All these jobs just have my brain flowing with ideas for what they're doing with KH3. It seems like they just need a few extra hands to help them out with everything, but what they're asking for is just delicious.

In charge of construction duties for a shader on the game engine for nature representations (water, rain, snow etc), and special effects (magic etc) etc, during online games.

No idea what the online games part refers to, but I do love rain in games. The rain in The World That Never Was was too brief for my liking so I'm glad they might be doing much more with it. The snow has me a bit worried, for obvious reasons, but my friend assures me there's plenty of other Disney films out there with snow.

texture creation involved in polishing up new and old models/texture creation.

I hope polishing up old models refers to taking the old models from previous games (such as Shadows and Large Bodies) and re-creating them in Unreal Engine 4. I'd be so disappointed if they just took them from KH2, put a coat of current gen gloss on it, and called it a day. I want detail damn it :(

Creating concept plans for the natural terrain/towns etc of the various worlds of Kingdom Hearts, and designing plans for the little objects they are made of (trees, signs, houses etc).

Towns and houses has got me really excited. I know previous games have featured plenty of this (Traverse Town, Twilight Town, Hollow Bastion, Land of Dragons, Christmas Town), but I just can't stop thinking of brand new Disney worlds such as Robin Hood for some reason.

Being in charge of the maintenance and development of the gameplay programs for Kingdom Hearts III. Job Specifics: governing the actions of player, enemy and NPC characters.

Nomura said before that NPC characters would join in the fight so I'm reaaaallly hoping that this is what this job is referring to. I'm so excited to see how that all plays out.

@Chaser, I'm with you man, but I remember an interview where Nomura said that Disney is really pushing certain films.


Given how much people just seem to love that movie all around the world, the comments from Square Enix's director, and the push from Disney, I hate to say it...but I feel "THAT" movie, is all but confirmed unfortunately...


However, I also really like rain in games. I remember seeing a Walking Dead playthrough, and the night time rain scene with random bouts of thunder and lightning really set the mood. If I'm not mistaken, it also rained in the Fantasia like world in DDD for a time. So I hope to fight some very epic battles in harsh and inclimate weather.


As far as everything else goes, it's what I'd expect. Though...I'm really hoping it's just to make progress move along at a faster rate instead of being a reflection of where they are from a development standpoint. Osaka team didn't honestly seem that big, and AAA titles usually have big teams.

I`m really looking forward for some weather effects. Do you guys think one type of weather will be one one world(example there is always night on Traverse Town or rainy all the time in some other place) or could they even make some sort of cycle? Sometimes it is sunny, but when time progress it could start to rain?

I`m little concerned about the multiplayer thing, since I am not really fond of it(I dont want any multiplayer elements in KH) All though it can mean a variety of things.

I thought he was talking about Nightmare before christmas again lol (and at first only Mulan came to mind), yeah, I do hope they don't include Frozen but I've started to like it slightly more after seeing the symbolism (I'm really in to that kind of stuff).
If they include it they will have to make up for it by including another great cgi film from PIXAR like Toy Story.
They can't let Frozen be the first cgi animated film they use, I got no idea what people see in it.
As long as it's not marvel I can forgive them though, well at least wait until after KH III and PotC 3 to include Star Wars (even if I don't want that either).

I really hope we get some great mini games this time, I've always been one of the few who like/appreciate most of them but they could still be much better a lot of the time. Here's hoping for Winnie the Pooh again but only for one last game, it feels like it could be a big trademark for this trilogy and would obviously fit very well with Maleficents story and all that.



It would be cool to see TT in daylight, I'd like that at least for the original worlds if nothing else.
As for multiplayer that could be an Arena thing and personally I would really love that, I hope they still keep the Hercules arena though and I wouldn't mind seeing some other players walking around in the coliseum area.

Personally, I'm growing a little short with people complaining about the prospect of "that" movie being featured in the game. I'm no big fan either, but everyone is acting as though playing the game will be such a burden if they have to endure a beautiful white world filled with snow. I think people need to stop thinking about how much they disliked the movie, and start thinking about how fun it will be to visit completely new and hopefully beautifully rendered areas with Sora. And if you still don't enjoy the world, so what? There will still be several others, along with the fantastic story Kingdom Hearts III is bound to offer.

