Nomura On Kingdom Hearts 3's Development + Series Continuation
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While it doesn't feel like it at all, it has been over a month since series director Tetsuya Nomura announced at E3 2013 that Kingdom Hearts III was at long last in development for next generation consoles. For many fans this announcement was well overdue, feeling that the previous four handheld titles were not enough to hold their attention and desired to see a true end to the Xehanort Saga. At Japan Expo 2013, Final Fantasy World and Final Fantasy Ring were given the chance to talk with Nomura about the process of developing Kingdom Hearts III.
Even though the Osaka team has developed numerous Kingdom Hearts titles before like Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories, Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep, Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance], and Kingdom Hearts -HD 1.5 ReMIX-, this will be their first time developing a numbered title on next generation systems from scratch. With Nomura serving as a supervisor to the Osaka development team, they have done extensive tests and made preparations to insure a smooth development cycle. He feels that because of these preparations, they are finally ready to begin full development on the game.
Of course, these kinds of plans can only be made with proper cooperation between Nomura in Tokyo and the development team in Osaka, so it sometimes requires co-director Tai Yasue and producer Rie Nishi to make trips to Tokyo to discuss the game's development, as well as frequent video conference calls to the Square Enix offices in Shinjuku.
"In fact, the co-director and producer Tai Yasue and Rie Nishi are there. They are key members of the Kingdom Hearts project, so when they need to discuss a lot of different topics with me, they come to Tokyo. This is our usual method of working. But as technology is ever advancing, our new offices in Shinjuku are now equipped with a video conference system. Now, Yasue and Nishi can send me their materials or proposals in advance, which allows me to add my comments or my drawings and show them on camera in our video conferencing. In addition, there is no time difference, so even if we are far apart, it is easy to work."
Co-director Yasue and producer Nishi have taken a proactive role when it comes to crafting Kingdom Hearts III, often bouncing idea off of each other and Nomura. The series director told Final Fantasy World and Final Fantasy Ring that they felt it was better to have the whole team thinking of ideas rather than just himself, which has only added to the unique identity the Kingdom Hearts series has gained throughout the years.
Nomura briefly mentions the inclusion of Final Fantasy characters in Kingdom Hearts III, saying that it was much harder to include them in earlier games because of space limitations of the handheld games. Because of the lack of space issues on next generation systems, it has become much easier for them to include Final Fantasy characters. "It depends on the volume of the game itself – there is a possibility that we are going to insert a lot of FF characters into KHIII as well."
In another recent interview with the Los Angeles Times, Nomura further expanded on the direction he and the development team plans to take with Kingdom Hearts III, as well as reaffirming that the series itself would not see an end with the resolution of the Xehanort Saga in the upcoming title.
“As a core game, this is finally the third, and 10 years have passed. I couldn’t call this a trilogy. There have been so many spinoffs. In ‘Kingdom Hearts 3,’ the battles that the characters have been fighting for the past 10 years will come to a conclusion. That is the plan. But the series will continue. Only the particular enemy they have been fighting the past 10 years will come to an end.”
This is not the first time Nomura has mentioned that the series would continue after the epic conclusion of the Xehanort Saga, having spoken to Famitsu in July 2011 about the very same topic while promoting the prelude to Kingdom Hearts III, Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance]:
"The series that has developed so far as "the Xehanort saga" should end once and for all in KH3. However, I've outlined a tentative plot that takes place afterward, so we could continue onto a new chapter. Sora would remain the main character; that wouldn't change."
When it comes to the gameplay for Kingdom Hearts III, something many fans are interested in considering that after Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, the classic command system was traded in for the more customizable Command Deck system, used in Birth By Sleep, Kingdom Hearts Re:coded, and Kingdom Hearts 3D. Nomura told the LA Times that fans should turn to Kingdom Hearts 3D for an idea of how Kingdom Hearts III will function, further cementing the idea that the final installment to the Xehanort Saga will contain bold, fast-paced action that fans have become accustomed to these past few years.
None of these ideas are final and could change throughout development, but Nomura strives to deliver a fun, exciting game old and new fans of the Kingdom Hearts series can enjoy.
Kingdom Hearts III will be released for the Playstation 4 and Xbox One.
Source: GameInformer, Nova Crystallis
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^ What he said, lol. But man, oh, man! Kingdom Hearts 3 is going to rock our socks off, eh? :D
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(BTW guys if it is a bit hard to read on the forums, please read it on the main site where the formatting looks better) xD
Yeah, I love that they want to have a more in-depth story. Now I want to anticipate a 40 hour campaign ;A;
And the idea of using KH3D gameplay functions makes me giddy for some reason. I know some people hate KH3D's gameplay but I thought the party AI was rather fantastic, and they weren't too overpowered to kill a bunch of enemies on their own, but not underpowered to where they died in two hits like Donald and Goofy in other games. If Donald and Goofy could be just like that, and with a dynamic AI that can change roles depending on the circumstances, I'd be a happy trooper.
Now I will sit in a corner and pray for all of my favorite FF characters...like Laguna. And no XIII characters (except Sazh. He's cool.)
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40 hour campaign sounds good with extra 20 hours for side stuff to unlock the secret movie/ending. :)
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I'm calling it now, all the worlds will be rejoined, the new enemy is gonna be the original Organization XIII (The one from the past) and KH4 is open world.
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An in depth story? Awesome :D
keeping my fingers crossed for red Xlll and vincent
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(BTW guys if it is a bit hard to read on the forums, please read it on the main site where the formatting looks better) xD
Yeah, I love that they want to have a more in-depth story. Now I want to anticipate a 40 hour campaign ;A;
And the idea of using KH3D gameplay functions makes me giddy for some reason. I know some people hate KH3D's gameplay but I thought the party AI was rather fantastic, and they weren't too overpowered to kill a bunch of enemies on their own, but not underpowered to where they died in two hits like Donald and Goofy in other games. If Donald and Goofy could be just like that, and with a dynamic AI that can change roles depending on the circumstances, I'd be a happy trooper.
Now I will sit in a corner and pray for all of my favorite FF characters...like Laguna. And no XIII characters (except Sazh. He's cool.)
Wait a minute, people were disappointed with 3D's gameplay? I thought it was fantastic, especially since the flow motion system allowed speed things up a lot and allowed them to have much bigger environments.
More on topic, the biggest thing Nomura mentioned here for me was probably that there would be a lot more FF cameos, the absence of which kind of bothered me in recent games. Here's to hoping that there will be another awesome Sephiroth battle in KH3.
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This would be great. If i ever had a chance to play it, and any future titles.
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Okay seriously in an other interview Nomura said that Kingdom hearts III will have a mix of Kingdom hearts 2 battle style and a mix of dream drop distance and maybe birth by sleep...so that worries me a little now if hes not going to have the battle style of kingdom hearts 2.
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Kingdom Hearts II was a bit too automated and "cinematic" and "flashy". Birth By Sleep and Dream Drop Distance give you good player control, and good presentation. It's a matter of hardcore practicality. The Osaka team has shown more preference to the control and combo style of Kingdom Hearts I, so I don't think too much KHII influence will play into it, other than camera control and mini game things. Every game featuring Sora since KHII has utilized the KHI model, it's not just me. It's clearly the KH teams preference, one way or another.
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I guess I wouldn't mind a battle system similar to 3D, but I did really enjoy how KHII's worked out so hoping for the best. The battle system isn't everything to me, it's the story in the game so I'm excited to see how this in depth story plays out. Honestly, I feel like we are hyping this up so much, but the unlike other things that will let us down, it will only impress us regardless.
As for FF cameos...Laguna. Laguna. Laguna. Please, one of my favorite characters that haven't appeared yet!
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I think 3D has a great battle style and if KH3 has a mix between KH2 and 3D then i expect it to be fantastic, of course i'm not picky when it comes to KH in general ^_-
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I remember reading somewhere on this site that KHIII was going to have reaction commands like KHII, and somewhere else that it was going to have the flow motion from KH3D.
Do you think it'll have both? Would that even be a good idea?
Personally, I liked flow motion better, but I'd be happy with either one. I just don't think it would work very well with both. Sora'd just be way too over powered.
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I remember reading somewhere on this site that KHIII was going to have reaction commands like KHII, and somewhere else that it was going to have the flow motion from KH3D. Do you think it'll have both? Would that even be a good idea? Personally, I liked flow motion better, but I'd be happy with either one. I just don't think it would work very well with both. Sora'd just be way too over powered.
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(except Sazh. He's cool.)
Only if he has his frocobo.
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Okay seriously in an other interview Nomura said that Kingdom hearts III will have a mix of Kingdom hearts 2 battle style and a mix of dream drop distance and maybe birth by sleep...so that worries me a little now if hes not going to have the battle style of kingdom hearts 2.
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Wait a minute, people were disappointed with 3D's gameplay? I thought it was fantastic, especially since the flow motion system allowed speed things up a lot and allowed them to have much bigger environments.
More on topic, the biggest thing Nomura mentioned here for me was probably that there would be a lot more FF cameos, the absence of which kind of bothered me in recent games. Here's to hoping that there will be another awesome Sephiroth battle in KH3.
