifically. They don’t state “Link†as they do with the Ariel and Meow Wow “summonsâ€, where they draw similarity to BBS’s dimension link. The wording is slightly different, and could potentially mean a “combination†attack, like we saw with Goofy in one of the trailers, which may again be separate from the Ariel/Meow Wow type Links.
It’s ambiguous at best, but for sure, the one with Mike can be translated as “Combination Attack/Move†or “Link Attack/Moveâ€.
This is just my opinion from here, but I think Famitsu separated the attack with Mike explanation from the other one involving Ariel/Meow Wow because they seem different to each other, but Famitsu isn’t entirely sure ether as they’re just commenting on what they were shown.
Whether it actually is a link attack or not is still a mystery, unfortunately. What sort of name they give it is beyond me, but to me it seems more like a combination attack that’ll work when some sort of condition is fulfilled, more so than the other “Link†attacks which they specifically mentioned separately. Maybe similar to in KH2 (was it KH2?) when you’d fight Hades with Hercules and you could press triangle to corporate with Hercules at certain points, except something more advanced.
Oh yeah, sorry for the confusion! A party attack is what I mean, like the limits. I forgot for a hot second that Summons are now Links, but I absolutely meant what you're talking about!
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I really needed to read this. Oh, it's good to get a little bit of clarification while also dangling more of this mystery.
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| Appearing countless times in the series as the stage for many important scenes, the Dark Margin. Could it be that they’ve come to search for her, the Keyblade Master? |
The pronoun game is still strong I see.
I wonder if in KH III they'll have TAV's character info in the Journal under "???" until you finally meet them.
Good to have gotten that clarification bit on Marluxia.
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Xemnas, after DDD: *dramatic arm sweeping* "Xigbaaaar, I had you review my monologue. So why didn't you tell me we're allowing traitors in the new Organizaation XIII? Do you not realize how *dramatic pause* embarrassing this is?"
Old coot Xehanort sure has very contradictory characters in his Organization. Wonder if there's going to be any further backstabbing with this new group? I mean, Marluxia's true intentions are still ambiguous at best and we've yet to understand Xigbar's investment in the Keyblade War.
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As stated in the DDD Ultimania, Master Xehanort has the ability to override the will and intentions of any of his vessels and take direct control as he wishes, so for all intents and purposes it doesn't matter if Marluxia or anyone else has their own intentions apart from MX.
If these own intentions have no negative impact on his own ambitions, MX will likely let them be but if they do prove to be contrary to what he wants MX will just take over via direct control and force compliance.
Now of course it is not stated how many vessels he can directly control at once (if he even can take direct control over more than one) and how much strain it put on him.
It has been shown that he has at least difficulties to keep Terra in line so if he has multiple cases like him it might become an interesting plot point if Xehanort's whole conceitedness and ignorance about just using other hearts as pawns for his own ambitions will finally get to bite him in the ass at some part during KH III's run.
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In place of the Old Organization XIII, blocking Sora's path in KH3 is the True Organization XIII.Despite being defeated by Sora while apart of the Old Organization, Marluxia appears to also be a part of the new one? As for the reason for his revival, and whether his goals match with those of the True Organization XIII's leader, Master Xehanort, all remain a mystery.
Hmm, the article seems to be implying some sort of coup that'll happen with Marluxia. Maybe he was Xehanort's last choice after Sora fell through and he's keeping an eye on whether or not he's trustworthy? This will end up being very interesting I think!
| Additionally, in the series' oldest story to date, Kingdom Hearts Union Cross, we encounter a figure named Lauriam who bears a striking resemblance to Marluxia. |
HOLY, CRAP, JUST SAY ONE WORD, NOMURA. SOMEBODY. JUST SAY HE'S HIS SOMEBODY, IT'S NOT THAT HARD. EVERYONE KNOWS IT.
| The key to the story lies within the power of children? In the top left corner of some screenshots we can see a small icon of a face accompanied by a gauge labelled LAUGH POWER. While it's been said that the screams of horrified children are able to generate energy, in reality it's not only those screams that can do it. The power of a laugh is also able to generate huge energy. Perhaps the act of entertaining Boo, making her cry out in laughter, will be useful within battle? |
This sounds like fun! Wonder what type of attacks will make her laugh?
| (Upper page 43, screenshot of Sora sliding on a rail)As seen in the original film, we can see the warehouse which stores the huge amount of doors linked to children's rooms in the human world. In this segment we can see Sora sliding on one of the rails, with the command Take Cover available, which appears to be a gimmick that allows Sora to hide himself from enemies. |
So, is this a true gimmick or a common feature of these rails?
| (Screenshot of Sora, Mike, Sulley, Donald, Goofy pulling scary faces)Combining forces with all your friends, Link Attacks have also been prepared for use. In the trailer, we see Sora grab Mike, who shouts What are you doing!?, and throws him like a bowling ball toward enemies who seem to be lined up like pins. |
Ha, I KNEW IT. That Mike move was an actual attack and not a cutscene! Although I hope that they're really called limits or something; Link Attacks is too similar to Links.
