Square Enix Released Brand New Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Renders and Screenshots
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- Published on November 22, 2016 @ 12:27 am
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Square Enix released new renders of Aqua, Mickey Mouse, and the main characters of Kingdom Hearts X Back Cover: Aced, Ava, Gula, Invi, Ira, and the Master of Masters.
Square Enix also released screenshots from Kingdom Hearts 0.2 and Dream Drop Distance HD.
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SO ready for this game!! Wonder if/when we'll get characters that have anagrams of these masters' names...
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All hail the power of Unreal Engine 4. These look incredible. The keyblades in particular are stunning. 10/10
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Oh my god they look gorgeous! Mickey looks SO cute and a lot better than he did when we seen him in the second 2.8 trailer.
Loving the screenshots that are teasing Enchanted Dominion as well! Ugh I just need this game to come out in December like it was going to originally :'(.
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Why Square Enice dont Release this Pictures not as Wallpaper... this Aqua in the Air, was a great Wallpaper...
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As my friend kindly pointed out, Ava and Ira are wearing capes. I don't remember that.
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As my friend kindly pointed out, Ava and Ira are wearing capes. I don't remember that.
You can see Ava's cape to the side
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No, that's her dress thing. All of the foretellers have that.
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No, that's her dress thing. All of the foretellers have that.
And all Foretellers have that in their KHXBack Cover renders, you just can't see them in three of the renders above.
Unless the cape you can see is different to the "dress thing", in which case I apologise for the misunderstanding.
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I see I see. Yes, the renders hide them.
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Notice the scratches on Aced's Keyblade? Nice.
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So is Mickey wearing his CoM outfit? BTW Master Invi looks gorgeous. So glad that I was in her faction.
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So is Mickey wearing his CoM outfit? BTW Master Invi looks gorgeous. So glad that I was in her faction.
Yes, 0.2 takes place right before CoM.
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Hey guys, as people on KH13 are pointing out, there's similarities between their poses and those of some present day characters:
Gula's is identical to Sora's KH3 render, Aced is similar to one of Terra's official artwork, and Ira REALLY reminds me of Eraqus. Not sure on the others, but the Master of Masters having one hand behind his back reminds me of Ansem the Wise's tendecy to have both.
Original post.
Also, Invi's pose reminds me of how Kairi held her Keyblade for the first time in KH2, but it's not the same pose.
Can anyone think of any significance for the Foretellers' keychains or remember anytime we saw an object similar to those? Because Ira's keychain looks like one of the symbols in the KH3 chess pieces. And speaking of which, the tooth of Invi's Keyblade looks like the thorn symbol that people are associating with Marluxia.
I wonder if we'll see the Foretellers' faces this time. I want to see if Invi is hiding something in her mouth. Could she have an injury there, or maybe even an X-scar like Saïx?
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I wonder if we'll see the Foretellers' faces this time. I want to see if Invi is hiding something in her mouth. Could she have an injury there, or maybe even an X-scar like Saïx?
Nothing's wrong with her mouth, but the possibility of a scar like Saïx's isn't completely out of the window.
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Are they trying to kill me with these?
So amazing!
Man, those renders are all so damn pretty, but boy oh boy do I hate how the Foretellers' Keyblades look. I mean, they look good graphically, I just dislike the actual designs, though I suppose they also have an older Keyblade look to them. The only one I actually like would be [strike]Kairi's[/strike] I MEAN UH Ava's.
I actually like all of the designs. They kinda look elegant (Ava's KB at least), rusty and... antique, I guess?
I actually love the designs the most out of any main keyblades
This game looks a lot better than it initially did. I'm pretty excited for it now.
Those poses really are something. I'm more hyped for 2.8 now Haha.
They look so cool, the Foreteller poses also seem to contrast well with their personalities.
They really look very fancy, each of them.
Seeing how Star Seeker is as big as Mickey himself made me grin somewhat, especially when remembering that Mickey uses a weapon as big as he himself is to flip around crazily like Master Yoda (who actually has a smaller Lightsaber to accomodate for his short stature) without ever hurting himself.
