um so does this mean the rebirth theroy is true?

Not much I can glean from the first half of the trailer (at least until it's properly translated), except to say that that's real nice-lookin' stained glass.

[Edit: Welp, speak of the devil.]

Everyone can have fun with the second half of the trailer, though. I like the way the Yellow Operas and Violet Waltz's have fancier hats, because a Final Fantasy Black Mage always upgrades their hat if they have a promoted form (Black Wizards in FFI, Maguses in FFIII).

The subbed one is up
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It wasn't all that much but worth the wait nevertheless oh man those scythe enemies rocking that Marluxia style look amazing, can't wait to know more about them! The water part looked a bit weird but it is still in production so maybe it'll be fixed. All in all looking so good.

REBITH THEORY AAAAAAH

Is it me or did Kairi's hair get a quite a bit longer and besides that dem environments.

Hercules world looks amazing.Those waterfalls in the back looking great.

I was starting to go away from the video to login here, not realizing it also had KHIII footage in it, and boy am I glad I kept the video going and the sound on, so I could look back down and see the KHIII awesomeness!

OMG! Some of those new attacks look amazing! Absolutely amazing! And those water physics, this is what I'm here for people! OMG!:D

And as for the II.8 trailer, they sure spoiled a lot for Dream Drop Distance, but I can't say I really mind. And that part with Rinzler reaching for Sora's hand still brings about all the feels. The game also seems to be looking gorgeous to me, and I appreciate that they showed some of the ladies in the trailer for DDD;)

II.8... Kairi... she looks so gorgeous! -sobs forever- And I swear that her hair is longer. Yen Sid is also looking pretty hip in the new graphics.

And I'm for sure digging the 3D version stuff for Chi. That one location is looking especially nice. Also... do we have any idea on the Foretllers' VAs yet?:)

All in all, a great night (and Christmas gift), and I hope it'll make the fandom act less jaded now.

Edit: So it seems that we're all in agreement that Kairi's hair is longer, and that the Rebirth theory is true. Wow. Just wow. ASDFGHJKL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There was some nice environmental interaction with soda in the water.

I think KH3's combat looks kinda bad. The enemies have shitty flinch. :p hopefully it'll get better. The graphics look good

yep master spockanort nail riku voice as the unicorn

Personally I think KH3 looks beautiful!
Its still has no release date yet which means theirs still a lot of work to do.
If it looks this nice now, I can't wait to see how gorgeous its going to look as a final product. Game-play looks like its going to be a ton of fun and I just can't get over how nice it looks overall.
So hyped to play all three of these titles!

This was everything I expected and more. 5 and a half minutes was more than enough, I was expecting like 3-3:30 minutes.

II.8 FCP looks gorgeous. Loving that Yen Sid and the Mysterious Tower sky is just gorgeous. Just wish we could have seen more of Aqua.

Back Cover looks exciting, and it's great that Grass' Rebirth theory is true.

KH3 looks excellent like always. Loving the shotlocks and Marluxia's Nobodies. I'm a bit sad that one of the Heartless' doesn't seem to be the Violet Waltz though (but it's certainly not that heartless from Days either lol)

we got to stick that theroy becuase it not going anywhere

Well, that wasn't worth the wait. Disappointing. I was hoping for something new. Feels like Square just said, "Eh, they've gotten over it by now, just throw them the trailer and be done with it."

AFP's intro still irks me. Mickey basically says, "Oh, yeah, I found Aqua but didn't remember her till now! And I didn't try to rescue her either!" Sigh. I'm sure he did but still.

And I still don't share Square's enthusiasm for the lifeless, empty worlds of 3D. Oh boy, no persecuted people to rally around Quasimodo! Only thing I'm in for is The World That Never Was and the Xemnas boss battle. And the last cut scene movie literally put me to sleep.

And they want $50 for this. And no relevant III footage either. Hurry up, 2017, so we'll be another 10 years away from KH3.

Sora in the river was the worst part imo. Best part was probably the new Disney ride. The river part was so poorly animated.

I noticed that KH3's command menu changed color, and that it switched to shortcuts for magic and "Button" for the Shotlock/Flowmotion attacks.

