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The second episode of our collaborative series with GameTrailers.com, called Kingdom Hearts Mysteries, is now live.
For those unfamiliar, we first announced our collaboration back in December, where we'll be working on a number of episodes that will shed light on the deeper mysteries and plot twists of the series in order to help keep everyone on track for the upcoming release of Kingdom Hearts 3.
This time we're focusing on the connection Sora shares with others, as it's quite a big topic in itself. How are characters such as Ventus, Roxas and Xion connected to the series protagonist and how will he be the key towards saving them, among others, in Kingdom Hearts 3? Be sure to tell us how you liked the episode in the comments below!
If you missed our last episode, which covered the concept of time travel in the series, you can watch it here.
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An interesting and very informative take on some of the characters and their connections to Sora. None of this was really new to me but it is interesting to look back and reflect on the series or just put in under the microscope ya know? I quite like these videos and anticipate the next one will be just as good. Great work to everyone involved and thanks for making these.
February 28, 2015 @ 03:05 pmOffline
I love this Mysteries series beautiful to watch, beautiful to listen to! A great job!!
The info is sorted out in such a clear and easy-to-understand way! KH is so complicated that I can't even start explaining it to my friends, this Mysteries series narrates everything perfectly
February 28, 2015 @ 04:38 pmOffline
These are pretty well put together and very informative, it's really nice to have something to look at that considers all the games in one place rather than piecing together things on your own. I love that line Xigbar gives Sora, "I see you still have that angry look down", but I never realized he was talking about Ven. I always just thought about Roxas.
February 28, 2015 @ 05:28 pmOffline
I had originally thought Xion was created based from Roxas, but I suppose Sora's encounter with Xemnas in KH1 makes sense since Roxas wouldn't really have any data to give.
February 28, 2015 @ 05:40 pmOffline
Nice. Looking forward to the next one.
February 28, 2015 @ 06:05 pmOffline
Another excellent video.
25 characters.
February 28, 2015 @ 07:50 pmOffline
Thank you all so much for your kind words, everyone!
We still have approximately three episodes left, and although most has been planned out ahead, we could always use some suggestions and even criticism. So don't be shy to let us know if there's anything you'd want for the next episodes :)
February 28, 2015 @ 08:53 pmOffline
Great job, all! I had a question about something...
I'm not sure if you have a finite number of episodes you'll be doing for this series, but I'm curious if (and if not, here's maybe an idea worth thinking about) you'll be doing an episode about the "production reasons" as to why certain things in the series happened, in contrast to the "story reasons". Examples such as, a lot of the key pieces of dialogue happening in KH2 because of the writer having to find places to fit all of those random English quotes from the "Deep Dive" trailer, the existence of 358/2 Days' story mainly from the overwhelming popularity of Organization 13 and having to find a place to fit a story for them within the overall arc, or the designs of Ventus and Vanitas being sparked from Roxas' popularity, as well as the idea of giving Sora's voice actor a "villainous" role that would make sense within context.
Although there's definitely thought put into the real in-universe story logic as to why all of those things happened, it's clearly obvious (and stated in several interviews by Nomura and his staff) that a lot of decisions were made for reasons -outside- of the story. It MIGHT be a topic worth doing an episode about, unless it's a little bit too far out of the realm of what you guys are going for. Either way, great job and can't wait to see the next one!
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March 1, 2015 @ 02:30 amOffline
"-But because characters in the series don't stay dead for long.." I laughed XD
I enjoyed this video as well! Probably more than the last since I've always been intrigued with the connections of Sora's heart with others. I sorta frowned when I got to the part where it was said that Sora isn't as 'special' as the rest of the characters in the game (he's just supposed to be a normal boy), but I like the reason why he IS so special. Because of his strong heart and willingness to help others. I forgot that he wasn't even supposed to have a keyblade in the first place. He even knows this, but still keeps fighting because that's just how he is. I really love his character.
