New Re:Coded cinematics tie into older titles' mysteries
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- Published on June 12, 2014 @ 09:58 pm
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Co-director Tai Yasue has been busy doing interviews on the E3 expo this week, and while most of the interviews seem to focus on the more generic info of Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 ReMIX, such as its release date and which games it includes, there are some informative tidbits that have surfaced.
Just now, IGN asked him about a possible PS4 release for the HD collections and Yasue answered that the reason they're releasing on the PS3 is simply because it was decided during a time when the next generation of consoles weren't even relevant yet. However, he did not rule out the possibility of a future release of both HD collections for that platform, although nothing's been decided yet by Square Enix.
Next, Yasue was asked whether HD 2.5 ReMIX would include a collector's edition during launch, to which he replied that nothing's been decided on that matter either. The release is still nearly half a year away, so naturally there's still time.
Later, when asked about trophies, Yasue confirmed what he'd already been asked by KHInsider staff on the spot, being that they had learned a lot from having trophies in HD 1.5 ReMIX, along with the fact that there will be more trophies in this HD collection, seeing as there's such a "sheer amount of gameplay" this time around.
Finally, Yasue confirmed that the new, "secret" scenes in Re:Coded will bring new information to light about older titles and will most likely lead into Kingdom Hearts 3. Previously, it was confirmed that the cinematics will be rougly three hours long, two of which will be brand new scenes mainly encompassing all the Disney worlds and the battles.
Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 ReMIX releases October 2nd in Japan, December 2nd in the US and December 5th in Europe, exclusively on the PS3.
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Re: New Re:Coded cinematics tie into older titles' mysteries
I look forward to the Coded cutscenes. Beating the original game was difficult even with the settings as easy as I could render them. It made my constant replays of Final Fantasy XII look like cakewalks.
I still hope they get rid of the ridiculous cape in Kingdom Hearts II FM for The Lingering Will so that it transitions with BBS better. The came is a major distraction and could make it difficult to see what you are doing if they do the reverse.
I definitely look forward to the trophies, but alas December is still six months away. Guess all we can do is play other games to prepare for then.
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Glad that someone finally asked about collector's edition. At least now we know that they're still figuring it out and such. That puts my mind at ease. Just gotta wait until they get it all sorted out. TGS, probably.
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I'm sure they'll do some compilation title/collection with both ReMixes and Kingdom Hearts III on PS4 in the future. That would seem like a no brainer. I'm just glad they touched upon a possible collector's edition for II.5, if they do, I'd want it to be pretty big. Maybe not as big as a possible Kingdom Hearts III collector's edition but with some substantial amount of content.
Hopefully these new cutscenes make Re:coded's story much more interesting. It was pretty much the only title in the series that was a bit of a drag to play through
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...it was confirmed that the cinematics will be rougly three hours long, two of which will be brand new scenes mainly encompassing all the Disney worlds and the battles.
The Coded cutscenes are sounding better and better!
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This is sounding more and more like Re:coded may end up having a bit of BbSv2 in it. I am completely fine with that. Re:coded is going to be so hard to stay spoiler-free from when 2.5 comes out.
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I'm sure they'll do some compilation title/collection with both ReMixes and Kingdom Hearts III on PS4 in the future. That would seem like a no brainer. I'm just glad they touched upon a possible collector's edition for II.5, if they do, I'd want it to be pretty big. Maybe not as big as a possible Kingdom Hearts III collector's edition but with some substantial amount of content.
Hopefully these new cutscenes make Re:coded's story much more interesting. It was pretty much the only title in the series that was a bit of a drag to play through
Do your trophies from PS3 transfer over to PS4? Because if so, I might just get the remastered versions of 1.5 and 2.5 for PS4 if they were made. Otherwise, no way. Not gonna forfeit all those hours of work just for fancier graphics :P
And yeah, given how 2.5 is releasing in Japan sooner, it makes sense that their CE stuff got announced first. I assume that western CE will be announced at TGS, most likely. It'd be nice if they announced it at Comic-Con, but it seems like they need more time to plan it out. So, TGS would give them plenty of time to do that.