It's certainly in the game for sure, but for me it's not a matter of disliking the movie (although I do not like a lot of it). For me, it's the over exposure it's gotten. From Let It Go being played in shopping malls (and various covers of it, even Disney let The Mindy Project and Glee have it), to Once Upon a Time taking Frozen on as a sequel story to the film. It's just been a LOT of Frozen constantly.

Tangled was popular, but it never lasted this long. Neither did The Princess and the Frog and that was one movie I love dearly.

Besides, if it dies for a couple of years before it's featured it will be so much nicer to see it again and you'll have given it time to become an actual classic (even if I don't like it myself that much)

I....I just really don't want Sora to sing again lol. Certainly a fan of Mr. Osment's work, but I don't eeeever need to hear him sing again after the incident that happened in KH2 Atlantica, which we fans have promised never to talk about again....lol

Also, there have been worlds based on Disney movies that I didn't care too much for, but were great. Haven't really seen it, but I didn't really care for TRON too much, but I really like that place in KH2 and even in DDD. Didn't really like The Nightmare Before Christmas all that much either apart from the infamous music, but I love that world in the KH series. I do want to fight fierce battles in harsh blizzards, I just don't want to fight alongside Elsa and Co. or hear any of those songs, which is almost bound to happen, as the movie is a musical.


As long as Donald and Goofy aren't laughing it up with Spiderman and Captain America, I am perfectly fine with whatever worlds they pick. It'd be selfish to only want the worlds based on movies you like. I may dislike it, but the world clearly loves that movie. For that reason alone, I do think it should be considered for a game like KH3. It will surely make a lot of fans happy. And it makes me genuinely happy to see young fans gravitate towards things I grew up with.

I want movies like Treasure Planet and Atlantis the Lost Empire to make the cut: Two movies I feel are extraordinarily underrated, but a lot of young fans don't even know what these movies are, as they're not as popular as other older animated Disney Films. Movies like Frozen and newer Pixar movies just may be wiser picks from a business standpoint, and I certainly won't fault them for that.

My reply to anyone worried about hearing Frozen music in the world because it is a musical WOULD have been that most of the films who's worlds were featured were musicals. That would have been my response until Mr. Yasue had to go and say he wanted to include musical elements, and I must agree with everyone there that I think that is a horrible idea.

I also think that Treasure Planet and Atlantis would make great worlds! They would just be fantastic places to explore and I feel there is much that can be done with them. I'm not the hugest fan of those movies, but when I think about the worlds I want in a Kingdom Hearts game, I don't think about what my favorite films are. I think about unique worlds that would be interesting to play through. This is the only reason I'm not in the band wagon for a Robin Hood world. Don't get me wrong, I would be super excited to hear of it's inclusion, but I just don't think there is anything wildly interesting about it's environment. Whereas there are many Disney/Pixar films that they could have a blast with.

I will be quick and short about this certain movie that we are talking about : I`m pretty sure it will be in it, and I don`t really mind(all though I did not really like it). The thing that kind kind worries me is that KH3 will be came the game where people say: Oh, it`s that game were Frozen is. I know this sounds little silly, but I`am afraid that Frozen steals KHIII spotlight.

Does this make any sense?

Amen to this.

I've enjoyed every KH game to date by keeping an open mind, and KH3 won't be an exception. I mean, it's KH! It can't be that bad.
Even KH2's Atlantica (that everyone and their mothers seem to hate) wasn't that bad, at least gameplay-wise. I also think Osment is a good singer (he's better than me at the very least).

What I want to say is: going into the game with a "Im gonna hate this" mindset isn't how you should play KH ...

Edit: forgot to stay on topic.
Thank you Chaser for finding this, it's exiting getting little clues at how the game will be. However I'm also worried, I hope this means they want to speed up the production, and not that they're underhanded.
But at least this is proof KH3 is actually in production, it seemed like a dream up until now.

Frozen's definitely in it and I can imagine this jolly "Do you want to build a snowman?" piece by Shimomura being played while wandering around. A full snowy world, unlike NbC and Land of Dragons, could be fun. Storywise? I have my doubts.

Just don't let it be a musical...the risk is too high.


Online features? Don't care.


As for the news, I'm not sure whether to take this as the game being in really early development or if they're trying to speed things. Not much to say.