Good job with the video you guys!
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I think a good idea can be an episode based on details that it's been revealed in interviews but not in games. I think that's the biggest barrier from people really getting the game.
If not an episode dedicated to it, sprinkling it in more because the more information the better. Cool video though.
March 1, 2015 @ 09:14 amOffline
I liked the video, but I don't think I liked it as much as the Timeline and first episode. I may be wrong, but I thought a lot of what it said was speculation never confirmed in or outside of the games. One example being the explanation for why Ven's body didn't disappear after his heart left. To my understanding, there was no reason for his body to disappear in the first place, considering he neither died nor had his heart stolen. It was a simple separation. I don't think Nomura ever addressed this subject, so of course this is just my thoughts behind that, so I could be wrong. However, I feel as though the conclusion I drew has just as much basis as what was said in the video. I really don't think there's a clear answer at this point, and that didn't sit well with me in a video that's purpose is to give facts.
...And at the expense of sounding like a BIGGER nit-picky, know-it-all jerk: I think there was an error in the video. The part about Vanitas in DDD... Nomura addressed that in an interview (DDD's Ultimania "Scenario Mysteries"):
— Why did Xehanort and co. word things as if to try and wake Ventus who is inside Sora?
Nomura: They did so in order to tempt Sora’s heart and have it fall to the darkness. In the story it also talks about how abandoning the self leads to losing the heart. When you see Vanitas (the dark half of Ventus who appeared in KHBBS) overlay Young Xehanort for a moment, that represents Ventus’ heart reacting inside Sora.
...Which... completely contradicts what the video said, to my understanding. D: And that's the only time I'm aware of it being addressed, outside of the cutscene itself.
I'm sorry if I'm coming off nit-picky, or if I'm misunderstanding. I could be wrong, because these could've been confirmed already. But if there's an answer, it's not in the interviews on this site, which is why I'm unfamiliar with them. I just had to ask all this because, if I'm correct, I really don't want these videos to mislead people into believing things that could end up contradicted later in the series.
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March 1, 2015 @ 08:21 pmOffline
A really well done episode indeed. Well done, again!
There was only one thing I would have altered a little bit. The bit were you talk about how Xemnas sampled Sora`s memories in KH1FM, I would have putted the scene itself in there. It drives the point even further home, when you see Xemnas pass trough Sora, and most of the pieces of dialogue we see, is related to Kairi. Bu this is only a small detail.
March 2, 2015 @ 02:02 amOffline
A fantastic video! I really appreciate these videos making sense of the series. I never thought about how Sora and Xehanort are contrasted by one wishing to shelter hearts and one wanting to force his heart upon others. Quite a powerful metaphor, and one I regret dismissing when I played DDD (with the reveal of the thirteen vessels) for being a random plot addition.
I'm surprised when the similar gestures between Ven and Sora were pointed out, the video didn't go into the "hands folded behind head" pose. It may have been cut for time, but considering that five-year-old Sora first did the pose after he accepted Ven's soul (or heart?) at the end of BBS, it seemed significant as well. But it's been quite a while since I played it. :)
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March 2, 2015 @ 06:31 pmOffline
Thanks for the critique, everyone! Gonna reply to a few of them but please let us know if there's any other issues you have so we can further improve for the rest of the videos!
March 2, 2015 @ 09:54 pmOffline
That was a great episode! I loved the music they chose for the parts, too, especially during Sora's explanatory part with 'L oscurita dell ignot. That was awesome!
The episide did help me out with understanding a few things, and mentioned a couple I'd never even heard about... Like how Sora became a walking heart after Kairi transformed his Heartless form, and Xemnas taking samples of Sora's memories in KH fm before the special battle, which the organization later uses to create the replica of his memories, Xion. So that was quite interesting for me.
Sora is my most favorite character out there, so yeah, this episode was the best, in my opinion. At least, so far...
