If he's teasing it. That's a big yes I presume. Sony is having a PlayStation event by the first week of December or maybe we will find out by Jump Fiesta.

It was pretty obvious that we were going to get 3DHD in some form at some point.

If the 3D cards hint towards this, it wouldn't necessarily surprise me.

Very good eyes Sign! I'll admit, after reading this I tried to see if there were any other alterations to the characters in the cards and all I could kind of see was Neku's necklace and Sora's The Grid helmet having 5 weird spots of light but I don't think those confirm anything.

If this isn't for a HD Remaster, it's really suspicious why they would modify his model.

Oh, it was. But the article is meant to acknowledge the existence of the proof itself.

It's odd though, the newer render of Riku looks lower quality..like his fingers are bunched together and has the lovely fish face.

The old render of Riku is his cutscene high-poly model, whereas the newer render is his lower-poly gameplay model (where you obviously will not see his fish face).

Here's another comparison of him on the Light Cycle (both models used for gameplay):

I'm thinking that, if a 3DHD is announced soon, it'll either be at the Playstation event in early December or Jump Festa. Given how KH stuff is almost always announced for Japan first though, I'm thinking Jump Festa is the more likely of the two if it happens.

Nomura's track record generally leaned towards a Jump Festa preference, so there's a pretty good chance.

I have no doubt that we will get the game in HD but the question is what other "stuff" will come with the game or if it will be only digital, I can't see them releasing the game as a standalone.

Well, I certainly don't think it's out of the question, and I suppose JF is appropriate.

Am I delusional for dreaming of a III.5 already?~ (3DHD + KHIII + X[chi] cinematics) Except I actually want X[chi] released internationally so I can play it. :<

I personally think porting Chi to Vita like they're doing with Agito would be enough to take care of that problem 8D

I can.

A 3DHD released for a reduced price, like $20? Totally possible.

Chi on Vita has been what I've been hoping for all along.



That's REALLY cheap for a game worth more.

I'm all for cheap games, but $20 is insultingly low for the amount of work that'd go into remastering 3D.

Well, 3D was originally $40, and HD rereleases are sold for cheaper than normal.

Other games, like Okami HD, sold for around that price point. And since it's significantly less content than 1.5 and 2.5, which are $40 at release, it seems like a fair price to me.

This is, of course, assuming 3DHD would be just a standalone release of 3D.

Final Fantasy Type-0 is going to be released at almost full price though, even if the improvements are only some difficulty adjustments and better graphics (I don't know if it's only the textures and effects or more) and no new content.
The same would be true for a DDD HD port, although there would probably at least a little bit of additional content.

Still great you've spotted this Sign, the textures of the Riku model are indeed improved so I guess the port/remake is on its way afterall.:biggrin: I still wonder why they copped out at delivering a Lea + his Keyblade card.

Also every time Okami is mentioned I have to tell everyone to buy it, because it's a really great game, the HD port even more.

That's partially because it's never been released here at all, though (unless that is also the Japanese price?). Remasters cost less because they're trying to get you to buy a game you may have already bought, that's not a major concern for Square and Type-0, I imagine.

In Japan, Type-0 sells for 5880 JPY which is roughly $50 USD, $41 Euro, and $58 AUD.

i could see 3DHD and X[chi] in a remaster all by itself, but what about a third title for cinematics? maybe we'll finally see bbs v2 resolved...

As much as I'd love to play a remastered Dream Drop Distance, THAT is something that I'd love to see more.

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It wouldn't need to have three. It can just be KH3D HD all on its own.



I like this idea, though~

If this turns out to be true, my day just keeps getting better and better!

Maybe it may end up being Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance Final Mix version HD, doubt it but it'd be interesting.

"A DDD HD Remaster would NEVER happen" they said
"Why would they need to remaster a title that was only made a few years ago?" they said
"There's no point for there to be a DDD remaster" they said

Glad I always had hope for a DDD remaster. I hope we get some good news soon about it.

*cough*There better not be a DDD HD collectors edition with 1.5 and 2.5 included in it or I'll scream*cough*

Denial is the first step towards acceptance~

Anger is the second, so I'll fulfill that part

If they do that they're ***holes.

:wink:

What's that! Did I hear "Of course Square Enix, I'll shell out $100+ for this collection with games I already own!" because I think I did

Woah! This is an amazing find! Good job and good eye! There's a chance that DDD might be remastered now!

