KINGDOM HEARTS 2.5 Contains II, Birth by Sleep and coded?
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- Published on March 14, 2013 @ 06:07 am
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Yes, you read that correctly! During the credits for KINGDOM HEARTS -HD 1.5 ReMIX-, there are certain images shown from select titles, specifically KINGDOM HEARTS II, Birth by Sleep and coded. This seems to suggest that the next remaster, KINGDOM HEARTS -HD 2.5 ReMIX- will be comprised of these titles!
We will continue to inform you all about this rumor as more information comes in.
Thanks to Zephyr for the translations!
During the credits of KH HD ReMIX, we've found recordings for 2.5!? *Spoiler Warning* KH HD ReMIX was released today for the public to play. During the footage, it seems to reveal what the next work will be. Please see this for yourself. Please note that the person who mentioned this is not associated with working on the title.
Three titles are called out during the credits. During the staff roll, there was footage of coded and Birth by Sleep.
Update: From Leta_jp's livestream we can confirm that KINGDOM HEARTS II, Birth By Sleep, and coded cutscenes were shown in the credits.
Kingdom Hearts II
Kingdom Hearts Coded
Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep
Source: aibo_ac7, 2ch user ID: Z33aizgP0, Game Jouhou
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Re: KINGDOM HEARTS 2.5 Contains KINGDOM HEARTS II, Birth by Sleep and coded?
Boom package.
Re: KINGDOM HEARTS 2.5 Contains KINGDOM HEARTS II, Birth by Sleep and coded?
Oh my gooooooosh, if this is true, people can finally stop theorizing that 3D is going to be remastered
That's... the first thing that came to your mind!? ;A;
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OMFG I think i just wet myself i'm so excited XD
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Best news of all the news so far!!
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Well that's cool!
Oh my gooooooosh, if this is true, people can finally stop theorizing that 3D is going to be remastered
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Aha! Knew it! Hopefully it comes out quickly. The latest hopefully is early 2014. They shouldn't have to do too much right? These three games aren't as old as KH or CoM. I don't know the process of what they do so...
And of course there'd be no 3D. It just wouldn't make sense. I'd be sort of pissed if they did considering I bought a 3DS just for it. (I would have been just fine with a regular DS lol.)
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am i allowed to die yet?
Re: KINGDOM HEARTS 2.5 Contains KINGDOM HEARTS II, Birth by Sleep and coded?
Knew it!
BBS:FM and KH2:FM... I'm ready.
am i allowed to die yet?
no what if more news??????????????????
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FOOTAGE? ohemgee. Someone needs to upload that shit on the net ASAP.
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Sounds like someone unlocked the Speedster trophy.
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Finally KH2FM in english...all i ever wanted ;A;
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no what if more news??????????????????
then good luck to you all
*dead*
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Sounds like someone unlocked the Speedster trophy.
8D
no what if more news??????????????????
then the news shall go to the grave with us all and nobody will see
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Finally KH2FM in english...all i ever wanted ;A;
Well, they technically never said "Final Mix" for either KHII for BBS 8D
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Was hoping it was kh3 related but I guess this could wrk too
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then good luck to you all
*dead*
8D
then the news shall go to the grave with us all and nobody will see
but you've come this far!!!!!!!
Well, they technically never said "Final Mix" for either KHII for BBS 8D
They'll be in it!
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Was hoping it was kh3 related but I guess this could wrk too
Trust me. This will be worth it.
They'll be in it!
SO WILL VOLUME 2.
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Well, they technically never said "Final Mix" for either KHII for BBS 8D
Hey bro...hey...hey bro y u gotta crush my hopes like that?
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SO WILL VOLUME 2.
i think i hate you a little why must you break my heart with bbsv2
Hey bro...hey...hey bro y u gotta crush my hopes like that?
It's only natural that it would be the FM's~
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It's only natural that it would be the FM's~
Yep, since the FMs are like the "definite" versions of the games.
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As for KH 3-related, I don't know why people would expect something like that in the first collection.
If this collection hinting at the next one however I think it cannot be completely ruled out that the second collection will have at least a small teaser for KH III after the credits.
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Was hoping it was kh3 related but I guess this could wrk too
lol we won't hear anything about kh3 for a looooooooooooooooong time. I can't wait to replay DDD all over again! I bet that's next.
2 maybe a little more complicated because remember they had to change content for the North American release to get an E10, then they put all the cut content back for Final Mix. They might have to do 2 versions of 2FM if they were to bring an HD version out in North America.
2 maybe a little more complicated because remember they had to change content for the North American release to get an E10, then they put all the cut content back for Final Mix. They might have to do 2 versions of 2FM if they were to bring an HD version out in North America.
They actually put a crap load of extra scenes into the FM as well. Ratings are a bit more lenient these days, so there's no reason we shouldn't be able to see KH2 the way it was originally.
If the jiggly boobies and getting shot in the eye was no censored, I'm hoping they'd keep it normal.
confirmed to be in credits
Hopefully that means 2.5 is right around the corner. Thanks again guys! <3
Hopefully that means 2.5 is right around the corner. Thanks again guys! <3
Volume 2 with it? :D
Volume 2 with it? :D
Only if Nomura loves me which I know he doesn't.
Will be extremely disappointed if we don't get KH 3D on the PS3. It's too important not to include in a collection meant to brings all the players up to date with what is going on in the series.
Who knows. KH 3D + KH 3?
Will be extremely disappointed if we don't get KH 3D on the PS3. It's too important not to include in a collection meant to brings all the players up to date with what is going on in the series.
KH 2 and BBS are just as important as DDD, since without those two many of the reveals and stuff in DDD aren't really understandable.
KH 2 and BBS are just as important as DDD, since without those two many of the reveals and stuff in DDD aren't really understandable.
Where did I say they are not? :tongue: I am not remasters of BBS and KH 2, on the contrary. I just pointed out that they need to do something about KH3D. They have such a huge scheme -to bring all of the series remastered and updated under one console- it would be a shame to leave a game as important as 3D out. Especially considering Nomura says in every freaking interview that he is preparing us for "the final entry/battle" etc.
I am still hoping for a remastered final mix version of the game.
is there a version i can buy that just has bbs, I don't want kh2
is there a version i can buy that just has bbs, I don't want kh2
You can buy BBS for the PSP. Otherwise? Nope.
Where did I say they are not? :tongue: I am not remasters of BBS and KH 2, on the contrary. I just pointed out that they need to do something about KH3D. They have such a huge scheme -to bring all of the series remastered and updated under one console- it would be a shame to leave a game as important as 3D out. Especially considering Nomura says in every freaking interview that he is preparing us for "the final entry/battle" etc.
I am still hoping for a remastered final mix version of the game.
You didn't, lol. I guess I am probably just soured by all the comments I read about people wanting to leave out BBS in favour of DDD which makes no sense since not only are KH 2, Coded and DDD littered with references to BBS, after KH 1 and 2 BBS is also the most important title story-wise and it's on an already dead console and therefore in more need to be remastered than DDD, which is on a current console.
The easiest way to include DDD would really be to include the cutscenes in HD just like Days. Re: Coded has way less important content than Days has, so including both Re: Coded and DDD would be actually highly logical, since they could forego all the remapping controls and other stuff they would need to do to readjust DDD for the PS3. BBS is certainly easier to adjust for PS3-play than DDD is.
is there a version i can buy that just has bbs, I don't want kh2
We're most likely getting KH 2 Final Mix, the one with the biggest bucket of additions in the series, not the original KH 2, so that's already something.
I guess I am probably just soured by all the comments I read about people wanting to leave out BBS in favour of DDD
Really? Because I've seen nothing but praise for BBS, so many calling it the highlight of the collection.
I would be one to support BBS for the collection over DDD. I felt that there was a lot missing with Dream Drop Distance, but that things were tied up nicely with Birth By Sleep. Really, also, BBS is what defined and set the saga to the course it is on now.
What would even really be the point of releasing a DDD so close to when it was first released anyways... I'm all gain for BBS being done over on PS3.
Really? Because I've seen nothing but praise for BBS, so many calling it the highlight of the collection.
I guess it's pretty balanced then, as I've seen several who insist on having DDD in the collection or claim that BBS shouldn't be in it because it "doesn't fit" with the title of 2.5 and murks up the chronology because it's a prequel.
I guess it's pretty balanced then, as I've seen several who insist on having DDD in the collection or claim that BBS shouldn't be in it because it "doesn't fit" with the title of 2.5 and murks up the chronology because it's a prequel.
I agree with some say DDD os 'better' than BBS, and think BBs doesn't fit in 2.5, but without the prequel, we're blind. So it will be
-KH2 FM+
-BBS FM
-Re:Coded and DDD cutscenes
Still will only need a PS3 and a 3DS
This is aweosme. This also confirms my fear that we will not see DDD.... :(
But I hope they do a 0.5 collection. Which includes DDD and Volume 2.
This is aweosme. This also confirms my fear that we will not see DDD.... :(
But I hope they do a 0.5 collection. Which includes DDD and Volume 2.
There is no Volume 2. Sorry
There is no Volume 2. Sorry
Yeah I know. Just like there wasn't a I.5 ReMIX.
Edit: Am I the only one here being optimistic about this? Nomura said he wants to bring all the games on the consoles. How the heck would DDD being left out help at any way at all?
Yeah I know. Just like there wasn't a I.5 ReMIX.
What?
| Edit: Am I the only one here being optimistic about this? Nomura said he wants to bring all the games on the consoles. How the heck would DDD being left out help at any way at all? |
I'm sure he could make it happen. As a standalone or bundled with KH3.
Gonna upload some more pictures for you guys so you don't have to search through that long video.
this is great news!!
I wonder though..
could this also mean...
BIRTH BY SLEEP VOLUME 2?!?
this is great news!!
I wonder though..
could this also mean...
BIRTH BY SLEEP VOLUME 2?!?
Unfortunately no.
Nomura has said that there is a story there to be told, however it will not be told in the form of a game(or in any way for that matter).
Personally, I was hoping the cutscenes to be integrated into these HD collections but the lack of the Days scenes from that video appearing in the Days theatre shot that theory down.
I'm only mentioning Volume 2 because that will be an excuse to ship it with DDD. I do hope they atleast make it in a cutscene only format and release it with KH3.
Finally, I'll be able to play BBS!
Awesome news to wake up to!
For anyone who did actually doubt this wouldn't be the Final Mix edition of II.
Really excited for KH2FM & BbSFM (I want that Monstro fight!).. I know it's unlikely, but it would be nice to have 3D a part of it as well (and playable). I know Re:coded will probably be cutscenes, and that's fine, but it'd be cool to play it as well.
For anyone who did actually doubt this wouldn't be the Final Mix edition of II.
So wait. Are they putting screens from the original FM, or is that a bigger resolution? Does that mean they have already started remastering the games?
So wait. Are they putting screens from the original FM, or is that a bigger resolution? Does that mean they have already started remastering the games?
I'm not quite understanding what you mean?
And it's possible they have started, but probably just the basics like what games are going in it :P
I'm not quite understanding what you mean?
And it's possible they have started, but probably just the basics like what games are going in it :P
Yeah it's kinda confusing. What I meant is, are those screens of KH2 and BBS that are in the credits, footage of the original game (did they copy paste it in the credits?) or are they reworked versions with higher quality and new models?
Updated OP with Birth by Sleep. All images are clickable to a larger version minus one because I stuffed up.
Yeah it's kinda confusing. What I meant is, are those screens of KH2 and BBS that are in the credits, footage of the original game (did they copy paste it in the credits?) or are they reworked versions with higher quality and new models?
Footage from the original game. They haven't been touched up yet. You can tell by the general blurryness of the images.
Yeah it's kinda confusing. What I meant is, are those screens of KH2 and BBS that are in the credits, footage of the original game (did they copy paste it in the credits?) or are they reworked versions with higher quality and new models?
it's hard to tell, since the scenes in these credits are cropped..
I do think they already started though :D
better have dream drop distance with it, dont want to have to buy a crummy 3ds to play it.
Watching the stream now. The orchestra versions of the ost is quite awesome. I wonder if Yoko will do the KH3 ost with real instruments.