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And we probably still won't know what the heck Namine is, but at this point I don't really care about that anymore.
I wonder how it'll be done and what they are. In Coded the journal had flashbacks of Riku (and I think one of Pluto, but I can't remember,) that shouldn't be in there. I wouldn't be surprised if, when Namine was setting the journal up, Riku though it'd be a good idea to insert some his own memories of some things that he has been doing throughout the series, and that Namine found some of Ven's memories that she decided to put in the book as well.
These new scenes may very well be BBSv2.
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The news about coded has got me hyped most! I wonder what older mysteries will be covered (please be Micky getting KKD or Xehanort).
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This is sounding more and more like Re:coded may end up having a bit of BbSv2 in it. I am completely fine with that. Re:coded is going to be so hard to stay spoiler-free from when 2.5 comes out.
I never thought of that possibility, but that might really work! Hope something like that is implemented, especially since Re:Coded's "movie" is longer than 358's.
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The way I see it, Re:Coded will certainly be tying me over until KH3. At least, I only I have to avoid spoilers from Japan's release for two months if I want to wait until the English release. But, I had planned to play through KH2 and BBS before Re:Coded. I might not be able to make it through that, haha.
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It could be things from BBSv.2 like I theorized months ago, but remember this;
I know it says scene, but keep in mind this is a translation and was from 6 months ago. It might be possible we get scenes of Xehanort picking up the recruits for KH3D (much like what looks to be happening here)
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coded always had a few "mysteries" solved in it during the first few worlds (cutscenes you unlocked by clearing the world, like Pluto disappearing into the portal), but then they just... stopped after Traverse Town. My guess is that they had some more planned but they never made it in?
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coded always had a few "mysteries" solved in it during the first few worlds, but then they just... stopped. My guess is that they had some more planned but they never made it in?
I think it might have had something to do with the original mobile game. They got to Agrabah then cut straight to Hollow Bastion? Seems like something happened and they had to cut it short.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that it started out with mysteries that got dropped.
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It could be things from BBSv.2 like I theorized months ago, but remember this;
I know it says scene, but keep in mind this is a translation and was from 6 months ago. It might be possible we get scenes of Xehanort picking up the recruits for KH3D (much like what looks to be happening here)
So a scene of YMX or complete MX grabbing his pieces of darkness like Ansem and Xehanort or a hint to who the other seats are?
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Really excited to see some dynamic battle sequences. It's pretty crazy that there will be over twice as much new content as there is old. Wonder what they're cramming in there...
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Possibly yes. It would give a little backstory to previous games as well as bridging to KH3D at the same time. Two birds, one stone.
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So a scene of YMX or complete MX grabbing his pieces of darkness like Ansem and Xehanort or a hint to who the other seats are?
Oh man the latter would be so awesome if they added it.
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Oh man the latter would be so awesome if they added it.
I meant to type Xemnas, but yes. A scene to possibly show Sora and Co aren't out of the woods yet before Sora and Riku take their MOM exam. so both foreshadowing and a teaser for 3D.
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Definitely interested in the new cut scenes and how they connect to KHIII, o and how I long for the collections on the PS4 *-*.
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Chaser, you just blew my mind. I always wondered what that scene from Re:coded was meant to mean. That makes so much more sense.
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The biggest mystery from an older title is just how the shit did Geppetto's house get there in Traverse Town? There's just NO WAY unless Merlin poofed it there with magic. I WANT A CUTSCENE OF THAT.
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I'm glad someone finally asked about the Collector's editions too!!
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The biggest mystery from an older title is just how the shit did Geppetto's house get there in Traverse Town? There's just NO WAY unless Merlin poofed it there with magic. I WANT A CUTSCENE OF THAT.
Really, you're questioning that? That house could have been build by Merlin or Leon and the others.
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I never thought I would become this interested in Re: Coded. The main draw for me was the other two titles but... three hours you say? Two of which is new you say? Yasue my man, you had my interest... now you have my attention.
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I'm mostly excited about that scene that will be the bridge to DDD.