There was always a chance! This is just a little piece of that proof (that they may or may not have expected people to notice) :D

They should have realised people would notice after they noticed Aqua having a different model in the X cards ;D

Ipad is about a 100 times more probable than Vita.



Ugh, 2 movies instead of 2 playable? Pass. I rather see Square take a page from MGSV Ground Zeroes & have the 3rd title be a glorified KH3 demo. Showcasing the game mechanics & graphics of KH3 but with it's own story. Essentially it would be akin to the Roxas prologue of KH2 spun off into it's own thing.

Of course that would mean 3.5 HD Remix can't be on PS3, but it's time to move on to next gen anyway.

I think it should be Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance] and the long awaited Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Vol 2, and a special bonus to a localized version of Kingdom Hearts χ. So no, I don't think Kingdom Hearts χ should be moved to a console, because I think part of the fun is the online browser game part. Instead, it should stay online, and, like I said, a special bonus should come with buying this new remaster, which I will call Kingdom Hearts HD 2.75 ReMIX, because it's not Kingdom Hearts III yet, so it can't be Kingdom Hearts HD 3.5 ReMIX. So yeah, my thoughts on that. Still, even just having Kingdom Hearts HD 3D [Dream Drop Distance] is a win on its own.

Run like shit on the iPad right now, honestly. Even if they released an app for it, it wouldn't solve the main issue they're facing with a western release with trying to find a local host for western players.

At least with the Vita, they could potentially use Sony's international servers for the game.

Isn't there a thing on the homepage that says it's not compatible with tablets?

And I thought iOS devices couldn't run Flash.

A few of the other members have been able to play it on tablets and mobile regardless.

It is possible if you use cloud Flash service. There are mobile browsers that you can use to access this feature and run Chi and any other Flash-based browser games on your device.

I hope they release Kingdom Hearts 3.5 that includes gameplay of 358/2 days, Recoded and Dream Drop Distance

who said i meant two movies? i mean X[chi] as title #2 being run on playstation's servers and bbs v2 as an original story. however, i've grown on the idea of having a demo for III instead and the game collection could be released on the Vita, PS4 or possibly both with the business model they used for PS All-Stars where you bought the PS3 game and got the Vita game free.

of course i doubt square would even spend the resources required but with remote play (or the III demo being a PS4 download only), there are enough possibilities to make this a reality.

I'D RATHER HAVE MIRAGE ARENA AS IT'S OWN GLORIOUS TITLE THOO

Ah, my bad then. That works too.

The question is, will the game be in stereoscopic 3D? I'm sure the answer is a big fat no, although that would be quite odd for a game officially called "Kingdom Hearts 3d".

They could just as easily fashion a new logo/subtitle that reads Dream Drop Distance without the '3D' to avoid misconception, but then again they shouldn't have to because it serves as an acronym for the game. Nomura's even said the 3D just adds to the meaning of the functionality but doesn't stand for third dimension here. It's like saying Kingdom Hearts BBS: Birth by Sleep or KH 2BS~ (lol)

Sora's model also has been updated, but I don't have better comparison images from 3D unfortunately. You can see the new gleams on his mask and the thinner lines on his outfit in the card though:

I'm sure they'll do it some time. They have to. It also has a lot of important story in it. Whoever plays khIII needs to see 3D. But only a few people get to play it on a 3DS. It was a random console for them to choose to put a kingdom hearts game on. But it was also really fun! I like trying to imagine what an HD version of the game would look like! It would be so different on the play station.

Next year is going to be delicious.

I always wonder if they expect anyone to actually notice these things or if I just need a hobby.

Better than most who would waste time actually looking for problems and making a scene about it. Never quit the job, better than nothing.

I have to say nice find. But, OathkeeperRoxasXIII said way better than complaining about glitch or so. If it was proven it was going to be remastered once with BBS then it will happen again!

Sign, you have such incredible eyes for detail~

Trust in Sign.

I really hope this happens. I'd like to pay this game... (And not just watch it like with Days and ReCoded.) Since it is the most pivotal side game, I think its important players should get the full experience of this. I only own a playstation 3 so would love it if they were remastering it for the PS3 before the release of KH3.

If this happens I expect DDD would be the HD release for next year, with KH3 following in 2016 for the PS4.

It should be a cheaper downloadable title if it's a standalone.

They essentially did the same thing when they released Chain of Memories on the Game Boy Advance, but they still ended up making a full remake of the game on the PS2 and PS3, so never give up hope there.