Fighting the abominable marshmallow could be a lot of fun though.

I really didn't mean to turn this into a Frozen discussion, I was merely trying to say there are other Disney/Pixar films out there, such as 101 Dalmatians, Monsters Inc and Bambi that also have snow. I did a very bad job of saying it, I know.

They don't say how many people they need for each position, but it just sounds like they need a few extra hands in each department to speed things along. Tai Yasue said at the end of December that the general structure of the teams has been decided, and development was moving ahead so I'd say this is a good thing.

It should be noted that staff are hired throughout an entire dev cycle, even up until the release and in huge numbers sometimes. It isn't indicative of where the game is development wise. Osaka in general has a small team and would certainly need more hands in order to speed up development/keep up with their schedule/benchmarks.

I personally would like to see The Jungle Book or A Bugs Life. I'm excited not matter what. Brave or The Incredibles would be cool too.

Osaka in general has a small team and would certainly need more hands in order to speed up development/keep up with their schedule-benchmarks.

Hmm. So we all can agree that KHIII is going to be the biggest KH game in the series till now? I wonder how massive and complex the worlds will be. I remember Nomura stating in an interview how Sora`s jumping ability would be upgraded, so that he could perform huge leaps. That opens up a really good opportunities for exploration, and I think DDD showed us that that aspect of the series is making a return.

It's a given that since there's a massive jump in hardware capabilities that Kingdom Hearts 3 will have a lot in it, and it will be impressive looking.

But in general a small team hiring extra people doesn't automatically mean a bigger game. It just means they're getting people in to help speed the development a long. More people sharing the workload means things get done just a little bit quicker.

The Osaka team worked on the HD remix's and if I'm remembering correctly Birth by sleep and I don't remember if they did DDD. I can't wait to see how flowmotion will be implemented in these worlds.

yep

and if I'm remembering correctly Birth by sleep

They did.

and I don't remember if they did DDD. I can't wait to see how flowmotion will be implemented in these worlds.

Yep. The Osaka team's been carrying the weight of the franchise since Final Mix + came out and they made Re:CoM. And personally, I think the games they've worked on have had a lot of polish and have been the most fun in the series. Well, except Re:CoM but it was more fun than its gameboy predecessor.

I also didn't intend to shift the topic, and apologize as it wasn't my intent at all. Like it or not, it will unquestionably look beautiful in Unreal Engine 4.


Speaking of weather, I want weather effects as well. In XV, when it's stopped raining, puddles stick around for a time and some settlements appear damp. Naturally, their clothes and hair also get wet. I'd like to see some of this in KH3 as well (I think someone mentioned that they saw Sora's hair moving with the wind at the special launch event viewing). They mentioned crumbling rocks when scaling things like mountains awhile back, so I hope this is a noticeable inclusion this go round.

If NPC's do play a bigger role, I hope their effects stay true to their game. For instance, If Neku makes it, instead of using the KH thunder attack or fire attack, I want it to be the stylized one from his game, TWEWY. The same goes for other Square and Disney properties.

I do have a question though (too lazy to dig it up lol). When it says NPC's will join the fight, are they referring to the character that joins your party for that world? Or do they mean character that are on the sidelines that still help out in battle, like Megara and Phil in Olympus Coliseum, or Jasmine in Agrabah?

Depends on how you interpret Nomura's words;

—Please tell us how the action in KHIII will have evolved. Nomura: Right now there’s a demo version that works on our existing equipment… and it’s an absolute storm (laughs). It goes even beyond ‘bold action’. In KHIII you will have a three person party, but depending on the world NPCs will also join in fighting, basically, we’re developing some very flashy action. You’ll be flying through the sky unfolding into air battles without landing.

But in general a small team hiring extra people doesn't automatically mean a bigger game. It just means they're getting people in to help speed the development a long. More people sharing the workload means things get done just a little bit quicker.

Ah okay. I somehow thought that more people automatically equals as bigger game(guess I should have read Master Spockanorts post little better).
Do any of you have difficulties imagining how KHIII will look and work? I know we have seen some small glimpses of it, but we have been so long "stuck" in the PS2 era(loading screens when you move to next are, graphics etc...), that I can`t even began to think how it might look.