I'm loving Invi so damn much
I wonder why Aqua and Mickey are the only renders representing 0.2 Birth by Sleep? Why isn't there a Terra or Ventus render? Aside that, I'm loving the quality of these shots and renders!
I'm loving Invi so damn much
Agreed.
Wow, if this is what UE4 can pull off with KH's style… I am so ready for KH3.
I wonder why Aqua and Mickey are the only renders representing 0.2 Birth by Sleep? Why isn't there a Terra or Ventus render? Aside that, I'm loving the quality of these shots and renders!
Because the game is mainly focussed on Aqua and we saw some of Mickey but they probably don't want to spoil it if we get to see more of Terra and Ventus?
Looking good, I love their keyblades. Especially Invi's, would be cool to get to use it in KH3, maybe. Foreteller keychains could be DLC stuff or something.
Looking good, I love their keyblades. Especially Invi's, would be cool to get to use it in KH3, maybe. Foreteller keychains could be DLC stuff or something.
Stop making me wish for DLCs!
Jokes aside, I would love to use the Keyblades of the Foretellers! Honestly, I would pay for that!
Well, maybe something similar. I'm the last person who digs the Rebirth theory but maybe, if we get multiple playable characters, they could use similar keyblades respectively.
This talk is making me want to play as the Foretellers now. They all have interesting fighting styles… Maybe sometime in the far, far future? ;n;
It could work. I mean, we don't know if their keyblades are unique and there's only one. At least Chi/Unchained seems to show that many wielders can have the same keychain and thus have a similar looking keyblade. Sora and Riku both get Ultima Weapon in DDD, Riku and Sora have both used Oblivion etc. so it's possible we could have Foreteller keyblades without there being any connection between them and the main cast.
Yea no, I rather have the Foreteller's Keyblades stay theirs alone and not have them retread the "give Sora everything"-procedure yet again.
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Ava's Keyblade is practically as big as her! That's adorable <3
Her and Invi have the biggest Keyblades relative to their size (and Invi has the largest Keyblade of the five.) I just find that neat for some reason.
As others have said, digging the keyblades. Finally seeing a detailed look at them, having only seen Ava's in Unchained X, and they are gorgeous! The detailing is so beautiful. Aced's 'bears' (swidt) similarity to Terra's Earthshaker.
Ava's is still my favorite though. Sorry, Ira.
So do y'all think we will get the MoM real name. If they are keeping the seven deadly sins theme. Then his name would be related to pride, since that is the one that is left. Superbia probably.
I've seen some comparisons of the characters' poses. Does anyone know if there's someone else in the series who does the MoM's pointing pose here?
You know something I noticed? Gula's Keyblade is made of thunders, and thunders come from the sky (sora). He also seems to have a facial structure similar to Sora's.
Nothing's wrong with her mouth, but the possibility of a scar like Saïx's isn't completely out of the window.
Maybe something in the neck? She's really the only one who covers more than the upper half of head.
I've seen some comparisons of the characters' poses. Does anyone know if there's someone else in the series who does the MoM's pointing pose here?
I mentioned in the first page. Ansem the Wise does the hands behind the back, but I don't think we've ever seen anyone doing the pointing thing, except Xigbar in a KH2FM cutscene. Thinking about it, the Master's "You really think the world can be saved by seven people?" in the trailer seems like it is said in a way similar to Xigbar's personality.
So do y'all think we will get the MoM real name. If they are keeping the seven deadly sins theme. Then his name would be related to pride, since that is the one that is left. Superbia probably.
i was thinking more of like Surbia, if the ''r' being silent. but that's just my head-canon.
I mentioned in the first page. Ansem the Wise does the hands behind the back, but I don't think we've ever seen anyone doing the pointing thing, except Xigbar in a KH2FM cutscene. Thinking about it, the Master's "You really think the world can be saved by seven people?" in the trailer seems like it is said in a way similar to Xigbar's personality.
o.o Xigbar points in one of the scenes? MoM already reminds me waaaay too much of Xigbar, between the way he delivers some of his lines in the trailers and this.