You can pretty much bank on never having a downloadable Kingdom Hearts game, haha.

Which saddens me since there is a really good market for that. While I personally prefer to have a physical copy whenever possible, I feel like it is better to have multiple options when it comes to getting the game, not just limiting it to one form or system. Disney AND Square Enix need to start thinking about that.

I do agree. A digital copy of the games priced at the same as a retail version would ensure they retain the same amount of profits while opening themselves up to a bigger audience. The best part of a possible digital release is that they could make it available on the PS4, in the case of 1.5 and 2.5, so then all of the games truly could be available on a single console.

Considering how open Square Enix is to making the majority of their games digital downloads, I think it's very safe to assume that there are reasons why they haven't been able to do so with Kingdom Hearts that we might not be aware of.

The reason no Kingdom Hearts game was released digitally at this point is called Utada Hikaru.:wink:

Nomura confirmed back when BBS came out that it has nothing to do with Utada or Disney. They have yet to disclose what the legal matter is.

I never download stuff so I'd prefera physical copy.



From what I've seen DDD seems to have quite good graphics that could could translate well to PS3. I don't know how much work they would need to put in to it to make it playable on the PS3... but I'm certainly hoping for the full game rather then the cutscenes Days and Coded got.

(Keep in mind if it releases and is for the PS4, SE and Disney have no choice but it make it digitally available)

If it releases for the PS4 but is using those models...well, mm. Not quite type 0 is it? Not that I'd mind so much, it'd give me more to play on the ps4 when I get it.

on one hand, this all sounds too good to be true.

but on the other hand, i remember last time our good staff secretly knew info about a kh game lol

And about Final Fantasy games on the PS4, don't forget about that time!

^^^^^^^^

I really can't tell if they'd just throw it on the PS3 or on the PS4. Oh poor sweet Nomura, so full of good intentions to have the series on one console but it is still never going to be. xD

oH GOD DON'T DO THIS TO ME PLEASE

Jump Festa line up got revealed, but keep in mind that Square Enix OFTEN have games at the event that they don't advertise so there's still potential for a Kingdom Hearts!

Why no choice? Why couldn't it be on a disc?

i i i i I I UM

well i'm looking forward to jump festa

It's funny seeing XV on there finally lol but what's Brave Exvius?

New smartphone title coming next year. You can read and view more about it here.

eh not that big on smart phone/tablet gaming but good for whoevers excited for it :)

She's not saying it can't be on a disc. Rather, it's required that all PS4 titles be made available digitally.

I'm more excited for Dimensions 2 / The Space-Time Crystal, myself, just because it's likely to be a full game.

(I also hold out hope that Square will keep porting its new, full games to Steam and you won't need a smartphone, but it has to be localized first... I know, neither of those steps are likely. Localization being unlikely in general, and FFIII and IV have been brought to Steam but Dimensions, V and VI haven't, so something must be special about III and IV.)

I'm looking forward to seeing more of Bravely Second and Final Fantasy Explorers. I just barely realized there is no release date estimate for Bravely Second so hopefully they will announce that.

Wow, uh, I guess I'm in the same boat, now that you say that.

I may sound like a total cynic, but I just don't think that KH 3D HD makes a whole ton of sense right now, for three reasons:

1. The game is designed for the 3DS.
Dream Drop Distance, unlike Birth By Sleep or other titles was made for a current gen system, moreover it was designed specifically for the 3DS. I think that due to this, they couldn't port it to a formal platform unless they ported it over to the Wii U, which to me is the only system that could support dual screen platform play. This was the case with both of the other DS titles, which were passed over due to the fact that they would be very difficult to port to a non dual screen system. If they did this however, it would kind of subvert their plans to have all the games on one system, and would kind of defeat the point of it being remade in the first place, and boil it down to merely a graphical and hardware update.

2. Kingdom Hearts 3D is the shortest game in the series.
Yes, I said it, KH3D was just a short game. Almost every other Kingdom Hearts game features at least 13 unique worlds, whereas DDD only had 7 worlds. If you count the worlds twice because of the dual story lines, I suppose you'd end up with 14 worlds, but there were really only 7 -Levels- per se. Besides, judging by that rule, Birth By Sleep would have 36 levels, since each character featured a total of 12 playable levels. Due to this, I don't think they'd be able to realistically push their efforts from Kingdom Hearts 3 just to churn out another remaster, especially since it'd be stand alone. There are no other games left to package it with, so it'd be kind of underwhelming.

