The Lost World: Toy Story
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- Published on July 6, 2015 @ 05:13 pm
- Written by Arielle
Throughout the years, there has been a high demand for a Pixar film-based world in Kingdom Hearts with Toy Story always being at the top of fan's lists. It is understandable considering how popular the Toy Story film franchise is among young adults who were just children when the 1995 film first released. Series Director Tetsuya Nomura has also been repeatedly asked about the inclusion of Pixar-based worlds throughout the years, and back in 2012 he had this to say on the subject:
"I wish and wish, but I’ve wanted for a long time to have Pixar titles appear in the series. I’m already working on many ideas, but I can’t say whether they will become a reality or not."
Proof of this long desire of Nomura's has long since been found within the data of Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix + with the existence of untextured Woody and Buzz models. Many believe that the main characters of Toy Story were going to be summons added in for the release of KH2FM, and yet that does not appear to be the first time Toy Story was planned for a Kingdom Hearts game.
Found within the pages of the "Kingdom of Hearts (tentative)" design document that was given to Disney staff for proposal purposes in the early development days of Kingdom Hearts is a plethora of unused designs and art. One such piece of art that remains lost in the annals of history is the existence of an unused Toy Story world design.
In the world artwork shown above, you can see Andy's house and Al's Toy Barn all sitting on top of the iconic Pizza Planet rocket that has appeared in numerous Pixar films over the last 20 years. Despite Nomura's long-time desire to see Pixar worlds in Kingdom Hearts, it is still a surprise that the push for it has been going for longer than 13 years.
What isn't surprising is the lack of Toy Story in the first Kingdom Hearts game, especially since Disney and Pixar were having numerous disagreements over their business relationship and Toy Story 2 around the time Kingdom Hearts was in development. There were probably many barriers that kept Squaresoft and Nomura from being able to have permission to use it, but that clearly did not stop them from at least pitching the idea of it as shown from the design document.
In 2006, Disney and Pixar merged as one company so the issues that may have existed back then that limited the inclusion of Pixar worlds in Kingdom Hearts is gone. Now it is only a matter of Nomura and the development team to go to infinity and beyond to make this a reality.
Perhaps the time for Toy Story and Pixar-based worlds has arrived with Kingdom Hearts III which promises to be chock full of brand new worlds based on Disney films!
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Perhaps the time for Toy Story and Pixar-based worlds has arrived with Kingdom Hearts III which promises to be chock full of brand new worlds based on Disney films!
I think there's no better time to introduce Pixar into the KH universe than now, especially with Toy Story. Post-KH3, Pixar's involvement could really elongate the lifespan of the series, and who doesn't want that?
It would be really cool to have Toy Story world in KHIII. It would look amazing with the power of PS4!
Hmm, the blue pall thing kinda looks like a globe. Maybe earth or a anther planet? Maybe it has something to do with the aliens in the first Toy Story movie?
I think that blue building is that pizza hut(?) where they found those green alien guys.
I think that blue building is that pizza hut(?) where they found those green alien guys.
:c
Nomura's quote is even more depressing now that we know they've been trying to include Toy Story since the very beginning ;~;
Also guys, we've been trying to figure it out all day but if you know what that blue building thing on the top right of the Toy Story world is, please tell us!
I think it's supposed to be Pizza Planet, though I'm not sure
I'm not sure what the blueish building/location could be. Most of the Pizza Planet things were red except the interior.
I forget, but what did Sid's house look like?
Nomura's quote is even more depressing now that we know they've been trying to include Toy Story since the very beginning ;~;
;~; At least he never stopped wanting it. <3
I think there's no better time to introduce Pixar into the KH universe than now, especially with Toy Story. Post-KH3, Pixar's involvement could really elongate the lifespan of the series, and who doesn't want that?
Definitely, especially considering how many Pixar works there are. It's not THAT much, but enough that there are plenty of fun choices to pull from.