You know something I noticed? Gula's Keyblade is made of thunders, and thunders come from the sky (sora). He also seems to have a facial structure similar to Sora's
Xehanort points some in the end of BBS, but he tends to do it pointing foward, not upward. Though he starts by poiting upward before putting his hand a bit down at Ven and saying "x-blade". And he does the both-hands-behind-back thing as well. He's actually doing it in that cutscene with both hands before starting to move one, at which point the other stays on his back. He points at Ven with his right hand though, it's a bit of a mirror to the MoM's pose.
So do y'all think we will get the MoM real name. If they are keeping the seven deadly sins theme. Then his name would be related to pride, since that is the one that is left. Superbia probably.
A bit much for me. I'd rather it be Fastus.
I think the similarities of Gula's and Sora's KH3 poses is just coincidental, since Ava (spoiler warning for khux and khx) does have a similar pose when using her illusion abilities to pose as one of the other fortellers.
Also when comparing KH3 Sora to Gula, I noticed that Gula and Ava seem younger than Sora when he is 18 years old. So maybe Gula and Ava are in their early to mid teens.
A bit much for me. I'd rather it be Fastus.
maybe his name is actually mom and he's just a really kind and nurturing person
I think the similarities of Gula's and Sora's KH3 poses is just coincidental, since Ava (spoiler warning for khux and khx) does have a similar pose when using her illusion abilities to pose as one of the other fortellers.
Also when comparing KH3 Sora to Gula, I noticed that Gula and Ava seem younger than Sora when he is 18 years old. So maybe Gula and Ava are in their early to mid teens.
I think the similarities of Gula's and Sora's KH3 poses is just coincidental, since Ava (spoiler warning for khux and khx) does have a similar pose when using her illusion abilities to pose as one of the other fortellers.
Also when comparing KH3 Sora to Gula, I noticed that Gula and Ava seem younger than Sora when he is 18 years old. So maybe Gula and Ava are in their early to mid teens.
Certainly a possibility as this might be a classical case of overthinking things and/or grasping for straws to strongarm some connection between the Foretellers and already existing characters.
This is honestly something I do not understand in general. One one hand, people are complaining about "too many clones/offshoots/different variations" of already existing characters and demanding for unique new characters yet on the other when we do get introduced to a set of possible new characters there gets the utmost stuff done to frantically relate them somehow to already existing major characters.
It's paradoxial.
Since when is Sora 18 years old? He's at most 16 since Re: Coded and DDD take place not long after KH III.
i think it metion somewhere that ava and gular are the youngest foretller
There have not been any ages mentioned but due to their stature Ava and Gula get most often interpreted as the youngest of the Foretellers.
On a side note just out of curiosity: Why is it always so hard to actually decipher what your posts say? There are always letters missing in words or some extra where they don't belong.
There have not been any ages mentioned but due to their stature Ava and Gula get most often interpreted as the youngest of the Foretellers.
On a side note just out of curiosity: Why is it always so hard to actually decipher what your posts say? There are always letters missing in words or some extra where they don't belong.
Certainly a possibility as this might be a classical case of overthinking things and/or grasping for straws to strongarm some connection between the Foretellers and already existing characters.
This is honestly something I do not understand in general. One one hand, people are complaining about "too many clones/offshoots/different variations" of already existing characters and demanding for unique new characters yet on the other when we do get introduced to a set of possible new characters there gets the utmost stuff done to frantically relate them somehow to already existing major characters.
It's paradoxial.
Since when is Sora 18 years old? He's at most 16 since Re: Coded and DDD take place not long after KH III.
There have not been any ages mentioned but due to their stature Ava and Gula get most often interpreted as the youngest of the Foretellers.
On a side note just out of curiosity: Why is it always so hard to actually decipher what your posts say? There are always letters missing in words or some extra where they don't belong.
He sounds like Roxas/Ven (connected to Sora) and then give him an almost identical pose to Sora's KH3 render. Do you blame us? Especially in a game that literally forces the idea of everything being connected. To be honest it's getting sort of repetitive so I really do hope they made the render like that to throw us off, and instead surprise us with something new.