Return to us, Prince

Twilight Town looked fantastic. Absolutely fantastic, graphic and lighting wise. Also, I'm glad to see Shot Lock back and updated - I liked the system a lot, personally. I'm glad we got that look at the Marluxia nobodies in action; the sakura petal effect was nice.

Wish we got more of a look at 0.2, though. And while DDD certainly looks updated, it really does show how empty the game was town-wise.

The way they did the Back Cover cutscenes is intriguing - I wonder if they'll keep that story-book idea, and if we'll see the Chi models or something more updated.

I'm happy I have KHInsider on Facebook. I had to rush back to the forum :)

What's this about summoning Hitler? I doubt he'd be much use in the keyblade war :frown:
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gelandporn

Now that they added in Shotlocks I'm kind of worried about the overwhelming amount of techniques we can use:
-Keyblade Transformations
-Attraction Flow
-Flowmotion
-Shotlocks
-Summons (Most Likely)

I really hope this doesn't end up like BBS where keyblade attacks weren't very viable.

It doesn't necessarily mean the rebirth theory is true they very easily could be just summoned out the tome of prophecy which I think is what actually happened myself. It parallels how the journal is protected from people inside, Data Sora and Data Riku. Here I believe that the master in order to save the world and have suitable guards for the tome of prophecy decided to summoned forth the guardians of light from the tome of prophecy, copies of them specifically like the worlds and people like Snow White are.

Also I think I understand attraction flow now.


Before he summons shooting blaster you see a green menu bar appear with shooting blaster in katakana with 99*6 on it. During regular combat the same color green appears on numbers like 3p and 2p when Sora is hitting hearts. It looks identical to the tech point system so this is my theory.


Tech points are back but instead of experience they are attraction flow points. When you build up enough points then the attraction flow can be activated to expend your points.

there no more denying it that rebirth theroy is true all of it so i guess we got to get used to it

So, that was a pretty dope trailer.

Can someone give me a refresher on what the rebirth theory is. LINK?

What No Drive forms ? ( that Kinda Lame I don't even Like Shot Lock )

-rebirth theory
-shotlocks
-flowmotion
-tech points
-the combat looks better

THANKS SQUIZZLE MY HIZZLES

One thing that disappoints me is the lack of HUD in DFDDD. What are you hiding square?

Pretty let down Trailer for me ( But This what happens When its The BB team doing Kingdom hearts III So I should't be shocked By this News )

Wished the new KH3 showed a bit more then just gameplay footage though I did like the one for 2.8 which actually does show more content. :)

If you guys look closely at the Character icons, they actually change when a battle starts.

What's all this about a rebirth theory? I read the link given, but I'm not quite sure I understand exactly how this trailer near-confirms it. I guess I need to learn more about Chi in order to understand it. I've been out of the swing of things for far too long!

I'm amazed over the trailer, though! And I loved the part where Sora was in the water and got swept along. It might not be refined right now, but I think it would be amazing if the environment actually mattered in how Sora fought.

I love how Goofy just looks so fierce, though! Completely un-Goofy like.

Yep, reading through again, I get it, although I find it amazing that people can even recognize the voices. I've never been that good at it, especially in a different language.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion... but you're not making much of a case for why you think the way you do. It's all fine and well to state an opinion, but why not back it up? What made you hate shotlock so much in BbS and why do you think you'll hate it in KH3? Furthermore, most of these abilities don't seem like they'll be necessary to use, so you can just ignore it if you'd like.

Okay, so, I loved shotlock in BbS... but I also didn't like it. Using a well-timed shotlock often made complicated battles ridiculously easy and I hope that's not the case in KH3, like what happened with the reaction commands in KH2. KH1 still has the distinction of being the hardest game, at least in my opinion, and I want KH3 to try and break that.

While I'm okay with the idea of shotlocks in KH3, I'm disappointed about the attraction flow. It just all looks too gimmicky and like a different version of the reaction commands from KH2 and I'm wondering what real-world application it will have in the game. It could easily become overpowered and make things too easy, again, like the shotlocks.

i'm still hoping that they will ditch the cg character battle icons and return to the illustrated versions again. they just have a certain charm.

Why do you look so weird treasure? I'm chalking this up to the angle...