It would be really cool to have Toy Story world in KHIII. It would look amazing with the power of PS4!
Hmm, the blue pall thing kinda looks like a globe. Maybe earth or a anther planet? Maybe it has something to do with the aliens in the first Toy Story movie?
There were "aliens" in the second film where Buzz is on that "planet" fighting Zurg and some aliens...
I think that blue building is that pizza hut(?) where they found those green alien guys.
It doesn't look like Pizza Planet...That place was more flat and not as tall.
I forget, but what did Sid's house look like?
I expect a Pixar world to appear in KH3. I'm not a fan of most Pixar movies--and I'm glad we were saved from them so long into the series--but I guess I'd take them before Star Wars or Marvel. Besides, that Tron world in DDD was pretty bad, so Pixar worlds couldn't be much worse.
Holy Crap, Toy Story was an option for the first game? That just makes this more unfortunate. Toy Story was never the first in my list of Pixar films I wanted in the series, but I still think it would work well. Though I would be content if we just got the Buzz and Woody summons that didn't make KH2 :)
There were "aliens" in the second film where Buzz is on that "planet" fighting Zurg and some aliens... |
Wait, were the tree eyed aliens only in the second movie? I could swear there was a scene in the first movie where Buzz falls into a machine full of the toy aliens. But it has been over ten years since I watched the first movie.... I also watched an cartoon series(with glorious Finnish dub) about Buzz when I was a kid, so maybe that lead me think the toy aliens were always there.. Dam I feel old.
I love Pixar but theres only one I think would fit. I wouldn't say no to others if they were done right but.
BRAVE
Man, the struggle to put Toy Story in the series is kinda funny when you look back at it. Toy Story and Monster's Inc would be my choices for Pixar Worlds in KH3.
Wait, were the tree eyed aliens only in the second movie? I could swear there was a scene in the first movie where Buzz falls into a machine full of the toy aliens. But it has been over ten years since I watched the first movie.... I also watched an cartoon series(with glorious Finnish dub) about Buzz when I was a kid, so maybe that lead me think the toy aliens were always there.. Dam I feel old.
No, they were in all three (Sid wins one of the aliens from a prize grabber where Woody and Buzz were hiding in the first movie). We're just trying to figure out what that blue building thingamajig is on the world art.
Now I want a Toy Story world more than ever.
I keep wanting to say the blue thing is Pizza Planet but it looks nothing like it. However the thingy on top looks like it has "planit" written on it. But it's so vague it might not even be a word at all.
I love Pixar but theres only one I think would fit. I wouldn't say no to others if they were done right but.
BRAVE
I used to think Brave was perfect with the little Will O' the Wisps and the whole idea about being "brave" xD
Right now, I'm a bit more of the opposite in that Brave would work but isn't as necessary as Toy Story since it seems like the desire for this specific world has existed for years compared to the newer films.
Holy Crap, Toy Story was an option for the first game? That just makes this more unfortunate. Toy Story was never the first in my list of Pixar films I wanted in the series, but I still think it would work well. Though I would be content if we just got the Buzz and Woody summons that didn't make KH2 :)
Not so much an option, but rather it was pitched to Disney at some point which is why the artwork exists.
Man, the struggle to put Toy Story in the series is kinda funny when you look back at it. Toy Story and Monster's Inc would be my choices for Pixar Worlds in KH3.
Monster's Inc would be great, too. The doors motif will always fit xD
Sora needs Frozen and Brave. they focus so much on friendship that I think he's sort of forgotten family is important too.
Toy Story is one of the few Pixar movies I'd like to see in KH. At this point I'd be surprised to not see it in KH3, given how hard they've tried to included it all these years.
I'm guessing it would end up being like Ven's portion of Castle of Dreams in BBS, with the gang growing small. Seeing how expansive the worlds are going to be we'll probably have full access to Andy's and Cid's houses. Maybe Cid's dog as a mini-boss?