3. They could just cover it in cutscenes in KH3.
In the previous Kingdom Hearts titles like 3D, for those who had not played preceding games they featured articles, or in 3D's case the chronicles sections. Also there were optional cutscenes which explained the storyline of the game, as well as the backstory of others. Several people theorize that just because it was featured in the credits of 2.5 it must be its own standalone game. I think it more likely that since it was included next to footage of 3, it'll most likely be included in 3 as either a way to catch people up via cutscenes, or chronicles. After all, the game was just a big filler until the end anyway, as basically nothing of substance was revealed until the game's climax, other than perhaps the Nobody's return.

At any rate, I think it very unlikely that they would remake a game as a standalone title that is relatively new, unplayable on PS3, short, and overall very sum-uppable. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love 3D, it was my first KH game! I would buy the living crap out of it! I love 3D, I just don't think it's that plausible a title.

3D more or less was made with the same engine as Birth by Sleep, for different platforms yes, but it would be about the same to port over. You're right that it would have to be overhauled a bit, but so? The WiiU thing will never, ever, ever happen so yes what they would have to do would be overhaul the gameplay. Which they could do easily than they could the other handhelds because this HD remaster would be a standalone title and so all the resources and time could go to improving it, besides if they were to take their time with it they could really make it stand out.

2. Kingdom Hearts 3D is the shortest game in the series.

No, it's not. That honor goes to Re:coded.

Yes, I said it, KH3D was just a short game. Almost every other Kingdom Hearts game features at least 13 unique worlds, whereas DDD only had 7 worlds. If you count the worlds twice because of the dual story lines, I suppose you'd end up with 14 worlds, but there were really only 7 -Levels- per se. Besides, judging by that rule, Birth By Sleep would have 36 levels, since each character featured a total of 12 playable levels. Due to this, I don't think they'd be able to realistically push their efforts from Kingdom Hearts 3 just to churn out another remaster, especially since it'd be stand alone. There are no other games left to package it with, so it'd be kind of underwhelming.

Don't devalue 3D's world selection because it's smaller. The worlds themselves are HUGE. On average, it takes about 37.4 hours to complete. That's longer than re:coded and Days and even a little longer than Chain of Memories.

Again, considering it's just by itself, that leaves more time to work on it. A very small team has been able to put together the collections one a year, and they've all had more content in them and more to remaster. 3D would require some restructuring, but it wouldn't be as difficult or time consuming by itself. Also, Osaka doesn't have to be the only Square team to working on these games.

3. They could just cover it in cutscenes in KH3. In the previous Kingdom Hearts titles like 3D, for those who had not played preceding games they featured articles, or in 3D's case the chronicles sections. Also there were optional cutscenes which explained the storyline of the game, as well as the backstory of others. Several people theorize that just because it was featured in the credits of 2.5 it must be its own standalone game. I think it more likely that since it was included next to footage of 3, it'll most likely be included in 3 as either a way to catch people up via cutscenes, or chronicles. After all, the game was just a big filler until the end anyway, as basically nothing of substance was revealed until the game's climax, other than perhaps the Nobody's return. At any rate, I think it very unlikely that they would remake a game as a standalone title that is relatively new, unplayable on PS3, short, and overall very sum-uppable. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love 3D, it was my first KH game! I would buy the living crap out of it! I love 3D, I just don't think it's that plausible a title.

I think it's more plausible than you think, I'm curious as to how they will handle it, but I'm confident we haven't seen the last of it.

All this means is another year without Kingdom Hearts 3 to keep fans at bay and preoccupied by another stupid re-hash....AAAAAAAAAARGH!!

Says the guy with a KH3D screenshot in his signature.

Regardless if KH3D HD is a thing or not, KH3 still won't be coming anytime soon.

The KH3D remake would likely be made by the team who created the 1.5 and 2.5 HD remakes. It's not like they're taking them off of the project, more like they never got on to it.

Besides, I can't be the only one who feels like a massive audience complaining about the story being related to "portable spinoffs" is going to impact KH3's quality as much as any actual quality faults from the game itself. Clearly Square feels that way. Constant, shrill negative feedback that goes on for years after the fact has a way of doing that.

Does anyone remember when everyone was complaining about the 3DS being an "obscure, failed" system and so they didn't/couldn't buy KH3D when it was on the shelves and widely available, making it the worst sold game in the series that isn't a remake, besides coded, despite being an essential part of the story of KH3? (It eventually outsold BBS in North America if the data I've got here is right, but that wasn't the case at the time, let me tell you.) I remember that.