So anguis and vulpeous are female?

So I wonder what is the story with Sora using two different magic spells? One was a fireball another a fire pillar that covered him whlie the shortcut only said fire on it.

well it good to know i been working with past kairi lol :)

If mickey once met aqua in the realm of darkness, why the fuck is she still there!

This bbs2, blabbing Bullshit story, will explain why mickey just left her there, femanons will say she didn't want to get saved by a man

Why oh why didn't mickey save aqua

Shotlocks? In my KH3? It's more likely than you think.

No but on a serious note, I'm 100% starting to believe 2.8 Aqua has no face and the entire demo will only be her from behind and all cutscenes will be "stylized" to where we never see her face and it will be a running gag throughout the rest of the series. Rip HD Aqua face hopes and dreams.

When I heard the chi parts, omg. I knew the theory was right because the voices sounded very, very similar. Although I wish we could have seen the character designs as well.

DDD looks fabulous, as always. KH3 looks cool too. I'd like to see some more of it in action with the actual menu, however. Also, I love how one of the YouTube comments said this game has been in development for 13 years. And they were being serious. I just. Omfg. I cannot even

Kh news = time for everyone to be passive aggressive

I didn't notice, is there a release date?

Pretty sure everyone will get it in 2016. It's just a matter of if they do an international release or space it out like most of the releases.

Which, honestly, I may end up spoiling myself. Like I did with Days. And BbS. And coded. And 15% of DDD but then stopped myself because I wanted to try and have patience.

It's back to theories, but I did like the kh x cutscenes

The VO guesses online are literally all over the place right now, so I don't even know what to think anymore 8D

It feels like between this footage of KHIII and the last they used someone who is fluent in how the game works and someone who just spams dodge roll 90% of the time while almost never using abilities. I hate that guy.

Two things.

First off, I am blown away by this trailer. I am so happy Square essentially gave us a double-trailer. A 5 minute trailer of two games? Thank you kindly! And I could not believe how good the graphics are looking on the new engine now. Every other point until now, my initial reaction was "Uh... the graphics looks really weird." And finally, this was the first time I saw the game running and thought "Oh wow, this looks absolutely incredible." Seriously KH3 is looking GORGEOUS. I am stunned. And we got Yen Sid looking amazing, Daybreak Town in HD, shotlocks confirmed, the Marluxia-ish enemy thing, all the environments look amazing, etc etc. It's all so great. I was just staring in awe the entire time I first watched it. So good.

Secondly, fuck this fanbase, omg. I cannot believe the amount of complaining and whining I'm seeing on the social media sites. Everyone's disappointed and all "This was all they gave us? There was nothing new." What fucking trailer are they watching? Because nearly all of the KH3 footage was never seen before. Same locations? Yes, but that footage was new and it was fantastic. Ungrateful little shits complaining for a month about this, and then they finally get what they want and all they do is cry. The casual KH fans are so annoying it drives me up the wall. "KH1 and KH2 are the only relevant games, where's the release date, show us the trailers and then oh those trailers sucked, shut up and give us kh3 no one cares about 2.8." God, I just.... aghhh.

I know right, nothing is good enough for these people, that's what your saying right

Hot damn, the new graphics look absolutely beautiful! Wasn't a fan of shotlocks in BBS due to how overpowered they could get, but they look SEXY AS HELL here.
And of course I come back here after a while and see Rebirth theory is a thing along with Tech points being shown. You guys are insane, haha.

Oh, 2.8 trailer also got me squeeing. Never knew how happy I'd feel seeing DDD again despite how contrived it got, and that on top of full HD scenes of 0.2BBS was more than enough ;v;

I keep reminding myself that it will look a ton better in the final product. I mean, it looks gorgeous, but Yen Sid does look a little like plastic and oh my god, Mickey's ears! They look like paper. But other than that, I'm very happy. Hell, I finally broke down and asked for a ps4 for Xmas because of 2.8, so... I was all set to wait until there was an actual release date for KH3, because surely by then it would go down in price. But nope, yet again, Squeenix is squeezing my wallet dry and forcing me into another console purchase.

Boy, my 7 guardians theory was WAY off.