The Osaka team worked on the HD remix's and if I'm remembering correctly Birth by sleep and I don't remember if they did DDD. I can't wait to see how flowmotion will be implemented in these worlds.

Yes. They also made DDD. Yasue being co-director etc.. About Flowmotion. I really like it, but I think would like it even more if they modified it a little bit. All though it was fun, the speed was little too fast. The flying felt little schizophrenic at times, so maybe instead of flying, it would be something like parkouring, or an overall improvement to Sora`s(or any other characters) mobility and movement.

Yeah it's not always the case.

Take these images for example:




Doesn't look like that big of a team but these people spent 5 years making The Order 1886.

Yeah the flowmotion was a bit odd at times but overall I love it. I want to see something like in the announcement trailer where Sora jumps on the wall and rides the Heartless. I didn't know Osaka did Final Mix+. Who did the first KH?

Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 were made by the team that is now working on Final Fantasy XV. Since they're busy with that game, Osaka has taken on the responsibility of Kingdom Hearts 3, and it's well deserved I reckon. They've pretty much established themselves as the main Kingdom Hearts team now.

I didn't know that. I remember when Birth By Sleep was released I didn't know who the team was, and I had thought they were an outsourced team or something, but when I played it I was amazed. They've come far, and you're right its all deserved. With them at the helm of KH III I'm sure we will all be happy with the result.

Hmm.. Times like this I wish I picked programming over networking :D

In charge of construction duties for a shader on the game engine for nature representations (water, rain, snow etc),

Screw rain and snow, I'm more excited about the water! Splashing around, swimming, staring at pretty waterfalls, drowning Donald, fighting the Kraken, riding Splash Mountain, Demyx coming back with a vengeance, etc. Just thinking about how the water will look in this game is getting me pumped!

and special effects (magic etc) etc, during online games.

Mirage Arena confirmed???

Demyx coming back with a vengeance

Or that be Myde? I don't know if he'll be bad or not, but I can't wait to see what happened to the other members of the organization and why they weren't in DDD.

Mirage Arena confirmed???

That would be awesome! Actually any multiplayer in KH3 would be fine with me.

I remember thinking back when BBS first came out that the Osaka team had done such a great job with that game that they should be the ones to make KH3. I was and still am very happy to know that ended up happening. For all my concerns regarding the story and aesthetic values like NPC population and non-linear world designs, I'm pretty confident that the actual gameplay of KH3 will be absolutely fantastic.

If the snow part means "Disney is shoving Frozen down our throats" I hope they think of a good story for it. I think there's other worlds where Sora might get snow in his hair tho. /chuckle. Snow does suggest Frozen off the top of my head tho.

Otherwise, bring on the hype. Weather might be awesome and I hope I can catch up and get a PS4 before this comes out. ^^

Oh God, so many good job positions! It would be amazing to work with those guys, helping with the creation of one of my favorite series. One thing I'm really interested in is level design, it would be an awesome job to have. Hopefully whoever takes that job will be good since many KH games have very linear, empty, and flat levels. We need much more verticality like Tram Common in Twilight Town, which was a step in the right direction. In fact, Twilight Town was one of the best designed levels in the series. It had good verticality for the amount of mobility in KH2 and it was more open compared to other worlds in this series. Hopefully maps in KH3 will all be thought out more, not only in the visuals and aesthetics, but in the design, too.

Not to jump too off topic again, but idk why so many people are upset with frozen being included. I know that Disney is overselling it, but it's not like it'll be the same story as the movie. And I think I saw someone on here say they were fine with Frozen, but not Star Wars or Marvel. I don't understand how you can be for one but not the others. The team will make the worlds relevant to KH. I personally think it would be really cool to see Elsa in your party, using ice magic to eliminate enemies. And I'm all for Sora running around NYC with Spider-Man especially with the update to NPC. I just think that would be really cool. So I'm on board for whatever is in store.

There was snow on the ground in Mulan's world. There was snow in Aladdin when Jafar sent him to that far away arctic region. There was snow in Monsters Inc. when Mike and Sully were banished. I mean it's obvious that FROZEN will probably be featured, but it could be for other things. Even Morgana used ice/snow powers in The Little Mermaid II, so it could really be anywhere.