With a few changes to the button layout, the game could be fully functional with a Dualshock 4. With the touchpad, all the reality shifts become a simple swipe with the thumb. And trust me, it comes naturally. I played Tomb Raider on the PS4 which utilised a thumb swipe to light the torch and that became second nature when it was time.

Also using the touchpad as a button would allow people to bring up the detailed maps. That way, all that work and detail isn't squandered and it's kept in tact.

2. Kingdom Hearts 3D is the shortest game in the series. Yes, I said it, KH3D was just a short game. Almost every other Kingdom Hearts game features at least 13 unique worlds, whereas DDD only had 7 worlds. If you count the worlds twice because of the dual story lines, I suppose you'd end up with 14 worlds, but there were really only 7 -Levels- per se. Besides, judging by that rule, Birth By Sleep would have 36 levels, since each character featured a total of 12 playable levels. Due to this, I don't think they'd be able to realistically push their efforts from Kingdom Hearts 3 just to churn out another remaster, especially since it'd be stand alone. There are no other games left to package it with, so it'd be kind of underwhelming.

It may not have the most worlds in it, but that doesn't mean it's the shortest. Dream Drop Distance surprised me by how long the game actually is. I was not expecting a 35-40 hour game.

They wouldn't be "pushing their efforts from Kingdom Hearts 3" to make this. There's already a team who made 1.5 and 2.5, right. That team remastered 2 games and made 3 hour cutscenes for another. Take a handful of those people and you have a team who can remaster only one game. The rest can be absorbed into the Kingdom Hearts 3 team.

3. They could just cover it in cutscenes in KH3. In the previous Kingdom Hearts titles like 3D, for those who had not played preceding games they featured articles, or in 3D's case the chronicles sections. Also there were optional cutscenes which explained the storyline of the game, as well as the backstory of others. Several people theorize that just because it was featured in the credits of 2.5 it must be its own standalone game. I think it more likely that since it was included next to footage of 3, it'll most likely be included in 3 as either a way to catch people up via cutscenes, or chronicles. After all, the game was just a big filler until the end anyway, as basically nothing of substance was revealed until the game's climax, other than perhaps the Nobody's return.

The game features somewhere between 6-7 hours of cutscenes I think. I do not want to have to watch 6-7 hours just to get a story. I'd rather play it and enjoy it. Especially since flowmotion is a fantastic feature that people should probably get use to before they play Kingdom Hearts 3.

Since they announced 1.5HD, and knowing about KH3... I thought they might be building the collections up to release year for KH3... So next year we get DDD for PS3 or PS4 or both with KH3 in late 2016 for PS4. It seems to make sense to me that could be what they are planning, especially with these HD collections.

KH3 was not coming in 2015 anyway. The game was just announced earlier this year and Nomura was just put on it full-time. I do think 3D will be the KH game in 2015 in some capacity, not sure in what form; and then KH3 will be in 2016. FFXV has an outside shot of being released in 2015 (I would be pleasantly surprised though), but there is no way KH3 is released in 2015.

I don't think it's impossible for 3D to be remade for PS3 or PS4, I didn't mean to make it sound that way. I just think it'd be a bit superfluous to remake a standalone game that already exists on a current gen platform. I think I'd rather have Dream Drop Distance Final Mix instead, which would be more in line with the spirit of what this title would be, save the HD elements. 3D actually has pretty good graphics, and save for a few things, I don't feel that it needs an HD overhaul. Not that I wouldn't buy it... and then buy it again... And put it on a golden shrine of KH in my house...

I agree with your thoughts, it is totally possible that I'm wrong, and that they wouldn't have *too* much trouble remaking it. (and hey, it's not like I haven't been wrong before! XD) I mean, hey, they are a video game company, this is what they do. :)
I just personally don't think it's necessary that they remake a game that you can already buy today. They could improve it, I just don't think they need to. The only reason I brought up a WiiU port was due to the similar hardware, full video touchscreen, gyro sensor, and camera, there wouldn't need to be much of a rehaul in the gameplay mechanics department.

With a few changes to the button layout, the game could be fully functional with a Dualshock 4. With the touchpad, all the reality shifts become a simple swipe with the thumb. And trust me, it comes naturally. I played Tomb Raider on the PS4 which utilised a thumb swipe to light the torch and that became second nature when it was time. Also using the touchpad as a button would allow people to bring up the detailed maps. That way, all that work and detail isn't squandered and it's kept in tact.