*chokes on drink*

Weeell, I guess it would be possible to summon Hitler. Donald Duck was in a short that involved the Nazis, wasn't he? I think they could exist... sort of..

Waking up and seeing this trailer was so awesome. The trailer itself was awesome!!
BTW Shotlocks confirmed. And did you guys notice, that the Menu changes when Sora is attacking the Nobodies?
Like, it goes from EX3 -> Max. Everything is a little bit zoomed out and there is a color change. It went from blue to brown/yellow-ish.

EDIT
I really think the part with the Nobodies is more developed. Like, I noticed something else.
See the running animation in Rapunzel's world with the blue Menu. He runs like an idiot. Sorry. It looks like shit.

And then, when the changes come, he runs like in KH II -- holding his Keyblade in both hands.

I'm really appreciating the amount of detail and textures in the game/footage, like the ground in Yensid's office, Aqua's hair, plant life in Tangled, and the sky in Mysterious Tower. HYPE

Also, I read the rebirth theory but can't remember, was part of it that these foretellers would become some of the 13 darknesses or was that a separate theory. Because, like, that theory made a lot of sense but I can't even believe that it might be canon. I don't know a whole lot about Chi though outside of that theory.

I'm not entirely sold on the Rebirth Theory just because the Foretellers have the same voice actors. If that indeed turns out to be the case, then we potentially have a never ending cycle with no true death. Birth by Sleep will have an entirely different meaning.

I mean to say if they are the past versions of the characters then there was no reason for the master to go to such lengths to hide their identities. He gave them new names and instructions on keeping their faces hidden. He clearly doesn't want anyone to know their actual identities which means something about their identity would be a give away to people IN-story not just out of story.

I mean even more so this series is not about Death that's something Nomura had said. That's why we have this developed mythos but have completely skipped over death. They either never talk about death when people die or it's not "true death" it's sleep, vanish, split, etc... they literally jump through hoop after hoop to never acknowledge real death. Reincarnation would break that because that would be something they have to explore and I just don't see that happening. Especially given Nomura's track record who if he can make a clone of someone and get away with it he will.

I really hope that when it comes down to it they hire Hayden for Kairi and Alyson for Xion. I know that Xion is meant to share Kairi's voice but I just feel like it'd only be right for both voice actresses to get a role.

Well, this trailer has been one big adventure.

Yen Sid looks pretty damn cool, I have to say. Riku and Kairi still look a little odd to me in the 0.2 segment, but I just assume that's down to the lighting, at this point; they don't quite look like they're meant to be in the same room. Mickey looks much better once he starts talking, though, so I imagine that the same will happen for Riku and Kairi, too. And I love the sheer attention to detail throughout the entire room; the cracks and scuffs on the walls and pots, the uneven texture of the stony floor, the sea of stars, and the screws holding the fabric onto Yen Sid's chair... the team have certainly gone out of their way to make it feel like an actual environment. The same can be said for the room being panned over for the Back Cover segment, which I find very interesting; I don't know much about Chi, and am waiting for Unchained to move west before I play it, but that's just because I don't want to have to use translation guides and jump through hoops to understand and play a game.

There's not as much to say about 3DHD, other than that it looks considerably prettier; they've definitely gone out of their way to improve the textures, which I can appreciate. Some of the models look a bit better, as well.

And then, of course, we have the juiciest part, which is the KHIII segment. The more I see it, the better it gets; I love watching Sora run around, Dodge Rolling, using magic and taking on enemies. It looks like they've given him additional field abilities, one of which looks a bit like Doubleflight. The environments are gorgeous, and the enemies all have a distinct look to them. Also, I'm so happy they brought back the Elemental enemies from the original game; as much of a pain as they were to fight back then because KH1's aerial combat was a bit iffy, I liked them a lot. The potential return of Tech is another huge plus, too! Sora's attacks look very fluid, but I hope that basic attacks function as they did in previous games - with Sora starting off with basic three-hit combos, and gradually gaining Abilities that increase the number of hits and allow for new types of attacks to be unleashed as the player progresses. I want to earn the right to use flashy combos, rather than just be given them right off the bat.
The return of Shotlocks... I'm not sure how I feel about that. They looked fine in the trailer, and never had much of a problem with them in Birth by Sleep, either. I just don't want them to be a mechanic that winds up being far stronger than basic attacks, and supersedes/makes them superfluous them as a result.
Oh, and also... does anyone else think that Sora's out-of-battle run is a bit too fast? It's the kind of run that says "Oh God, I can't miss the train, nonono!". It's not any sort of deal-breaker, obviously, but simply a insignificant nit-pick that I spotted.

