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We all know what the Crown is. You know, the crown that Sora wears on the cover of KH1.5? The Crown has made numerous appearances in the KH series. It is the main symbol of Hollow Bastion in KH2, Sora can wear it in KH2FM+, it's on Sora's necklace, etc. So my question is....what's the point? Does the Crown have any significance? I mean the Key symbol represents the Keyblade, the Micky symbol represents the Disney aspect in the series, and the Heart symbol represents Kingdom Hearts. So what about the Crown symbol??? Sorry haha, this has been on my mind for awhile.
 

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Aside from crowns/royalty being one of Nomura's minor fetishes, I think it's supposed to represent Kingdom Hearts (the world/entity/whatever you want to call it) it self. If Kingdom Hearts is a "kingdom" then Sora's the metaphoric "king" that protects it, the princesses, and all the innocent hearts born from it that are effectively also a part of it.

Or Nomura just thinks crowns are cool.
 

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I thought it was just bling
that somehow became sora's emblem in everything he does
 

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Does it matter? It is not much different from asking why Sora's shoes are so big.

Not exactly. The shoes were made huge because Sora's outfit resembles Mickey's iconic outfit. Thus the shoes are like Mickey's shoes. Also the crown imagery definitely has some importance. Maybe not anything that would effect the overall story of the series but it's interesting stuff to think about.

I think Ruran probably explained it the best way, if Nomura did it for a metaphorical reason. Or, like Ruran noted, it's done because Nomura thinks crowns are cool. He did say when he was making the series he wanted to put in imagery that would make you think of a "kingdom" and also would pay homage to Disney.
 

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I always just figured it was basically a symbol to represent Sora. Though after seeing Ruran's post I can see it meaning more than that as well.
 

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Hmmm... I can agree with Ruran's post. Also, because Sora has connected to so many hearts through friendship, he's become a sort of human Kingdom Hearts. He is the King of said Kingdom in a way.
 

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I kind of feel like the Crown will get the same treatment as the Recusant's Sigil.

It's been around and we've noticed it. It doesn't seem too important, and then it's suddenly a thing with a real reason for being.

Barring that, I think Ruran's got this thread covered.
 

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I kind of feel like the Crown will get the same treatment as the Recusant's Sigil.

It's been around and we've noticed it. It doesn't seem too important, and then it's suddenly a thing with a real reason for being.

Barring that, I think Ruran's got this thread covered.

I wouldn't be surprised if it gets used somehow as a parallel to Xehanort. They did do something similar with Kairi's necklace when they gave it significance out of nowhere in BbS. It's not quite as relevant to the overall story as the Recusant Sigil but just enough that it was a plot point.

I apparently owned this thread, lol XD
 

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I really have no answers for this thread. However, I think that it is also worth noting that that the keychain on the Oblivion Keyblade (the one associated with both Riku and/or Darkness), is also the same crown shape.
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Maybe the necklace was given to Sora by Riku as a form of brotherly love or something? Idk, it is a bit fanfic for my taste, but it's still not too hard to imagine either.
 

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Or Nomura just thinks crowns are cool.

I hope this isn't the reason because then that means Nomura's next big character might have zippers and straps as their symbol considering we know how much Nomura loves those xD

I really have no answers for this thread. However, I think that it is also worth noting that that the keychain on the Oblivion Keyblade (the one associated with both Riku and/or Darkness), is also the same crown shape.

It is the keychain for Oblivion, but I think in the end it is just Sora's thang (yes...his thAng). I mean, the Oblivion itself sort of symbolizes Sora and Riku's connection (while Oathkeeper him and Kairi) so it is plausbile that it the crown could be a symbol of their friendship but I don't think it's necessary to know that if it is true.
 

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The motive of a crown can be shown in many different ways, but one has to notice that this particular one comes with exactly three spikes.
The number three is after seven and thirteen the most used number in the series aka the main characters being organized in trios, there are three main trios in the series etc.

The crown is also used often for in-game items like Puzzle pieces (in KH 2 FM), stickers (in BBS), the top of the cards in Castle Oblivion (CoM) or some accessoires as well.M

More hints at the crown having something to do with KH itself and Sora (at least thematically) can be taken from that when Sora opens a Gate to the Lanes Between in KH 2, a large glowing crown appears beneath him while the outer Symbols of his own Heart Station in the awakening are all crowns.