I would kill for figurines of the Masters right now. They look amazing!
yeah i get what you saying but i really think they are the youngest forteller as for the other thing sometimes i type so fast that forget to check my spelling
Yea sure, like said, it is a valid interpretation, it just isn't confirmed anywhere.
Ah I see, well, maybe typing a little slower would be helpful then. ^__^
He sounds like Roxas/Ven (connected to Sora) and then give him an almost identical pose to Sora's KH3 render. Do you blame us? Especially in a game that literally forces the idea of everything being connected. To be honest it's getting sort of repetitive so I really do hope they made the render like that to throw us off, and instead surprise us with something new.
Last time I checked Gula isn't voiced by Jesse McCartney or KÅki Uchiyama, so that already falls flat and otherwise it is just a damn simple pose.
Does that mean that if a character dons the "Saturday Night Fever"-pose we can expect John Travolta to be in KH wielding the Discoblade or if there's someone sitting with his hands crossed before his mouth that Gendo Ikari will show up?
Riku and Vanitas also share the same battle stance and there's zero connection between them.
It is not about casting blame actually but more me wondering why there is so much overthinking in this regard.
A connection between characters can mean several different things, it doesn't have to be the literal offshoot/variation of the same character-stuff that has been done to death already in the KH series as a whole, so yes, it is getting repetitive.
If one wanted to put it most harshly, Ephemer, Skuld (and possibly Chirithy) might be the only characters coming from the X[chi]-era that have any actual worth when/if the Foretellers are really just another bunch of useless clones/offshoots that serve for yet another trip down the identity crisis- and "who am I"-angsting lane already present in KH 2 and Days (with both Roxas and Xion), CoM (with the Riku Replica), BBS (with Ventus), Re: Coded (with the data beings) and DDD (with Sora himself).
While a plotpoint/scenario can be used more than once with enough creativity, there comes a point somewhere where even the most goodwilled follower gets fed up with retreading the same stuff over and over.
Does that mean that if a character dons the "Saturday Night Fever"-pose we can expect John Travolta to be in KH wielding the Discoblade or if there's someone sitting with his hands crossed before his mouth that Gendo Ikari will show up?
I can't be the only one who stopped reading here for an epic slow clap.
People are so hopped up on trying to force connections between characters like some madcap Nort that they're forgetting the important questions, like why in the everloving blue hell do the Foretellers' keyblades have the eye of darkness on the keychains?
@sephiroth didn't say he is voiced by the same VA, just that he sounds similar. I'd like to believe that they'd do something different with the Foretellers, never said I didn't, was just saying that it's perfectly valid to also assume that there might be a connection. I think you didn't catch my drift :)
Does that mean that if a character dons the "Saturday Night Fever"-pose we can expect John Travolta to be in KH wielding the Discoblade or if there's someone sitting with his hands crossed before his mouth that Gendo Ikari will show up?
Oh come on, there's just no comparison.
Gula and Sora have the EXACT same pose; there's an infinite number of poses they could have used for the two characters. This is not a coincidence. I know sometimes Kingdom Hearts fans can come up with some far-fetched theories sometimes, but you can't look at something like this and think 'Oh, that's just reaching'.
Oh come on, there's just no comparison.
Gula and Sora have the EXACT same pose; there's an infinite number of poses they could have used for the two characters. This is not a coincidence. I know sometimes Kingdom Hearts fans can come up with some far-fetched theories sometimes, but you can't look at something like this and think 'Oh, that's just reaching'.
Of course, there's still the possibility that it could just be a red herring, you never know. :wink:
Last time I checked Gula isn't voiced by Jesse McCartney or KÅki Uchiyama, so that already falls flat and otherwise it is just a damn simple pose.
Does that mean that if a character dons the "Saturday Night Fever"-pose we can expect John Travolta to be in KH wielding the Discoblade or if there's someone sitting with his hands crossed before his mouth that Gendo Ikari will show up?