I hadn't thought about the touchscreen on the PS4 controller, interesting thought.
If they did remaster it, I think you are right, that'd be the way they'd do it.
Although while the Dualshock 4 does have a touchscreen, I'm not sure if it would work as well with 3D's gameplay.
About half the game, including the mini map, reality shifts, mini games, and spirit links take place on the touch screen. If remade for PS4, all but the core gameplay would have to be virtually remade completely to make it work on the Dualshock 4 controller. All touchscreen interface would have to be shifted to the television. The touchscreen on the Dualshock 4 and the 3DS touchscreen are fairly different, since the 3DS touchscreen allows you to see what is happening on-screen, and allows you to interact with it. The Dualshock 4 doesn't have this feature, and you would spend more time attempting to match your touch screen to the on-screen elements since you wouldn't be able to see the interface under your stylus (or finger). Moreover, the touchscreen on the Dualshock 4 isn't nearly as large or interactive as the 3DS touchscreen, and is used mainly for short motion gestures as opposed to long term interface. Even though the PS4 does have a touchscreen in it's controller, short motions aren't all that's needed of the touchscreen in 3D. In worlds like La Cite Des Cloches and TWTNW you had to connect several points with your stylus, which would be very difficult due to the lack of hand-eye coordination and visual interface.

It's not like I think the game would be impossible to make, or that it would suck if it would be made. I love 3D, I'd love to play it in Hd. I just think that the main point of the remasters wasn't just to remaster for remastering's sake, it was to allow players to experience Kingdom Heart's plot and understand it, since they were spread out over so many systems.
They made the remasters to allow the games to be accessible to the casual fan and the modern market again. Kingdom Hearts DDD doesn't have that problem, it's on a modern system that many people already own, with it being one of the more popular games on the platform. At this point, I just think it'd be kind of silly for them to devote time and resources to port a game from one already commercially available game system to another commercially available system.

... *don't hit me with a rock, I just want KH3 so bad yoo guyzzz!!!* >////<

Another way to remake it is..I think you can use a Vita for a controller in PS3/PS4 games, correct? Via Cross Controller?

And a Vita is basically a touchscreen. (I can hear the groans from here since you'd have to buy one) So they could have the second screen on the Vita.

If they did that, it'd be a reason for me to get a vita too, but I'd proly not pony up for one; don't have that much money in the first place, I'd proly just get the 3DS version unless there's a very compelling reason to get the new version. I'm already hoping that things get better in time for me to get a PS4 around here. ^^ Let alone a Vita...

My thoughts exactly.



I don't even think 2015 is a reality for FFXV unless Tabata works some kind of magic or SE gives him more staff. xD



"Current gen" or not (because with the New 3DS, I'd say the 3DS is halfway to last gen), that doesn't mean it is any less worth a port with an HD touch. Games get ported frequently and get updates along with those ports.

The graphics are fantastic for a 3DS title, but the size and scope of the worlds within KH3D would probably shine by being on large television screens. If there was one thing I hated about KH3D was that the worlds were larger than they have ever been in any past game, and yet it was hard to enjoy that large scope when viewing it all on a tiny screen.

I agree with your thoughts, it is totally possible that I'm wrong, and that they wouldn't have *too* much trouble remaking it. (and hey, it's not like I haven't been wrong before! XD) I mean, hey, they are a video game company, this is what they do. :) I just personally don't think it's necessary that they remake a game that you can already buy today. They could improve it, I just don't think they need to. The only reason I brought up a WiiU port was due to the similar hardware, full video touchscreen, gyro sensor, and camera, there wouldn't need to be much of a rehaul in the gameplay mechanics department.

Resident Evil fans could have bought Revelations on the 3DS but that didn't stop Capcom from porting and updating it for the PS3 then making a sequel of the game for home consoles only, ignoring whatever 3DS audience that game had.

And I don't think SE cares about what is on current gen or not. They have ported new mobile games to consoles after they got popular. This is a fairly similar concept, but for a different reason.

The camera really did nothing for the gameplay. It was a gimmick at best to make interacting with the Dream Eaters more interesting. You get a touch pad on the DS4, and a touch screen on the Vita, as well as a gyro in both. Whatever the WiiU could do can easily be accomplished on the PS4 + Vita.