I was right Khinsider!! DDD is too recent to get a remaster.
Hopefully 1.5 and 2.5 get PS4 releases sometime next year
this comes as no surprise. this is exactly what i said was going to happen when they announced 1.5
It will be very interesting to see how they're going to do Coded. They would have to create a lot from scratch, wouldn't they?
So, as I (and almost everyone here) expected, it's going to be Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix, Birth by Sleep Final Mix and Re:coded (probably this one being cutscenes-only).
About DDD, could it really be possible that they bundle it (cutscenes-only, I guess) with KH3? I mean, it's not going to be a "collection", so is it ok to put another "game" along with a totally new installment?
Also, people are talking about those two HD Collections being also released on PS4. Has this ever happened? But I guess it won't be necessary if KH3 actually gets released on PS3 (unlikely, though. Or isn't it?).
It will be very interesting to see how they're going to do Coded. They would have to create a lot from scratch, wouldn't they?
Considering that that's the only game in the series I put my foot down and said "NO" to, they'd best get it right. I don't want to play it if it sucks still :( I'd rather watch it in cutscenes honestly, but even THAT would be a chore...
I could easily see Square releasing DDD as a stand alone remastered in the vain of RE: Revelations in a couple years. Which means I'm going to push my KH 3 expactations back a year just in case.
Considering that that's the only game in the series I put my foot down and said "NO" to, they'd best get it right. I don't want to play it if it sucks still :( I'd rather watch it in cutscenes honestly, but even THAT would be a chore...
People who actually played the game thought it was fun. Even if the story wasn't all that big a deal. But yeah, I would expect Coded to be just cutscenes like Days.
better have dream drop distance with it, dont want to have to buy a crummy 3ds to play it.
You don't want to play Pokemon?
Coded has two or three important things beside just the secret ending, not to mention that it further elaborates on the "hearts can be born everywhere"-fact confirmed in DDD with the Data-existences.
All that can be easily summed up in some cutscenes though. Way easier than to sum up the story of Days, so Coded being HD cutscenes would actually make more sense even than Days.
They actually put a crap load of extra scenes into the FM as well. Ratings are a bit more lenient these days, so there's no reason we shouldn't be able to see KH2 the way it was originally.
If the jiggly boobies and getting shot in the eye was no censored, I'm hoping they'd keep it normal.
If they were to put the North American versions of the content back for this HD version: the only part from 2's Final Mix content that I would look at and say they might have to change that is Sora hurling Marluxia's scythe at him.
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Sounds like someone unlocked the Speedster trophy.
I saw Leta JP unlocked the credits when he finished watching Days so it looks like you can unlock it in the main menu under about two hours.
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I saw Leta JP unlocked the credits when he finished watching Days so it looks like you can unlock it in the main menu under about two hours.
Didn't expect that.
So, is it the same credits for the three games?
I hope there's online and split-screen multiplayer for Mirage Arena.
People, people, be optimistic!
It's possible that they didn't include DDD cutscenes in the credits because they plan to reveal DDD as part of the collection AFTER the initial 2.5 announcement.
This screenshot:
is what makes me think DDD will be in KH2.5. It's designed so that the rest of the coloured lines will be grouped together once 2.5 is being hyped.
Ermahgerd! This series is going to be the death of me. Think 2.5 will be a release title for the ps4?
Think 2.5 will be a release title for the ps4?
Nope, the HD ReMixes are for the ps3.
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Didn't expect that.
So, is it the same credits for the three games?
The credits are different for each game but there's a separate fourth credit in the main menu before you select KHFM, Re:CoM, and Days.
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The credits are different for each game but there's a separate fourth credit in the main menu before you select KHFM, Re:CoM, and Days.
Oh, I get it. So once you "beat" one of the three games, you unlock the fourth one. Interesting.
Nope, the HD ReMixes are for the ps3.
thank god, let the saga end on it too
I'm hoping (Doubt it's going to happen) they make some good additions/changes to BBSFM.
More enemies in the Mirage Arena, NPCs in towns, fix that "dollhouse" feel the worlds have... I can't think of anything else.
I've wanted KHII:FM for as long as I can remember lol, but BBS makes it that much better. Yay. <3 Wish I would have seen this coming, I could have spent a lot less money in the long run.
I've wanted KHII:FM for as long as I can remember lol, but BBS makes it that much better. Yay. <3 Wish I would have seen this coming, I could have spent a lot less money in the long run.
Remember, it'll probably be KH II: FM and BBS: FM. It makes the 2.5 collection that much more awesome.
I wonder if they're gonna remake Coded or just put cutscenes in it. There isn't that much to work with in terms of story as far as I remember it.
I would be fine with coded being just cutscenes, like Days. And I don't know too much about BBS:FM other than the extra Aqua episode at the end, but still it's a bonus for sure.
Here's hoping those extra's you unlock in KHIIFM+ through RE:CoM (and vice versa) are still in there. :3
Ohhhh, coolies!
: D
I'm excited to see what kind of changes we may see in KHII with the upcoming KH II.5 HD ReMIX
I would be fine with coded being just cutscenes, like Days. And I don't know too much about BBS:FM other than the extra Aqua episode at the end, but still it's a bonus for sure.
And the most difficult KH boss fight ever. No Heart.
Birth by Sleep is my favorite game in the series, so I am glad its getting the HD face lift. 2 is going to be incredible in HD. And I can finally "try" and beat Terra in KH2.
Finally I can play Aqua: Dark realm escape in english and on the big screen. I hope she come back to record for it. Heck they could even add on some extra thing. Oh and the online player mode could actually be fun now?
And the most difficult KH boss fight ever. No Heart.
Second hardest KH boss fight IMO... 2FM's Lingering Sentiment is still harder.
Really? Because I've seen nothing but praise for BBS, so many calling it the highlight of the entire series.
Fixed it for you :) jk
I could easily see Square releasing DDD as a stand alone remastered in the vain of RE: Revelations in a couple years. Which means I'm going to push my KH 3 expactations back a year just in case.
I was thinking that, what if they summarized DDD by making it into cutscenes and let it be included on the KH3 disc? I mean, then they could wait longer for DDD itself to get older as a game while having more time to work on the cutscenes and also help informing people of all the events right up to KH3.
I would be fine with coded being just cutscenes, like Days. And I don't know too much about BBS:FM other than the extra Aqua episode at the end, but still it's a bonus for sure.
In terms of bigger new things you can also fight Eraqus' Lingering Sentiment in Mirage Arena as well as Monstro (yeah...the whole whale haha), No Heart as a new boss, and some other things like new command styles, etc. ^_^
Second hardest KH boss fight IMO... 2FM's Lingering Sentiment is still harder.
I agree lol Well, we are talking about Terra right? Because with Aqua and Ven no boss is difficult considering you can dodge roll or cartwheel your way out of pretty much anything, but Terra...not so much (stupid slide!!!!)
Pete being a D-Link, the Neverland command board and the fourth Rumble Racing track were already in the western version though, those are no new features of the Final Mix.
Pete being a D-Link, the Neverland command board and the fourth Rumble Racing track were already in the western version though, those are no new features of the Final Mix.
lol you're right, sorry...I was comparing it to the Jap. version which was originally my main file...
BIRTH BY SLEEEEEEPPPPPP
Man, a remaster would do that game so much good! The PSP version was good and all but I think it had more potential. This could be the first time we get flawless multiplayer, too! (Mirage Arena, anyone?)
Anyway, from the looks of KH1.5 the games aren't continuous, so it could work (besides the fact that BBS is like KH-1)
I would be one to support BBS for the collection over DDD. I felt that there was a lot missing with Dream Drop Distance, but that things were tied up nicely with Birth By Sleep. Really, also, BBS is what defined and set the saga to the course it is on now.
What would even really be the point of releasing a DDD so close to when it was first released anyways... I'm all gain for BBS being done over on PS3.
Well, the point is that by the time 2.5 is released, DDD will have been on the market for around 2 years or more, which would probably put an end to the exclusivity time on the 3DS. Honestly, I would like DDD to be included in the collection.
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I saw Leta JP unlocked the credits when he finished watching Days so it looks like you can unlock it in the main menu under about two hours.
Okay people need to stop trying to make a DDD HD version happen, it's not going to happen.
Square-Enix, yet again, leakes something
I guess it's pretty balanced then, as I've seen several who insist on having DDD in the collection or claim that BBS shouldn't be in it because it "doesn't fit" with the title of 2.5 and murks up the chronology because it's a prequel.
Those people seem to primarily be from KHI, lol. Outside of the forums there seems to be a lot of positive reception for 2.5 due to BBS alone (like on neogaf). It wasn't played by a lot of people because of it being on the PSP and never making it to the PSN.
It will be very interesting to see how they're going to do Coded. They would have to create a lot from scratch, wouldn't they?
As with Days. Coded is also a short story.
Square-Enix, yet again, leakes something
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Okay people need to stop trying to make a DDD HD version happen, it's not going to happen.
Do you realize how many people including myself won't be able to play this game just because it's on a handheld?
Stop being being so negative about the subject. The HD collections aren't for "collection" purposes. They weren't made because some people just like to have an unopened KH product on their shelves. It was made for people who couldn't play any of the KH games other than 1 and 2. So not making DDD - which is basically the prologue to KH3 - for the PS3 seems stupid.
Okay people need to stop trying to make a DDD HD version happen, it's not going to happen.
Well, we don't know whats going to happen. They could very well make a DDD HD, and it's important for us to not shoot down any possibilities.
Square-Enix, yet again, leakes something
What did they leak?
Do you realize how many people including myself won't be able to play this game just because it's on a handheld?
Stop being being so negative about the subject. The HD collections aren't for "collection" purposes. They weren't made because some people just like to have an unopened KH product on their shelves. It was made for people who couldn't play any of the KH games other than 1 and 2. So not making DDD - which is basically the prologue to KH3 - for the PS3 seems stupid.
He was quoting the film Mean Girls, not trying to be negative.
Do you realize how many people including myself won't be able to play this game just because it's on a handheld?
Stop being being so negative about the subject. The HD collections aren't for "collection" purposes. They weren't made because some people just like to have an unopened KH product on their shelves. It was made for people who couldn't play any of the KH games other than 1 and 2. So not making DDD - which is basically the prologue to KH3 - for the PS3 seems stupid.
I'm not being negative. I'm being realistic. And I AM one of those people who aren't able to play it because I don't have a 3DS myself, so sit. It wouldnt be so easy for them to port it, a lot of the gameplay mechanics were made for the 3DS specifically. I'm not saying it couldn't happen but it won't happen anytime soon thats for sure. Jeez, I was partly joking anyway. I'd like to see an HD version just as much as anyone else would. Take a chill pill...
It wouldnt be so easy for them to port it, a lot of the gameplay mechanics were made for the 3DS specifically.
They managed to do it for that Residents Evil game.
I'm not being negative. I'm being realistic. And I AM one of those people who aren't able to play it because I don't have a 3DS myself, so sit. It wouldnt be so easy for them to port it, a lot of the gameplay mechanics were made for the 3DS specifically. I'm not saying it couldn't happen but it won't happen anytime soon thats for sure. Jeez, I was partly joking anyway. I'd like to see an HD version just as much as anyone else would. Take a chill pill...
That doesn't mean they can't make it into a cutscene format like they did with Days.
Also you say that you yourself don't have a 3ds. You then realize how important it is to bring it on the PS3, either a remaster or in a cutscene format.
They managed to do it for that Residents Evil game.
Haven't followed the series yet, which one?
Yes. BBS all the way. Hope these pics will turn into 2.5
That doesn't mean they can't make it into a cutscene format like they did with Days.
Also you say that you yourself don't have a 3ds. You then realize how important it is to bring it on the PS3, either a remaster or in a cutscene format.
It would really suck for DDD to be reduced to cutscenes only.
I can't see it not eventually being remade for the PS3 or included in another collection down the road.
Haven't followed the series yet, which one?
Revelations
Haven't followed the series yet, which one?
Pretty sure there's only one 3DS RE game and thats Revelations.
It would really suck for DDD to be reduced to cutscenes only.