People didn't like how Sora and Riku's abilities were tied to their Dream Eaters. And that flowmotion sometimes made battles too simple. I loved it, but eh. Everybody has preferences.
Okay seriously in an other interview Nomura said that Kingdom hearts III will have a mix of Kingdom hearts 2 battle style and a mix of dream drop distance and maybe birth by sleep...so that worries me a little now if hes not going to have the battle style of kingdom hearts 2.
I honestly think that the classic command system is very out-of-date, especially considering how more instant the command deck is. It's pretty obvious that the last few games have been used to experiment and build the command deck system further so I think we'll be seeing a culmination of those efforts in KH3 and see a completely new, but similar system.
As for FF cameos...Laguna. Laguna. Laguna. Please, one of my favorite characters that haven't appeared yet!
If we chant his name maybe SE will hear our collective wishes ;A;
I remember reading somewhere on this site that KHIII was going to have reaction commands like KHII, and somewhere else that it was going to have the flow motion from KH3D.
Do you think it'll have both? Would that even be a good idea?
Personally, I liked flow motion better, but I'd be happy with either one. I just don't think it would work very well with both. Sora'd just be way too over powered.
Reaction commands were in KH3D and Nomura has already said that flowmotion is the future of the series. So I'd say expect both since they both have their own uses.
I'm not sure both would work very well unless it's a toggle choice but whatever SE comes up with, i'll be happy no matter what. Leaning KH3 a little more like KH2 isn't so bad in my opinion, i think they did brilliantly and with a new graphic engine KH3 will be spectacular!
Why would they need to toggle reaction commands with flowmotion? KH3D did with having both and it isn't like they replace each other. They aren't alike at all.
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And the idea of using KH3D gameplay functions makes me giddy for some reason. I know some people hate KH3D's gameplay but I thought the party AI was rather fantastic, and they weren't too overpowered to kill a bunch of enemies on their own, but not underpowered to where they died in two hits like Donald and Goofy in other games. If Donald and Goofy could be just like that, and with a dynamic AI that can change roles depending on the circumstances, I'd be a happy trooper.
People hated KH3D's gameplay? I thought they just hated the Dream Eaters and that was it. As far as I could tell, everyone loved everything else about the gameplay.
And yeeeeeeah, sorry, I'm still gonna have to disagree with you on the Dream Eaters. Their A.I. is no better than the A.I. from KH1. I'm still saying that the KH2 A.I. was the best, simply because you interacted with them so much with each character having limit breaks, being absorbed for drive forms, etc. No ally A.I. has ever topped that in my opinion.
nd that flowmotion sometimes made battles too simple. I loved it, but eh. Everybody has preferences.
This, I do disagree with. Flowmotion didn't make ANYTHING easy. In fact, it could often screw yourself up if you use it during boss battles.
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Glad to hear that more FF characters will be involved, maybe also more npc's as well? Would be nice.
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People didn't like how Sora and Riku's abilities were tied to their Dream Eaters. And that flowmotion sometimes made battles too simple. I loved it, but eh. Everybody has preferences.
I honestly think that the classic command system is very out-of-date, especially considering how more instant the command deck is. It's pretty obvious that the last few games have been used to experiment and build the command deck system further so I think we'll be seeing a culmination of those efforts in KH3 and see a completely new, but similar system.
If we chant his name maybe SE will hear our collective wishes ;A;
Reaction commands were in KH3D and Nomura has already said that flowmotion is the future of the series. So I'd say expect both since they both have their own uses.
Why would they need to toggle reaction commands with flowmotion? KH3D did with having both and it isn't like they replace each other. They aren't alike at all.
could you remind me where they used reaction commands? there was the reality shift, i know. am i missing something?
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could you remind me where they used reaction commands? they used it for chests i know, and there was the reality shift. am i missing something?
They're not even used in chests. It is just the Attack button. So no, I don't think there any reaction commands in KH3D whatsoever.
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They're not even used in chests. It is just the Attack button. So no, I don't think there any reaction commands in KH3D whatsoever.
Building flying at you in TWTNW. Press "X" to cut. Do special attack with your DEs or even a special command, reaction prompts appear. They aren't like they were in KH2 but they are there like they were in BBS.
People hated KH3D's gameplay? I thought they just hated the Dream Eaters and that was it. As far as I could tell, everyone loved everything else about the gameplay.
Like I said, people didn't like having the DE's tied to the characters, and I've seen PLENTY of complaints over flowmotion removing the platforming challenge and combat challenge. I didn't think this, but there are people who do.
| And yeeeeeeah, sorry, I'm still gonna have to disagree with you on the Dream Eaters. Their A.I. is no better than the A.I. from KH1. I'm still saying that the KH2 A.I. was the best, simply because you interacted with them so much with each character having limit breaks, being absorbed for drive forms, etc. No ally A.I. has ever topped that in my opinion. |
AI in KH2 was absolutely terrible. Donald and Goofy would always die before a fight ever got started, and while they'd heal at better times than in KH1, I still remember doing mostly everything on my own. I never used their limit breaks because they didn't really do anything when Sora was already able to take down enemies on his own.
In KH3D I loved that my DEs could cast buffs on Sora and Riku, especially at proper moments like when I was in the midst of being hit by a chain of attacks I'd suddenly have Regen cast on my character, and I never had problems with my DEs dying too soon in a fight.
| This, I do disagree with. Flowmotion didn't make ANYTHING easy. In fact, it could often screw yourself up if you use it during boss battles. |
I didn't think it was easy, either. When I did the Secret Portal against Rinzler I don't know how many times I died because I accidentally flowmotioned into his attack.
Other people did, though. Like I said, people have preferences...
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You pressed Y used guard. Press A to do an attack back.
Reaction commands have evolved since KH II. BBS showed off new ways that wasn't just triangle, and DDD used this as well, just at a lesser extent.
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I wouldn't call those reaction commands though. That'd be almost like saying the Command Deck in of itself was a reaction command because there's a triangle button display next to it.
BBS DID have reaction commands, but they're not what you guys are talking about. The reaction commands were things like when you had to rapidly press X or rotate the analog stick to defeat Vanitas, or pressing X at the right time to use Ragnorok, or pressing triangle again and again with Sonic Blade. Those are reaction commands.
What you guys are talking about are just actions that happen to have a button display next to them. But reaction commands themselves are just like quicktime events in which you do nothing but press a certain button because the game tells you to.
Shoot, to further prove my point, in KH3D all you do is press Sonic Blade and it does all the moves automatically. There were no reaction commands there at all (which I actually did not like at all. It did not feel right with Sonic Blade)
The only thing that I think would sort of qualify as a reaction command is when you had to do boss finishers in KH3D using Reality Shift. But even then, I think that's a bit of a stretch.
AI in KH2 was absolutely terrible. Donald and Goofy would always die before a fight ever got started, and while they'd heal at better times than in KH1, I still remember doing mostly everything on my own. I never used their limit breaks because they didn't really do anything when Sora was already able to take down enemies on his own.
Donald and Goofy died all the time but the DREAM EATERS DIDN'T?!
You thought Limit Breaks were useless, yet the DREAM EATER TEAM ATTACKS WEREN'T?!
Da heeeeeeeck?
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I remember reading somewhere on this site that KHIII was going to have reaction commands like KHII, and[I]somewhere else that it was going to have the flow motion from KH3D. |
Originally Posted by Joker'sHeartless 
I think when he said this he just meant pushing triangle during battle like in kh2 and kh1 in the hd remix, not retaliating slashes or reality shifts.
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What you guys are talking about are just actions that happen to have a button display next to them. But reaction commands themselves are just like quicktime events in which you do nothing but press a certain button because the game tells you to.
Shoot, to further prove my point, in KH3D all you do is press Sonic Blade and it does all the moves automatically. There were no reaction commands there at all (which I actually did not like at all. It did not feel right with Sonic Blade)
The only thing that I think would sort of qualify as a reaction command is when you had to do boss finishers in KH3D using Reality Shift. But even then, I think that's a bit of a stretch.
Yes. When you have the ability equipped and you block, the game tells you to "push this button" so you can send a special attack back.
| Donald and Goofy died all the time but the DREAM EATERS DIDN'T?!You thought Limit Breaks were useless, yet the DREAM EATER TEAM ATTACKS WEREN'T?! Da heeeeeeeck? |
My dream eaters never died. Donald and Goofy died all the time. Limit Breaks were pointless and missed a lot of the time. Dream Eater Team Attacks landed every hit.
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I wouldn't call those reaction commands though. That'd be almost like saying the Command Deck in of itself was a reaction command because there's a triangle button display next to it.
No it isn't because they are normal attacks that you use. When a prompt comes on the screen in reaction to something else, THAT is called a "Reaction Command".
| BBS DID have reaction commands, but they're not what you guys are talking about. The reaction commands were things like when you had to rapidly press X or rotate the analog stick to defeat Vanitas, or pressing X at the right time to use Ragnorok, or pressing triangle again and again with Sonic Blade. Those are reaction commands. |
Those were reaction commands, but the ones in KH3D were JUST as much reaction commands than the rest.
| Donald and Goofy died all the time but the DREAM EATERS DIDN'T?! You thought Limit Breaks were useless, yet the DREAM EATER TEAM ATTACKS WEREN'T?! Da heeeeeeeck? |
My DEs only died FIVE times. I can count them on hand! I can't even think of how many times Donald and Goofy died in KH2. Numerous times they would be hit a few times by a boss and be out cold. They were useless!