Riku and Vanitas also share the same battle stance and there's zero connection between them.
It is not about casting blame actually but more me wondering why there is so much overthinking in this regard.
A connection between characters can mean several different things, it doesn't have to be the literal offshoot/variation of the same character-stuff that has been done to death already in the KH series as a whole, so yes, it is getting repetitive.
If one wanted to put it most harshly, Ephemer, Skuld (and possibly Chirithy) might be the only characters coming from the X[chi]-era that have any actual worth when/if the Foretellers are really just another bunch of useless clones/offshoots that serve for yet another trip down the identity crisis- and "who am I"-angsting lane already present in KH 2 and Days (with both Roxas and Xion), CoM (with the Riku Replica), BBS (with Ventus), Re: Coded (with the data beings) and DDD (with Sora himself).
While a plotpoint/scenario can be used more than once with enough creativity, there comes a point somewhere where even the most goodwilled follower gets fed up with retreading the same stuff over and over.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
People are so hopped up on trying to force connections between characters like some madcap Nort that they're forgetting the important questions, like why in the everloving blue hell do the Foretellers' keyblades have the eye of darkness on the keychains?
Pretty sure that the Eye of Darkness is the “All seeing eye†that the Master of Masters has. Maybe it’s a tracker to observe the Forteller’s whilst he “disappearedâ€â€¦ kind of like Xehanort and the "X" as a tracker on Sora, Ventus, Terra and Aqua's clothing.
Oh come on, there's just no comparison.
Gula and Sora have the EXACT same pose; there's an infinite number of poses they could have used for the two characters. This is not a coincidence. I know sometimes Kingdom Hearts fans can come up with some far-fetched theories sometimes, but you can't look at something like this and think 'Oh, that's just reaching'.
I completely agree. There's a difference between pulling at straws and making a believable connection. This definitely falls in the latter regardless if you’re a believer of the “Reincarnation†theory or not.
Omg this character has the same pose as that other one, they just have to have a connection!!!
No, doesn't sound fishy Red Herring-ish at all! Something so obvious must be the case, I'm sure!
If poses say that much, does it mean that Aqua is Cloud and Sora is Aerith? ohmigawd mind blownnn
These things get so tiring.
These things get so tiring.
I just have to agree with this...
If poses say that much, does it mean that Aqua is Cloud and Sora is Aerith? ohmigawd mind blownnn
OMG! Now we have another piece of the "Aerith is the real seventh princess" theory!!! sorry I couldn't think of anything original
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That's enough. The attitude y'all throw over the littlest things, I swear. One well-mannered "nah, they use the same poses all the time" would have been enough. This exhuastive tirade is unnecessary.
That's enough. The attitude y'all throw over the littlest things, I swear. One well-mannered "nah, they use the same poses all the time" would have been enough. This exhuastive tirade is unnecessary.
Y'know, sometimes I feel like you are overreacting about little things too. It's not like we were calling names, so I don't see why you are making such a fuss about it?
idk, to me you guys were needlessly snarky and disparaging. there were like five posts making the same snarky statement ridiculing people for suggesting there may be something meaningful in them sharing a pose. it was overkill and seemed to hold no real purpose other than to make someone feel bad and certainly doesn't make the community feel welcoming. it can be exhausting. especially when it's not even really warranted. you guys are acting like someone pointing out them sharing a pose is on the level of a larxene012 theory and it really isn't.
Y'know, sometimes I feel like you are overreacting about little things too. It's not like we were calling names, so I don't see why you are making such a fuss about it?
Just because you deleted that one post doesn't mean it went without being noticed. I'm not above slipping up, I'm working on it, but the forums are bogged down with way too much negativity and it can discourage new users from posting. You're going to be seeing a lot of effort in the coming months to stop The forums from becoming an echo chamber of snark
Just because you deleted that one post doesn't mean it went without being noticed. I'm not above slipping up, I'm working on it, but the forums are bogged down with way too much negativity and it can discourage new users from posting. You're going to be seeing a lot of effort in the coming months to stop The forums from becoming an echo chamber of snark
Lol I know it didn't went without being noticed. Otherwise I wouldn't have added that comment, right?