I can't see it not eventually being remade for the PS3 or included in another collection down the road.
I'll be happy as long as I get to have it in my hands.
Pretty sure there's only one 3DS RE game and thats Revelations.
There are two games. You're forgetting The Mercenaries!
Those people seem to primarily be from KHI, lol. Outside of the forums there seems to be a lot of positive reception for 2.5 due to BBS alone (like on neogaf). It wasn't played by a lot of people because of it being on the PSP and never making it to the PSN.
As with Days. Coded is also a short story.
The game is released in Japan.
And other English KH forums it seems, idk which ones since when I'm just reading around outside KHI I normally don't pay much attention to urls.
The story of Coded is even shorter than Days since it originally was a lightweight game for a cell phone requested by Disney only ported to the DS afterwards.
Do you realize how many people including myself won't be able to play this game just because it's on a handheld?
Stop being being so negative about the subject. The HD collections aren't for "collection" purposes. They weren't made because some people just like to have an unopened KH product on their shelves. It was made for people who couldn't play any of the KH games other than 1 and 2. So not making DDD - which is basically the prologue to KH3 - for the PS3 seems stupid.
There's a glaring difference between Birth by Sleep and Dream Drop Distance though. The former is on an old, nearly completely dead console and required for understanding the whole story, especially DDD which expands heavily on already established concepts, several which were introduced in BBS.
The latter is on a modern, current gen console and builds upon the other games in the series, it is already on top in technical terms as well.
So the simple logic is that DDD simply isn't that urgent to be remastered when comparing it to BBS, which as Taochan pointed out, isn't really that well-known and not played by more people than who can't play DDD (many people have a 3DS or will get one, mostly for stuff like Pokemon, while the PSP is close to be junk) despite it's overall importance to the series (KH 0!).
That being said, the HD collections have three main aims:
1. Remedy the issue about the story being spread over so many systems.
2. Bring the fanbase up to speed by using a home console to center the series on.
3. Possibly gain completely new fans who can play the whole series in one/two swoops.
These goals would of course have to include Dream Drop Distance in some form as very important revelations and story points are introduced in it.
I doubt that anyone would actually want to exclude DDD completely.
However, including DDD does not mean that it has to be included as a full game in every case. In order to convey the Key points of the story a cutscene collection would be sufficient as well and would save Square Enix much time and money.
There are two games. You're forgetting The Mercenaries!
Pretty sure there's only one 3DS RE game and thats Revelations.
Aye, thank you now I know. While I might have a 3DS one day, I like to see DDD HD
There are two games. You're forgetting The Mercenaries!
I don't follow the series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And other English KH forums it seems, idk which ones since when I'm just reading around outside KHI I normally don't pay much attention to urls.
I'm surprised that many english forums that aren't KH specific are even that aware of DDD's importance.
| The story of Coded is even shorter than Days since it originally was a lightweight game for a cell phone requested by Disney only ported to the DS afterwards. |
Yeah I meant that to be a different point, lol. I don't think Coded will suffer from content cuts like HD Days.
I don't follow the series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dammit Chaser
They leaked 2.5.
or did they mean to do that...
They leaked 2.5.
or did they mean to do that...
They didn't leak 2.5
They showed what games would be in 2.5 in the credits of 1.5
There are two games. You're forgetting The Mercenaries!
Yeah. Revelations and mercenaries.
oh I see now,
Thanks Taochan
Yeah. Revelations and mercenaries.
oh I see now,
Thanks Taochan
No problem!
[FONT=comic sans ms] Oh man i can't wait while Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD REmix come's out here to America, and since it's going to be on the Playstation 3 it's even going to be more Epic then ever! this is really going to be amazing.
.....thank you god! I know that a million people outside of japan have wanted to play KH2FM+ forever, including me! Finally we'll be able to face all 13 Organization members in one game! I LOVE YOU NOMURA!
THANK THE LORD ALMIGHTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm feeling you brother. I'm feeling you Monkey D Rocky
That doesn't mean they can't make it into a cutscene format like they did with Days.
Also you say that you yourself don't have a 3ds. You then realize how important it is to bring it on the PS3, either a remaster or in a cutscene format.
I know that. I made a thread like 2 weeks ago saying I would like to see DDD cutscenes in the next collection. Right now I'm talking about the game as a whole. And it's not IMPORTANT. Yes, it's important to the story, but if these games were important enough to be on the PS3 they wouldve originally been MADE for the PS3. Besides, DDD doesn't even get important storywise until towards the end. KH3 will obviously re-clarify what happened in that part of the game.
I know that. I made a thread like 2 weeks ago saying I would like to see DDD cutscenes in the next collection. Right now I'm talking about the game as a whole. And it's not IMPORTANT. Yes, it's important to the story, but if these games were important enough to be on the PS3 they wouldve originally been MADE for the PS3. Besides, DDD doesn't even get important storywise until towards the end. KH3 will obviously re-clarify what happened in that part of the game.
That is extremely untrue. Nomura was requested by Nintendo to make a game for the Gameboy Advance, the DS and the 3DS and that's why there are games on those consoles. BBS was also initially supposed to be released on the PS2.
DDD is also just as important as CoM because they're bridge games with a crap load of content. KH3 will be confusing without DDD.
I know that. I made a thread like 2 weeks ago saying I would like to see DDD cutscenes in the next collection. Right now I'm talking about the game as a whole. And it's not IMPORTANT. Yes, it's important to the story, but if these games were important enough to be on the PS3 they wouldve originally been MADE for the PS3. Besides, DDD doesn't even get important storywise until towards the end. KH3 will obviously re-clarify what happened in that part of the game.
anyway it came out a short time ago and Square isn't going to put the cutscenes if it came out last year
That is extremely untrue. Nomura was requested by Nintendo to make a game for the Gameboy Advance, the DS and the 3DS and that's why there are games on those consoles. BBS was also initially supposed to be released on the PS2.
Yes, but like Nomura has said, those games weren't NEEDED to be played to play the main console games.
anyway it came out a short time ago and Square isn't going to put the cutscenes if it came out last year
well it doesnt matter to me anyway. There's youtube lol
(EDIT: Oh shit! Sorry for DP!)
Greatest news ever! xD I can't wait to see what we get out of this. Maybe new additional scenes or have the kh2 final mix scenes translated and voice acted!? I wonder what the box cover will be like? I don't really care about coded but, BBS and KH2 together; is gonna be awesome! This means we can play the final mix version of BBS, right? Fighting off heartless in the relam of darkness as Aqua.
Greatest news ever! xD I can't wait to see what we get out of this. Maybe new additional scenes or have the kh2 final mix scenes translated and voice acted!? I wonder what the box cover will be like? I don't really care about coded but, BBS and KH2 together; is gonna be awesome! This means we can play the final mix version of BBS, right? Fighting off heartless in the relam of darkness as Aqua.
maybe, but we are not 100% sure on the game and no details were announced
This is probably wishful thinking, but I would love to see the capes added on to TAV's armor. Nomura said he couldnt do it on the PSP version because of the framerate issues, but since KH2FM could handle it with the Lingering Will, the PS3 can obviously handle it.
Yes, but like Nomura has said, those games weren't NEEDED to be played to play the main console games.
When did he say that?
Oh, also Coded in the OP
Yes, but like Nomura has said, those games weren't NEEDED to be played to play the main console games.
He has literally never said that; he said they weren't main titles except BBS which we should think of as "KH0".
Now every PSP game I have either has, or will have, a version on the PS3. ;n;
And yay, we will all get to fight the Mysterious Figure again! xD
aww yeahh what a great combination
I'm more excited for 2.5 than I am for 1.5! Can't wait for this to come out!
I'm more excited for 2.5 than I am for 1.5! Can't wait for this to come out!
Same! KH2 and BBS Final Mix content is what I'm really looking forward to.
Here's what happens if DDD isn't included in the next collection.
(Disclaimer: Steve has a PS3 and is new to the Kingdom Hearts series!)
Steve: Well, I've spent hours on 1.5 and 2.5 remixes and covered the plot. Now I'm ready to play Kingdom Hearts 3!
*buys KH3*
Steve: WHY THE HELL CAN'T I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON I BOUGHT BOTH STINKING HD COLLECTIONS!
Seriously though, not having DDD in the collection is totally counter-productive. Like sephiroth0812 said, the collections are about
1. Remedy the issue about the story being spread over so many systems.
2. Bring the fanbase up to speed by using a home console to center the series on.
And by the way, the PSP game MGS Peace Walker was released in a PS3 HD collection just 17 months after it's PSP release. DDD has already been out for 8 months. Therefore it wouldn't be unrealistic to expect KH 2.5 HD Remix, including DDD, to be released outside of Japan in time for Christmas this year!
That's very generous, but my point is you can't use the excuse that DDD hasn't been out long enough.
Therefore it wouldn't be unrealistic to expect KH 2.5 HD Remix, including DDD, to be released outside of Japan in time for Christmas this year!
I think expecting 2.5 at Christmas this year is a little unrealistic.
Here's what happens if DDD isn't included in the next collection.
(Disclaimer: Steve has a PS3 and is new to the Kingdom Hearts series!)
Steve: Well, I've spent hours on 1.5 and 2.5 remixes and covered the plot. Now I'm ready to play Kingdom Hearts 3!
*buys KH3*
Steve: WHY THE HELL CAN'T I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON I BOUGHT BOTH STINKING HD COLLECTIONS!
Seriously though, not having DDD in the collection is totally counter-productive. Like sephiroth0812 said, the collections are about
1. Remedy the issue about the story being spread over so many systems.
2. Bring the fanbase up to speed by using a home console to center the series on.
And by the way, the PSP game MGS Peace Walker was released in a PS3 HD collection just 17 months after it's PSP release. DDD has already been out for 8 months. Therefore it wouldn't be unrealistic to expect KH 2.5 HD Remix, including DDD, to be released outside of Japan in time for Christmas this year!
That's very generous, but my point is you can't use the excuse that DDD hasn't been out long enough.
Well like I said, DDD doesn't even become important storywise until towards the end and they will obviously re-clarify what happened at that point in KH3.
And are you serious? There's NO WAY it will be released outside of Japan by Xmas. I'm sure it wont even be released IN Japan by xmas...
Read my last sentence, people!
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That's very generous, but my point is you can't use the excuse that DDD hasn't been out long enough."
Read my last sentence, people!
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That's very generous, but my point is you can't use the excuse that DDD hasn't been out long enough."
Porting a PSP game to the PS3 and porting a 3DS game that made a lot of use of the 3DS controls to the PS3 is different.
Porting a PSP game to the PS3 and porting a 3DS game that made a lot of use of the 3DS controls to the PS3 is different.
Perhaps, but if it's in the collection, Square Enix will have been working on it for a while. I also don't think the control differences is AS big of an obstacle as people are making out.
Lastly, I'm just trying to be positive :/
Perhaps, but if it's in the collection, Square Enix will have been working on it for a while. I also don't think the control differences is AS big of an obstacle as people are making out.
Lastly, I'm just trying to be positive :/
It's the fact they would have to rework the battle system which would take time.
I don't doubt that DDD will find its way to the PS3 in time, it's just not going to be doing that with 2.5
Porting a PSP game to the PS3 and porting a 3DS game that made a lot of use of the 3DS controls to the PS3 is different.
Correct.
And after skimming through the thread again I can only re-state that I don't think that anyone would want to totally exclude DDD, but several people think that one shouldn't insist so much on that title being included as a playable game.
When it comes to importance of actual playability, need for remastering and scope of importance Birth by Sleep is more important than DDD, also since it has a Final Mix like KH 1 and 2 which also identifies it as a main title.
KH3D Hints 1.5 when released in Japan in March.
1.5 Releases in Japan the following March.
KH1.5 hints 2.5 in March.
Will probably be released the following March in Japan.
At least that's what I think. They probably are gonna announce it at TGS.
I don't mean to be rude, but there's no point in arguing about if DDD should or shouldn't be included in any way, shape, or form in this collection, because it's clearly not happening. So deal with it. We JUST found out that they're releasing KH2, BBS, and coded as a new collection literally a DAY ago and people are already complaining about DDD. Why don't we just discuss the actual topic at hand instead of something non existant?