I'm just glad that Square is getting more people to work on this. They need to do everything from scratch. They CANNOT re-use old models because the series skipped an entire generation of consoles.

But there was no snow in King of Thieves 8D

Which was what I was actually trying to get at but I failed miserable at getting that across :(

The though of a kh game having dynamic weather conditions sounds...awesome.Now if only night/day cycles for certain worlds was a thing.

I don't see it happening but imagining Destiny islands or Hollow bastion seamlessly transitioning from Day to night sounds amazing.

It'd be cool if it had something like Lightning Returns where, depending on the time of day, there are more or less NPC's out and about.

different enemies as well if I remember correctly.

I am definitely excited about the dynamic weather and curious about the online portion. I am not a big fan of online for KH, but if it is done well, I can live with it.

While I do hope there's stuff like an online versus mode and what not, I also hope there are various challenges from your friends in worlds. Like if they got a certain score in a minigame you can see their score and try to beat it.

While I do hope there's stuff like an online versus mode and what not, I also hope there are various challenges from your friends in worlds. Like if they got a certain score in a minigame you can see their score and try to beat it.

Hmm. Am I the only one how want`s KH to stay as singleplayer experience? I would like much better if instead of multiplayer, they created a post game dungeon like Cavern of Remambrance, and directed all of their attention to polish the story mode. All though who is to say they can`t do both. I still have to admit that multiplayer sounds interesting, but I prefer SP over MP.

I would not want to rule out a multiplayer mode completely, but I certainly want the singleplayer and story elements/scenarios to receive the priority focus in terms of development and attention and to be independent from any multiplayer content (meaning no scraps of story that can only be experienced through multiplayer).

I personally think Multiplayer in games like KH is rather unneccessary, unlike such games ala Tekken, Call of Duty etc. who thrive on the MP aspect.
And therefore MP can be an afterthought until everything else is set up smoothly and runs and those who don't care for it can then simply ignore it.

Personally I've wanted KH to give the option for additional players to take control of AI party members for a long time. If the game's already balanced to have combatants besides Sora (especially with the alleged improved AI) then making co-op a bonus mode should be relatively painless. Like in the Tales of series.

Besides, to have "Friendship" as the central theme of the franchise & leave it a solitary experience seems...a tad contradictory.

That... would be pretty cool. I remember in Bravely Default there was a similar thing which really focused on borrowing the strength of people from your 3DS friends list so it would be great if you had the option to transfer another player's stats or commands to your own, if only for a limited time. They already have something like that with the D-Links so I don't see why couldn't expand on it.

If they include a Frozen world I will have to mute my TV when I play it
Fuck that shit...I have never watched the movie,I have never heard that stupid Let it Go song and I never will
I remember being cautiously optimistic when Disney announced they were going to make an adaptation of "The Snow Queen" which is one of my favorite fairytales
Than...a few years later trailer hits and bam it's nothing like The Snow Queen and looks like a retarded Direct-to-DVD Movie to boot
I'd rather re-watch Return of Jafar 100 times then ever watch that piece of shit

Oh God.
If I was an illustration major I would have sent in my application in a heart beat. It would have been a dream come true to work on this
Im most excited for what they plan to do with online capabilities and the NCP's. The mirage area was such a good addition to the game and give you more reason to play after finishing the story. Still, i hope its not just arena matches and mini games. It would be nice to have a mission mode or what have you to play with others.
Or do you think X[Chi] will be implemented??? Or maybe just and element of it, assuming it get localized in the west.

I'm hoping that the NCP's appearing in the worlds (hopefully no more empty worlds) that react to battles and events aren't limited to supporting characters. It'd be nice to see any nameless NCP react to heartless swarms appearing or whatever else happening have effect on them like in FF games. It doesn't have to be the same way, but making the NCP's aware of situations and having the option to hear what they have to say about anything less awkward.