But hey, this is just a forum about a Disney game, am I right, Tinny? :)
Just because you are a mod doesn't mean you're superior or anything. I am acting towards you like I am acting to any other user as well, maybe you should try doing that instead of giving some users a free pass?
Lol I know it didn't went without being noticed. Otherwise I wouldn't have added that comment, right?
But hey, this is just a forum about a Disney game, am I right, Tinny? :)
Just because you are a mod doesn't mean you're superior or anything. I am acting towards you like I am acting to any other user as well, maybe you should try doing that instead of giving some users a free pass?
I believe I've given you more than one free pass. The entire reason I posted was because I was getting complaints privately, and I think asking everyone to stop being snide is pretty reasonable for a Disney game community. I'm doing my best, please stay on topic and try not to undermine the staff here.
you guys are acting like someone pointing out them sharing a pose is on the level of a larxene012 theory and it really isn't.
Sorry about that....couldn't think of anything else. I'll just go.
This is tiring. I'm only going to say this once in this thread before I issue out an announcement later on today.
The snark and echo chamber of dismissals on many posts is frustrating to see and it doesn't make our site look friendly or welcoming at all. There are things that are silly and should be addressed with reasonable rebuttals to discuss why they aren't possible, but there is no need for a bunch of people to snark at an idea that isn't even offensive or off the walls insane.
You guys like to forget the days when small poses or small little details were all we had to base theories on, and many of them have ended up correct. :\
This type of discussion is stifling creative and friendly discussion. It doesn't matter if this is a forum about a Disney game or a forum of scientists trying to solve the cure to cancer. Everybody needs to post with a modicum of respect. Have fun, be silly, be serious, but the constant negativity has been lingering around for months and it turns people off from posting.
The mods Taochan, Sign, and I hire represent us and our wishes. It should not fall upon us to always intervene to tell you all to stop being disrespectful to other users.
I know you all are better than this. You guys can be fun, silly, and welcoming while balancing that out with more critical and intelligent discourse. I want to see that from y'all again. 2.8 is coming out soon and there is so much to discuss but if you guys keep saying things aren't possible, then discussions go nowhere and nobody gets to discuss anything.
Now, you may continue talking about the images. In fact, I had the same thought about it because Gula doesn't have a very confident or bold personality so that Sora-esque pose is very striking.
master spocaknort i agree with the pose do you think he gain confidence later when the war appoaches
master spocaknort i agree with the pose do you think he gain confidence later when the war appoaches
It certainly is possible! I personally want to see that because from what we saw, he was trying to hide away from everything but who knows! Maybe BC will show another side to him that X/UX hasn't shown.
If he is anything like Sora, Roxas, or Ven, then I could easily see his character arc centering on his courage.
It certainly is possible! I personally want to see that because from what we saw, he was trying to hide away from everything but who knows! Maybe BC will show another side to him that X/UX hasn't shown.
If he is anything like Sora, Roxas, or Ven, then I could easily see his character arc centering on his courage.
Guys, all your theories are dumb, because Kingdom Hearts is a dumb franchise, so let's all take comfort in knowing that we like something really dumb together.
Guys, all your theories are dumb, because Kingdom Hearts is a dumb franchise, so let's all take comfort in knowing that we like something really dumb together.
God bless you Launchpad McQuack.
honesty i think what backcover what it surpose to do show the forteeler who they really are because we never got that in the player point of view
Yeah, you are right about that. But even in the trailers he comes off pretty meek and quiet. The scene with him and Aced fighting even shows his hesitant nature while he is trying to be brave and stand up against him.
what if gula is using sora's pose to show he is an 11 year old boy
what if gula is using sora's pose to show he is an 11 year old boy
Excuse you. It is showing he is a 14/15 year old boy.
I do wonder how old all of the Foretellers are...and how old they were when they started their training under the Master of Masters.
Excuse you. It is showing he is a 14/15 year old boy.