The next one about Xehanort I think will be sad to watch, after we have just recently lost both of his unique voice providers. But be sure I will watch it.
Looking forward to seeing more as these videos continue. Nicely done, all in all.
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March 3, 2015 @ 03:52 amOffline
I just want to say that nitpicking on the phrase "walking heart" is pretty silly. Regardless of if you like how that was worded, that is what Sora was after Kairi gave him form again. The videos have to be accessible to everyone and that is quite literally the simplest and easiest way to describe Sora's physical form after Kairi's intervention, lol. It's not like Kairi got his body back from Roxas.
A lot of the other feedback is helpful though!
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March 3, 2015 @ 05:33 pmOffline
I got to say that was a great video! Okay where to start..
I don't know if I didn't realize it or just missed it, but I always thought that Ventus only joined Sora's heart at the end of BBS. I never realized that Ventus connected with Sora earlier and that's why he got out of his coma. That's also makes sense why Vanitas looks like Sora instead of the other way around. Look forward to hopefully having Vanitas in KH3!
(By the way, have you guys considered the mystery of why Vanitas and Ventus both have keyblades if they're using the same heart?)
Also good explanation of why Roxas looks like Ven but doesn't have memories of either him or Sora. Never thought about Xemnas collecting Sora's memories for making Xion. I always thought he was just testing Sora's strength. Same with Roxas wielding two keyblades. I thought the ability was always there, but needed intense power or strong emotion to use it. Which I guess it was in a way since it was Roxas' intense will to remember Xion that awakened Ven's heart. Does that also mean since Ven's heart was awakened that Roxas could see his memories then? Then again maybe not since Sora didn't.
Good video and I look forward to the next one. On the "walking heart" issue, I refuse to use that term. It's too worn out. I prefer pseudo heartless myself.
March 3, 2015 @ 05:52 pmOffline
Does that also mean since Ven's heart was awakened that Roxas could see his memories then? |
I prefer pseudo heartless myself. |
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I'm not too knowledgeable about the lore of KH so these videos are an entertaining way of learning new things and refresh memories.
I do believe speculation should be completely excluded or atleast acknowledged as speculation, whether it's the case or not with this particular video. Something I currently cannot tell. Just to put it out there.
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March 3, 2015 @ 09:12 pmOffline
Another great episode guys! Even with already knowing what the videos talk about it's great having these quick refreshers and I'm sure to be watching them all over again when KHIII comes.
The video has an issue. At 11:21, 12:29, and 12:51 the video would go either super bright or dark.
What Kairi did restored Sora's heart back to normal from his Heartless state, but that essentially made Sora from the end of the first Kingdom Hearts to the beginning of Kingdom Hearts II a walking heart, as his body had already been cast away into the darkness to be reborn in Twilight Town as his Nobody Roxas |
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March 4, 2015 @ 03:59 amOffline
Thanks for your comment. That's a good point regarding Ven and why his body was left behind. It is a bit unclear what happens when your heart leaves the body. However, the simplest explanation is that he doesn't have any darkness in his heart and wouldn't therefore be sent to the Realm of Darkness, which is the one we went with in the script. But yours is quite valid and I'll be sure to keep it in mind if it's relevant for the remaining episodes. I, however, don't really see what the problem is regarding your second point. Because that's exactly the interview quote I used when writing the Vanitas part. We were discussing how Vanitas might still be able to return, since him reappearing in DDD wasn't just YMX pulling him back from the past, but rather him appearing from deep inside Sora, meaning that he wasn't exactly eradicated by Ven. I'm actually very interested in this, so if I'm missing something here, please let me know :D |
I'm not misunderstanding. No no, I didn't take any offense. Well I didn't until Taochans post. Sorry if it came off as directed or angry to anyone else. I was just discussing my point and replying to responses to my own opinions. That's just it though. Your site is the only place I've seen this description. It's not the explanation itself its that there is no official statement on the matter. To throw in ones own personal theory as a fact is misleading. That's all I was pointing out. It made just as much sense to say exactly what happened there wasn't every clarified and of all the theories and opinions you can find scattered on sites that is the most true statement. I've seen no one argue against it being a personal theory/explanation of the staff or argue against the fact there is no true clarification on it. Basically it just feels wrong to me to offer a personal theory as a fact to a video many will find and look to. That is my stance and that is what I was expressing. This has nothing to do with my own personal theory on the matter or yours even. It was using that personal theory as fact that is the issue I feel. I don't keep up with interview or stuff myself anymore but I did make a thread recently on the topic just out of curiosity and a staff even pointed out to me there is no explanation of this phenomenon. (the theory they proposed also differed from this one) |
March 4, 2015 @ 04:22 amOffline
@Taochan didn't mean anything by it at all |
March 4, 2015 @ 07:33 amOffline
Finally got to watch this in its entirety and I'd say you made a good job on it. This should definitely help people unfamiliar with the setting getting a better grasp.