Mm hating something blindly because it deviates from the source material doesn't make you cool or vindicated, and please don't use ableist language. Statistically speaking Frozen is literally Disney's crown jewel and the most successful animated film ever. Nothing is 100% but frozen is close to a garuntee

Not when it's adjusted for inflation it's not(which is what really matters)
I don't care either way...I hated their previous Crown Jewel too...that overrated Lion King(unfortunately for me that movie has very few haters...but at it least it doesn't look like a Direct to Video movie like Frozen does so I'll give it that)

Frozen didn't deviate from the Source Material...Disney pretty much falsely advertised the whole thing in the first place...it wasn't even loosely based on the same Fairy Tale as they claim...cuz apart from the snow they have nothing in common
I've never watched it and I will never watch it...it looks dumb and I will not give that kind of sh*t the time of day...same goes for the bloody Live Action Maleficient Movie with Angelina Jolie
They have ruined Pixar too...ugh

I can use whatever the f*ck language I want

okay


Not trying to derail the conversation anymore but this isn't really a place for that kinda talk. If you don't like a thing then okay cool.

Frozen isn't confirmed till we see a statement or what have you put out by the developers. And if it is in the game, then its in the game. we have to play it.

Regardless of weather or not its in the game, The effects they seem to want to use for textures and shadings would make it a really beautiful world. It'd be nice for them to animate the cold breath or reflections in the ice. With this unreal engine, they can make a lot of pretty graphics happen.
Is it strong enough to animate even little details like individual snow flakes? or blades of grass? I know nothing about what its limits are.

No need to cuss though. Anyway I'm just hoping tbh that they make it part of the story in a way if they are including it at all. No musical rhythm game for it, ugh. I mean, I have the DVD of Frozen, and my nephew loves the movie, so it gets watched a lot.

I'm just hoping it's a decent story in game, and not a excuse for a bit of kissing lol. Again, if "snow effects" means "Frozen" well..

damn comes off to me like a mean angry guy and that's really unfortunate imo

the only thing that makes me mad in KH is when the gameplay is shitty which happen sometimes, and I think they're working hard to make that happen in KH3 so I'm glad

I think thats something they are addressing based on what Yasue said regarding learning experience from the development of 2.5.

"but at the same time we don’t want to change what is fundamental about Kingdom Hearts. We’re hiring new people continuously, so they are learning about Kingdom Hearts through making 2.5. It’s a good learning experience."

making improvements to the combat programing would be something to learn from in prior installments. Though i do hope that means its more of an updated version of what we already had. Not a completely new way to fight. I was pretty comfortable with the battle aspects in the console games.

I don't see how you can hate Hamlet with lions but okay.

I doubt you've seen any actual straight to DVD movies recently.

Frozen didn't deviate from the Source Material...Disney pretty much falsely advertised the whole thing in the first place...it wasn't even loosely based on the same Fairy Tale as they claim...cuz apart from the snow they have nothing in common I've never watched it and I will never watch it...it looks dumb and I will not give that kind of sh*t the time of day...same goes for the bloody Live Action Maleficient Movie with Angelina Jolie They have ruined Pixar too...ugh

I understand being disappointed that Frozen didn't end up being anything like it was initially going to be. But there are far more legitimate criticisms for the film than that, and blindly hating it just because it isn't for you when you haven't even seen it is immature.

I can use whatever the f*ck language I want

Yeah, purposely bypassing this forums censors just because you want to swear is really cool. That's against our rules, please refrain from doing so again.

No, I agree with you. Kingdom Hearts is first and foremost a single player game. Side games can do what they want, but it will turn me off. However, I would not mind Chaser's idea of mini-game scores being posted so you can compare with your friends. Heck, it actually adds replay value to better your score. Things like that only add to an already existing idea. However, co-op should be a no-go right now. Online stuff outside of the little things usually sacrifices story and characters. Look at MMOs, terrible stories...

damn comes off as a guy who likes to pretend he hates what is considered popular by mainstream because it makes him feel unique and rebellious...

I have a feeling KH3 gameplay will be super fast. I think Nomura stated that had to reconfigure some things because Sora was almost invincible in the early production period.

@Chaser, I'm so sorry man...If I had never emphasized that small point you made (and I definitely understood what you meant), I'm sure everyone wouldn't have even mentioned/noticed it. It looks like it's making the discussion just a little hostile.


To stay on the intended topic, while I do want my KH experience to be a solo one, I certainly wouldn't mind having a mission like mode to play with friends where you play as multiple characters like in Days. I also want a Mirage Arena like mode again where you can take on exclusive bosses with a friend (or solo). Hopefully that position has something to do with that.