Although while the Dualshock 4 does have a touchscreen, I'm not sure if it would work as well with 3D's gameplay. About half the game, including the mini map, reality shifts, mini games, and spirit links take place on the touch screen. If remade for PS4, all but the core gameplay would have to be virtually remade completely to make it work on the Dualshock 4 controller. All touchscreen interface would have to be shifted to the television. The touchscreen on the Dualshock 4 and the 3DS touchscreen are fairly different, since the 3DS touchscreen allows you to see what is happening on-screen, and allows you to interact with it. The Dualshock 4 doesn't have this feature, and you would spend more time attempting to match your touch screen to the on-screen elements since you wouldn't be able to see the interface under your stylus (or finger). Moreover, the touchscreen on the Dualshock 4 isn't nearly as large or interactive as the 3DS touchscreen, and is used mainly for short motion gestures as opposed to long term interface. Even though the PS4 does have a touchscreen in it's controller, short motions aren't all that's needed of the touchscreen in 3D. In worlds like La Cite Des Cloches and TWTNW you had to connect several points with your stylus, which would be very difficult due to the lack of hand-eye coordination and visual interface.

Again, this kind of stuff wasn't exactly the "core" of the gameplay. It is all unimportant in comparison to the ACTUAL core gameplay, which consisted of flowmotion, the command deck, and your Dream Eaters. Change the Flick Rush minigame to button + touchpad commands.

The touchpad will sense your touch. Remove the need of exact precision and instead by the context of how you move your fingers and it works exactly the same. Heck, there is also the lightbar sensor that can be added in if they want to play around with the PS4's functions.

They made the remasters to allow the games to be accessible to the casual fan and the modern market again. Kingdom Hearts DDD doesn't have that problem, it's on a modern system that many people already own, with it being one of the more popular games on the platform. At this point, I just think it'd be kind of silly for them to devote time and resources to port a game from one already commercially available game system to another commercially available system.

And yet it is still the core audience buying these remasters, not the casual fans. There are some, but I think just by looking at the sales numbers is a sign of what audience is actually picking these games up.

If this was already planned, they wouldn't be wasting time and resources that have already been allocated.

... *don't hit me with a rock, I just want KH3 so bad yoo guyzzz!!!* >////<

KH3 won't be coming any sooner just by them not making a HD remaster of one more game. The people who worked on 1.5 and 2.5 are a super tiny team that have never had anything do with KH3. It was literally two programmers and a few planners working on 1.5, and a few other people joined on to help wrap things up. The staff for 2.5 was the same (which was 70 people) and they remastered 2 games and made a 3 hour cutscene theater in a year.

As for monetary resources, Square Enix probably spent more on remastering the music for 1.5 and 2.5 than they did on the games themselves. Time resources are nothing when KH3 still won't be coming out any time remotely soon and adding the people who worked on 1.5 and 2.5 onto KH3 isn't going make things move any faster.

People can be hired, work can be outsourced if truly necessary.

So it is either we get something next year or we get nothing. I would prefer something.

Touché. However I'm not saying KH 3DS wasn't a good game; it's just that this will impede the development of KH3 like KH 1.5 and 2.5 (Still excited though for 2.5 (2 is by far my favorite))

The remasters did not and are not impeding the development of KH3. Square Enix and Nomura were impeding the development of KH3. From day one it was, "well, the KH team is working on Versus so Osaka will be doing this" and then it was "I am considering it, but the KH team is still busy and we have requests on other systems" and it goes on and on and on.

Because a team of planners and like two (+ those who willingly decided to help along the way) programmers is hindering KH3's development.

Keep in mind that not everybody is working on KH3 at one time. Certain work must be finished before others can do anything, and some people may finish up their job and be free to do something else. That is why you see people come and go during a dev cycle.

According to Tai Yasue, over 70 people worked on HD 2.5 ReMIX, which was more than 1.5. Only a handful of those people would really be needed to do a Remaster for one game instead of 2 + 3 hours of cutscenes leaving the rest to be absorbed into the existing Kingdom Hearts 3 team.

I always forget about that interview. I was mistaken about 2.5 (and even still those 70 people likely did not work on it all at the same time) but yes, that is also true.

I would like something new too... I am just a bit weary of rehashes and remakes from SE.
I didn't say that the game's dev would take away from KH3, just that I think it's a bit silly to remake the latest installment in the series two years after it's initial release. It may have happened before, but that doesn't mean that it's not a little bit unnecessary.