As for this Rebirth theory... I don't particularly want to pay any mind to it. That's no offense to anyone who does, of course, or to the person who originally wrote it - I've read it several times, and think it's a good theory. But I'd rather not go putting all my eggs in one basket just because a bunch of voices sound the same as someone else's. If it turns out to be correct when official materials come to light that confirm such, then that's that. And if not, that's that too. I'd prefer not to go over-analyzing something we know so little about, and running around in a panic thinking that it's true purely based on voices. Theories, after all, are called such for a reason.

Poor Mickey, what have they done to your mouth?

Man, those models and the shading on those models isn't doing it for me at all. I thought my concern would be an early-dev concern, but I see no progress being made on that department. During battle everything looks fine, but the close-ups really take me out of it because of how the models look.

I liked the interaction between Sora and the environment, but that part in the waterfall didn't look all that good. Besides the weird animation loop, I'm guessing you can't control Sora in the river stream until he's landed at the bottom of the river again. Meaning: fall into it and you can't do shit about it, while enemies can probably still hit you. A potential game-breaking mechanic, if you ask me. Or at least a very annoying one). The lack of obvious flinching on the enemies' side also quite concerns me. I want to able to feel my hits. It's one of my concerns for Final Fantasy XV as well. I did notice an improvement on the animation when Sora enters the area with Rapunzel's Tower (there was a "stutter" in Sora's movement during that scene in the E3 trailer, which is now gone).

I liked the Shotlock and especially the way it looked. One thing they've really nailed in KH3 so far, are the particle effects. They look amazing. That and the environments that, for the most part, look gorgeous. There's already a lot going on gameplay-wise, though, so I hope they can mantain some sort of balance, because it looks quite overwhelming with all the mechanics showcased so far. It's gonna be a tough cookie balancing it out properly and making it feel as fluid as it should feel.

But yeah, I have some big concerns about the model-work and the animations. Hopefully by the next trailer we can see some progress on that end.

I just noticed that REVENGE VALUE is back.
I am so happy about that right now.

EDIT

I saw these in a video, and I don't know what to think about the heartless now...
Heartless #1
Heartless #2

D

That was interesting. I think one my biggest concern about III`s combat is the same thing that others have brought up, the flinching of enemies. Some of the enemies don`t flinch at all, and just suck up you hits. Some of the swings of the Keyblade aren`t enough heavy looking. I think the hits had a good balance with the trailer we had two years ago, but well maybe things when the game is developed further, and I still enjoyed DDD very much even thou the flinching was a bit off. Despite some of my concerns, the combat looks really cool. The areas are not flat and I am really liking that.

Some of the models still look little too plastic, but I think this is because the game is still being made.
When in 2.8 they zoomed to Riku and Kairi, in a way it shows how much we have progressed from the PS2 days. The models need some work, but I am still liking what I am seeing. Kairi and Riku looked like two breathing living persons. Little sad that we did not see Aqua gameplay or her face.

Back Cover looks very interesting. I am not sure how I feel about the Rebirth thing. At the same time it seems cool, but I feel like I have been spoiled now, but that is the fault of my own curiosity. I don`t know... I kinda hope it is not true, but that won`t ruin the game for me.

The visuals look freaking amazing! Like other have noticed there is a lot of detail in the game. To me that is a sign that the developers are really putting their heart and soul into the game, and that makes me very glad. All thou this has always been the case with KH games, so why change now. Yen Sid`s tower, my god that looked great.

So in a nutshell I could say that there are things that worry me a little, but there is a lot of stuff that I like.

Dean did a good job once again. Man there was a lot of interesting and good stuff that I missed. Looking good.