Sora needs Frozen and Brave. they focus so much on friendship that I think he's sort of forgotten family is important too.
Honestly, Sora would probably think of Riku in both instances before his family XD Elsa being like Riku, hiding from Sora during KH2, thinking he was a monster for giving into the darkness/not worthy of forgiveness. Merida being like Riku in that they both made hasty decisions that nearly ruined many lives.
You're prolly right, spock; I was just thinking that the only way Sora'd think of the 'rents is if his momma told him something about the day he was born, which might play a part in the beginning of KH3. (like if there was something like he wasn't breathing at first or something wierd, scaring his mom half to death. You know, some consequence of his heart stopping to help Ven; since I know for a fact he proly can't remember that far back; if you're lucky you might remember something when you were four, but no further back than that. So if anyone knew about it, esp if there was something strange, his mom would remember.) Sorry about the bit off topic.
Anyway I'd love them to finally get Toy Story into KH. Or Monsters, or some other Pixar movie. Let's see what develops. ^^
Maybe that Toy Story world in KH1 was really a Toy Story 2 world. Think about it; the only time in Toy Story when the toys actually went to Big Al's Toy Barn was the second movie. So in that case, the tall blue building might be the airport.
I really hope we get some Pixar worlds in KH 3. My top choices would probably be Monster's Inc, Toy Story and The Incredibles.
If they don't put in Marvel, The Incredibles would be a pretty good replacement.
I would love a Toy Story World. So many places they could go with it and with the series being 3 movies long with a TV show to boot you could do a lot with it in the future of KH. I also think a lot of people forget about Finding Nemo as far as Pixar is concerned. I think I'd prefer that more than a new Atlantica. I mean they couldn't introduce Ariel's daughter yet could they?
I'm in favor of
Toy Story
Incredibles
Finding Nemo
Monster's Inc.
Maybe Cars? Since Planes takes place there too you can do a lot with it flexibility wise
I haven't seen the newer Pixar movies though (Brave, Up, and the one they just released) so I guess I'm not as invested in those titles.
We need A Bug's Life. Seriously how cool would it be to fly around as insect SDG!?
Just kidding...sort of
We were so close D:!!! Maybe this time around it can finally be a thing. With how successful 3 was and we are getting 4 probably not too long after KH3 comes out, as long as KH3 comes out before then, [SIZE=2]it could be great timing!
As for the blueish building, I have no idea.[/SIZE] Best I could think of is maybe Sid's house or Pizza Planet, though it doesn't resemble either.
We need A Bug's Life. Seriously how cool would it be to fly around as insect SDG!?
Just kidding...sort of
Honestly A Bug's Life was such a fun movie. I'd love it as a world and it seems like it'd work great with the flowmotion/open world feel of the game.
Flowmotion in a Toy Story world would work so good. A Bugs Life, too, since in both of these movies you are a small character in a large, over-sized world.
Pixar would be amazing for worlds. A cars world would be cool to have lightning on your team. Finally a good match for those annoying car heartless.
And I think it's funny how people are going ho for toy story (a Pixar Studios movie presented by Disney) but nothing else that wasn't originally Disney. Before Disney acquired Pixar, it wasn't Disney...
Pixar would be amazing for worlds. A cars world would be cool to have lightning on your team. Finally a good match for those annoying car heartless.
And I think it's funny how people are going ho for toy story (a Pixar Studios movie presented by Disney) but nothing else that wasn't originally Disney. Before Disney acquired Pixar, it wasn't Disney...
who are these people you speak of because i definitely haven't seen them here
Well I'll be. I had no idea Toy Story was originally considered for the first game. Man, I hope this world gets confirmed for KH3 soon (As in sometime this year). On a side note: Any ideas on what a Toy Story world would be called? I can never imagine a good name for this world.
Pixar would be amazing for worlds. A cars world would be cool to have lightning on your team. Finally a good match for those annoying car heartless.