Another particular interesting issue is this symbol:
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It is found in the Old mansion in Twilight Town and displays the crown at the bottom going into a heart (in the middle spike) which is then crowned with a fleur-de-lys.
The crown is displayed on the outer circles of Sora's awakening station, which is as we know a representation of the heart.
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Well, the fleur-de-lys appears also often and in more various forms during the entire series, but there's one interesting occurrence to take note of in connection with this symbol.
In one of Ventus' awakening stations (the first one after Sora helps him) the outer symbols are filled with...yeah, a fleur-de-lys:
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More fleur-de-lys symbolism with Ven exists, i.e. when examining his Lost Memory-keyblade, as well.
A crown and a fleur-de-lys connected through a heart...I won't actually place judgement if it was done intentional or not, but that symbol clearly can be interpreted as showing the connection between Sora's and Ventus' hearts.
 

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I hope this isn't the reason because then that means Nomura's next big character might have zippers and straps as their symbol considering we know how much Nomura loves those xD

Well, actually, Nomura hasn't really been using zippers and straps much lately. He's having a cape/side skirt thing right now. And more organic motifs. Generally Nomura just goes with the feel of the game he's drawing concept art for.

It is the keychain for Oblivion, but I think in the end it is just Sora's thang (yes...his thAng). I mean, the Oblivion itself sort of symbolizes Sora and Riku's connection (while Oathkeeper him and Kairi) so it is plausbile that it the crown could be a symbol of their friendship but I don't think it's necessary to know that if it is true.

This is something I hope Nomura will talk about post saga when interviewers ask him every question under the sun in the KH3 Ultimania.
 

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Well, actually, Nomura hasn't really been using zippers and straps much lately. He's having a cape/side skirt thing right now. And more organic motifs. Generally Nomura just goes with the feel of the game he's drawing concept art for.

lol now I want to ask him why he felt KH2 could use all the zippers and straps xD

This is something I hope Nomura will talk about post saga when interviewers ask him every question under the sun in the KH3 Ultimania.

I'm sure he could touch upon it, but it is one of those minor things that I don't think has to be addressed and I doubt anyone really looks that deeply into the crown symbol since most would just take it at face value of it being Sora's symbol. Like Mario's iconic M and Yoshi's Egg representing Yoshi, Sora's just got a crown.
 

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Speaking of which, why did Riku used to wear pants over his pants? They looked like overalls... Except the straps did not reach his shoulders.

They are a kind of fisherman/boating pants that are kind of like cowboy chaps xD Sora's KH2 pants are the same (not as noticeable but they definitely are the same), and Wakka from FFX has a pair too.
 

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I think it's supposed to represent Kingdom Hearts (the world/entity/whatever you want to call it) it self. If Kingdom Hearts is a "kingdom" then Sora's the metaphoric "king" that protects it, the princesses, and all the innocent hearts born from it that are effectively also a part of it.

This.

While I've been doing research for my KH/Monomyth essay, I noticed that this really seems to be the underlying theme for Sora. After revisiting Dream Drop Distance and observing Sora's Story, I've realized that Sora's probably never going to be a true Keyblade Master. He might get the ranking, but it won't be like Luke Skywalker's journey to becoming a Jedi Master. I don't see him dedicating himself to that cause alone and leading the process of rebuilding the number of Keyblade Wielders/Masters.

Nomura has mentioned the following detail multiple times in the past, and it's brought up again towards the finale of Sora's Story in DDD: Sora is just a regular boy. He isn't a true Keyblade Wielder; his strength comes from his Heart and its connection to all of his friends. I'm guessing this will reach a climax of some sort in KH3.

While he isn't royalty, Sora is quite possibly the "king" of Kingdom Hearts. His bonds with all of his friends and acquaintances through out all of the different worlds he goes to are his strength. A king can't really be a king if he has no kingdom, both physically and emotionally. Sora is a normal boy that is capable of incredible feats, because at the end of the day, he is one of the best friends a person could ever ask for. Without realizing it, he's established a metaphorical kingdom of his own through out the series, and since he draws his power from his many friends, he's rising to become a mighty king.

That would be my guess as to why Sora is so heavily associated with the crown symbol in the series. :)
 

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That's a very interesting point you make. It also ties into the ost/1.5 depiction of Sora sitting on a throne with a crown, and by extension the little crowns in kh2 final mix.
 

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It could just represent the fact that Sora is the "chosen one" or w/e. I think it's just symbolic.

This is true which I find funny because technically Sora isn't the chosen one haha but was just a normal boy that was thrust with the power of the keyblade after the true chosen one chose darkness :)
 
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