Sure, some of the things that are still kept vague inside the series could have been marked as such with a bit more emphasis, but the choosen interpretations are the ones which make the most sense based on what is known so far.
Especially that "walking heart" issue since while it is not officially confirmed anywhere, we do see Riku's heart in the KH FM scenes in the Realm of Darkness with a physical projection as well as Young Xehanort in DDD explicitly referring to the robed Figure as "Xehanort reduced to just a heart".
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March 5, 2015 @ 05:39 amOffline
While we have indeed no official confirmation, the explanation given there is the most appropriate one as Ven having an artificial heart of pure light is an important plot point. Normally when the heart leaves the body the body disappears in some manner (swallowed by darkness or dissolving into light sparkles as seen with Sora, Eraqus and Master Xehanort). Kairi and Ven are the only ones where this doesn't happen when their hearts leave their bodies.: |
— What about Vanitas? Nomura: Vanitas is different than Xemnas and Ansem; he doesn’t necessarily have a physical form. He reacted to Ventus within Sora, so that’s how he was visible. |
The video isn't just about those who are directly inside Sora's heart (Naminé is in Kairi's for example) and Vanitas does have an indirect connection with Sora (through Ven) as that is what gives him his appearance. |
March 5, 2015 @ 06:40 amOffline
@incognito, I don't know why you decided to edit your post like 20 times. I'm going to reply to parts that I've already seen and already had a response to regardless.
Except it is personal theories. It also had nothing to do with terminology. I expressed terms shouldn't be given to something that actually lacks one when the subject is a video meant to info fans and catch them up with facts they've missed. I know the purified thing is to long to explain so I do get not bothering with that. (but I only offered that much since its apparently the only time it was mentioned in any material) I just don't agree with giving explanation to something that has none just for the sake of having an explanation to give. (especially when the ones debating it with me keep pointing out most fans overlook or don't even care about Soras form) it just doesn't feel right, like it's misleading. |
It's really really really not a personal theory.
You should really know that better than anyone, considering how many threads you've made about KH. But, Seph has put it more eloquently than I could hope to so I'm not going to try and will instead point you to his post.