I do wonder how old all of the Foretellers are...and how old they were when they started their training under the Master of Masters.
they are all barely legal so the fanbase can shamelessly ship them, nomura learned from ddd
i'm also a believer that the MoM is really a chirithy in disguise
Oh come on, there's just no comparison.
Gula and Sora have the EXACT same pose; there's an infinite number of poses they could have used for the two characters. This is not a coincidence. I know sometimes Kingdom Hearts fans can come up with some far-fetched theories sometimes, but you can't look at something like this and think 'Oh, that's just reaching'.
There certainly is, or I wouldn't have pointed it out in the first place.
Riku and Vanitas also have the "EXACT same pose" and the connection is exactly zero.
See, that's clearly where the issue of personal interpretation comes in as it certainly can be a coincidence, it can be an intentional parallel, something called a red herring or something entirely else.
"You can't look at something like this and think and that's overthinking/grasping for straws"?
You certainly can, as I already did that in my previous post and I do not see how that is an invalid opinion and/or interpretation to have.
Of course, there's still the possibility that it could just be a red herring, you never know. :wink:
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Certainly also a possibility.
Why thank you. ^__^
OMG! Now we have another piece of the "Aerith is the real seventh princess" theory!!! sorry I couldn't think of anything original
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Ouch, I think this comparison does not really work well.
That's enough. The attitude y'all throw over the littlest things, I swear. One well-mannered "nah, they use the same poses all the time" would have been enough. This exhuastive tirade is unnecessary.
"Littlest things" is a nice prompt that goes both ways I'd say as interpreting so much in these little things is what caused me to question this practice and voice my honest confusion about it in the first place.
I don't think my initial post about it was in any way personally attacking but if it came over like that of course I apologize.
The comparison with other poses was a little exaggerated on purpose to better illustrate the issue of possibly interpreting too much into it which is the actual gripe I wanted to point out.
idk, to me you guys were needlessly snarky and disparaging. there were like five posts making the same snarky statement ridiculing people for suggesting there may be something meaningful in them sharing a pose. it was overkill and seemed to hold no real purpose other than to make someone feel bad and certainly doesn't make the community feel welcoming. it can be exhausting. especially when it's not even really warranted. you guys are acting like someone pointing out them sharing a pose is on the level of a larxene012 theory and it really isn't.
The issue is not about pointing out the same pose being used, everyone with eyes in their head can see that or purposely ridiculing people (at least not from my side, obviously can't speak for others) but to scrutinize the motivations as for why this little fact of a shared pose has to be scraped together for forcibly creating a connection with an already existing character, even more so in context with a certain theory that gets taken way too seriously by parts of the fandom.
I'm interested in hearing/reading these motivations and if there's more to it than just that particular theory, the "obviousness" of it and because "connections" are a main theme in the series.
I'm not sure how constantly active you are but during the last months the instances of scratching every little bit of information together to turn the Foretellers into yet another "set" of variations/clones of already existing major characters were quite intense with traits and issues pointed out that hinted at more individuality being dismissed because it "doesn't fit" with the supposed established character the Foreteller purportedly represents.
This being for the other side of things can of course also be exhausting to a degree, hence why sometimes reactions to yet another such claim may turn out somewhat more sour.
This is of course no excuse for actual personal attacks but I actually did not really see any serious ones here.
Again, pointing out the shared pose is not where the gripe lies, but what gets additionally implied by that afterwards.
In this case it is about Gula, but it can be extended to all Foretellers alike.
I'm not above slipping up, I'm working on it, but the forums are bogged down with way too much negativity and it can discourage new users from posting. You're going to be seeing a lot of effort in the coming months to stop The forums from becoming an echo chamber of snark
I wholeheartly agree with the negativity bit and I personally also try to not getting too carried away with witty/snarky remarks.
I mean, of course the pose could mean absolutely nothing. It could also be a red herring the way Vanitas was, where the idea seemed to be to think he was connected to Riku when he's connected to Ven (and through Ven, Sora). But in a series that has been focusing on connections between characters for so long, where multiple characters share the exact same face, a pose can be interpreted as many things, and there is absolutely basis to think so, after all we've gotten so far.