| As for travelling between worlds? Of course, the Gummi Ship returns< While embarking off to each world, you will be able to control and play a shooting style game with the Gummi Ship. In KH3, you will be able to control the Gummi Ship in all fields of motion, and fly freely among space while fighting large numbers of enemies. Additionally, the flying segments are split into two phases: Battle and Searching Phase. Perhaps there'll also be the possibility to fly out searching for items? |
Already saw this in the pre-conference, just excited that Gummi Ship combat is returning :D Birth by Sleep made me appreciate it a whole lot.
| (Picture of Sora riding Meow Wow)Beginning with Meow Wow, the Dream Eaters that made their appearances in KH3D all gather around Sora! Could it be that upon visiting them all at the end of KH3D, Sora gained this new power!? |
Well, guess we know what the secret from the end of 0.2 was! Does that mean that Sora will have this starting in Olympus, though? I could see this being the introductory Link for Sora, since the bond was formed before the game happened.
| Appearing in Birth By Sleep in the form of the Dimension Link, the Link System in KH3 is a similar idea where you are able to lend upon the power of your friends afar. Upon fulfilling certain requirements, those who have connected with Sora's heart, like Ariel and Meow Wow, will make a temporary appearance on screen, bringing all sorts of bonuses and effects. |
Bonuses and effects, huh? I could see this giving Sora special attacks, like the D-Links did in Birth by Sleep, I just don't know how they would handle it. My interest has been piqued, however, and I am excited to see what happens from here. I imagine this is what Nomura wished he could have done developing Birth by Sleep.
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Overall, this was a pretty solid article. I felt like some good information was shared here, however there was a lot of repetition from before the magazine came out. That's to be expected with these things, so I'm happy with what we've got.
Anyone else feel the same about Meow Wow's involvement? I'm really predicting that Meow Wow is going to be the introductory Link that we'll have access to during the tutorial sections.
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Hmm, the article seems to be implying some sort of coup that'll happen with Marluxia. Maybe he was Xehanort's last choice after Sora fell through and he's keeping an eye on whether or not he's trustworthy? This will end up being very interesting I think!
HOLY, CRAP, JUST SAY ONE WORD, NOMURA. SOMEBODY. JUST SAY HE'S HIS SOMEBODY, IT'S NOT THAT HARD. EVERYONE KNOWS IT.
This sounds like fun! Wonder what type of attacks will make her laugh?
So, is this a true gimmick or a common feature of these rails?
Ha, I KNEW IT. That Mike move was an actual attack and not a cutscene! Although I hope that they're really called limits or something; Link Attacks is too similar to Links.
Already saw this in the pre-conference, just excited that Gummi Ship combat is returning :D Birth by Sleep made me appreciate it a whole lot.
Well, guess we know what the secret from the end of 0.2 was! Does that mean that Sora will have this starting in Olympus, though? I could see this being the introductory Link for Sora, since the bond was formed before the game happened.
Bonuses and effects, huh? I could see this giving Sora special attacks, like the D-Links did in Birth by Sleep, I just don't know how they would handle it. My interest has been piqued, however, and I am excited to see what happens from here. I imagine this is what Nomura wished he could have done developing Birth by Sleep.
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Overall, this was a pretty solid article. I felt like some good information was shared here, however there was a lot of repetition from before the magazine came out. That's to be expected with these things, so I'm happy with what we've got.
Anyone else feel the same about Meow Wow's involvement? I'm really predicting that Meow Wow is going to be the introductory Link that we'll have access to during the tutorial sections.
Yes I also think Meow Wow will be the first Link. Since it happens right before the events of the game. Also it just seems like a "starting" one to me lol.
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HOLY, CRAP, JUST SAY ONE WORD, NOMURA. SOMEBODY. JUST SAY HE'S HIS SOMEBODY, IT'S NOT THAT HARD. EVERYONE KNOWS IT.
There is the possibility that Marluxia (the Nobody) is actually the combination of two beings. Xemnas is Xehanort + Terra and Roxas is Sora + Ventus. So from that perspective, he may be Marluxia's Nobody but he may also be associated with another "character"...
(Inserted shameless theory plug: https://forums.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-iii/214791-true-reincarnation-theory-eraqus-striletzia.html)
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Now we've just got to wait it out until Aerith is teased to be a PoH in the next trailer
this is super sarcastic for those wondering
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Now we've just got to wait it out until Aerith is teased to be a PoH in the next trailer
this is super sarcastic for those wondering
Good one tho
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Has anyone considered that Marluxia could have conjured one of his copies to visit Sora which is why he appears in his normal state? If I were him, I wouldn’t risk confronting Sora in person if I didn’t have to after what happened last time. Lol
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If Marluxia was present at the end of Dream Drop Distance, then he knows that Sora is weaker than ever before.
Besides, Xemnas and Ansem confronted Sora and Riku after being blown to smithereens before.
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If Marluxia was present at the end of Dream Drop Distance, then he knows that Sora is weaker than ever before.
Besides, Xemnas and Ansem confronted Sora and Riku after being blown to smithereens before.
Weaker? We know that Tangled happens quite a while after Olympus. At this point Sora should have the strength he gained in DDD back. If anything he is even stronger given all of his new abilities.