I have only had to save my DEs twice in a boss fight, once during the YMX fight, and the other time when fighting Pete's Secret Portal (which was weird but I hadn't been paying attention to my DEs HP during the fight)
DE attacks were quite helpful, especially when it came to becoming invincible in the midst of a chained attack by an enemy if you used their link AND took a good chunk of HP from enemies if not killing them completely. So much more functional than spinning around with Goofy and hitting a couple of times and then finishing the attack with nothing really changed at all from when you started. Those attacks were absolutely useless in boss battles and more for show than functionality.
I think when he said this he just meant pushing triangle during battle like in kh2 and kh1 in the hd remix, not retaliating slashes or reality shifts.
I'm not even talking about reality shifts.
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I'm...I'm still not used to this...steady info ;A;
The bit on the gameplay being like kh3 wasn't to appealing to me since I wasn't to fond of the flowmotion but eh nothing's final yet. 8D
| Nomura briefly mentions the inclusion of Final Fantasy characters in Kingdom Hearts III, saying that it was much harder to include them in earlier games because of space limitations of the handheld games. Because of the lack of space issues on next generation systems, it has become much easier for them to include Final Fantasy characters. "It depends on the volume of the game itself – there is a possibility that we are going to insert a lot of FF characters into KHIII as well." |
Plz let this mean we'll be getting our FF character cameo's back. D8
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I'm...I'm still not used to this...steady info ;A;
The bit on the gameplay being like kh3 wasn't to appealing to me since I wasn't to fond of the flowmotion but eh nothing's final yet. 8D
This is mostly old news though xD Nomura's been doing a lot of interviews lately but they are all very redundant and asking the same things we've heard over and over.
Poor guy.
| Plz let this mean we'll be getting our FF character cameo's back. D8 |
He already said that several times they will be returning xD
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@Chaser and Spockanort: I'm just gonna agree to disagree here.
Plz let this mean we'll be getting our FF character cameo's back. D8
I would laugh so hard if there turns out to be no Final Fantasy cameos whatsoever and Nomura's just trolling.
This is mostly old news though xD Nomura's been doing a lot of interviews lately but they are all very redundant and asking the same things we've heard over and over.
Poor guy.
Yeah... I really wish they'd wait until after we at least get a new trailer or something before they keep interviewing him and asking the same questions again and again.
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I would laugh so hard if there turns out to be no Final Fantasy cameos whatsoever and Nomura's just trolling.
So cruel yet possible.....
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I think it's a good time to stop the interviews for a little bit as well.
As for reaction commands, I'd like to see them return, along with elements of all battle systems.
My Dream Eaters died like five times and the team attacks were some of the strongest in the game.
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correct me if im wrong, but didnt nomura say that summons were going to be making a return in kh3?
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Yeah, I think he did.
I'm all for the ifrit summon we didn't get. And naturally more Disney characters!
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Yeah, I think he did.
I'm all for the ifrit summon we didn't get. And naturally more Disney characters!
It would be great if we got an ff summon for kh3. Though im totally in favor for new disney summons as well :)
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Yeah, I think he did.
I'm all for the ifrit summon we didn't get. And naturally more Disney characters!
You mean Bahamut? I never heard Ifrit was supposed to be a summon.
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Yeah, it was bahamutlol. I confuse the two easily.
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Ifrit would be awesome though
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I always assumed Mushu was sort of a mock Bahamut.
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I would laugh so hard if there turns out to be no Final Fantasy cameos whatsoever and Nomura's just trolling.
Would it be considered weird if I say (despite originally coming over from Final Fantasy to KH) that if they go even more in-depth with the story I wouldn't even mind if they ditch the FF cameos?
I always assumed Mushu was sort of a mock Bahamut.
He's in any case more fitting with the setting of Disney and the whole make-up of the KH Universe itself.
Any FF summon, but especially Ifrit or Bahamut, are so powerful they would destroy a whole world like Destiny Islands in one attack considering how small the KH worlds are.
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Would it be considered weird if I say (despite originally coming over from Final Fantasy to KH) that if they go even more in-depth with the story I wouldn't even mind if they ditch the FF cameos?
He's in any case more fitting with the setting of Disney and the whole make-up of the KH Universe itself.
Any FF summon, but especially Ifrit or Bahamut, are so powerful they would destroy a whole world like Destiny Islands in one attack considering how small the KH worlds are.
im all for a more in depth story, but honestly i'd be upset if we didnt get any ff characters. there hasnt been a large cast of them since kh2.
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Maybe they could disney-fy the bahamut summon, somewhere between ff version and mushsu. Also chocobo summon because idk
With the inclusion of more ff characters, I would really like to see a side quest sort of thing with Noctis and the ff15 cast to tie in with the release of the game and kind of symbolize how closely related these two games were in terms of development team and time.
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Would it be considered weird if I say (despite originally coming over from Final Fantasy to KH) that if they go even more in-depth with the story I wouldn't even mind if they ditch the FF cameos?
He's in any case more fitting with the setting of Disney and the whole make-up of the KH Universe itself.
Any FF summon, but especially Ifrit or Bahamut, are so powerful they would destroy a whole world like Destiny Islands in one attack considering how small the KH worlds are.
I'm not sure about *any* but either way, we're talking about potential Kingdom Hearts versions. They could Disney-fy them and it's not like they really did that much world destruction in the games I've seen them in.
Edit: ninjad
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I'm not sure about *any* but either way, we're talking about potential Kingdom Hearts versions. They could Disney-fy them and it's not like they really did that much world destruction in the games I've seen them in.
Edit: ninjad
you know what they say, great minds haha
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you know what they say, great minds haha
Yeah, our minds are pretty diddlying great!
Now the real question is how to you "water down" a FF summon while still making them seem badass and powerful?
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I just hope they make the summons really strong, keep the drive meter from KH II but make it for summons only and make sure it take a while to fill it up. This way they wouldn't be to overpowered because you can't use them that often.
A chocobo summon could work like dumbo in KH I, that would be awesome in KH IV if it was open world and there were several different summons that could serve as mounts
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Would it be considered weird if I say (despite originally coming over from Final Fantasy to KH) that if they go even more in-depth with the story I wouldn't even mind if they ditch the FF cameos?
I wouldn't think so. To be totally honest, I never really noticed the lack of FF characters from BBS and KH3D until I saw people complaining about it on the Internet.
The only thing I want as far as FF cameos is for them to not bring in any more new FFVII cameos and bring in more characters from the other FF games. If this happens, I'll be happy.
I just hope they make the summons really strong, keep the drive meter from KH II but make it for summons only and make sure it take a while to fill it up. This way they wouldn't be to overpowered because you can't use them that often.
Summons were overpowered before?
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If any summon should be from FF and added to KH3, it should be Ark.
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if only for how ridiculously long that animation is XD
seriously though bahamut would be nice
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Weird question:
When did development of 1.5 ReMIX start? In some interview I read,development of 1.5 ReMIX started around the same time of KH3.
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It looks like it was a couple years ago. I remember reading just the other day that it might've been considered before BBS was finished, but I think it was after that.
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It looks like it was a couple years ago. I remember reading just the other day that it might've been considered before BBS was finished, but I think it was after that.
IGN's rumor is still floating around?
After BBS, the Osaka team went on to work on BBSFM, followed by several staff assisting h.a.n.d. with Re:coded. Then as we all know, they moved onto KH3D, finally followed by key members of the team working with Tokyo staff on 1.5, likely moving onto 2.5 afterwards.
I suppose a more likely scenario would be that III's development (I use that term loosely) began around the same time as 2.5 if that E3 conceptual trailer was anything to go by.
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Nomura says 3's gameplay will be like 3D; pretty sure this means command decks will be coming back which is good to me. Just hope they still manage to keep drive's in the game. And I wonder if dream eaters will still be party members or if they'll go back to donald and goofy. I'd prefer the dream eaters but they might go back to donald and goofy for the story.
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Nomura says 3's gameplay will be like 3D; pretty sure this means command decks will be coming back which is good to me. Just hope they still manage to keep drive's in the game. And I wonder if dream eaters will still be party members or if they'll go back to donald and goofy. I'd prefer the dream eaters but they might go back to donald and goofy for the story.
It'll be Donald and Goofy for a majority of the game.
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Summons were overpowered before?
no, that's not what I said, you must have misunderstood.
If they make the summons really strong though, they have to compromise
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IGN's rumor is still floating around?
After BBS, the Osaka team went on to work on BBSFM, followed by several staff assisting h.a.n.d. with Re:coded. Then as we all know, they moved onto KH3D, finally followed by key members of the team working with Tokyo staff on 1.5, likely moving onto 2.5 afterwards.