However I don't want to get hyped much because they haven't said anything about what will they do with DDD. Really hoping there is a "remixing" of sorts.
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Am I the only one excited that they commented on PS4 remixes?? That comment pretty much confirms them for me.
Fingers crossed for 60fps!
Re: New Re:Coded cinematics tie into older titles' mysteries
Why should I be excited about PS4 versions when I already have the PS3 ones?
In terms of content there won't be much of a difference.
The PS4 versions would only be interesting for those who do not have a PS3 and plan to get a PS4 for KH 3 (or already have a PS4 and not yet bought the remaster).
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Am I the only one excited that they commented on PS4 remixes?? That comment pretty much confirms them for me.
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Nope, you're not the only one, since I don't have a PS3 and PS4 remixes are the only way I'll get to play them! But I don't want to get my hopes up too soon... I wonder if he would have mentioned it if the interviewer hadn't asked.
Probably not. They don't want to hurt sales of the PS3 versions.
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I've been saying that I think that they're going to eventually put them on PS4, and possibly also X1. If for no other reason than to have a 2015 game to fill the gap before KH3 to keep their annualized schedule going. However, I'm 100% certain they won't announce a "Complete HD Remix" (Or whatever they decide to call it) until well after the game launches. They don't want to cannibalize ps3 sales. But yeah, I'm sure they're going to want to get these games in as many peoples' hands before KH3 launches and since the games are considered fairly cheap to make anyways it wouldn't take much to just improve the resolution/frame rate.
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Personally, I don't think the remixes will really look any better on PS4, actually. Most PS3/360 games actually run at 720p, save for a few exceptions. That's why there's the occasional game that looks really really good, like Uncharted 3, because it runs at full 1080p and 60fps. Kingdom Hearts 1.5 already is in full 1080p, hence why it looks ridiculously good. I don't recall if it was running at 60fps, but if not, that'd probably be the only difference between the PS3 and PS4 versions of the collections. So, personally, I'd stick to the PS3 versions, unless a day comes where I for some reason decide to sell my PS3, but want to still play 1.5 and 2.5 and buy those versions.
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Personally, I don't think the remixes will really look any better on PS4, actually. Most PS3/360 games actually run at 720p, save for a few exceptions. That's why there's the occasional game that looks really really good, like Uncharted 3, because it runs at full 1080p and 60fps. Kingdom Hearts 1.5 already is in full 1080p, hence why it looks ridiculously good. I don't recall if it was running at 60fps, but if not, that'd probably be the only difference between the PS3 and PS4 versions of the collections. So, personally, I'd stick to the PS3 versions, unless a day comes where I for some reason decide to sell my PS3, but want to still play 1.5 and 2.5 and buy those versions.
It doesn't run in 1080p, not internally. It's upscaled.
UPDATE:
| Internal resolutions (got from Debug PS3): Okami HD 1366 x 768 @30fps + 2x MSAA / 1280 x 720 @30fps + 4x MSAA KH1.5HD 1440x810 @30fps + 2x MSAA / 1280 x 720 @30fps + 4x MSAA There are no PS2 remasters that go over the 768p thing at 60fps, there's just not enough VRAM for such thing. BTW there are not many games that do 1920x1080 on PS3 whether it's @30fps or 60fps, most of the nearest to FULLHD ones are the ones that run at 1440x1080 (anamorphic). |
So
- 1080p
- 60fps
- Anti-aliasing
They could tinker it even more than that and correct the errors we have all seen but if they tackle these 3 I'm set. 60 fps in a KH game will be a dream come true. Make it look like this.
[spoiler=promo image][/spoiler]
The collection looked great but the aliasing was very noticeable and the frame rate was 30fps (Re:CoM dropped much lower when there were many enemies on screen). There is always room for improvement.
And for whoever wants to see how a KH game could look like in 60fps, check the description/ Just look at the smoothness of the animation.
[video=youtube;XeFeIS6l8ew]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeFeIS6l8ew[/video]
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The only way I would buy the remixes on the PS4 is if they came with a collectors edition of KH3 that had other stuff that would interest me. I'm fine with the PS3 versions. There isn't much that they could add to them. The only thing is native 1080p with 60 fps and to make the Mirage Arena in BBS online, which they aren't even doing for the PS3, so why would they take the time to do it on the PS4?