I remember before information about KH2 was released, there was some false info. about how there would be day and night times to all the worlds (and how different Heartless, etc. would appear at different times). I was excited about it when it was released, but it wasn't true. I hope they eventually manage to do something like that with KH3.

Re: the overrated films discussion--I'd much rather a world on Frozen than The Lion King. For a lot of reasons. Btw, if we take into account inflation, neither have outdone One Hundred and One Dalmatians or Snow White.

I must say I do not understand the Frozen-hate either. While Disney may be pushing Frozen on SE, something tells me SE will want to do Frozen no matter what Disney says.

Not only is Frozen extremely popular, but it is a really great movie with a theme that is very close to KH's themes given the heart is so powerful in Frozen. If you don't remind yourself of what it could be (by comparing it to the source material) or how everyone is obsessed with it (overhyping it), it's a movie that fits very well with Kingdom Hearts and is a great movie (just so long as SE doesn't make it a singing world like Atlantica in KH2).

Also, in terms of a world itself, it is unlike any world we've ever visited in KH so it'd fit perfectly in KH's robust lineup of locales. While we have seen snow mountains in Land of Dragons, Frozen is not just snowy mountains. It is her ice castle, it is the rock troll garden, and most importantly, it is the frozen fjord (the frozen lake that the final parts of the movie take place in). Don't tell me fighting a giant ice enemy in the fjord wouldn't just be the cat's meow :)



I definitely agree that KH, while it may not have bad multiplayer (I loved Mirage Arena), is always strongest in its single-player storyline. Allowing someone who needs help to play through the single-play storyline with friends I cannot see going wrong. It would incorporate the best parts of the game (the singleplayer and the story, yes, I just said that) with a major theme which is friendship.

Plus, the idea of me playing as Donald, Goofy, Ariel, etc. is just too much for me NOT to be excited. Not that playing another keyblade wielder is bad, but darnnit if playing as Disney characters isn't more exciting!



Pretty much, when adjusting for inflation, Snow White is the 10th highest grossing movie of all time (not just animated films). Also, regardless of how much profit each movie made, it reflects nothing on merchandise sales which also takes into account how popular a movie is (you rarely see Snow White merchandise selling nowadays despite the movie being a top grossing film).

In terms of merchandise sales, you can see Frozen being very popular and the only movie to ever do even better than Frozen in terms of merchandise sales was Little Mermaid back in 1989 which pretty much single-handedly put everyone's faith back into Disney. Even nowadays, the most popular princesses are Frozen, Tangled, and Little Mermaid. Over 25 years later, Ariel is a mainstay princess with significant power. So I guess my little rant just means you don't know who the "crown jewel" of Disney is. Frozen, Little Mermaid, Snow White, Lion King, Beauty and the Beast? They're all freaking amazing, just don't let everyone's love of the movie make you hate it <_< [/offtopic]

That's true. I could actually see them relating it to the whole darkness-isn't-evil despite what people say part of the story, in relation to Terra and Riku.

Even nowadays, the most popular princesses are Frozen, [strike]Tangled[/strike]Cinderella, and Little Mermaid.

:tongue: But I agree with everything else.

If they use frozen I hope Elsa use the power of darkness, when I listen to Let it go I just hear her sing about how she become the whore.
Don't care about anything anymore and let go of everything she stood for, now lets see what she is capable of.
All that darkness building up for years, it would be cool to play as Riku through that story so I think they should wait until they make another game like that or maybe Sora get a greater understanding of what Riku have gone through, maybe he have to learn that as well after the 3D tease.
If they go through with that I'm 100% fine with them using that movie but I don't even think Disney would let them to be honest so no.

Even though i'm not much of a fan of frozen.

After seeing this gif i can't help but imagine how cool it would be to see Sora traversing through that massive blizzard generated from Elsa.

I was thinking the same thing, not with frozen, but just the Blizzard effect in general.

But FFXV and KHIII are two different games, two different styles, and on two different engines so these kind of ice effects might not be seen in KHIII (Unreal can totally handle it, I'm sure, but it might not be a priority of theirs to do).

ya, Kingdom Hearts is not about realism or realistic effects. Its nice to have the cartoony effects upgraded and still utilized in big games. Leave the photo-realism to Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts can keep the artistic style. :)