I suppose a more likely scenario would be that III's development (I use that term loosely) began around the same time as 2.5 if that E3 conceptual trailer was anything to go by.
No, I wasn't thinking about the rumor about KH3. Actually, there was a report about 1.5 having been worked on since 2011. Just remembered it as I was reading your post.
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I'm seriously hoping for that 40 hour campaign mentioned back a ways. The lengthy storyline is one of my favorite parts of the FF games. As for party members, I honestly stopped caring for Donald and Goofy halfway through KH2. I was hoping Nomura would implement the idea he mentioned of Riku and possibly Mickey being full-time party members, alongside Donald and Goofy, but really it won't make much difference to me, because I'll spend most of the game with Donald subbed out and silently cursing Goofy for not using Cure and I'd probably do the same thing with Riku and Mickey.
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But what if you could play as Riku.
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But what if you could play as Riku.
If Riku was playable in that scenario, I'd probably play as Riku, and have Mickey and the world-specific party member. That's what I do normally, Goofy and the world-specific partner.
But Riku has more or less been confirmed as playable. In the basic overview of the game's plot that was announced, Riku and Mickey are a team looking for the final Keyblade wielder to fight on the side of the Light and Sora, Donald and Goofy are a team looking for some sort of Key, if I remember correctly. Although it's entirely possible that it'll be like KH where it just shows scenes of what they're doing from time to time, but after CoM and 3D there would probably be an uproar if Riku wasn't playable.
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If Riku was playable in that scenario, I'd probably play as Riku, and have Mickey and the world-specific party member. That's what I do normally, Goofy and the world-specific partner.
But Riku has more or less been confirmed as playable. In the basic overview of the game's plot that was announced, Riku and Mickey are a team looking for the final Keyblade wielder to fight on the side of the Light and Sora, Donald and Goofy are a team looking for some sort of Key, if I remember correctly. Although it's entirely possible that it'll be like KH where it just shows scenes of what they're doing from time to time, but after CoM and 3D there would probably be an uproar if Riku wasn't playable.
My thoughts exactly.
Also, while a lot of us are on the topic of game development, how long would it have taken them to make they KH3 trailer, because if Vs. 13 is any indication a trailer like that might mean absolutely nothing in regards to how far the game is in development.
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My thoughts exactly.
Also, while a lot of us are on the topic of game development, how long would it have taken them to make they KH3 trailer, because if Vs. 13 is any indication a trailer like that might mean absolutely nothing in regards to how far the game is in development.
Well, XV went into full development in 2011 right, when that 6 minute trailer was released.
They then spent 2 years in silence on the game because they were moving it to the PS4.
With KHIII already 100% confirmed to be on the PS4/Xbox One, I'm sure development(and then trailers) would be fine. However, what they showed was very very early stuff. They hadn't finished Sora's in-game model, nor Donald and Goofy's, nor was that the actual battle system.
We might have to wait until December for Jump Festa before we get a new trailer (and TGS for XV and 2.5)
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Does this mean there might be the possibility of having something similar to flowmotion in KHIII? Because I loved that about DDD. I can move around the field faster than I could by running/walking.
I wouldn't mind seeing Terra, Balthier, Penelo, Ashe, Vaan, Fran, Basch and Vanille and Sazh in KHIII. :redface:
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Does this mean there might be the possibility of having something similar to flowmotion in KHIII? Because I loved that about DDD. I can move around the field faster than I could by running/walking.
The trailer for KHIII showed some form of flowmotion, and Nomura has said that III would evolve the gameplay of DDD so I think it's safe to assume flowmotion is in ^_^
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The trailer for KHIII showed some form of flowmotion, and Nomura has said that III would evolve the gameplay of DDD so I think it's safe to assume flowmotion is in ^_^
Ah, okay. c: I wonder than if they'll bring back the skateboards from II then for anyone not wanting to use the form of flowmotion in III.
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Ah, okay. c: I wonder than if they'll bring back the skateboards from II then for anyone not wanting to use the form of flowmotion in III.
I hope they do, I wasn't fond of the flowmotion either. =[
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If any summon should be from FF and added to KH3, it should be Ark.
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if only for how ridiculously long that animation is XD
The only thing that could make that beter is if after the ridiculously long sumoning and attack animation, the enemy just flinched and kept on fighting, like in the video. X)
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Ah, okay. c: I wonder than if they'll bring back the skateboards from II then for anyone not wanting to use the form of flowmotion in III.
Not sure about the skateboards, but I hope they make flowmotion completely optional this time around. Andmmake the platforming elements more challenging than in both DDD and BBS.
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Not sure about the skateboards, but I hope they make flowmotion completely optional this time around. Andmmake the platforming elements more challenging than in both DDD and BBS.
Well, you actually could have just walked to a lot of places in DDD. You weren't forced to flowmotion to get anywhere*.
*95% of the areas
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^For chests? I'm counting world specific fm too.
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Not sure about the skateboards, but I hope they make flowmotion completely optional this time around. Andmmake the platforming elements more challenging than in both DDD and BBS.
...Flowmotion WAS optional. You could totally turn it off if you wanted to.
Honestly, I don't see the point in making flowmotion optional. I feel that if you're going to add something that huge, it should be automatically a part of the game.
In fact, I hope they actually make flowmotion more important and actually required in KH3. Because the problem with making flowmotion mostly optional in KH3D is that they made it so that there could not be any puzzles or challenges if you use flowmotion. Because they designed their levels so that you could run around them without flowmotion turned on. I hope that for KH3, they actually design the levels specifically for flowmotion and make some sort of puzzles that will force you to think about how you can use your flowmotion.
I still don't get the thing about people not liking flowmotion in KH3D. It is not overpowered whatsoever because you can still get hit (in fact, it can actually screw you over if you're fighting a boss fight and you misuse flowmotion while the boss is performing a deadly combo). Shoot, flowmotion is not at all stronger than your regular attacks. At best, it's just a flashier way of dodging and performing attacks. My only problems with flowmotion was that the game wasn't designed to force you to think about creative ways to use it other than constant wall jumping, and that you couldn't customize new move-sets for flowmotion. If they solve both those issues, it'd be perfect.
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As I like to say at times of awesomness...
Awesome Possum. ;3
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...Flowmotion WAS optional. You could totally turn it off if you wanted to.
Honestly, I don't see the point in making flowmotion optional. I feel that if you're going to add something that huge, it should be automatically a part of the game.
In fact, I hope they actually make flowmotion more important and actually required in KH3. Because the problem with making flowmotion mostly optional in KH3D is that they made it so that there could not be any puzzles or challenges if you use flowmotion. Because they designed their levels so that you could run around them without flowmotion turned on. I hope that for KH3, they actually design the levels specifically for flowmotion and make some sort of puzzles that will force you to think about how you can use your flowmotion.
I still don't get the thing about people not liking flowmotion in KH3D. It is not overpowered whatsoever because you can still get hit (in fact, it can actually screw you over if you're fighting a boss fight and you misuse flowmotion while the boss is performing a deadly combo). Shoot, flowmotion is not at all stronger than your regular attacks. At best, it's just a flashier way of dodging and performing attacks. My only problems with flowmotion was that the game wasn't designed to force you to think about creative ways to use it other than constant wall jumping, and that you couldn't customize new move-sets for flowmotion. If they solve both those issues, it'd be perfect.
It did feel a little overpowered though. I still loved it for battles.
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You could still have turned it off/not used it and then just used flowmotion after you beat the game to get every chest.
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it was fine for battles. I just didn't like that I could literally get every treasure in a single world visit. That might not be direct flowmotion.
Well, like I said, this is why I think they SHOULD have flowmotion required so that way they can better design the areas so that you'd have to creatively use flowmotion. I don't think they should turn down flowmotion at all, I think they need to expand upon it and make it better. Customizable flowmotion move-sets and levels designed as puzzles that involve using your flowmotion creatively could make it a lot of fun and a challenge.
Battles, I think flowmotion is perfect the way it is. I just wanted more customizable move-sets to fight them with, but to be fair, I rarely used flowmotion during certain bosses to begin with because they usually make me vulnerable more than anything else. But for level design purposes, I definitely think they could make it really cool if they design them with the purpose of making you think outside the box with flowmotion.
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I dunno why I didn't just turn it off. I'm definitely an exploring sort when it comes to games, though I do like to focus on story first then come back immediately. But I impulsively open chests sometimes. Also, I like added incentive.
Something about it just didn't work for me. Not necessarily flowmotion, but something related to it.
Well, like I said, this is why I think they SHOULD have flowmotion required so that way they can better design the areas so that you'd have to creatively use flowmotion. I don't think they should turn down flowmotion at all, I think they need to expand upon it and make it better. Customizable flowmotion move-sets and levels designed as puzzles that involve using your flowmotion creatively could make it a lot of fun and a challenge.
Battles, I think flowmotion is perfect the way it is. I just wanted more customizable move-sets to fight them with, but to be fair, I rarely used flowmotion during certain bosses to begin with because they usually make me vulnerable more than anything else. But for level design purposes, I definitely think they could make it really cool if they design them with the purpose of making you think outside the box with flowmotion.