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This was probably the most exciting KH news to come out of E3 for me.
One of the most interesting aspects of Coded was the flashbacks to things from KH1 that Sora hadn't been present for (Riku meeting Ansem, Riku and Kairi on Big Ben, etc). I'm hoping that we get more things like that which will further help to connect the mysteries of the series leading up to DDD.
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I'm still curious how they're going to integrate DDD into the remixes and Kingdom hearts III when it comes out. I feel these extra two hours with new content could hint at it, but if not, I feel they'll probably do an extra feature in Kingdom Hearts III in the main menu that gives insight on a "previously seen in
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I haven`t played Re:Coded, but a scene like this was there? Very interesting. Is it because of this why Riku sees his darkness in Monstro? His dark side could have worn his KH1 outfit, but the Organization XIII cloak makes me think it wasn`t just his mind playing tricks.
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I haven`t played Re:Coded, but a scene like this was there? Very interesting.
There's several scenes like this including Pluto running off into a Dark Corridor and Riku on Neverland Clock Tower with a comatose Kairi.
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I kind of regret now that I haven`t played Re:Coded. I have watched the Castel Oblivion part but it seems I have missed some very interesting moments. I have to ask one more thing about Coded which I have thought for quiet some time now. During Coded Sora learns how to cope with the memories of the tormented ones, right? So in DDD there is this scene with Roxas where he pours all his memories in to Sora`s head. Without the events of Re:Coded would Sora have survive the crushing weight of Roxas painful memories and grief?
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During Coded Sora learns how to cope with the memories of the tormented ones, right? So in DDD there is this scene with Roxas where he pours all his memories in to Sora`s head. Without the events of Re:Coded would Sora have survive the crushing weight of Roxas painful memories and grief?
On the contrary, Sora didn't learn to truly cope with that, as the combined power of the suffering of Naminé, Xion, Roxas and Ventus was what weakened Sora's heart enough so that the fight with Xemnas was ultimatively too much and his heart fell into darkness.
The Data-Naminé warned explicitly about this in Coded:
Naminé: Right, it's not usually possible. When I first found them while repairing your memory, I thought I'd made a mistake.
But all the evidence I found proved they belong in your heart, where they've been sleeping a long...long time. One day, Sora will have to call them to the surface. They're important memories...but very dangerous ones.
Mickey: Dangerous how?
Naminé: These memories are too painful. Handled the wrong way, they could damage Sora's heart--even break it. I needed you to find a way to face that kind of hurt. That's why I left the message.
This is exactly what happened in DDD due to the machinations of Young Xehanort, Xigbar, Ansem SoD and Xemnas, as they knew the same things Naminé does.
The Sora who learned to cope with all this is Data-Sora, not the Sora we know from KH 1 and 2, as Mickey later also says:
Mickey: The bond they all share--that's gonna be the key, right? Don't worry, Naminé. I'll make sure I pass this on to Sora--you know, the one in the outside world!
Mickey did so with writing the letter we see at the end of KH 2, but they didn't truly prepare Sora for the events that went down in DDD, I guess because Yen Sid and Mickey weren't really expecting Xehanort and his cronies to directly interfere with the Mark of Mastery exam and target Sora.
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Oh, it was Data-Sora who learned to cope with the pain! Well that solves that and explains Sora`s downfall. I hope Sora`s encounter with darkness will make him less naive and trusting, but the tea party at the end of DDD dosen`t really promise this. Well, at least it was hilarious. :) Thank you for clearing this up.
On the topic of Coded, I`ve read many comments about it which say that it dosen`t give much to the plot of KH. But now as I learn more and more about it, I`ve begin to question this claim. Now I can see all these interesting ties to other titles, especially to DDD and with the 2.5 version of it, there might be more connections. And the heart growing thing was first teased there if I remember correctly?