They should just put up a synopsis of 3D in KH3 to cover any important information. Or they could briefly go over what happens in a similar fashion to KH1 in KH2.
I would probably opt for the latter since most of the important info is at the end.
KH3 will probably be set up in a way so that you can play it without having to beat DDD. Like KH2 with CoM. I'm sure some people played KH2 before CoM, and still got it.
KH3 will probably be set up in a way so that you can play it without having to beat DDD. Like KH2 with CoM. I'm sure some people played KH2 before CoM, and still got it.
KH2 was actually pretty confusing without knowledge of CoM. I spent hours wondering who the hell Roxas, Namine and Axel were as well as wondering where Sora was.
This news isn't exactly that surprising, but why am I still so excited? The things Kingdom Hearts does to me...
KH2 was actually pretty confusing without knowledge of CoM. I spent hours wondering who the hell Roxas, Namine and Axel were as well as wondering where Sora was.
Oh. :( Nevermind. Sorry I brought it up... It's been a long time since I've played KH2.
Don't be sorry! I just unfortunately have experience of being lost in a KH game.
That stinks. I guess I was lucky. I played the games in the order they're rereleasing them. 1, CoM, Days, 2, BBS, R:c. So I've never really been too lost. :(
That stinks. I guess I was lucky. I played the games in the order they're rereleasing them. 1, CoM, Days, 2, BBS, R:c. So I've never really been too lost. :(
I didn't know CoM existed when I bought KH2. But ever since then I've bought every game at release and have kept up with the series!
This is why I'm very sympathetic to how people will be lost without DDD when KH3 comes out.
You should take it easy, Tao-Chan, lol.. Blades here was just trying to help out, right, Blades? :)
I'm extremely looking forward to 2.5 already, lol. I can finally get to see the Chamber of Repose among other things. :D
You should take it easy, Tao-Chan, lol.. Blades here was just trying to help out, right, Blades? :)
I told him not to be sorry!
I told him not to be sorry!
Yes, you did, lol. But that was little mean of you, Tao-chan.. :P
You never played the final mix, correct? I don't either.. but now. Now we will experince the full power of the final mix!! :D
Yes, you did, lol. But that was little mean of you, Tao-chan.. :P
That's not really mean at all xD He was upset that he made a mistake and Taochan told him there's no reason to be. She's kindly easing his worries~
| You never played the final mix, correct? I don't either.. but now. Now we will experince the full power of the final mix!! :D |
Would be interesting to see what trophies they'll come up with for 2.5 then ;D
That's not really mean at all xD He was upset that he made a mistake and Taochan told him there's no reason to be. She's kindly easing his worries~
Would be interesting to see what trophies they'll come up with for 2.5 then ;D
xD sure, Sign.. sure. xP
I can think of a few off the top of my head, but I'll leave those to the pros. ;D
You know, Kingdom Hearts 1.5 is about the introduction to the story and the characters while 2.5 is about learning about the past and how to help revive the people that are in torment. That's how I see it, though.
Would be interesting to see what trophies they'll come up with for 2.5 then ;D
I bet while there will be another bronze one for Sephiroth again, there will also be one or several concerning the Absent Silhouettes in the worlds and for the Data Battles in the Garden of Assemblage, probably silver ones while beating the Lingering Sentiment and the Mushroom XIII earns you a gold one each.
I think, this is great! If so, new and old players could finally get through of that "every game is for a different console" -problem. I still wish though, that they would finish Xehanort saga already :,D
Yes, you did, lol. But that was little mean of you, Tao-chan.. :P You never played the final mix, correct? I don't either.. but now. Now we will experince the full power of the final mix!! :D
I think, this is great! If so, new and old players could finally get through of that "every game is for a different console" -problem.
That's one of the reasons they're making the HD remasters~
| I still wish though, that they would finish Xehanort saga already :,D |
I'm sure they're working very hard on it as we speak!
I bet while there will be another bronze one for Sephiroth again, there will also be one or several concerning the Absent Silhouettes in the worlds and for the Data Battles in the Garden of Assemblage, probably silver ones while beating the Lingering Sentiment and the Mushroom XIII earns you a gold one each.
I'd say something here but I don't want Shamdeo to call me a filthy casual xD (will never complete this game)
Ugh, imagine that KH2FM+ secret ending in glorious HD. I'd cry watching it.
Ugh, imagine that KH2FM+ secret ending in glorious HD. I'd cry watching it.
I bet while there will be another bronze one for Sephiroth again, there will also be one or several concerning the Absent Silhouettes in the worlds and for the Data Battles in the Garden of Assemblage, probably silver ones while beating the Lingering Sentiment and the Mushroom XIII earns you a gold one each.
Well, they made all the secret bosses in 1.5 only bronze trophies, so I actually feel like they may do the same for 2.5. Even if the Lingering Sentiment is very deserving of a gold trophy :P
My babies in HD. I can't handle this
I can't wait for the Trailer. I have high expectations for this collection.
Well, they made all the secret bosses in 1.5 only bronze trophies, so I actually feel like they may do the same for 2.5. Even if the Lingering Sentiment is very deserving of a gold trophy :P
Lingering Sentiment is pretty hard on proud mode and really hard on critical mode but it isn't much of a challenge on beginner mode so people could start on beginner mode and get an easy trophy but I would make it a silver trophy
Anything in particular you guys are looking forward to most from these three titles in HD? :3
OMG, I'm gonna die if this become real!
Anything in particular you guys are looking forward to most from these three titles in HD? :3
Finally being able to play BBS. Actually no. I should say, finally being able to play BBS AND Final Mix.
Oh and the secret bosses. There is something I like about those that make me want to play those game even more.
Anything in particular you guys are looking forward to most from these three titles in HD? :3
No lag in Mirage Arena! And when using command styles, or when using megaflare/attacks like it! AH.
RIGHT ANALOG STICK CAMERA FOR BBS. *crying*
Also getting the chance to do all of the new stuff in KH2FM.
OMG, I'm gonna die if this become real!
It is real lol (now we just have to wait for the announcement)
Greatest news ever! xD I can't wait to see what we get out of this. Maybe new additional scenes or have the kh2 final mix scenes translated and voice acted!? I wonder what the box cover will be like?
I sadly don't think we'll get any added scenes seeing as they didn't add anything new to 1.5HD Remix, which is still fine. I mean, 3 games on PS3, trophy content, FM CONTENT! That's enough for me ^_^ As for the boxart, I have a feeling it will be nearly exactly like the KH1.5HD boxart which I'm okay with for consistency of the collection purposes. I think that we'll probably have SK and DG on the front with TAV in the upper left and Mickey, Data Sora, and Data Riku (maybe Jiminy too) in the top right.
And yay, we will all get to fight the Mysterious Figure again! xD
I think MF was nerfed a bit in BbSFM but he is still VERY difficult, just not as much as in the US BbS. I believe they made him less aggressive and nerfed some of his moves (not sure which ones though).
Here's what happens if DDD isn't included in the next collection.
While I completely agree that not playing or knowing what happened in DDD is really problematic for understanding KH3, I don't think that is what will happen if it isn't in THE NEXT COLLECTION. Why can't SE make DDD into cutscenes or a really long journal entry and put that on the main menu of KH3? Like they did with FFXIII for FFXIII-2, anyone who buys KH3 would be caught up right then and there...problem solved :)
I don't mean to be rude, but there's no point in arguing about if DDD should or shouldn't be included in any way, shape, or form in this collection, because it's clearly not happening. So deal with it. We JUST found out that they're releasing KH2, BBS, and coded as a new collection literally a DAY ago and people are already complaining about DDD.
While I don't believe that DDD will be on this collection, it isn't as black and white as you're making it out to be. Just because they didn't show DDD in the credits doesn't mean there is absolutely 0% chance it will ever be in the collection. Unless you know Nomura and he told you specifically that DDD isn't on it, it is still a possibility until an official announcement comes out.
Would be interesting to see what trophies they'll come up with for 2.5 then ;D
Please NO S+10 ranking on all gummi missions!!!!
Anything in particular you guys are looking forward to most from these three titles in HD? :3
My personal response:
- KH2FM in English
- Secret Episode of BbS in English along with the added bosses
- HD BbS and I can't wait to hear the new music in those games
- ONLINE MIRAGE ARENA!
My hormonal response:
- Aqua's chest
Anything in particular you guys are looking forward to most from these three titles in HD? :3
Just to be able to play these games that's it, and no more excuses for anything not related to a KH3 just sayin.
Anything in particular you guys are looking forward to most from these three titles in HD? :3
- Extra Org. fights
- Limit Form
- Whatever "Cavern of Remembrance" is
- Shortcut menu and/or an option to scroll through Commands with L2/R2 in BBS
- Finally playing with/against other players in Mirage Arena
- FM lingering whatever fights
- Less lag
Heres to hoping that BBS HD has online and capes.
Caped Terra looks to me like a medieval fusion of Batman and a Power Ranger.
Caped Terra looks to me like a medieval fusion of Batman and a Power Ranger.
Capeless Terra looked like a Power Ranger.
Caped Terra looks awesome.
Heres to hoping that BBS HD has online and capes.
I agree about the cape and the online. Having a psp and having wifi to good for it I'm really looking forward to online if they have it. And also, The cape couldn't work on the psp because it's not that powerful but on the ps3, possibly ps4 they are probably going to put the cape on Terra
Capeless Terra looked like a Power Ranger.
Caped Terra looks awesome.
The cape is obvs a Batman trait. He does look awesome, though.
Not having to use ad-hoc party to play Mirage Arena with someone. Never really got it to work with BBS, but once or twice.
Setting things up to even be able to use ad-hoc party was a drag to begin with, but finding people with whom you could actually play with was worse.
If they cape them, can we get the option to turn it off? I'm quite fond of staring at Terra in his armor.
The cape is obvs a Batman trait. He does look awesome, though.
I'm Batman!!!!!!!
I have some small hope that they might include things that were cut from the game, even though it's not going to happen xD
King Laguna, the younger Hollow Bastion Restoration Committee, etc~
My hormonal response:
- Aqua's chest
And her back, don't forget her back.
Finally being able to play BBS. Actually no. I should say, finally being able to play BBS AND Final Mix.
Oh and the secret bosses. There is something I like about those that make me want to play those game even more.
Ha, I'll be playing BBS for the first time, too :). Then again, all the games will be new to me, save for KH2, COM and Days.
Ironically, I originally bought a PSP Go mainly to play BBS -_-
Ha, I'll be playing BBS for the first time, too :). Then again, all the games will be new to me, save for KH2, COM and Days.
Ironically, I originally bought a PSP Go mainly to play BBS -_-
I've only played KH and KH2. So basically everything will be new to me. Problem is that I never expected there to be a collection of sort so I just watched all the games on Youtube. A thing which now I greatly regret.
After playing KH, KH2 was the only spoiler free game I played. I plan to do the same for KH3 or should I say I will try to do the same thing for KH3. It's going to be so hard. The only thing I want to see is the announcement and release dates on this site. I will not even look at the trailer.
Problem is that I never expected there to be a collection of sort so I just watched all the games on Youtube. A thing which now I greatly regret.
I definitely know what you mean, it's hard to resist. I did the same but always refrained from watching BBS.
However, when you look for KH on the internet it can be impossible to avoid spoilers like Vanitas' face :frown:
The only thing I want to see is the announcement and release dates on this site. I will not even look at the trailer.
From previous experience, that's definitely easier said than done :tongue:
I really would like the capes to added just because, but I think it is highly unlikely :( I think they all look like Beetleborgs personally...but that's just me haha xD
I just love that I wrote that editorial that was posted and then this news comes out not long after, possibly confirming my suspicions as to what games were gonna be in 2.5 XD
I'm assuming KH2 and BBS will be the final mixes too because I have wanted to play KH2FM since it came out xD.
I'm assuming KH2 and BBS will be the final mixes too because I have wanted to play KH2FM since it came out xD.