I know people are tired of characters being connected and looking the same and whatever, but in a series where that has been the case since the second game out of seven, the first idea when you see a bunch of characters hiding their faces is definitely that those faces are being hidden to hide some connection to the main cast. It's entirely possible they are doing it to make us think there is a connection but there actually isn't, but when has that ever been the case? And then, after we already have these thoughts, we see Gula having the exact same pose as Sora. It's suspicious, and definitely a thing that I feel should be discussed, to some extent?
But, I mean, I only caught up on Kingdom Hearts this year, so I guess the older fans are just tired of this kind of discussion? Eh.
Now that you talk about the ages of the Foretellers and thinking of the other members in the different unions, was it mostly teenagers who died during the war? If that is true then it's really horrifying. D8
Now that you talk about the ages of the Foretellers and thinking of the other members in the different unions, was it mostly teenagers who died during the war? If that is true then it's really horrifying. D8
Based on what we saw of Union members in the E3 trailer, yes. It was teenagers.
where are all the adults in KH? why are all the adults villainous?
When you think the series has come to a point that it can't get any more darker and tragic than it is, Nomura is like: "Bro check this out. A bunch of kids died in a war that caused the apocalypse." D8
where are all the adults in KH? why are all the adults villainous?
its like codename kid next door. YX is voiced by numbah one and numbah too, THINK
its like codename kid next door. YX is voiced by numbah one and numbah too, THINK
Yeah, Ben Diskin dubbed them in one special collab if I remember correctly.
And KH is a japanese work, so obviously teenagers are the only one able to save everything.
That, and remember we shouldn't expect too much from a series of which the most impressive thing was done by children.
I don't really see the Sora facial similarity tbh The only thing Sora and Gula even have in common right now is that their renders share a pose and that's it.
Look again at the KHIII render. You can see Sora's chin looks like Gula's. Perhaps you can see better in this render. You can also see their faces side by side in this video at 2:05.
If one wanted to put it most harshly, Ephemer, Skuld (and possibly Chirithy) might be the only characters coming from the X[chi]-era that have any actual worth when/if the Foretellers are really just another bunch of useless clones/offshoots that serve for yet another trip down the identity crisis- and "who am I"-angsting lane already present in KH 2 and Days (with both Roxas and Xion), CoM (with the Riku Replica), BBS (with Ventus), Re: Coded (with the data beings) and DDD (with Sora himself).
What? Look, I can understand not wanting more look-alikes (even though I think people should just accept it's already a part of the KH franchise, just like the Pikaclones in Pokémon, the Greymon-species in Digimon, and the Artoria expies in the Fate series). However, you just used the worst argument possible.
All examples you gave were related to artificial beings, amnesia, or multiple hearts (which we'll probably see again with Terra-Xehanort flashbacks in KHIII). We have no reason to believe the Foretellers fall in any of these categories. Plus, young Xehanort looks like Terra, and I doubt we'll see any identity crisis related to that in the future.
Of course, there's still the possibility that it could just be a red herring, you never know. :wink:
Certainly also a possibility.
Personally, I also used to believe the similarities pointed out in the rebirth theory were just red herrings to mislead us into believing they have the same faces, then build an expectation they have, then reveal their faces are different, thus building an expectation that the Master looks different, to then reveal the Master looks like Sora (Pride = Lion = Sora. Plus, I keep seeing pointed out that superbia and vanitas are somehow related in meaning, so I'm pretty sure the Master of Masters looks like Sora).
But then, the renders came and we can see the similarities in their faces. At this point, expecting it to be a red herring is pretty much denial.
Sure, them having the same faces as the protagonists wouldn't be a surprise. But that's the point: The surprise is not their faces, but what is in them. I have been thinking for quite some time that they might be hiding something in their faces, and perhaps the surprise is that they have some kind of symbol in their foreheads. I'm at least pretty sure Invi has an X scar somewhere. Think of it: Everyone is so focused on their faces. Who would think about their foreheads?
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November 22, 2016 @ 12:46 amOffline