That is a good point about customizing and creativity there.
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I think a mix of KH2 and KH3D battle systems is the right path to go with KH3. One thing I hope they retain from KH3D is the difficulty, the game was definitely the hardest of the series IMO. If they made it slightly more difficult than that I would be fine. BBS and Re:COM were too easy, the problem in KH games is that they make the defense of the bosses too low, especially in BBS and Re:COM. Plus bosses in BBS should have had higher HP, I know at that time it was customary for number KH titles to set the final bosses HP at 1500 and BBS being KHZero pretty much continues this, but honestly couldn't they had made MX have 1300 HP instead of 900 HP, or Braig in Radiant Garden at least have 750 HP? I want my boss battles in KH3 to take a good amount of time to finish and require you to find the best strategy to beat it. If they can improve on what they did with boss fights in KH3D then i'll be good.
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I'm so excited!... And I just can't hide it!!
Man it sounds like FFXV is almost complete and they're about to do Full KH3 mode. I can't wait!
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Beyond excited for more news of this and its development. There was always something about numbered titles that got me really excited and seeing Nomura talk about having more space to do a lot more things is fantastic. I admit...I missed the FF cameos so much, especially Leon and the gang not because of the particular characters themselves but because they were so involved in the story and interacted with the main cast in a realistic way that didn't seem forced at all. If they bring that charm back, with even more FF cameos, I'll be sooooooo freakin' happy.
I am one of the fans who enjoyed KH3D's gameplay, mostly the AI of the DE and how useful they were in most battles. Where as Donald and Goofy did not make me feel safe whatsoever, the right DEs on your team covered you pretty well and handled business when you had to sneak away for a moment and heal or something.
Also the scale of the worlds in 3D was great, giant open space.........but it wasn't populated space. I know space was limited but I expect NPCs all over the freakin' place in KH3. ALL. OVER. DA. PLACE.
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I think a mix of KH2 and KH3D battle systems is the right path to go with KH3. One thing I hope they retain from KH3D is the difficulty, the game was definitely the hardest of the series IMO. If they made it slightly more difficult than that I would be fine. BBS and Re:COM were too easy, the problem in KH games is that they make the defense of the bosses too low, especially in BBS and Re:COM. Plus bosses in BBS should have had higher HP, I know at that time it was customary for number KH titles to set the final bosses HP at 1500 and BBS being KHZero pretty much continues this, but honestly couldn't they had made MX have 1300 HP instead of 900 HP, or Braig in Radiant Garden at least have 750 HP? I want my boss battles in KH3 to take a good amount of time to finish and require you to find the best strategy to beat it. If they can improve on what they did with boss fights in KH3D then i'll be good.
However, I'd prefer no more than a few bosses take me that much time to beat. When you consider the story, the final bosses are pretty well paced enough. Sure, they should be more difficult, but I like them to be shorter than 1/2 hour each.
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Beyond excited for more news of this and its development. There was always something about numbered titles that got me really excited and seeing Nomura talk about having more space to do a lot more things is fantastic. I admit...I missed the FF cameos so much, especially Leon and the gang not because of the particular characters themselves but because they were so involved in the story and interacted with the main cast in a realistic way that didn't seem forced at all. If they bring that charm back, with even more FF cameos, I'll be sooooooo freakin' happy.
I am one of the fans who enjoyed KH3D's gameplay, mostly the AI of the DE and how useful they were in most battles. Where as Donald and Goofy did not make me feel safe whatsoever, the right DEs on your team covered you pretty well and handled business when you had to sneak away for a moment and heal or something.
Also the scale of the worlds in 3D was great, giant open space.........but it wasn't populated space. I know space was limited but I expect NPCs all over the freakin' place in KH3. ALL. OVER. DA. PLACE.
yes we definitely need NPCS and the return of ff characters for kh3. :) also looking forward to using DDD's gameplay on the PS4 as well
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I'm glad they are going to use both mechanics of KH3D and KH2 for KH3.
Still, I have to admit I prefer the Command Deck System (like the one from BBS and DDD) over the Classic Command System (from KH and KH2).
I don't know why, but in my opinion, it feels way more dynamic to play the game like that!
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I agree on the difficulty. It should be more balanced, like DDD(though not spiked in the very beginning, like DDD).
However, I'd prefer no more than a few bosses take me that much time to beat. When you consider the story, the final bosses are pretty well paced enough. Sure, they should be more difficult, but I like them to be shorter than 1/2 hour each.
Well I was more speaking on the main bosses of each world being more difficult. Like for example in the first to Olympus Coliseum in KH2, Cerberus should have been pretty difficult and the Hydra should have been the hardest boss, but Pete and Demyx could be easy/medium difficulty bosses. Obviously not every boss fight should be very difficult, just the main ones in each world and of course the final bosses.
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Oh sure the main ones in each world should be difficult. For the parade of final bosses, they should be of somewhat varying difficulty. Helps build tension a bit and pacing too.
Like lining up the final bosses for BBS, if you combined the three stories in some form, the first of each set of two should be relatively unchallenging, because between each lots of plot is usually given and together that's somewhat slow paced. The final ones with vanitas, ventus/vanitas, and terranort should've been much harder(and the latter was challenging). The peak of the action.
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I think a mix of KH2 and KH3D battle systems is the right path to go with KH3. One thing I hope they retain from KH3D is the difficulty, the game was definitely the hardest of the series IMO. If they made it slightly more difficult than that I would be fine. BBS and Re:COM were too easy, the problem in KH games is that they make the defense of the bosses too low, especially in BBS and Re:COM. Plus bosses in BBS should have had higher HP, I know at that time it was customary for number KH titles to set the final bosses HP at 1500 and BBS being KHZero pretty much continues this, but honestly couldn't they had made MX have 1300 HP instead of 900 HP, or Braig in Radiant Garden at least have 750 HP? I want my boss battles in KH3 to take a good amount of time to finish and require you to find the best strategy to beat it. If they can improve on what they did with boss fights in KH3D then i'll be good.
I have to disagree with you on the HP side. Because that was the big issue with KH2 was that the enemy HP bars were way too high. And it's not challenging just to increase the enemy's HP bar, it just makes the fight go on longer. And since KH2 was arguably the easiest KH game thus far, it felt more like a chore rather than a challenge.
I do agree that KH3D is definitely the hardest game in the series, but I don't think they really need to make it more challenging just for KH3. You don't want to make things overly difficult and I think KH3D is balanced out fine as it is (despite the difficulty spike in Symphony of Sorcery)
Also the scale of the worlds in 3D was great, giant open space.........but it wasn't populated space. I know space was limited but I expect NPCs all over the freakin' place in KH3. ALL. OVER. DA. PLACE.
Something tells me you're setting your expectations too high :/
The thing is I don't see how you can have NPC's in-game when you have abilities like flowmotion. Sure, that would be cool to fly around Notre Dame with a crowd of people, but can you imagine how glitchy that could be? All the collision detection that would be messed up?
For me, the best solution would be to have NPC-specific areas like they did with KH2. Where certain areas contained NPC's while other areas were just for fighting enemies. And if they just made it so that the cutscenes always had NPC's. I'd be fine with that.
But full crowds of people during gameplay when you're performing flowmotion and Heartless are everywhere...? That's a disaster waiting to happen.
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Something tells me you're setting your expectations too high :/
The thing is I don't see how you can have NPC's in-game when you have abilities like flowmotion. Sure, that would be cool to fly around Notre Dame with a crowd of people, but can you imagine how glitchy that could be? All the collision detection that would be messed up?
For me, the best solution would be to have NPC-specific areas like they did with KH2. Where certain areas contained NPC's while other areas were just for fighting enemies. And if they just made it so that the cutscenes always had NPC's. I'd be fine with that.
But full crowds of people during gameplay when you're performing flowmotion and Heartless are everywhere...? That's a disaster waiting to happen.
I wouldn't say too high, I'm just expecting them to fully utilize what these new consoles have to offer. I doubt there's going to be flowmotion EXACTLY like DDD but I can imagine them leaping into the air and jumping off walls and what not and I don't think it'll be that glitchy. And me saying I would want NPC exclusive areas is sorta redundant to me because I wouldn't ask them to have NPCs appear where enemies do since they've never done that before in the games so when I mean NPCs all over the place, I just mean I want places to be populated similar to how it was in past games just more so now that they have a lot to experiment and work with now. From the sound of Nomura's interview they have much more to work with this time around so I'm keeping my hopes up just a little bit
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I wouldn't say too high, I'm just expecting them to fully utilize what these new consoles have to offer. I doubt there's going to be flowmotion EXACTLY like DDD but I can imagine them leaping into the air and jumping off walls and what not and I don't think it'll be that glitchy. And me saying I would want NPC exclusive areas is sorta redundant to me because I wouldn't ask them to have NPCs appear where enemies do since they've never done that before in the games so when I mean NPCs all over the place, I just mean I want places to be populated similar to how it was in past games just more so now that they have a lot to experiment and work with now. From the sound of Nomura's interview they have much more to work with this time around so I'm keeping my hopes up just a little bit
You sure about that? If anything, it sounds like flowmotion will be exactly how it is from KH3D. Shoot, it would be a major downgrade if they did just make it leaping off the air. I'm pretty darn sure, Flowmotion is either going to be just like how it is from KH3D or it will be expanded upon. Hopefully the latter.