Oh thanks, that takes care of that. xD
coded has some of the best interactions and dialogue in the series. I'm pretty excited to see what they'll do *U*
Unlike Days where most of the scenes were with RAX on that godforsaken tower, coded has to include a larger variety~
Also Data Sora and Riku are precious bbys ;A;
I definitely know what you mean, it's hard to resist. I did the same but always refrained from watching BBS.
However, when you look for KH on the internet it can be impossible to avoid spoilers like Vanitas' face :frown:
Yep, that was annoying. Even here, despite our spoiler ban, we had tons of members who changed their avatar to Vanitas' face Day 1. But then again back then we actually insta-banned people who did that for 3 days...
After playing KH, KH2 was the only spoiler free game I played. I plan to do the same for KH3 or should I say I will try to do the same thing for KH3. It's going to be so hard. The only thing I want to see is the announcement and release dates on this site. I will not even look at the trailer.
Well when the time comes, good luck!
coded has some of the best interactions and dialogue in the series. I'm pretty excited to see what they'll do *U*
Unlike Days where most of the scenes were with RAX on that godforsaken tower, coded has to include a larger variety~
I agree i'm sure they'll do to coded what they did to days which i'm fine with but if they could make it playable that would be cool because I found the gameplay of coded a lot more enjoyable than days. xD
If Tetsuya's smart, he'll use this 2.5 bit to show BBS vol. 2.
I just want to play all the games again. All I can play is Days and Recoded at the moment. :( I haven't played KH1 or 2 in ages. Plus, to finally play FM content and HD, will be awesome. ^^
KH might be re-telling stories of the past while going to the future :)
Anything in particular you guys are looking forward to most from these three titles in HD? :3
BBS:
Terra getting his batman cape back.
Aqua's old backless design <3
Ventus going back to be left handed like in he was originally shown in the kh2fm secret vid.
Destiny island visitable.
Keep the jiggly chests.
KH2fm:
Honestly just having everything in english (text, silent scenes, etc) is all i want so that I dont have to sit with a small not sheet like when i play it on ps2.
THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GOT THISSSSSSSSSSSSS^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sorry to ask but... Why is it that everyone who looks at this picture automatically notes it is from KHIIFM? Is it the color of the Heartless?
Sorry to ask but... Why is it that everyone who looks at this picture automatically notes it is from KHIIFM? Is it the color of the Heartless?
Yup. All heartless were recoloured in the Final Mix editions of Kingdom Hearts, Kingdom Hearts II, and Birth by Sleep.
Does the enemy recoloring include the Nobodies and Unversed?
Does the enemy recoloring include the Nobodies and Unversed?
The Nobodies aren't recolored, but the Unversed are. For example, the Floods are purple...
BBS:
Terra getting his batman cape back.
Aqua's old backless design <3
Ventus going back to be left handed like in he was originally shown in the kh2fm secret vid.
Destiny island visitable.
Keep the jiggly chests.
KH2fm:
Honestly just having everything in english (text, silent scenes, etc) is all i want so that I dont have to sit with a small not sheet like when i play it on ps2.
THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GOT THISSSSSSSSSSSSS^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*pretends to be a skeptic*what proof have you of this?
Does the enemy recoloring include the Nobodies and Unversed?
Wow, they're kinda scarier like that lol. xD
I really love the purple color. It really suits them and it makes them seem more dark themed.
Yup. All heartless were recoloured in the Final Mix editions of Kingdom Hearts, Kingdom Hearts II, and Birth by Sleep.
Oh, so it is the color, indeed. But it surprises me that you guys get it so easily. I mean, it's just the Heartless boss from The Land of Dragons (I like its design, though); I wouldn't see the picture and notice: "Look, the color is different!".
Oh, so it is the color, indeed. But it surprises me that you guys get it so easily. I mean, it's just the Heartless boss from The Land of Dragons (I like its design, though); I wouldn't see the picture and notice: "Look, the color is different!".
Gold instead of light blue, red instead of blue, yellow webbing instead of white... major differences.
Gold instead of light blue, red instead of blue, yellow webbing instead of white... major differences.
True. I just looked at the original colors. So I guess it's either because of my poor memory or because I played it long ago.
Does the enemy recoloring include the Nobodies and Unversed?
Just the heartless and unversed. The nobodies stayed the same.
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BBS:
Terra getting his batman cape back.
Aqua's old backless design <3
Ventus going back to be left handed like in he was originally shown in the kh2fm secret vid.
Destiny island visitable.
Keep the jiggly chests.
KH2fm:
Honestly just having everything in english (text, silent scenes, etc) is all i want so that I dont have to sit with a small not sheet like when i play it on ps2.
THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GOT THISSSSSSSSSSSSS^^^^^^^^^^^^^
assumingnthey didn't delete the capes altogether from their databases. I can't actually see them going quite as far as rebuilding the cape with animations or even doing battle animations for it.
Then again, they practically remade Days. :D
I remember that some textures were improved in KHII Final Mix. Did the first one and BbS Final Mix receive any graphical touch-ups?
YESSS Can't wait... (Which will be how long? I mean geez just look how long we have to wait for 1.5 XD)
Though... I cannot express my complete and utter apathy for Coded in words. Also, I was hoping that DDD would at least be included in much the same way as Days.
I remember that some textures were improved in KHII Final Mix. Did the first one and BbS Final Mix receive any graphical touch-ups?
Nope. KH2FM was the only one to have any graphical changes.
Yup that's right. They updated the textures in certain models throughout the game. e.g. Notably Roxas's striped coat being much clearer.
What's this? What's this?
My God, where the diddly have I been along! I got caught up with Evangelion (the giant robot anime) and the recent film for Rebuild (3.0) that I forgot about my nostalgic preteen obsession, Kingdom Hearts. This is all too overwhelming and unbelievable and I cannot tell you how eager I'm to play Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+, BBS Final Mix, and watch coded! I don't care what anyone says but II deserves some love. Yeah, it's technically inferior to the original game in A LOT of aspects but.....I just can't help it, I have special love for it that the haters/dislikers can suck it! Sora's dense, yes, and lost some IQ points yes, but I love him and the cheese in the game and I am sure Final Mix+ will redeem in it many ways and find way to reach the hearts of its non-fans. I'm so ready for this and we're not anywhere near a NA release date.
What's this? What's this?
My God, where the diddly have I been along! I got caught up with Evangelion (the giant robot anime) and the recent film for Rebuild (3.0) that I forgot about my nostalgic preteen obsession, Kingdom Hearts. This is all too overwhelming and unbelievable and I cannot tell you how eager I'm to play Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+, BBS Final Mix, and watch coded! I don't care what anyone says but II deserves some love. Yeah, it's technically inferior to the original game in A LOT of aspects but.....I just can't help it, I have special love for it that the haters/dislikers can suck it!
While many would say that about II, II Final Mix is generally praised as "the greatest game in the series. I assure you, it's a whole 'nother story with this one!
| Sora's dense, yes, and lost some IQ points yes, but I love him and the cheese in the game and I am sure Final Mix+ will redeem in it many ways and find way to reach the hearts of its non-fans. I'm so ready for this and we're not anywhere near a NA release date. |
rofl cheesy xD
I think once they announced what would actually be in 1.5, many people's attention turned towards the inevitable 2.5 instead, as II and BbS are generally more popular than KH, CoM and Days. I'm honestly pretty biased in that regard as well, haha.
Hmmm...considering that they added new things to 1.5 (in Re:CoM specifically), do you think they might add stuff to 2.5? Maybe like some Pixar summons that never made it into the game?!?!?!? Any thoughts?
If only! That'd be a dream come true.
I'm not really sure what else they could add to KH2FM! Gonna dig through some old interviews to see if there's anything else they cut out.
How about you? Asides from Buzz and Woody, is there anything else you'd like?
How about you? Asides from Buzz and Woody, is there anything else you'd like?
The option to switch between original and Final Mix colours.
It's a bit weird in 1.5. KHFM has the final mix colours, then you go to Castle Oblivion and they're all the original coloured heartless.
The option to switch between original and Final Mix colours.
It's a bit weird in 1.5. KHFM has the final mix colours, then you go to Castle Oblivion and they're all the original coloured heartless.
Haha that's kind of cool thought that you can get to see both colors between the 2 games ^_^ However, I don't think that options is necessary, but I like the idea :)
As for what else I'd like:
-I'd love the journals of the 3 games to be connected so that once you beat them all and you go into the Journal in any one game, you'd have this giant source of info on all the games thus far.
- I want new colored heartless in the Secret Episode for BbSFM
- I want Mirage Arena online
- I want...dare I say it...I WANT THE JUNGLE BOOK WORLD BACK!!!!!!! :(
I would just like restate that, while there is footage of some Kingdom Hearts 2 FM scenes in HD, the ones in the credits aren't.
BBS:
Terra getting his batman cape back.
Aqua's old backless design <3
Ventus going back to be left handed like in he was originally shown in the kh2fm secret vid.
Destiny island visitable.
Keep the jiggly chests.
But seriously, that's gotta be the change I'd most like to see. It would be a bit of a bonus if you could switch between armour and regular clothes with the push of a button too, and that would change the cutscenes just like equipped keyblades. Plus running around with a realistic cape would be beyond sexy.
It would be a bit of a bonus if you could switch between armour and regular clothes with the push of a button too, and that would change the cutscenes just like equipped keyblades.
Yeah, there really was no reason for the armor, apart from flying.
But it was so useless at the end.
I've always had this fantasy of finally getting to see what the lesser nobodies commanded by the CO Team (sans Axel) were. Heck, when Days was in production, I was hoping each member would be able to summon their lesser nobodies. My expectations for that game were way too high.
Yeah, there really was no reason for the armor, apart from flying.
But it was so useless at the end.
haha I always thought the armor was more for Mirage Arena than anything else since it didn't really do much plot-wise <_< For Mirage Arena, it is better to be able to differentiate all the players with different colored armor than by changing the color of Terra's skin...
| While many would say that about II, II Final Mix is generally praised as "the greatest game in the series. I assure you, it's a whole 'nother story with this one! |
Gameplay-wise I actually had a lot of fun with KH2FM, and I didn't much like KH2 to begin with. The Cave of Oblivion, the added boss fights, the Mushrooms, the extra scenes, Limit Form, etc were all really fun additions. If you still like Kingdom Hearts there is no way that you won't enjoy it.
Now that I think about it, full armor would be a good reward for beating the Lingering Sentiment in KHII Final Mix.
Since 358/2 is just clips in 1.5 That's orobably what there gonna do with one of the other 2, and rather have birth by sleep playable
Why wouldn't they have Birth by Sleep Final Mix playable?
There are PSP games that have been available on the PS3 HD, and it is 100% possible for BBS to be exactly like that.
Since 358/2 is just clips in 1.5 That's orobably what there gonna do with one of the other 2, and rather have birth by sleep playable
You're saying 2.5 would be a one game and two movie collection? That doesn't really make much sense. BBS/BBSFM seems like it should have always been played on a home console with the features it had, not to mention its status as "KH0".
You're saying 2.5 would be a one game and two movie collection? That doesn't really make much sense. BBS/BBSFM seems like it should have always been played on a home console with the features it had, not to mention its status as "KH0".
He actually said that either coded or BBS would be just cutscenes, but yeah, probably not BBS.
BBS may have always been intended for the PSP, but at one point it was being developed for the PS2. Seems natural that BBS would be playable in 2.5.
I'm pretty sure BBS is going to be in. It probably wouldn't be very difficult to bring over and fans will be expecting it. I legitimately don't understand why everyone brings up chronology as a relevant reason as to why it wouldn't be in considering how everything that happens in KH2 and coded stems from what happens in BBS.
I'm pretty sure BBS is going to be in. It probably wouldn't be very difficult to bring over and fans will be expecting it. I legitimately don't understand why everyone brings up chronology as a relevant reason as to why it wouldn't be in considering how everything that happens in KH2 and coded stems from what happens in BBS.
BBS is definitely going to be in 2.5
1.5 had a secret ending that showed KH2, BBS and Coded scenes so they're now confirmed titles.
He actually said that either coded or BBS would be just cutscenes, but yeah, probably not BBS.
Oh. I read their sentence all wrong. Sorry, yunami!