I've not once said your term was silly nor you and your friends continued defense of it. Only that I don't agree with passing it as fact. Projected shell", "walking heart", "soras heartless body reshaped", plus any other term added since 2008. All of those are good answers to it but not something that should be passed as fact. Offered as possible explanations, definitely, but not fact. |
I'm sorry but no matter how I look at it it feels like an attack since to call opinions silly is to call that person as its their expressed thoughts. But I can believe it's not intentional. Everyone has been misinterpreted on the internet at least once. And I can see when rereading it I slipped into offering alternatives but I was getting sidetracked and that isn't the point I'm making. It's not about the term given but giving one for the sake of having an explanation. Everything else outside the two posts suggesting alternates is criticism/opinions that you asked to receive. So I took (and still do) it as offense but after your reply I don't thin it was meant to come off that way. |
It may be silly to many at this point to keep going on about it but when people reply to me I'm gonna answer back. It's just how I am and one of my faults. (the only way I know to bypass it is to use the ignore list like I do with the member Samhain) |
March 5, 2015 @ 07:22 amOffline
Exactly, it has no actual name. So one that was short and summed it up as bluntly as possible was used. I understand people not liking it and finding it jarring, I do. That is a valid concern and helps us to try to use terminology that is easy for newcomers to understand but won't alienate the people who have been involved in all of the series. But there was a very legitimate thought process behind its implementation and at the end of the day these videos have to first and foremost accommodate to their target audience, which is what was essentially trying to be explained in the older posts. |
[COLOR=#333333] You should really know that better than anyone, considering how many threads you've made about KH. But, Seph has put it more eloquently than I could hope to so I'm not going to try and will instead point you to his post. |
It absolutely has everything to do with terminology. You've acknowledged in your own posts that you know what happened, you just have provided alternative phrases to describe it which are valid but couldn't have worked in the video for various reasons. So really, that is what it boils down to and nothing else. Also, I don't know why you're lumping in anyone else's responses to you with mine to you? I only addressed the situation because it had been a page of discussing what terminology could have been better than "walking heart" and had no end in sight. |
I never accused you of that? I think that you harping on this issue derailed the entire thread and after the initial comment was no longer helping to give us actual constructive criticism for future endeavors but is just nitpicking just for the sake of it. I'll reiterate myself here to try to really drive home what I'm getting at: I absolutely understand how hearing the term might throw off a long term fan who is 7 games into the series but for the sake of time and for the sake of at least giving an explanation "walking heart" was deemed the most concise and blunt phrase. Pointing out that it seems awkward because you're not familiar with it, etc, is helpful and lets us know that it was a jarring term so to try to steer clear of future dialogue choices that may require something like that. Trying to suggest alternatives that YOU like, is not helpful and only comes across as you trying to use an opportunity to show how much more you know than other people. |
Okay, that's literally just your excuse to have the last word on the subject, lol. What you're essentially saying here is that you're telling me that if I don't stop responding to you, you'll keep responding forever so it's my fault for continuing to reply when I should clearly just let you have the last word. This is not a viable way to act on the internet and will cause problems which you absolutely know. |
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Incognito, if you wish to continue this discussion about what was happening with Sora's body and heart, you are absolutely free to do so in another thread but this is a subject that needs to be dropped.
There are simple facts that can be taken from the event Sora experiences:
1) He becomes a Heartless
2) His body and soul become Roxas
3) Kairi purifies the darkness around Sora's heart, thus returning him to a human form
4) Despite having a human form, his body and soul were still Roxas
6) He was still an existence of a heart but with a physical form that was not his original body and Xemnas calls him "incomplete" and "not whole", citing the fact he is missing his body who is currently at that time a new-born Roxas
Those are facts that we know from interviews, watching the scenes, and just from knowing how the Nobody-Heartless process works. We have seen this happen with SoD who was a heart with no body (specifically cited by Young Xehanort in KH3D).
There is nothing about this interpretation that is personal. Absolutely all of it has been pulled from canon. The only thing "personal" about it was the use of "walking heart", which we have repeatedly acknowledged as a term that probably could have been changed but for the sake of time, we decided to stick to.
Let's drop it now. There are so many other things in this video worth discussing.
March 7, 2015 @ 02:13 amOffline
Yay! Great video! Absolutely great! And it definitely made my day to watch it, seeing as how Sora's my favorite character and this has always been one of my favorite aspects of the series. Great job, everyone! Great job!:D
Just a few nitpicks, though:
"...being the only person to ever return to his human form after being a Nobody." Is it just me, or should that be "Heartless" there instead of "Nobody"? Otherwise, it sounds like Sora was Roxas--and yes, I know that Roxas housed what was originally Sora's body and soul for a while, but that sentence seems to imply that Sora and Roxas are exactly the same, and that Roxas was carrying around Sora's will, and remembering everything about him or something--and I don't think that's what you guys meant at all.