Now, as far as NPC's go, I know the easy answer to say is "because of technical issues" but then you get games like Twilight Princess and FFXII who had completely populated towns.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, but the problem with NPC's isn't as much to do with technology as much as it has to do with the extra time it would take to model new NPC's. Other games like FFXII and Twilight Princess have the luxery of being able to make generic human NPC models that fit in the area because those games only take place in one world. So they could easily just create 4-6 original NPC models and then just swap heads, swap textures, etc. to create the illusion that there are more people.
You can't really do that as much in Kingdom Hearts except for original worlds like Traverse Town, Twilight Town, Hollow Bastion, and Destiny Islands. The reason they were able to do NPC's in those four worlds is because the character designs are exact and the humans look exactly like each other from those respective worlds. So they could get away with putting a retextured Tidus into Traverse Town. But for Disney worlds, you can't really get away with that because each Disney world has their own visual style as to how characters look. Humans look very different depending on the world you are in, so you can't really get away with taking an NPC from Traverse Town and retexturing it for Notre Dame and have it look right. They tried doing this during one of the segments in Agrabah from KH1 and the NPC's looked like crap and did not fit in with the world at all.
Ultimately, this is why I think KH has had the NPC problem as long as it has. I really don't think it has much to do with the technology as much as it has to do with that they would need to spend so much time getting the NPC's right if they were to do them at all. And KH3 already has to remake every single returning asset from the previous KH series, which is why I'm not bringing my hopes up too high in regards to NPC's.
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I'm glad that they are continuing the series and everything but this is like spoilers. Saying that Sora will still remain the main protagonist and the Xehanort saga will come to the end says that they beat Xehanort with ease and nothing won't happen to Sora. I hope there is a plot twist.
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Man it sounds like FFXV is almost complete and they're about to do Full KH3 mode. I can't wait!
Final Fantasy XV and KH3 are being developed by two completely different teams, so no FFXV is not almost complete. PDD1 in Tokyo is handling FFXV (specifically the team who worked in KH1 + KH2), and PDD5 in Osaka is working on KH3 (BBS, KH3D, HD 1.5).
I'm glad that they are continuing the series and everything but this is like spoilers. Saying that Sora will still remain the main protagonist and the Xehanort saga will come to the end says that they beat Xehanort with ease and nothing won't happen to Sora. I hope there is a plot twist.
It really isn't. Kingdom Hearts has and always will be Sora's story. Nomura has constantly reaffirmed this fact since KH1. We all have known KH3 would be the end to the Xehanort Saga for over two years, and and it isn't like it is unexpected to see the end of Xehanort in some shape or form considering he is the big bad of the series.
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that they beat Xehanort with ease and nothing won't happen to Sora.
With EASE?
Yeah, don't think so.
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I would like a gameplay as they had in BBS, i liked how i could lvl up my deck commands and that i could meld them, i also liked the command styles like Wingblade.
And about the NPC's, didn't Nomura said in one of the interviews that they would maybe let the NPC's fight too in battle's. So i don't think it would be too crowded otherwise it would be too easy.
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And about the NPC's, didn't Nomura said in one of the interviews that they would maybe let the NPC's fight too in battle's. So i don't think it would be too crowded otherwise it would be too easy.
Yes he did. I'd expect it to be like if you were in a castle, there would be guards around and if you enter a battle against Heartless those guards would potentially help out. Or if there was a NPC supporting cast, they could also jump into the fray without having to actually be a part of your party, similar to how Leon, Tifa, Yuffie, and Cloud were in KH2 during the 1000 Heartless invasion (but you know, rather than it being scripted into a specific event, it'd be a natural part of their AI)
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Yes he did. I'd expect it to be like if you were in a castle, there would be guards around and if you enter a battle against Heartless those guards would potentially help out. Or if there was a NPC supporting cast, they could also jump into the fray without having to actually be a part of your party, similar to how Leon, Tifa, Yuffie, and Cloud were in KH2 during the 1000 Heartless invasion (but you know, rather than it being scripted into a specific event, it'd be a natural part of their AI)
Wow, that would be great, having NPCs fight alongside with you. I would love to see that in kh3
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Wow, that would be great, having NPCs fight alongside with you. I would love to see that in kh3
It would definitely be new and refreshing for this series.
On a different topic concerning AI, did anyone else also consider the possibility that the swarm of Shadow Heartless we saw in the trailer were actually one of the lesser enemies we'll face in the game---Say, with each hit and the more health we deplete, the more shadows are lost from the group . I mean, a single Shadow or even a group of 5/6 against a (soon-to-be?) Keyblade Master Sora who can apparently transform his Keyblade (According to Nomura) seems underwhelming. Even if he's starting out at level 1 again.
The PS4 and XBOX One are the next generation, I say Nomura and them go crazy. KHIII I suspect will be even bigger than KHII which I thought was pretty big itself.
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I thought that would be more like an event battle. The way the camera focuses on them at first is not dissimilar to the start of an event of some sort.
Aside from the start we're used to.
For NPCs, some of the Disney worlds my get away with having them if they treat NPCs overall like Level 5 did for Ni No Kuni. In that game, the NPCs were designed for specific areas, many were repeated models, but only in those areas.
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I would like a gameplay as they had in BBS, i liked how i could lvl up my deck commands and that i could meld them, i also liked the command styles like Wingblade.
And about the NPC's, didn't Nomura said in one of the interviews that they would maybe let the NPC's fight too in battle's. So i don't think it would be too crowded otherwise it would be too easy.
Agreed to the Birth by Sleep stuff.
I'm pretty sure Nomura was just talking about having world allies occasionally join in you for battles. Like in KH2, when you had to fight the Hydra and you had Megera, Phil, and Pegasas helping in the fight. I'm pretty sure that's what he was talking about, not random NPC's.
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For NPCs, some of the Disney worlds my get away with having them if they treat NPCs overall like Level 5 did for Ni No Kuni. In that game, the NPVs were designed for specific areas, many were repeated models, but only in those areas.
I think I'd be fine with that. A great example would be Atlantica residents. I'd love to see merpeople swimming around the palace, and they could repeat a few of the male and female models for merpeople, but I don't expect to see them in any other world. I mean, as long as it isn't 3 of the same NPC model standing next to each other to make it blatantly obvious, I think it should be fine.
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I'm pretty sure Nomura was just talking about having world allies occasionally join in you for battles. Like in KH2, when you had to fight the Hydra and you had Megera, Phil, and Pegasas helping in the fight. I'm pretty sure that's what he was talking about, not random NPC's.
We don't really know what Nomura is talking about. He has some pretty grand ideas for KH3 with nothing to actually show yet, so trying to dispel the idea of random NPCs is not something that should be done until we have a more clear idea of what KH3 really will be.
Same goes for your ideas of not having many world NPCs in areas. We just don't know, so you can't say it probably won't happen when there has been nothing to say that at all.
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For NPCs, some of the Disney worlds my get away with having them if they treat NPCs overall like Level 5 did for Ni No Kuni. In that game, the NPVs were designed for specific areas, many were repeated models, but only in those areas.
That's somewhat what I was saying... The difference though is that Ni No Kuni (apart from cutscenes) is all under the same artstyle. Kingdom Hearts has to deal with numerous Disney worlds, each with their own unique artstyle. And it is not easy to re-create something and make it look like it fits in with a very specific artstyle. Especially once you're so used to creating something in a certain artstyle for so long.
And it has been noted how for each Disney world, the staff does their best to create the characters and the scenery and make them look exactly like the original movie. And that takes a lot of time and a lot of trial and error, it really does. I'm sure some people are going to go, "No, it's not hard at all," but I'm sorry, YES it is. And the only thing more difficult than recreating something and make it look exactly like the original, is making something brand new like a new character NPC and making it look like it fits perfectly inside that world.
I can guarantee you that most video games, there are only 4-6 actual built-from-scratch NPC models, if that. But they just spread them across an entire game world. You can't do that in KH without the artstyles clashing or seeming out of place. And even creating 2-4 built-from-scratch NPC's and just head-swapping, texture-recoloring said 2-4 NPC's is only enough to populate one world with looking right. Imagine multiplying that by seven or eight (depending on the number of worlds.) That is how much more work they'd have to do in creating NPC models than most video game companies have to.
I can tell you that in my 3D animations when I have to create a scene with a few people, I end up doing lots of head-swapping, texture-recoloring. At the most, I have probably made 3 NPC models completely from scratch. Now I can get away with that because my videos are all under the same artstyle. But in a series like Kingdom Hearts where you have to account for multiple different areas with completely different artstyles, you can't get away with that without it looking out of place.