Hopefully one of the changes they make for this game is fix Riku's bangs to make him look as sexy as he did in DDD. He looks a lot hotter IMHO. Also for the next trophy list there should be a special bonus scene that in ordered to be unlocked, it's required to complee ALL the journals, side quests, and etc.... in ALL the games, as well as watching coded. This bonus scene would depict a Riku and Sora under a palm tree, sharing a papou fruit with Sora laying on Riku's chest, talking about their destinies will always been intertwined, no matter what, and how they'll be in each others heart......meanwhile, with a Kairi hugging the floors of of the seaside shack somewhere, making the Riku x Sora and Kairi x Floor pairings canon. Think of the sales!!!!1
This bonus scene would depict a Riku and Sora under a palm tree, sharing a papou fruit with Sora laying on Riku's chest, talking about their destinies will always been intertwined, no matter what, and how they'll be in each others heart
Then the new theme by Utada for KH3 will play. You Can (Not) Kingdom Hearts.
| ......meanwhile, with a Kairi hugging the floors of of the seaside shack somewhere, making the Riku x Sora and Kairi x Floor pairings canon. Think of the sales!!!!1 |
Beautiful!
"Everybody finds love........" ^_^
But in all seriousness a change I'm hoping for that will probably never actually get is the actual actors of POTC to actually voice their characters in the game. I want my Depp, Bloom, Knightly and Rush back!
"Everybody finds love........" ^_^
But in all seriousness a change I'm hoping for that will probably never actually get is the actual actors of POTC to actually voice their characters in the game. I want my Depp, Bloom, Knightly and Rush back!
I would also love their actual actors/actresses to portray their roles, such as Bridges, Wilde, and Hedlund, etc. However, I feel like some of them (like Depp) would just be too expensive to bring in for such a small role :(
I'm secretly hoping that the BBS images aren't final just because I'd really like it if they gave TAV their capes back... probably not.
I'm also curious as to what they'll do about BBS's multiplayer. If they'll throw it away altogether or keep it in but obviously able to play with players around the world.
Either way, very excited to be playing these two Final Mixes, KH2 more than anything because that was just so jammed packed with new content.
I'm secretly hoping that the BBS images aren't final just because I'd really like it if they gave TAV their capes back... probably not.
Pretty sure the images were untouched.
I'm also curious as to what they'll do about BBS's multiplayer. If they'll throw it away altogether or keep it in but obviously able to play with players around the world.
I'm also curious because if they just throw away Mirage Arena, then what will happen to all the exclusive commands, Ultima Weapon, Ice Collosus, and all the other exclusive bosses like Monstro, No Heart, and Eraqus' Armor. They can' just throw all those away, that's a majority of the best FM additions imo.
I just hope, and this is unlikely, that if they do keep it online, they at least balance the commands.
Pretty sure the images were untouched.
Yeah, they don't look very updated from the PSP, I'm pretty sure they'll look A LOT better when they are released.
The fact that 2.5 HD Remix will include Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ with BBS Final Mix makes this game already superior to the only recently released 1.5 HD Remix, and it hasn't even been conceptualized yet! LOL! But seriously, it will be nice to defeat Vanitas without worrying about breaking any controls and I can sure spam the hell out of Aqua's cartwheel with ease, that's for sure!
But seriously, it will be nice to defeat Vanitas without worrying about breaking any controls and I can sure spam the hell out of Aqua's cartwheel with ease, that's for sure!
This. I always worried about breaking my analog stick on the PSP because I'd be forever pushing it in a very violent way xD BBS with a PS3 controller will completely eliminate that issue and I won't have to ever cry again.
I think that analog stick is really going to save us all haha xD The amount of button mashing that took place during all the secret bosses pretty much is dangerous O_O
I'm also curious because if they just throw away Mirage Arena, then what will happen to all the exclusive commands, Ultima Weapon, Ice Collosus, and all the other exclusive bosses like Monstro, No Heart, and Eraqus' Armor. They can' just throw all those away, that's a majority of the best FM additions imo.
I just hope, and this is unlikely, that if they do keep it online, they at least balance the commands.
Yeah, they don't look very updated from the PSP, I'm pretty sure they'll look A LOT better when they are released.
Mirage Arena will most definitely be in as it is single player capable. My best bet is that they might be able to convert the multiplayer to PS3 online, but that's assuming there's no complications in getting a dedicated server.
This. I always worried about breaking my analog stick on the PSP because I'd be forever pushing it in a very violent way xD BBS with a PS3 controller will completely eliminate that issue and I won't have to ever cry again.
I ruined my analog stick fighting the damn Unknown because I had to pretty much dodge the entire time with Aqua and Ven and it took me about 40 tries each. Sometimes it moves to the right by itself. It's so annoying!
Yeah, ive broken my analog stick even when not fighting the secret bosses. And I'm not even that hard on it!
I kinda ruined my triangle button, square button, and replaced my analog stick that to Vanitas. Hopefully it won't be the case this time. But this 2.5 speculation gives me chills
Just give me my 0.5 afterwards please. I'll sell my soul and/or body
Am I the only one that plays kingdom hearts by pressing the buttons in rhythm old phantasy star online style.
My analogue stick was ruined temporarily after playing BbS as well. Then I dropped it on the floor and it fixed! XD
Thankfully it was just jammed. My other buttons have loosened though.
Good ol' game consoles responding to violence again xD my poor square though. It feels so awkward now. Hopefully they add new game mechanics to BBS without changing it too much because BBS's gameplay, though simple, was one of my favorites.
On additional note, many of the secret bosses won't be tedious to play on the PS3 as well, especially the ones in the Mirage Arena. No seriously, fighting against the Iron Imprisoner would really get me anxious and nervous to point of sweating a lot on the PSP, there was also a lot of trembling as well. Playing it on the PS3 will be a relief as you won't have to worry about battery drainage, as well as being cool and calm about it, you know, they way you normally WOULD NOT be playing on the PSP.
Wow, hearing all these PSP horror stories makes me nervous about going back to play it BbSFM. I have the game but IDK if I dare even playing it on my PSP lol I mean, I know I'll get it in 2.5 and I don't want to break my PSP since it is the LE KH one from Japan >_< choices choices...
EDIT: Figured it out lol I'll borrow my friend's PSP and play BbSFM on THAT ONE! I never knew how fragile the PSP actually was O_o
I don't think playing it once will be a problem. It can still last, as mine has.
(reads all the comments on busting PSP controllers)
Jeeeeesh, you guys are violent! You don't have to start mashing up your buttons violently when playing video games. I can almost guarantee you it doesn't make the game any easier.
I have a question with the prospect of Birth by sleep final mix with HD remix, do you think they would expand on mirage arena to make it more worldwide social event hub?
I have a question with the prospect of Birth by sleep final mix with HD remix, do you think they would expand on mirage arena to make it more worldwide social event hub?
That would be awesome. Like, really awesome.
I never played BBS with someone. Don't have any KH fans living nearby and didn't tried on Adhoc Party, I'm pretty sure the lag would screw up anyway.
If they manage to make something with Mirage Arena like this and with decent netcode, I'm all for it.
Jeeeeesh, you guys are violent! You don't have to start mashing up your buttons violently when playing video games. I can almost guarantee you it doesn't make the game any easier.
lol I know, but it sure makes me feel like the game gets easier :) Sometimes if I play lightly but die I might be inclined to think I didn't push the button hard enough to illicit a response from the PSP so next I'll press harder. Multiply that mindset times 10 and you got yourself button mashing to the max.
I have a question with the prospect of Birth by sleep final mix with HD remix, do you think they would expand on mirage arena to make it more worldwide social event hub?
In BbS, Mirage Arena was already kind of like a social hub. You could have multiple people in it and on the PS3, voice chat will hopefully be enabled. I doubt we'll get some huge hub where there are 50 or so keyblade wielders walking around, but if they keep Mirage Arena as is, I think it'd be cool to have the 6 that we have in a hub together, kind of like in fighting game lobbies.
lol I know, but it sure makes me feel like the game gets easier :) Sometimes if I play lightly but die I might be inclined to think I didn't push the button hard enough to illicit a response from the PSP so next I'll press harder. Multiply that mindset times 10 and you got yourself button mashing to the max.
Agree, I've never beaten MF and I suspect that's because of the controller. No matter how quickly I tap square and no matter where I pull my stick he always get me eventually
(reads all the comments on busting PSP controllers)
Jeeeeesh, you guys are violent! You don't have to start mashing up your buttons violently when playing video games. I can almost guarantee you it doesn't make the game any easier.
We're not violent! We're just totally in the zoooooooneeeee~
Agree, I've never beaten MF and I suspect that's because of the controller. No matter how quickly I tap square and no matter where I pull my stick he always get me eventually
I doubt it, MF is still really difficult and I don't think how hard you press the button honestly affects the system. I just think, mentally, in my own mind, pressing the button really hard gives me a piece of mind and when I did finally beat him, if I was mashing buttons (which I probably was) that only further reinforced my thought process which told me that mashing buttons = beating MF and getting No Name.
I just sorta gave up on trying to beat the MF, and settled for beating him in 3D. Also, we can only expect TWO of these games to be playable: KHII: Final Mix, and KH Birth By Sleep: Final Mix! coded might as well be just HD Cutscenes, because we can all buy that game in stores for the DS Systems. I'm not all that surprised about what it will contain.
I think it could happen. But here's my perdiction, I think...of course KHII will be playable as will Birth by Sleep and Coded will be only theater. But I always imagined playing Birth By Sleep in the PS3 as it was kick ass in the PSP.
well they're obviously making a "Kingdom Hearts 3" , but it'll definitley be on the PS4. And it wouldn't shock me if PlayStation had them do so to get all of us to purchase a PS4 knowing how long we've been anticipating the game. I mean especially since they're just now making a KH HD ReMIX..like this should've been here by 2009-2011.
We're not violent! We're just totally in the zoooooooneeeee~
Same here lol. My thumbstick kept moving by itself for some reason and I couldn't ever find a way to fix it. BBS on 2.5 would really remedy this with the PS3 controllers.
well they're obviously making a "Kingdom Hearts 3" , but it'll definitley be on the PS4. And it wouldn't shock me if PlayStation had them do so to get all of us to purchase a PS4 knowing how long we've been anticipating the game. I mean especially since they're just now making a KH HD ReMIX..like this should've been here by 2009-2011.
This might be in the wrong topic lol
Regardless if it is or not, I don't think Playstation can MAKE them do anything, SE knows exactly what they're doing and something tells me KH3 will get a simultaneous PS3 and PS4 release. Releasing it on PS4 doesn't force anyone to buy a PS4, it just makes KH3's sales go down because I'm pretty 95% of the KH fanbase doesn't believe in buying a whole system for one game, not to mention Sony always makes their original prices EXTREMELY high before having to be forced to decrease the price after realizing they have no grasp on pricing.
This might be in the wrong topic lol
Regardless if it is or not, I don't think Playstation can MAKE them do anything,
Wasn't CoM, Days, Re:Coded, and DDD made because Nintendo "made" them make the games for their consoles?
| it just makes KH3's sales go down because I'm pretty 95% of the KH fanbase doesn't believe in buying a whole system for one game, |
You underestimate all those who bought PSP's and 3DS'. Thank god they both had a nice collection of games.
This might be in the wrong topic lol
Regardless if it is or not, I don't think Playstation can MAKE them do anything, SE knows exactly what they're doing and something tells me KH3 will get a simultaneous PS3 and PS4 release. Releasing it on PS4 doesn't force anyone to buy a PS4, it just makes KH3's sales go down because I'm pretty 95% of the KH fanbase doesn't believe in buying a whole system for one game, not to mention Sony always makes their original prices EXTREMELY high before having to be forced to decrease the price after realizing they have no grasp on pricing.
I agree, though that will be the first time they've ever released any of the KH games for two consoles. Though it may actually increase sales for the game...
Wasn't CoM, Days, Re:Coded, and DDD made because Nintendo "made" them make the games for their consoles?