And I think it's funny how people are going ho for toy story (a Pixar Studios movie presented by Disney) but nothing else that wasn't originally Disney. Before Disney acquired Pixar, it wasn't Disney...
who are these people you speak of because i definitely haven't seen them here
I think he's trying to say it's funny how everyone goes gung ho for Pixar but not Marvel and Star Wars. Kind of like if Disney aquired Dream Works and we all say Shrek and the rest of their collection should immediately be added.
However, Disney and Pixar have always worked closely together, unlike Marvel and Star Wars. So people have always closely associated the two.
I also think a lot of people forget about Finding Nemo as far as Pixar is concerned. I think I'd prefer that more than a new Atlantica. I mean they couldn't introduce Ariel's daughter yet could they?
I guess if the gang were still like their Atlantica selves it would be cool, although their scale compared to Marlin and Dory could be a problem. I just don't want them to turn into any weird fish forms.
If Atlantica does come back then it would be the best time to introduce the second movie. Exploring the world could have you switching between human and merman, since almost half of the movie takes place on land.
Maybe Cars?
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Seriously tho, the thought of Sora transforming into a car makes me cringe so dang hard.
That is what I meant. And I'm not trying to start a debate. I just thought it was kinda funny. I know they've always been closely linked, but Star Wars has been in Disney Parks for a while. I digress. Point is, I think Pixar would be a wonderfully welcomed addition to the KH universe
That is what I meant. And I'm not trying to start a debate. I just thought it was kinda funny. I know they've always been closely linked, but Star Wars has been in Disney Parks for a while. I digress. Point is, I think Pixar would be a wonderfully welcomed addition to the KH universe
Really the only Marvel property I want in KH at the moment is Big Hero 6, and that's because it's Marvel, but it feels so much like Disney lol. In KH4 if they want to use the live action films, then my suggestion is for them to focus only on the Avengers Films and not all the other Marvel Live Action films (Guardians of the Galaxy may be the exception to this though).
And as for Star Wars....the fact that you have 9 films and 3 trilogies that take place decades between each other...is it even possible for Star Wars to really work in KH?
And as for the Atlantica talk, unless we have a 10 year time skip at some point, I don't want Atlantica returning. Melody was 10 in LM2, so to cover that story 10 years would need to pass in the KH story. In other words a 25 year old Sora should be visiting Atlantica for the Little Mermaid 2 plot XD
I guess if the gang were still like their Atlantica selves it would be cool, although their scale compared to Marlin and Dory could be a problem. I just don't want them to turn into any weird fish forms.
If Atlantica does come back then it would be the best time to introduce the second movie. Exploring the world could have you switching between human and merman, since almost half of the movie takes place on land.
My only gripe about Atlantica's return is her daughter is 12 in the sequel. It would require some time acrobatics in a game that's already been criticized for such things. Maybe it would work by saying time works differently in each world?
[video=youtube;_kVxa12Dnmg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kVxa12Dnmg[/video]
Seriously tho, the thought of Sora transforming into a car makes me cringe so dang hard.
[SPOILER="Sora Donald and Goofy as Cars"]
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Toy Sora looks like Chucky 0-0
And I think it's funny how people are going ho for toy story (a Pixar Studios movie presented by Disney) but nothing else that wasn't originally Disney. Before Disney acquired Pixar, it wasn't Disney...
Pixar makes the same type of films disney does (animated, family films). Because they're similar, it's a lot easier to visualize Sora talking to characters like Woody and Buzz as opposed to Tony Stark. That doesn't really matter though because Tron and POTC (non animated movies) have worlds in KH 2, which worked fine so they could easily make things like Star Wars and Marvel work in KH 3.
I would rather see a Muppets world though (which is also a Disney property).
Really the only Marvel property I want in KH at the moment is Big Hero 6, and that's because it's Marvel, but it feels so much like Disney lol. In KH4 if they want to use the live action films, then my suggestion is for them to focus only on the Avengers Films and not all the other Marvel Live Action films (Guardians of the Galaxy may be the exception to this though).