...Wow, I just went on a long time. Anyway, overall, would I look for there to be more NPC's? Yes, but only when they're absolutely needed for story purposes (cough)like a festival?(cough) I think some people here are really setting themselves up for disappointment by thinking that KH3 is suddenly going to be flooded with NPC's just because the PS4 and XBONE have the power. I really don't think it has that much to do with power, guys. It's whether or not they are willing to take the time and effort to create more character models that perfectly match each individual world's artstyles. And considering that they're probably going to try and hurry up development on KH3 due to it's high demand, I REALLY don't think we're going to see a lot of that.
We don't really know what Nomura is talking about. He has some pretty grand ideas for KH3 with nothing to actually show yet, so trying to dispel the idea of random NPCs is not something that should be done until we have a more clear idea of what KH3 really will be.
Same goes for your ideas of not having many world NPCs in areas. We just don't know, so you can't say it probably won't happen when there has been nothing to say that at all.
And the same goes for YOU guys expecting all this to happen. There is not enough information to support what you guys think, either. You're saying what you think, and I'm saying what I think. Don't go around pointing fingers just because I think of something differently than you. I'm simply saying "don't set yourself up for disappointment." The way that I live life is to go in with the fewer expectations as possible. Take the information for what it is and try not to let your imagination run wild. Otherwise, you inevitably set yourself up for disappointment. I've seen it happen so many times before and I can already predict that KH3 is going to end up disappointing quite a few people the same way KH2 did.
Again, you guys are free to say what you think or expect is going to happen in regards to KH3, and I'm free to say what I think or expect.
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That's somewhat what I was saying... The difference though is that Ni No Kuni (apart from cutscenes) is all under the same artstyle. Kingdom Hearts has to deal with numerous Disney worlds, each with their own unique artstyle. And it is not easy to re-create something and make it look like it fits in with a very specific artstyle. Especially once you're so used to creating something in a certain artstyle for so long.
And it has been noted how for each Disney world, the staff does their best to create the characters and the scenery and make them look exactly like the original movie. And that takes a lot of time and a lot of trial and error, it really does. I'm sure some people are going to go, "No, it's not hard at all," but I'm sorry, YES it is. And the only thing more difficult than recreating something and make it look exactly like the original, is making something brand new like a new character NPC and making it look like it fits perfectly inside that world.
Hence, the Kingdom Shader. Now any NPC can be made to look like it fits into a certain world.
I can tell you that in my 3D animations when I have to create a scene with a few people, I end up doing lots of head-swapping, texture-recoloring. At the most, I have probably made 3 NPC models completely from scratch. Now I can get away with that because my videos are all under the same artstyle. But in a series like Kingdom Hearts where you have to account for multiple different areas with completely different artstyles, you can't get away with that without it looking out of place. |
No offense to you, but the people working on this would have much more experience, and there is more than one person working on it. If Nomura wants a bigger game, then everyone needs to work to make this bigger, worlds, plot, NPC's etc.
| I'm simply saying "don't set yourself up for disappointment." The way that I live life is to go in with the fewer expectations as possible. Take the information for what it is and try not to let your imagination run wild. Otherwise, you inevitably set yourself up for disappointment. I've seen it happen so many times before and I can already predict that KH3 is going to end up disappointing quite a few people the same way KH2 did. Again, you guys are free to say what you think or expect is going to happen in regards to KH3, and I'm free to say what I think or expect. |
Yeah, but you don't have to always put people down when they express what they like.
One of the best parts of this community is when people let their imaginations run wild. They come up with over-the-top theories, they wonder if they're going to do this, or if that will be in the game.
People can set themselves up for disappointment, it's their problem. But just chill when they do that. Your lifestyle is to have lower expectations. Other peoples is to get excited over the smallest things. It's what makes each person different.
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Hence, the Kingdom Shader. Now any NPC can be made to look like it fits into a certain world.
(facepalm) No, no, no, no, no, it's not that simple >_>
This isn't even about the colors or the textures, it's the fact that character are PHYSICALLY designed differently.
The way the faces are formed, the body is formed. It's not the way they are shaded, I'm talking about the models themselves. Otherwise, they could have easily just do a re-texture and it be fine. If I told you to take a human model from Mass Effect and apply the Kingdom Shader to it, that's not going to make it look any closer to a Disney movie. It'll look a little more like a cartoon yes, but the model itself will still look overly realistic or just no the right form for the certain artstyle. Artstyle is more than just the color and shading. It is also how the characters are formed, how they're drawn, how they're modeled, etc.
No offense to you, but the people working on this would have much more experience, and there is more than one person working on it. If Nomura wants a bigger game, then everyone needs to work to make this bigger, worlds, plot, NPC's etc.
Then explain to me why this hasn't been done yet, hmm? I'm the only one here trying to find an explanation other than the obvious "technology setback" scapegoat which has honestly been severely overused and has been proven to be bullcrap in several games that used that excuse thanks to modders. The fact of the matter is that their teams' priority is getting the main Disney characters looking as close as they can to the original, while NPC's are on the back of their mind. I'm not saying they can't do it. I never once said that. I'm just saying it takes a lot more time and effort, and obviously it's time and effort that they never bothered to put in for the past few games.
Yeah, but you don't have to always put people down when they express what they like.
One of the best parts of this community is when people let their imaginations run wild. They come up with over-the-top theories, they wonder if they're going to do this, or if that will be in the game.
People can set themselves up for disappointment, it's their problem. But just chill when they do that. Your lifestyle is to have lower expectations. Other peoples is to get excited over the smallest things. It's what makes each person different.
I don't put people down. They can expect or wish what they want. I'm simply trying to be realistic and saying what I think would happen. And yes, other people are different. But I still have the right to say if I think things in the game are going to work out differently, okay? I have the right to say "Well, I think this is going to happen instead." And if I come up with something that's going to may be in the game or happen, people have the right to tell ME "Well, I think this is going to happen instead." This is a forum. And sometimes people are going to think that what other people are sure is what's going to happen is not going to happen. And we have the right to express that doubt. It's not bringing down other people. It's expressing our own bloody opinion.
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> It's my opinion.
> And this is my opinion.
> That's cool but I'll tell you why you are wrong before you disappoint yourself when I'm proven correct.
> It's just my opinion. This is why I believe it and I will continue to do so until I change my mind.
> WELL IT'S JUST MY OPINION
I'm not going to name names but that is literally all I am reading here. Everybody take a step back and BREATHE!!!
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That's somewhat what I was saying... The difference though is that Ni No Kuni (apart from cutscenes) is all under the same artstyle. Kingdom Hearts has to deal with numerous Disney worlds, each with their own unique artstyle. And it is not easy to re-create something and make it look like it fits in with a very specific artstyle. Especially once you're so used to creating something in a certain artstyle for so long.
And it has been noted how for each Disney world, the staff does their best to create the characters and the scenery and make them look exactly like the original movie. And that takes a lot of time and a lot of trial and error, it really does. I'm sure some people are going to go, "No, it's not hard at all," but I'm sorry, YES it is. And the only thing more difficult than recreating something and make it look exactly like the original, is making something brand new like a new character NPC and making it look like it fits perfectly inside that world.
I can guarantee you that most video games, there are only 4-6 actual built-from-scratch NPC models, if that. But they just spread them across an entire game world. You can't do that in KH without the artstyles clashing or seeming out of place. And even creating 2-4 built-from-scratch NPC's and just head-swapping, texture-recoloring said 2-4 NPC's is only enough to populate one world with looking right. Imagine multiplying that by seven or eight (depending on the number of worlds.) That is how much more work they'd have to do in creating NPC models than most video game companies have to.
I can tell you that in my 3D animations when I have to create a scene with a few people, I end up doing lots of head-swapping, texture-recoloring. At the most, I have probably made 3 NPC models completely from scratch. Now I can get away with that because my videos are all under the same artstyle. But in a series like Kingdom Hearts where you have to account for multiple different areas with completely different artstyles, you can't get away with that without it looking out of place.
...Wow, I just went on a long time. Anyway, overall, would I look for there to be more NPC's? Yes, but only when they're absolutely needed for story purposes (cough)like a festival?(cough) I think some people here are really setting themselves up for disappointment by thinking that KH3 is suddenly going to be flooded with NPC's just because the PS4 and XBONE have the power. I really don't think it has that much to do with power, guys. It's whether or not they are willing to take the time and effort to create more character models that perfectly match each individual world's artstyles. And considering that they're probably going to try and hurry up development on KH3 due to it's high demand, I REALLY don't think we're going to see a lot of that.
Oh, I'm sure it is very difficult and I won't be disappointed if we have no more than KH2 had. And adapting 2D characters into 3D alone is difficult too. They've done an almost seamless job with that in the games so far. And they are still testing the Kingdom Shader on our main characters, so that's bound to be trial and error with BGCs, and that's assuming they could even get away with having a face in more than one place(world).
And then if they were to use the actual disney movies and designs to get some NPCs out of, they'd still be modeling characters in three years.
In the end, they should try it if-and only if-they can. I'm fine if they don't do it or dont do much with it.
And the likelihood is very low. Even lower since they're bringing a somewhat inexperienced team to HD game development, and are experimenting with new hardware and especially new software. When they are more comfortable with the techniques, or if/when the techniques become more efficient, they can focus more on this kind of thing.