Re: New Re:Coded cinematics tie into older titles' mysteries
Oh, it was Data-Sora who learned to cope with the pain! Well that solves that and explains Sora`s downfall. I hope Sora`s encounter with darkness will make him less naive and trusting, but the tea party at the end of DDD dosen`t really promise this. Well, at least it was hilarious. :) Thank you for clearing this up.
On the topic of Coded, I`ve read many comments about it which say that it dosen`t give much to the plot of KH. But now as I learn more and more about it, I`ve begin to question this claim. Now I can see all these interesting ties to other titles, especially to DDD and with the 2.5 version of it, there might be more connections. And the heart growing thing was first teased there if I remember correctly?
Coded is underrated rated imo, because it started out as a cell phone game. The events of that game are more significant than people give it credit for. It's not exactly the most provocative game in the series, but in term of importance, I put it above Days, but below BbS.
The heart growing was first teased in KH2. :)
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| The heart growing was first teased in KH2. :) |
It was? Do you remember where? I haven`t played KH2 in 6 years so my memory of it is pretty hazy. That is why I`m also really looking forward for KH2.5. I just really hope people give these games the credit they deserve and understand the importance to the plot in KH3. A few days back I read some comments relating to KH3 news(I don`t remember the web sites name), and there I saw something really depressing: Someone asked what had happened to the three people in armored suits. I just can`t believe there are still people who think that Birth by Sleep is Kingdom Hearts 3. :( How is that even possible?
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Coded is underrated rated imo, because it started out as a cell phone game. The events of that game are more significant than people give it credit for. It's not exactly the most provocative game in the series, but in term of importance, I put it above Days, but below BbS.
The heart growing was first teased in KH2. :)
It's interesting you hold it above Days, I really fkin hate Xion but I thought the little teasers for BBS in the original such as Xemnas saying "So sleep has taken you yet again" to a comatose Roxas and Xion appearing as Ventus to Xigbar as really interesting parts of the plot. There is a lot of significance in coded, I didn't think there was until I played it through, I just find the game a little boring but all the same it all contributes, even if it aint the real Sora.
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It's interesting you hold it above Days, I really fkin hate Xion but I thought the little teasers for BBS in the original such as Xemnas saying "So sleep has taken you yet again" to a comatose Roxas and Xion appearing as Ventus to Xigbar as really interesting parts of the plot. There is a lot of significance in coded, I didn't think there was until I played it through, I just find the game a little boring but all the same it all contributes, even if it aint the real Sora.
I put Coded above Days because I feel that it contributes to the mythos and KH3 directly a little more. Over all, I found Days to be more self contained with teasers to other characters here and there, but Coded had direct characterization and plot points that I think will effect the story more. Like, it directly brought up the fact that Sora had painful memories of others had had to deal with, Sora having to save the tormented ones and he had in fact had already done so was brought up, Maleficent was made aware of the data
worlds and is trying to conquer it, etc.
They all contribute something, but I just felt that Coded delivered a wee bit more than Days.
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It was? Do you remember where? I haven`t played KH2 in 6 years so my memory of it is pretty hazy. That is why I`m also really looking forward for KH2.5. I just really hope people give these games the credit they deserve and understand the importance to the plot in KH3. A few days back I read some comments relating to KH3 news(I don`t remember the web sites name), and there I saw something really depressing: Someone asked what had happened to the three people in armored suits. I just can`t believe there are still people who think that Birth by Sleep is Kingdom Hearts 3. :( How is that even possible?
Kinda hinted at it in KH2FM with Roxas and Axel's final spiritual chat after the Sora vs. Roxas fight.
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I was already excited for the Coded scenes but this news is very exciting. I can't wait to see what they're about.
I put Coded above Days because I feel that it contributes to the mythos and KH3 directly a little more. Over all, I found Days to be more self contained with teasers to other characters here and there, but Coded had direct characterization and plot points that I think will effect the story more.
I agree. Days does contribute to the overall story but, as you said, it focuses more on just the friendship between RAX and so it feels self contained. Coded covers a lot of different story aspects and I thought it was more fun to play as well (though I suppose that doesn't matter too much with how they are in 1.5 and 2.5 :( ).
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