Big Hero 6 is way more Disney than Marvel. It's nothing like the series. The Movie creators even said they didn't read the comics before they worked on the movie and that they picked a small property so they could do just that.
And as for Star Wars....the fact that you have 9 films and 3 trilogies that take place decades between each other...is it even possible for Star Wars to really work in KH?
Clone Wars would be great. I haven't seen Rebels but it might work well too.
Big Hero 6 is way more Disney than Marvel. It's nothing like the series. The Movie creators even said they didn't read the comics before they worked on the movie and that they picked a small property so they could do just that.
Clone Wars would be great. I haven't seen Rebels but it might work well too.
Well regardless I think San Fransokyo would work well in KH. I fell in love with that movie when I saw it.
But again with Star Wars, I just think the timeline wouldn't work with KH. The only way I could see Star Wars working is if they took different parts of different films and combine them together and essentially do an original retelling of the story, but I highly doubt they will attempt that with something like Star Wars.
My only gripe about Atlantica's return is her daughter is 12 in the sequel. It would require some time acrobatics in a game that's already been criticized for such things. Maybe it would work by saying time works differently in each world?
Time already flows differently in each world. Characters like Maleficent and the PoH look the same as they did 10 years ago.
[SPOILER="Sora Donald and Goofy as Cars"]
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Oh gawd why...
Having a Cars world would be the most awkward thing ever. Not to mention that you'd probably lose access to almost all of your abilities, it'd be like Lion Form just 10 times worse (even though Lion Form wasn't that bad). At best I could see it working as some sort of mini-game world where you just race around or something.
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Toy Sora looks like Chucky 0-0
Lol Kudos to the artist for the creativity.
I don't see why we need to have a transformation for every world, most of them would work fine with just regular Sora.
Looks good for concept art. With a bit of luck we will be able to get a toy story world in Kingdom Hearts 3. I'm more a fan of the older movies but Toy Story had always been a classic to me. Add that and a The Jungle Book world. :cool:
That would be interesting if they had Pixar, but kinda odd too since their style is different from traditional Disney films. Meh, the whole concept of Kingdom Hearts including Disney is a miracle work in itself, so who knows.
Kind of sucks too since Toy Story would have been one of the more ideal worlds to add in pertaining to Kingdom Hearts with the whole puppets/toys growing their own hearts :/
But Grey haired Sora looks pretty cool too #inb4theSoranortideawasplannedfromthestart
| No, they were in all three (Sid wins one of the aliens from a prize grabber where Woody and Buzz were hiding in the first movie). We're just trying to figure out what that blue building thingamajig is on the world art. |
Yes, that is the thing I was looking for. I thought that the blue thingy in the picture looked the same as the prize grabber in the first movie, but now after watching that scene, it looks nothing like it. :(
I wonder if the Toy Story world in KH III will consist of just one movie or will it have all 3 movies in separate visits? I would personally love them to have all 3 movies in different visits. It sounds like in the first game was a fusion of 1 and 2.
I'm not sure how Toy Story 3 would work as a world but I'm down for it. It's literally the only pixar movie that has made me cry like a baby.
I wonder if the Toy Story world in KH III will consist of just one movie or will it have all 3 movies in separate visits? I would personally love them to have all 3 movies in different visits. It sounds like in the first game was a fusion of 1 and 2.
I'm not sure how Toy Story 3 would work as a world but I'm down for it. It's literally the only pixar movie that has made me cry like a baby.
I don't think that would be very possible. The 3rd film relies on Andy being 18 and going to college, so unless time flies by THAT fast in a Toy Story World, at best we'd get the first two or the 3rd and not all three ;c
so almost the lost world toy story world wow in kingdom hearts and heck I wish this world would be awesome in kingdom hearts 3 too I really wish
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