I thought SE made those games because Nintendo asked and wanted those games on their consoles, I didn't think SE had no choice in the matter and had to make those games for Nintendo and those systems...I could be wrong...
| You underestimate all those who bought PSP's and 3DS'. Thank god they both had a nice collection of games. |
Yeah, those games already had a ton of support lined up as well. If KH3 comes out soon and the PS4 is still in the early stages and doesn't have a robust lineup of definitively good titles, KH3 won't be able to sell that many consoles (it will definitely sell a few here and there, if anything, most from the KH-community) :)
Wasn't CoM, Days, Re:Coded, and DDD made because Nintendo "made" them make the games for their consoles?
It wasn't forced really. Nor was it limited to one console. They wanted a share. Sony gets a slice either way with kh3.
I just watched the credits on an actual TV, not from a low quality live stream and it actually does look like they've done some HD-ing for BBS already.
I just watched the credits on an actual TV, not from a low quality live stream and it actually does look like they've done some HD-ing for BBS already.
Wouldn't surprise me since BBS would take a bit more to cross over to PS3 than KH2 FM does, it's reasonable to start early with it.
Wouldn't surprise me since BBS would take a bit more to cross over to PS3 than KH2 FM does, it's reasonable to start early with it.
I don't think it'd take longer. The PSP and PS2 have similar architecture, so it should take the same amount of time to upscale. I wouldn't be surprised that they started on BBS first ONLY because the Osaka team is most familiar with it's programming unlike KH2 and coded is going to be cutscenes obviously so they are probably going to work with that stuff later on.
so i have an important question; will ddd fit into 2.5 somewhere? it only hit stores last year, and it doesn't sound like a plausible idea with bbs, coded and 2, but they could add only the scenes (maybe even share the same cinematic with coded), and give the mirage arena freeflow and dream eaters.
so i have an important question; will ddd fit into 2.5 somewhere? it only hit stores last year, and it doesn't sound like a plausible idea with bbs, coded and 2, but they could add only the scenes (maybe even share the same cinematic with coded), and give the mirage arena freeflow and dream eaters.
Not saying the credits are the supreme truth, but I'm sure if they intended to have KH3D in the collection they would have shown it to be as transparent as possible.
Also, Nintendo could have paid Square Enix for exclusivity...We wouldn't know that, obviously, and there have been plenty of 3DS games that have been getting HD ports so there is also that.
My personal opinion is that they wouldn't bundle it, especially considering the game was meant to be played on the 3DS and Nintendo was the one to approach SE to make the game. But think of it this way, that's six games on one system, one on another. That's definitely better than what it started at.
Pardon me for asking this but how do we know for sure that 2.5 will even contain BBS FM and 3 hour movie of Coded? I know the credits show them but I'm just very skeptical. I know these 3 games are next inline story wise. I really hope we do get KH II FM,BBS FM and 3 hour movie of Coded. I never got to play BBS by the way.
Pardon me for asking this but how do we know for sure that 2.5 will even contain BBS FM and 3 hour movie of Coded? I know the credits show them but I'm just very skeptical. I know these 3 games are next inline story wise. I really hope we do get KH II FM,BBS FM and 3 hour movie of Coded. I never got to play BBS by the way.
Nomura said it would be unnatural for there not to be a second collection and the credits for 1.5 showed BBS, KH2 and Coded. Coded is assumed to be made into a "movie" for the same reason Days was made into one, there's just not enough time between these collections and KH3 to warrant a remake (which would be utterly necessary for Coded and Days to have been playable). And it's only natural for BBS and KH2 to be the FM editions, like KH1 is for 1.5.
I really want 2.5 to be true. It probably is and that only leaves us DDD and KH 3. Also I really hope KH 3 is on PS3. It would be stupid to have every game of KH on PS3 but KH 3. I'm not buy a PS4 till its at least $300. I'm fine with with my PS3 for now.
I'm also glad that Yoko mentioned that she will be rearranging the tracks for 2.5 with live instruments as well.
I'm also glad that Yoko mentioned that she will be rearranging the tracks for 2.5 with live instruments as well.
Where did you hear that? I only read bout the Live recordings for 1.5 Collection.
Where did you hear that? I only read bout the Live recordings for 1.5 Collection.
An interview by Yoko Shimomura and the sound team.
KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 ReMIX Sound Team Interview! - News - Kingdom Hearts Insider
| ---If KH -HD 2.5 ReMIX- were to come out, would you re-record the music? Shimomura: KH2 uses the built-in tone generator too. In the KH series, the battle music and field music cross-fade so we had to include the data of both battle and field tracks compressed to what would originally be the memory of one track. I was so glad that we could use live music this time... If KH -HD 2.5 ReMIX- comes out, there's no way I'd just leave the built-in tone generator in as is (laughs). I couldn't betray everyone's expectations like that. There are around 100 tracks, though... ---Sounds like recording would be even more difficult (laughs). Shimomura: In KH2 I used strings purposefully in many tracks, such as wanting the violins to build steadily when the music for the last boss starts, which I think it would be beautiful done with live instruments. |
She refers to it in "ifs" but it is really more like a "when" so...uh...
I'm glad to hear that there's somewhat of a confirmation. I wonder what the estimated release date for this is going to be though. I mean if we're lucky it might be next year even. Kinda like what they're doing this year for HD1.5, but then again I suppose it is a little bit overly optimistic to think they might next year. Who knows...Seriously can't wait for this though. KH2 is still to date not only my favorite KH game, but one of my all time favorite games I've ever played.
I don't think it'd take longer. The PSP and PS2 have similar architecture, so it should take the same amount of time to upscale. I wouldn't be surprised that they started on BBS first ONLY because the Osaka team is most familiar with it's programming unlike KH2 and coded is going to be cutscenes obviously so they are probably going to work with that stuff later on.
It's not so much about porting it as it is upgrading texture files and such though.
I'm glad to hear that there's somewhat of a confirmation. I wonder what the estimated release date for this is going to be though. I mean if we're lucky it might be next year even. Kinda like what they're doing this year for HD1.5, but then again I suppose it is a little bit overly optimistic to think they might next year. Who knows...Seriously can't wait for this though. KH2 is still to date not only my favorite KH game, but one of my all time favorite games I've ever played.
Id say no different than the release dates for 1.5
It's not so much about porting it as it is upgrading texture files and such though.
I never said anything about porting, though. I only said that Osaka is most familiar with the source code of BBS so it won't be hard for them to mess with it unlike KH1 which they had to relearn the coding because they all forgot.
I never said anything about porting, though. I only said that Osaka is most familiar with the source code of BBS so it won't be hard for them to mess with it unlike KH1 which they had to relearn the coding because they all forgot.
My mistake. You mentioned structure and my mind immediately associated it with porting.
When will the game come out?
It isn't even announced yet nor confirmed to be in development.
We will first get KH HD 1.5 this year in September.
When will the game come out?
Although unannounced and all of that other sort of jazz, we can assume Square will stick with their normal plan - a game a year - making the game due for sometime next year. Again, Square like to release games in... well any language aside Japanese in the Spring/Fall area (around August and September).
I think it's safe to assume the second collection will be released in Japan next year.
1.5 was announced in September 2012 and was released about a half a year later. Relatively, it should be a quick order after the announcement, which we can probably expect later this year.
2.5 will probably be the 2014 release. Then I guess either it's KH3 for 2015 or we get yet another spin off game...
2.5 will probably be the 2014 release. Then I guess either it's KH3 for 2015 or we get yet another spin off game...
I think it's safe to assume kh3 will be the next game, well besides Chi and 2.5
2.5 will probably be the 2014 release. Then I guess either it's KH3 for 2015 or we get yet another spin off game...
From a chronologically perspective there shouldn't come any other spin-off...i think that Kingdom Hearts 3 comes right after 2.5 and CHI/X because its time for KH3 and we are all ready for it :). I am already waiting 7 years for this game.
2.5 will probably be the 2014 release. Then I guess either it's KH3 for 2015 or we get yet another spin off game...
I don't think we'll have to worry about anymore "spin offs" since DDD set the stage for kh3.
Since KH 2.5 will be released hopefully in 2014, I wonder if BBS will be playable or another movie like sequence like 358/2 days? o.o
Since KH 2.5 will be released hopefully in 2014, I wonder if BBS will be playable or another movie like sequence like 358/2 days? o.o
BBS will definitely be playable. There is no doubt about that.
BBS will definitely be playable. There is no doubt about that.
I would cry if Birth by Sleep wasn't playable lol. I would love to see Birth by Sleep in HD.
That's gonna be a huge game then , unless they skip alot. Can anybody explain how they are gonna make that version?? is it like you can choose one of the storylines , or is it going to be 3 storylines in one?
That's gonna be a huge game then , unless they skip alot. Can anybody explain how they are gonna make that version?? is it like you can choose one of the storylines , or is it going to be 3 storylines in one?
What do you mean? In BBS? Or the full collection?
The three games will be available to choose from in a top menu. You are free to switch between each one at any time. Whatever game you select will then load into its menu as it normally would if it were the individual game. It's just three games on one disk.
If you mean BBS, uh, like BBS is already...
That's gonna be a huge game then , unless they skip alot. Can anybody explain how they are gonna make that version?? is it like you can choose one of the storylines , or is it going to be 3 storylines in one?
Er, could you rephrase that? Not really sure what you mean...
Okay, thx for the help , but i got another question....Is it gonna be an PS4 exclusive?
Okay, thx for the help , but i got another question....Is it gonna be an PS4 exclusive?
There are no plans for 1.5 or the hinted 2.5 to be released on the PS4. It will probably be part of the PS3 HD Remaster line.
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Sorry for my bad english , I'm from Holland. But what I meant was ; The game probably will be huge because it contains 3 storylines, so i thought that there were gonna be 3 storylines. But in turns out the scenario of the characters will be different.
That's gonna be a huge game then , unless they skip alot. Can anybody explain how they are gonna make that version?? is it like you can choose one of the storylines , or is it going to be 3 storylines in one?
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Sorry for my bad english , I'm from Holland. But what I meant was ; The game probably will be huge because it contains 3 storylines, so i thought that there were gonna be 3 storylines. But in turns out the scenario of the characters will be different.
The three games can be selected individually on the main menu. They're not combined together in any way.
That's what sounds most logic to me too, but I first thought all 3 the storylines were exaxt the same as on the origanel games, and that would have been a huge game, but it turns out the story are different , so I asume the story will be shorter too.
That's what sounds most logic to me too, but I first thought all 3 the storylines were exaxt the same as on the origanel games, and that would have been a huge game, but it turns out the story are different , so I asume the story will be shorter too.
I don't think you get it. The three storylines in BBS are in no way too large. Not only will the game be included in it's entirety in the II.5 HD Remix, but it will also be remastered in HD and will possibly have some new additions or enhancements.
Or maybe I'm not understanding exactly what you mean.
Yeah, you probably do not understand what I mean, my fault btw, my english isn't great. But I mean that if they make al versions HD , it'll be a huge game , including Kingdom Hearts 2, Birth by sleep and re:coded. But someoone told me that the scenario of the characters are different, so I asumed the story would be less long.
The PS3 Discs (blu-ray) also have a huge capacity, more than BBS, KH 2 and Re: Coded ever used on their original media. So even with spiced up graphics and some possible included extras there would be way enough room to fit everything in.
It will be pretty big but not so big that it would have trouble fitting on a Blu-Ray. They wouldn't change the scenario. They're likely just going to give the Coded portion the same treatment they gave to 358/2 Days. Just make a bunch of HD cutscenes of it.
Yeah, I totally forgot that the capacity is much bigger now, but I was told by someone else that they were gonna change some of the scenario. I personally like more cutscenes btw
Unless this person was Tetsuya Nomura, I seriously doubt they know what they're talking about. The game hasn't even been properly announced.
I aint say so , I just said I thought the game was gonna be huge. But 2.5 isn't announced , so we can't really say much so far.
The question would be why they would even change "something of the scenario" as there isn't really a need to.
It will probably work just as with 1.5.
You start up the thing on the console and it gives you a main menu to choose between either BBS, KH 2 FM or Re:Coded (as in cutscenes, most likely). If you choose BBS, you play it just like you played it on the PSP, only with revamped visuals and probably some tweaked controls. Same goes for KH 2 FM.