EDIT: Oh sorry for double post, my mistake :(

I just can't get over how fluid Sora's battle style is. Between magic, combos, and well combos utilizing magic. Free flow, attraction flow, and shotlock. All these special effects between Sora and enemies among the beautiful environment. Some might say there wasn't much added with the new trailer, but I see many small details which impressed me. Gorgeous!

I do find the plastic appearance to be slightly off-putting, but not so much that I can't enjoy it. It will grow on me, no problem. I haven't much knowledge with Chi and their stories, but I'm liking what this rebirth theory is all about. Everything is connected, our hearts are connected, blah blah blah. Sorry, I'm just really psyched for 2.8 and 3.

So the voices of the 5 foretellers that speak while the camera is revolving around the platform are the same as Riku, Aqua, Terra, Kairi and Ven but the last one to speak was who? A new voice?

Kamehameha!

OhmyGlobohmyGlobohmyGlob!

-Yes Sid looks fantastic!
-Mickey had botax along with his facelift.
-Riku and Kairi still look unfinished.
-Show yo face already, Aqua! I can't take it anymore!!
-REBIRTH THEORY AGAGABLGGFHG!!
-The Marluxia Nobody is so pretty!
-SHOTLOCK!
-Stupid river! *shakes fist at river*
-Mysterious Tower's everything is beautiful!

Lunafreya
Huh well there you go.




Don't like how it just snaps between the two though.

Lunafreya


Why do you look so weird treasure? I'm chalking this up to the angle...

MATGSY

Boy, my 7 guardians theory was WAY off.

Even though it's only Yen Sid, it's so cool to see a human Disney character with the new graphics! My biggest worry was that they would look out of place with the main and FF characters, but judging from him, they don't! I love how the engine makes things look more realistic but still cartoony at the same time! Looks PERFECT!

Omg the environments look fantastic. I was especially living for how fleshed out Mysterious Tower looks. 8D

I'm not too worried since the game is still in development, but the characters, particularly in the opening sequence with Riku, Mickey, Kairi and Yen Sid look just plain gaudy to me. Think rubber figures a la Gumby. Judging by how Sora and the gang look in comparison, I'd say they're still working on the models? Hopefully.

Or perhaps my eyes wil just have to adjust...

I'm still trying to grasp the fact that KINGDOM HEARTS HD 2.8 FINAL CHAPTER PROLOGUE is an actual thing rofl.

So I've never been around the community for the release of a game before, so I'm not sure how this works.

Relative to 2.8...I guess I would think that if they were aiming for a 2016 release (even a Q4 release) that we would have more information at this point than we do. Am I wrong in thinking that? If that's the case, what are the chances that 2.8 gets pushed back to 2017?

Did Yen Sid have a vacation in Spain...?
The characters still look weird to me...Like puppets. OHHH. :p

Wish they showed more of those melee attacks with the cannon keyblade transformation.

the game definitely looked better on luminous, but the weird thing about it so far is that, idk. the models do look really rough, and part of me thinks it is just the new art style and they aren't actually going to change it much (i mean they clearly think it looks good enough to share with the world as representative of the game) which would suck. but then i think back to the xehanort/eraqus conversation which i think we all mostly agree looks great so it's like, what is it. why do all of the other models/cutscenes not look as good as that one?

I feel like I'm in the minority that is fine with everyone's models (mostly) except for Eraqus and Lil X.

This'd be so better

Pardon my ignorance, but do we know the world/area Sora is fighting in with the tower and waterfall?

Also, the scene with Riku awakening Sora's heart is new right? or is it old?

I am happy we got this trailer. It also seems like I need to replay DDD.

They look more and more like moving action figures with each trailer :/

honestly, while i definitely think it can and should be improved, the more i look at it the more and more it blends in more and doesn't look nearly as jarring and awful as it does on first glance. if they aren't made better by release, i could see myself coming accustom to it early on in the game when playing at least :/

Darn. Was hoping they'd share a few keyblade transformation bread crumbs. Better luck next time I suppose.