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Weaker? We know that Tangled happens quite a while after Olympus. At this point Sora should have the strength he gained in DDD back. If anything he is even stronger given all of his new abilities.
Would Marluxia have known that Sora would get his strength back though? As far as I am away as to how far the Xehanort's are aware, they weakened Sora and he is stuck in a coma. That was only reversed after they went back to their own time and Sora was safely escorted back to Mysterious Tower.
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Would Marluxia have known that Sora would get his strength back though? As far as I am away as to how far the Xehanort's are aware, they weakened Sora and he is stuck in a coma. That was only reversed after they went back to their own time and Sora was safely escorted back to Mysterious Tower.
Still. Why put yourself at risk when you have the option not to? Up until now, I’ve figured he just hasn’t experienced the physical changes yet for whatever reason. Possibly that due to the events of DDD, the Norts have to start fresh with the whole process. Since they returned to their times, they shouldn’t have retained it anyways.
But it seems not many other people are on board with that idea, so I figured I’d propose another possibility.
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Why would Marluxia be even scared? He can just Corridor of Darkness his bottom away from danger.
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Would Marluxia have known that Sora would get his strength back though? As far as I am away as to how far the Xehanort's are aware, they weakened Sora and he is stuck in a coma. That was only reversed after they went back to their own time and Sora was safely escorted back to Mysterious Tower.
See, I would love to see this worked in throughout Olympus. Either some scene where everyone is all "oh no, Sora!" and one of the Xehanort's is there and then Sora is covered in a yellow glow and lifts the Rock Titan up as he slams him into a nearby mountain and the Xehanort nods, impressed, or a scene where one of the Xehanort's tries to do something reckless and Master Xehanort calls him foolish, knowing already that he's back.
In Kingdom of Corona, though? Nomura said that was a mid-tier world, so I very highly doubt that any of them would still be in the dark about his reappearance, especially Marluxia.
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Why would Marluxia be even scared? He can just Corridor of Darkness his bottom away from danger.
Then why didn’t he just do that in CoM? He doesn’t have to scared per se. It would just be more practical.
See, I would love to see this worked in throughout Olympus. Either some scene where everyone is all "oh no, Sora!" and one of the Xehanort's is there and then Sora is covered in a yellow glow and lifts the Rock Titan up as he slams him into a nearby mountain and the Xehanort nods, impressed, or a scene where one of the Xehanort's tries to do something reckless and Master Xehanort calls him foolish, knowing already that he's back.
In Kingdom of Corona, though? Nomura said that was a mid-tier world, so I very highly doubt that any of them would still be in the dark about his reappearance, especially Marluxia.
Yeah, they’re definitely tracking him. How else would they know where his and where to send the Nobodies to attack?
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In Kingdom of Corona, though? Nomura said that was a mid-tier world, so I very highly doubt that any of them would still be in the dark about his reappearance, especially Marluxia.
The whole reason for a weak Sora is to explain why he is back at level one in the gameplay. Extending that, a level 30 Sora in Corona would still be classified as weak against a man like Marluxia.
I really think yall are overanalysing this Marluxia thing. Many characters that Sora thrashes in gameplay come back in cutscenes to taunt him or speak to him. Axel does it, Ansem does it, Xemnas does it, (Vanitas does it to Aqua and Ventus), and now Marluxia does it. I don’t think he should be, or would be, scared of being slain by Sora again when it is unclear what Marluxia is doing in Corona.
Many obvious bad guys have appeared before Sora and slipped away without being hurt (Saix, Xigbar, Luxord, Xaldin etc). It’s one of the easiest things in this series to wrap your mind around - that characters can talk without getting violent. We have seen it happen many times, I don’t know why this should be any different.
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The whole reason for a weak Sora is to explain why he is back at level one in the gameplay. Extending that, a level 30 Sora in Corona would still be classified as weak against a man like Marluxia.
I really think yall are overanalysing this Marluxia thing. Many characters that Sora thrashes in gameplay come back in cutscenes to taunt him or speak to him. Axel does it, Ansem does it, Xemnas does it, (Vanitas does it to Aqua and Ventus), and now Marluxia does it. I don’t think he should be, or would be, scared of being slain by Sora again when it is unclear what Marluxia is doing in Corona.
Many obvious bad guys have appeared before Sora and slipped away without being hurt (Saix, Xigbar, Luxord, Xaldin etc). It’s one of the easiest things in this series to wrap your mind around - that characters can talk without getting violent. We have seen it happen many times, I don’t know why this should be any different.
Again, I only offered the idea as a suggestion because so many people are fussing that he doesn’t have Xehanort features yet. I think it’s just due to the effects reversing after DDD or they just haven’t set in yet. Also, Xehanort never says in DDD that he’s bonded with all of his vessels. Just that all of the chosen are present.
But no one seems to agree with that, thinking there’s some ulterior reason like him being in a different Organization which we now know isn’t true. So I proposed this as a simple way he might still look the same despite already being a Nort. Marluxia seems like the vain type to not want to walk around in public looking like an old geezer.
It wasn’t intended to ruffle any feathers; it was just a thought I had.
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