I mean, if it's that or nothing I'll buy it, I'll play it, I'll love it. I just don't think that we need to beat the horse to death with remasters, I'd just rather have original content. :)

I know they aren't but I'm saying that having anther game on their plate isn't exactly helping them either in terms of finishing the game. Besides, don't they usually put new content in the remakes? Story-wise and gameplay wise? So I'd assume that their programmers and even Tetsuya will have to work on that.

Again, not really when the number of people they would need to work on a remaster of one game would be minimal.

No, they don't. Not always. For example, Type-0 HD is purely a visual remaster. No new content has been added besides some new costumes that have yet to be revealed but that is purely cosmetic.

They wouldn't have to add anything new unless they wanted to, and if they do that is something they would have already taken in account in relation to KH3.

Alright if you say so. You seem to know what your talking about.

3DHD would probably be the best "side" game they could make. 1.5 had only one title in my opinion that was worth remaking while RE:COM was on its second port and the 358/2 theater offered nearly nothing of substance while 2.5 has arguably two of the best titles in the series and RE:coded in cutscenes (not much there however a large portion of it are new scenes).

3D was one of my favorite games (my favorite 3DS game), the only things that held it back were the lack of buttons and triggers discounting the superfluous circle pad pro, and the small screen being a 3DS title. considering the scope of the worlds, it could be a console title on its own. also considering how integral it is to understanding III while it was only released to the limited audience of the 3DS, it has twice as much reason to be ported. however, certain issues could be fixed including the flatness of the backgrounds due to the limited hardware of the handheld and some glitchy platforming.

let's not forget all of the extra disc space, maybe they could add some extra features, i wonder how they would handle the (very limited) multiplayer if it was given the 2.5 bbs treatment. and above all, with nomura's want to release a kingdom hearts game every year and square enix' want to make money, i can see it as a possibility and i'd love to have this game remade especially if its either this or nothing.

i wouldn't complain if we got X[chi] next year either

I think for the last 10 years Kingdom Hearts has always been present at Jump Festa. Would be funny to see them break the tradition tho, especially when they have an announced KH game in the works with last trailer being over a year old.

I do expect DDD HD to be there. Best excuse for not having to talk about KH3.

Perhaps, if Dream Drop Distance is being ported over to PS3/PS4 then it will be a new HD Final Mix version instead of just the original 3DS game. Instead of just being a Japan exclusive for years on end, it would be released the world over?

that'd be ideal because then SE would have a better rep with its fan and there really isn't a point in waiting 5 more years for a superior version japan already has and fans don't feel familiar with it from analyzing the screenshots, scenes and gameplay repeatedly.

especially considering, wasn't julius exclusive to NA and EU versions or am i wrong?

If this would be the case we also would have a Dream Drop Distance Final Mix by now. The unspoken rules for the release of a Final Mix are:
1. If there is new content in the NA/EU version then there will be a Final Mix.
2. If Nomura says there won't be a Final Mix then there will be one.
3. If it's on a Nintendo console there probably won't be one but a remake/remaster instead.

By the way you can also see the differences on the Country of the Musketeers cards released one year ago and the new ones, they are more subtle but for example the buckles on the boots look a bit sharper now.

Lol! I didn't quite understand it before. But now I know it's in the end credits! That was really great! Do you think it'll be the same and you get to play it? Or will it just be an added movie on something else? I hope it'll be a video game. I loved the gameplay in 3D!

I'm only just starting playing 2.5, and I'm sure a lot of people are too. The first thing I did of course was watch the movie.

So...
I gave out this idea in a different forum, but I'll mention it again since Norma doesn't want DDD to stand alone in HD.
A 0.5 Remix should get released for PS3 or Wii or Wii U (Preferably the first two).
This won't include Chi, but perhaps we'll get our official version after 0.5. Instead it will have DDD HD (DDD HD Final Mix, but that would be a low chance), and playable DS games using the scenes in 1.5 and 2.5. If that were to happen, I can just knock out 3DS off my wishlist!
Wishful thinking here.

I could see DDD HD being a PSN title if its gonna be standalone to be honest. Same goes for Chi.


Also, don't see why Square would make DDD for the Wii. That things dead. There's no money in it anymore. All the 3rd party's have moved to more current/relevant consoles.

It's not a remake though, it's just a home console port. There doesn't need to be a number of years between the original release and the port for it to be relevant.
It's to reach a user base outside of 3DS owners (such as me :p)

Yes, yes there will be a HD port of Dream Drop Distance!

Okay this thread is almost a year old.