I think the reason the yen Sid scene looks weird is the lighting. Cause sora looks great in the KH3 part. The room might have weird lighting

the environments are incredibly detailed and look lovely, but does anyone else kind of feel like they are falling short of their original goal with kh3?



like nomura said with the decided art style they wanted to go back to the series' roots as being imagined as like exquisite hand-painted brush work illustrations like a moving disney illustration. and you definitely see that in the announcement trailer. like the there is a lot of detail, sure, but it still has that painterly aesthetic. the bridge isn't hyper realistic for example. the colours all pop and are strong.

meanwhile in the footage we've seen, it seems like it is all trending more to hyper-realistic type depictions. the environments are so incredibly detailed and they pop, but they don't exactly look like illustrations anymore. they look like a detailed fantasy world. i'm wondering if this is part of the reason why the models feel so incongruent to the rest of the game. like the models are still the less detailed brush work type models like sora is above (tho to be fair, still pretty rough) but the rest of the environments no longer match it like sora matches destiny islands in the above image. idk. just something i found myself thinking about. there isn't a balance between the models and the environment and i think it's because they are leaning more to realistic environments instead of the painted illustrations they original set out as. what do you guys think? am i just totally off base and you feel the environments are living up to the painted brush work goal?

The Xehanort/Eraqus scene is much closer to the KH announcement trailer than pretty much anything else recent we've seen.

I suppose Back Cover, with the clocktower study is close too.

The style wasn't perfect with Xehanort or Eraqus either. Did you see their hair?



I still think them developing this style is why we've seen so little. There was an interview where they said they didn't show disney characters because they wanted to be happy with their look. We've got some ways to go, everyone, I think they'll find the right balance.

i dont know, the way they are doing the hair there is pretty close to how they did it in the announcement trailer.




i hope it keeps improving anyway and gets closer to the announcement trailer. it's just weird because it seems like the environments of the worlds are pretty decided upon but you see a variance of styles there too, i feel. like The Mysterious Tower, Twilight Town, Tangled, etc. all seem very different from the announcement trailer, the Xehanort conversation, and the Back Cover study :/

I mean, keep in mind, this could be intentional. The mysterious Kingdom Shader may be to blame in the odd shading in Yen Sid's tower, or stylistic choices in some cases, Aqua's hair is rendered more or less the same as Sora's, afterall.

all of this is still in development. but square is also comfortable with releasing this stuff to the public as being representative of the game. there is a chance they think all the models look perfectly fine lol.

I really just hope we won't get any downgrades of the models - but I'm sure SE wouldn't be as dumb. I trust 'em. They know how much this game means to us all (at least I think so, lol).

well it's a lot less than three years. 2.8 is coming next year, which basically means they have to finalize the art style for kh3 by then. at least i imagine they would. it'd be weird for them to have kh3 looking so much different from their big kh3 engine demos (BC and 0.2)

The announcement trailer was on a different engine and was target render for that engine. I don't think it's fair to compare the two and say one is trying to reach the other when they seem to have settled on a unique look now for KH3.

That's not saying that they won't work on the character models, I'm just saying don't expect the announcement trailer to be the target for what they're trying to achieve.

Donald looks great in the field though.

I think this game is a holiday 2018 game US and 2.8 comes out next fall as much as I don't want to admit it. They've got a long ways to go. Just my guess for the time being.

i dont think so i think it holiday 2016 for 2.8 and holiday 2017 for kh 3

Yeah, the one game a year thing was just a target goal, not a promised deal. We just got lucky and they've managed to release a new game every year since Nomura said that.

It shouldn't be expected.

I feel like the only one who thinks Riku, Kairi, and Yen Sid look pretty good once you get over the animation change. Especially Yen Sid, he reminds me of his look in Epic Mickey. Mickey himself on the other hand....

Hmm, I remember that in E3 Yause explained that the Dandelion Heartless would just generate new enemies if you would use physical attacks against it, and in this trailer it seems that Sora`s Keyblades hits don`t really bother it. When Sora uses a spell thou, it seems to take bigger hit. Interesting.
It is little like some enemies in KH2 that can only be damaged by magic, and little like Bunny Dream Eater enemies in the last world, where you sometimes have to use magic to break their guard.

I play kingdom HeartsDreamDropDisances and kingdom hearts 2 and menories can,t wait for the prequel chapter I played the prequel

can,t wait for KH3 by all means its in my name

0.2 be like

mickey: give me a beat yen sid, imma tell a story