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> That's cool but I'll tell you why you are wrong before you disappoint yourself when I'm proven correct.
That is not at all what I was saying >_>
I never said anyone was wrong. I was just saying that I find it highly doubtful. There IS a difference. I NEVER said, "you are wrong and I am right." And I'm really sick of people twisting my words and making them mean something that I did not say.
And hey, if people's theories and predictions are right and we get regular old guards or citizens fighting by us, then great! Good for them, that's awesome! I'm not saying it is absolutely impossible and cannot happen. I am simply saying that I don't think that's what's going to happen. Did you get that? "I DON'T THINK," "I THINK IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY," words and statements that do NOT mean "I'm right and you're wrong."
And for the record, I am not saying that any of the suggestions or ideas or theories you guys said are bad ideas. Many of them are very interesting. I'm just trying to be realistic here. And hey, I like to think up of some crazy stuff as well. I think it'd be really cool to play as party members. But I at least acknowledge the probability that it may not happen. Does that mean it's a dumb idea? No, it doesn't. I think the problem is that you guys (and technically, the people getting offended by me aren't even the ones I was necessarily talking to) are taking this way too personal. Just because I may think it's not likely to appear in the game does not mean I am saying your idea is dumb or that it is impossible. I'm just saying what I think.
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Gotta agree with Skyfoxx, man. There seems to be a genuine belief that the "Kingdom Shader" is just this magical filter that makes everything look like the Disney movie it's representing, but it's really just shading, lighting, and color. It raises the artistic ceiling, visually and technically. But model creation is going to be just as much (if not a lot more) of a process, to make these models on par with PS4/Xbone expectations and visual style. Making basic NPC's for each world would definitely be a challenge, but with some color and body part alternatives (circa the 3D background characters in Hunchback of Notre Dame) Making these world specific NPC's is an achievable goal, and one with a lot of good payoff, if I do say so myself.
On the gameplay spectrum of things, give me a world with the weight and exploration of KHI, (more vertical exploration!) and KH3D gameplay with KHI and BBS elements and flowmotion-lite. I know KHIII probably won't be as good to me as KHI, but it won't be as bad as KHII (which I can find some enjoyment with anyway), and I can take comfort in that. I just hope the game doesn't lose itself to the AAA TOTALLY RADICAL ACTION PACKED OVER 100 WAYS TO WATCH EACH ENEMY DIE QUICK TIME EVENT craze that a lot of games, including KHII have fallen into.
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Uhm........................... I just want to see Not-Tidus again. There I said it.
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Uhm........................... I just want to see Not-Tidus again. There I said it.
And Not-Wakka from Agrabah.
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Let us not forget Arabian Not-Tidus.
Oh, and Not-The-Shopkeeper from Agrabah.
Touching stories to be told
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Uhm........................... I just want to see Not-Tidus again. There I said it.
Well, Not-Tidus worked for Traverse Town because that world and Destiny Islands more or less had the same sort of artstyle because they both were mainly inhabited by original and Final Fantasy characters. One was just more tropical than the other.
And Not-Wakka from Agrabah.
THAT, on the other hand DIDN'T work.
[SPOILER=Agrabah NPC's]
[/SPOILER]I'm sorry, but these NPCs (except for the girl in the middle, she looks fine) are super ugly and their bright white eyes just make them the creepiest things ever! 0_0
To be totally honest, when I first saw these NPC's my first time playing, it made me the thing the place was a ghost town. I'm serious. To me, an empty place with only the main characters in it is less creepy than a place with a couple of NPCs that only appear once and have the most lifeless eyes ever.
I mean, I GUESS they could do this again... but I'm just of the opinion that if they are going to bother to make several NPC's, that they should do them right and make them actually fit in with the world. (and get someone else to texture those eyes... jeesh o_o) Considering how much work they put in to make the characters and scenery look just like the movie, it would just be more of a distraction than anything to see the NPC's that are just copied from previous worlds and given a crappy paint-job and that's it.
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so like
this is really obvious
but this thread has turned into the "hopes for kh3" thread
lets not shit on each other kthx
and i've already said it earlier
if you don't like or disagree with what other people believe in that's cool
but show them enough respect to not constantly force your opinion down their throats and then retaliate when they refuse to swallow
this has been a message from darth siggius
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Honestly, when I first p,ayed, I dodn't really notice how creepy they were. And in fact, it wasn't until people started making a big deal out of it that their eyes really looked that white to me. It looks photoshopped or done in Microsoft Paint now
That's the last I will say here that's not Nomura related.
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I didn't actually want Not-Wakka back, that was awful and creepy. I was just mentioning him because somebody posted about Not-Tidus.
-back to topic-
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I think what most people are forgetting...is that KH3 will be on consoles this time around. Imo, I think it's safe to say we can raise our expectations. From what I know, all the portable games could've easily been made for the Ps2 or possibly Ps3, with possible exceptions of KH3Ds reality shift features. NPCS being left out of portable games are reasonably acceptable given the amount of tech space/important they needed to be in a given circumstance. Look at FF13-2, there were many instances where npcs were running around when enemies appeared, some even attacked, but for obvious reasons it didn't contribute to anything but visual likings.
Look at the 1000 Heartless Battle. There were behemoths there in the cutscene, but were absent during the actual battle. I do believe that had to do with technical limitations or as Sky noted, priority issues. The tech definitely plays a part in what we can have in the game, it's just up to Nomura to prioritize it, and many fans have asked for it so we'll see if he's listening. One of the many points of the next gen tech demos were to show off how much can go on on one screen.
So yeah, as fans, we are allowed to have high expectations. The last couple of handheld KH games were only limited by technology imo. Now if we saw a KH game on the Vita, I don't think npcs would've been a technical problem. Look at Gravity Rush.
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HD console doesn't automatically mean NPCs.they are doing other stuff to take advantage of PS4
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NPC's could have been in DDD, but that game wasn't optimized so well anyway.
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HD console doesn't automatically mean NPCs.they are doing other stuff to take advantage of PS4
No, but the capabilities are definitely there. it's not a debate on if they can, it's a debate on if they will. The hell are we wasting our time saving the world's when there agree only 12 people on each of them ?
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No, but the capabilities are definitely there. it's not a debate on if they can, it's a debate on if they will. The hell are we wasting our time saving the world's when there agree only 12 people on each of them ?
I would like that too. I'm just saying if it barely has more than KH2, I'd be fine with it.
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I would like that too. I'm just saying if it barely has more than KH2, I'd be fine with it.
Well yeah, kh2 put them in relevant places, so I wouldn't mind.
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What do I have to do to see that girl??? I need to meet her in game if only just once. Of all the times I've plaid through the game I have never once seen her and it bothers me so much
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I think she's down in that side area where you meet Jasmine for the first time.
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Dude I've never seen those guys, that's amazing. Never thought there was any merit in returning to the worlds after the keyhole was sealed
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They're only available to see when there's no Heartless at all in the world.
That is, after you escape the collapsing Cave of Wonder and before you leave the world.
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Oh dang, one time thing? Would have been cool if you could have received something then, as some kind of secret item
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The secret item is KNOWING THE TRUTH.
I've never seen that girl either. She's pretty much Jasmine and that lady by the cafe's in Traverse Towns baby. #science
Anyways, shocked that this has turned into a convo about NPCs. lulz
I get super amped up by these little nuggets they bait my emotions with! KHIII~~~
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I think she's down in that side area where you meet Jasmine for the first time.
They're only available to see when there's no Heartless at all in the world.
That is, after you escape the collapsing Cave of Wonder and before you leave the world.
Thanks, Maybe I can finally see her soon when 1.5 comes out
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I'm kinda worried about the way the combat system will turn out in KH3. I loved the combat system in Kingdom Hearts 2 like the reaction commands, drive forms, ect. I hope that the game isn't to similar to how it was in the handhelds which I didn't hate but at the same time didn't love. I loved all the boss reaction commands especially the ones you use on Xemnas. I'm hoping that we have some over-the-top reaction commands.
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I'm kinda worried about the way the combat system will turn out in KH3. I loved the combat system in Kingdom Hearts 2 like the reaction commands, drive forms, ect. I hope that the game isn't to similar to how it was in the handhelds which I didn't hate but at the same time didn't love. I loved all the boss reaction commands especially the ones you use on Xemnas. I'm hoping that we have some over-the-top reaction commands.
I think it's a very difficult thing for the gameplay in KH3. If you read the forums, the KH fanbase HATES reaction commands, myself included. Where's the difficulty in a game if you just press triangle and do 1/5 of the boss' life?
Many of us, ironically, are so pro-handheld combat that's it's kind of refreshing to hear your input honestly since I mean...I have to admit I'm also pro-command deck like in BbS, Coded, DDD, etc.
I think a great way to mix both (and I've said this before) is keep the command deck system, or heck, even bring back the style from KH1 and KH2, but only have reaction commands be the finisher to the boss, like the last part of the Xemnas' final battle. That way they could keep really flashy, awesome cinematics, but still make them rewarding since we'd have to beat the whole boss on our own, without their help, to get there.
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