I mean, I know that Sora reassimilates with Roxas at the beginning of KHII, and therefore gets those parts back at that time, but Kairi and Naminé also do that same thing. So in that case, Sora is certainly not the only person to return to his (true) human form, after being a "Nobody" or whatever. Granted, Naminé's a special case--and she's not exactly Kairi, and we really don't know how she was made or where she came from at all--but I feel like still saying that sentence like this is really, really misleading; "Heartless" makes much more sense to me, because that is what Sora turned into and came back from.
Though... I guess with that, that could also be wrong, seeing as how Xehanort did the same thing, too. But didn't Xehanort only get back a physical appearance by possessing Riku to do so? In that instance, saying Sora's the only person to ever return to his (true) human form after being a Heartless makes more sense to me then what's said in the video, but that's just my opinion.
I think there might be another thing like that in this video--and the last one--that seems wrong to me, too. But... I think it's more for how the sentences are structured. Like, besides the Heartless/Nobody instance listed above (if I'm even right about that), I don't think you've gotten anything wrong at all. Rather, it's probably just my fault because I might be misinterpreting what the phrases mean, just by how they're stated in the video or something? IDK.
Oh, one other thing... I know that Xion was initially created by the memories that Xemnas sampled of Sora's during KHIFM, but didn't she also absorb the leaked memories of Kairi that Naminé let loose during CoM, and that's why she had to return to Sora at the end of Days?
And isn't it even hinted at that it's moreso for those memories--through Sora himself, as Xemnas put it--that begins shaping "it" (Xion) into the dark haired version of Kairi that most people seem to see when they look at her? If so, it might have been important to mention those things in the video (and even why it was that Roxas had to return to Sora), but that's the only nitpick I can have, really. =)
Great job, guys, and I can't wait to see more! These videos are such a wonder to behold: I can tell you that much right now, and I can't wait for next month's!:)
And I'm SO glad that the casual fans--through this video--might finally realize that Sora was used as a conduit to create Naminé, and just why it is that Sora and Vanitas look alike: I know most casual fans usually don't realize these things, so you've probably saved them a great headache when it's perhaps addressed in KHIII. LOL. :)
Edit: Now that I think about it, if you guys want to--and have the time or inclination to--it might be cool to have a video that talks about the people that are connected to Kairi. Granted, that might be a bit redundant after this video (as it all ready touched on some of the cases here), but I'd love to see someone explain how Xion is "Kairi as Sora remembers her"--like Naminé said in Days, even though she was of course created from Sora's memories--because most people really seem to overlook that important fact.
Other things, too--like how Kairi's connected to Aqua, and how that led to her (possibly) getting Destiny's Embrace through the "delivery boy principle" with Riku in KHII--would also be neat and helpful, I think:)
Or heck: even a video that just talks about Kairi's importance to the series at all, even though she's usually not actively doing things in it, would also be wonderful--seeing as how most people don't seem to see the important weight of her character throughout this saga, and just what it can mean for the future, like in KHIII.
Thanks a bunch for even considering this. Keep up the fantastic work, guys! ^_^
March 9, 2015 @ 03:12 amOffline
Wait, so after he was restored by Kairi, Sora didn't have a body? So literally a 'walking heart'? So his body (and Ventus' heart) went to Roxas and he was just clinging on to humanity given to him by Kairi? So from the end(ish) of KH1 and until the beginning of KH2 when Roxas merged with Sora, he didn't have a body? I don't understand, can someone please explain?
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I believe it's third tier or fourth tier canon; but we don't know how Roxas is going to be brought back. Assumedly it's going to be some way that Sora can stay whole but we don't know yet.
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