I never said they would change something in the scenario, someone else told me so. But I k'now now what I wanted to k'now ......
For example, I don't think Kingdom Hearts would ever take up as much space as a game like Skyrim. Throw all of the games together, extras and all, and you would have a fraction of the amount of stuff that goes into the huge-scale things like that.
Yes , but I haden't thought about that you can now put way more on a PS3 then on a PS2 disc, so that's the reason I thought it would be a huge game.
I finally won't have to rely on console-modding and patches to play khII final mix! kingdom hearts II is my favorite game of all time and it'll be great to play it in hd and as fm. And i'm looking forward to bbs in this for the same reasons, and i lost my copy of bbs a while ago before i could unlock the secret ending:(
The Metal Gear solid legacy collection on the ps3 has a ps1 game, two ps2 games, a psp game, and a ps3 game. 1.5 remix only has two ps2 games and some cutscenes, is this because they wanted us to buy a 2.5 remix?
I finally won't have to rely on console-modding and patches to play khII final mix! kingdom hearts II is my favorite game of all time and it'll be great to play it in hd and as fm. And i'm looking forward to bbs in this for the same reasons, and i lost my copy of bbs a while ago before i could unlock the secret ending:(
The Metal Gear solid legacy collection on the ps3 has a ps1 game, two ps2 games, a psp game, and a ps3 game. 1.5 remix only has two ps2 games and some cutscenes, is this because they wanted us to buy a 2.5 remix?
KH2 Final Mix is easily emulated on PC and it runs perfectly. I play it all the time. Heck there is even a full English patch.
Oh and the split between 1.5 and 2.5 could be debatable. You could say, "THEY DIDN'T PUT ALL THE KH GAMES ON ONE DISC BECAUSE THEY WANT MONEY". But that isn't really a bad thing tbh. It's reasonably priced and I don't think much of anyone on this forum would think twice about buying any new KH game, especially a number one. Sort of (remakes count i guess)
Support the official release over emulation, guys~
Support the official release over emulation, guys~
If square wanted that they should have released the games years ago.
If square wanted that they should have released the games years ago.
How and with what team? Their Osaka team didn't really get free until last year, and up until 2012 they had been developing KH games.
Support the official release over emulation, guys~
I will, as I said in a previous thread. Playing an emulation for me is like playing a fake. I don't like pirating video games for some reason.
How and with what team? Their Osaka team didn't really get free until last year, and up until 2012 they had been developing KH games.
I am talking about the original Final Mix releases of the games. Square treated western fans like dirt (especially EU fans with no release of re:CoM and crap versions of the games) while many, many publishers released the directors cut versions in every territory with lesser franchises. Of course people will emulate the games when fans do all the work for them. If it means lesser sales for SE since for example KH2FM translation is still quite recent then they only have themselves to blame.
Also emulation has nothing to do with piracy. The thing is that even those who make the legal purchases of FM games before ripping/patching them are giving money to the japanese release of the game, not the western release. Tho I have no doubt that the most hardcore fans will get everything anyway.
What matters more is that Square Enix is trying to release the Final Mix content overseas with the HD ReMIXs. (and that Europe is finally being able to play Re:Chain of Memories) While I do have my complaints for being left out of extra content, I'm glad they're finally trying to do something about it now.
The original Japanese version of the games didn't had the same amount of content as the overseas versions so they tried to make it up by making a Final Mix version for Japan. They're building the games under a scheduled time frame and they usually have left over data such as Jungle Book, Toy Story, Pinocchio's World, etc.
What matters more is that Square Enix is trying to release the Final Mix content overseas with the HD ReMIXs. (and that Europe is finally being able to play Re:Chain of Memories) While I do have my complaints for being left out of extra content, I'm glad they're finally trying to do something about it now.
The original Japanese version of the games didn't had the same amount of content as the overseas versions so they tried to make it up by making a Final Mix version for Japan. They're building the games under a scheduled time frame and they usually have left over data such as Jungle Book, Toy Story, Pinocchio's World, etc.
Kingdom Hearts 2 had exactly the same content... with the exeption that they censored the western release. There is no excuse for them to not release Final Mixes in the west anyway. The only way I could accept it is if they released one and it did terribly in the sales.
If small fries like Atlus can do 2 releases of Persona 3, a game with muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch lesser sales than Kingdom Hearts then I think anyone will have hard time convincing me that a giant like SE couldn't do a localization of a finished game where most of the localization was done anyway.
Also Square should not be commended for releasing the Final Mixes in HD collections because it would be more work for them to change them to original western versions. It is to be expected.
If small fries like Atlus can do 2 releases of Persona 3, a game with muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch lesser sales than Kingdom Hearts then I think anyone will have hard time convincing me that a giant like SE couldn't do a localization of a finished game where most of the localization was done anyway.
It is because Atlus is a small company that they can re-release their games and still get their ideal sales numbers. Square Enix, because they are considered an AAA developer, aim for huge sales numbers and they aren't really the smartest company when it comes to localizations and releases.
It is because Atlus is a small company that they can re-release their games and still get their ideal sales numbers. Square Enix, because they are considered an AAA developer, aim for huge sales numbers and they aren't really the smartest company when it comes to localizations and releases.
Ok fair enough. I still bought Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 special editions (Konami did it with a smaller franchise too: Silent Hill 2 director's cut) , why didn't I get to do the same with KH? I know SE is after bigger fish but I will call them out when they are doing a bad job especially compared to other publishers. There are many publishers that do cool things for the fans even if it doesn't make them huge piles of money. And Square certainly doesn't go the extra mile so shame on them.
Man now I am reminded how awesome Konami used to be. They have fallen so low nowdays :(.
Also I bet you that every single final mix release would have outsold stuff like Final Fantasy Theathrythm in the west.
Hey, at least we're getting it now instead of never ever.
Also I bet you that every single final mix release would have outsold stuff like Final Fantasy Theathrythm in the west.
I thought you liked FFT, you know, considering;
Hey, at least we're getting it now instead of never ever.
I thought you liked FFT, you know, considering;
Oh I do, doesn't mean it did sell much of anything.
Well, the serie's producer Shinji Hashimoto said in an interview that :"If everyone plays 1.5 HD ReMix, if everyone likes it and everyone supports us, then 2.5 HD ReMix could happen".
So i am guessing theres a big possibility they will do it, if everything goes fine with KH 1.5 ReMix.
Now the thing that buzzes me is that, Nomura is already working on two big projects (KH3, FF15), and that will be very dificult for him to work on a third one. That reduces the posibility of them, releasing it before KH3.
But If they end up doing it, that would be great! I would like to replay the KH series in HD before playing KH3. Moreover, all that wait won't be that heavy.
Well, the serie's producer Shinji Hashimoto said in an interview that :"If everyone plays 1.5 HD ReMix, if everyone likes it and everyone supports us, then 2.5 HD ReMix could happen".
So i am guessing theres a big possibility they will do it, if everything goes fine with KH 1.5 ReMix.
Now the thing that buzzes me is that, Nomura is already working on two big projects (KH3, FF15), and that will be very dificult for him to work on a third one. That reduces the posibility of them, releasing it before KH3.
But If they end up doing it, that would be great! I would like to replay the KH series in HD before playing KH3. Moreover, all that wait won't be that heavy.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, FF15 should be fairly far along at this point and the team working on FF15 is different from the one working on KH3 and 2.5 anyway. Before this Nomura was asked in an interview is 2.5 would happen and he said he thought it would be strange (paraphrasing) if it didn't. Hashimoto is just putting his business skills to work, trying to coax people into buying 1.5.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, FF15 should be fairly far along at this point and the team working on FF15 is different from the one working on KH3 and 2.5 anyway. Before this Nomura was asked in an interview is 2.5 would happen and he said he thought it would be strange (paraphrasing) if it didn't. Hashimoto is just putting his business skills to work, trying to coax people into buying 1.5.
Yeah, that makes sense. And i believe they should announce KH 2.5 in 2014, because KH3 is going to take a while (2015 - 2016, the least). So they can give time for people to buy it and play it. Furthermore, the next Gen. consoles are coming up and mostly everyone will start focusing on them.
So they have to get themselves worked up, and deliver KH 2.5 before ''time runs -out'' for PS3(Sounds a bit to much but...), and PS4 hit the stores for good. Because not so many people will go back and spend more money on a PS3 game, rather than a Next Gen. one.
Well, the serie's producer Shinji Hashimoto said in an interview that :"If everyone plays 1.5 HD ReMix, if everyone likes it and everyone supports us, then 2.5 HD ReMix could happen".
So i am guessing theres a big possibility they will do it, if everything goes fine with KH 1.5 ReMix.
Oh we're definitely getting 2.5 If they actually were unsure about making a second remaster, Hashimoto would have referred to it as just that, rather than the specific name. He really only made that comment to promote 1.5.
| Now the thing that buzzes me is that, Nomura is already working on two big projects (KH3, FF15), and that will be very dificult for him to work on a third one. That reduces the posibility of them, releasing it before KH3. |
If Nomura became too busy with one project or the other, or even something else completely unrelated, Tabata and Yasue would be more than capable to take charge.
Yeah, Hashimoto is just making sure 1.5 sells good. I'm fairly certain we'll see 2.5 before years end, Otherwise, I'd expect 2.5 in 2015 and KH3 2016-2017 or so. Even if Nomura is completely occupied with both FFXV and KH3, there are others who could take charge of 2.5.
If Nomura became too busy with one project or the other, or even something else completely unrelated, Tabata and Yasue would be more than capable to take charge.
Well, i am not sure how they are going to pull this off. I just don't want them to rush it all up now that they finally took the decision to start developing KH3.
Well, i am not sure how they are going to pull this off. I just don't want them to rush it all up now that they finally took the decision to start developing KH3.
The decision to start working on KH3 probably was made a long time ago. They've been going a bunch of pre-development skeletal work for awhile now...As it stands, Yasue is probably spending more time on KH3 than Nomura is.
1.5 had only been worked on by a VERY VERY small group of people, mainly a bunch of planners and a few programmers. A remaster is a project that doesn't require a director to stand over it every second, and it was Yasue that probably spent most of his time overseeing it than Nomura since he has definitely been spending his time in Tokyo working on FFXV and traveling to do interviews and whatnot.
2.5 probably has the same small team from 1.5 working on it, maybe more or less depending on what they need to get done, so this isn't a huge undertaking for them. This would also be overseen by Yasue in Osaka, with Nomura in Tokyo mainly approving/disapproving things over video chat and emails and telling them what they need to get done and what is expected of them.
And if Nomura has to leave to do something in Osaka, Tabata is there to keep an eye on FFXV since he's director as well.
2.5 will come before KH3. There are over 300 people working on KH3, and maybe a max of 15 at any given time working on 2.5. 1.5 was made in two years with that small team mainly because they had to rebuild KH1FM. The data for the games in 2.5 shouldn't be lost or corrupted like KH1FM was. They probably started working on 2.5 before 1.5 was even released. We'll probably hear about it before the year ends and see it sometimes in the next.
Unless they are upgrading a lot of the models and stuff in Birth by Sleep (please do this), then it shouldn't be as hard a task as 1.5 was when they didn't have the data from KH1.
They really should upgrade some of the characters. Or at least Aqua's hair texture.
They really should upgrade some of the characters. Or at least Aqua's hair texture.
I'd rather they upgrade her shoulders.
I'd rather they upgrade her shoulders.
Lolaltering the design? Haven't paid too much attention there. I'm more for her back overall. XD
Lolaltering the design? Haven't paid too much attention there. I'm more for her back overall. XD
I don't think he's referring to the design, but adding more polys to the model.
I don't think he's referring to the design, but adding more polys to the model.
Ah, I see. Disregard that then. :redface:
Now that I come to think of it, not the first time i heard of the shoulder issue
Surprisingly the BBS models for the main characters look very low poly indeed. Even though the hidden DDD models are on par with their 1.5 model counterparts ( Well they are the 1.5 models, but I digress)
Lolaltering the design? Haven't paid too much attention there. I'm more for her back overall. XD
;A; *looks at original backless aqua design* If only....
Yeah, I'm well aware of that. :P Still...
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