UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
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- Published on October 17, 2013 @ 11:47 pm
- Written by Arielle
Teruzane Utada, music producer, manager, and father of Hikaru Utada, made a tweet earlier today in response to a fan question about Hikaru Utada returning to work on the theme song for Kingdom Hearts III. His response was a simple "Yes".
In an interview with JETANNY in 2009, Teruzane Utada said they rejected Disney's offer due to them paying little for the work that was being put into each song made for the Kingdom Hearts series. Hikaru Utada further explained that it was hard working with melodies made for the Japanese lyrics she wrote, then changing them into English. The iconic Japanese pop singer felt that it ruined the intergity of her work.
It was not long after that interview that Hikaru Utada announced in 2010 she would be going on a hiatus from music starting 2011, citing that she wanted some time to travel the world and learn a bit more about herself. Since that time, she has only worked on one new song for the 2012 film Evangelion 3.0: You Can (Not) Redo, "Sakura Nagashi", then in 2013 began her radio show "Kuma Power Hour".
While Teruzane Utada said yes to the answer fans have been waiting for an answer to, it is still early in Kingdom Hearts III's development to know what the future will hold.
Edit: According to a recent tweet from Teruzane Utada, it appears that the "yes" was just a misunderstanding and Hikaru Utada's future with the series is undecided.
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Awesome. It wouldn't have been complete without her.
Plus we finally get something new other than the other two. I hope she goes all out with a r&b ballad.
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GET HYPE EVERYBODY
I think I screamed when I read the title, but I'm not sure because I can't hear anything now. Probably deaf from all the screaming.
HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I AM DYING. HELP. juj
nnng!
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KEEP IN MIND IT WAS JUST HER DAD THAT SAID IT BUT HE MANAGES ALL OF HER STUFF SO UM...
(also remember he was the one who said no to Disney the last time 8D)
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UNINTELLIGIBLE GIRLISH SCREAMING
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DADDY KNOWS BEST!
I AM VERY HAPPY NOW! Here's to hoping she makes something as awesome as Sanctuary.
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YES! That's a big relief, I was afraid we'd have to live without her
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i think kingdom hearts 3 will be her last one for so that everything comes full circle and they can have clean state for the next saga don't you guys think so?
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Considering there has ever been two songs from Hikaru and further works done on those songs by Shimomura, I am a bit hesitant on what...Oh, screw it. Hikaru is coming back!!
Which also means a very likely orchestral piece done as well. I can't wait to hear both. I suppose I could be crazy to say I would prefer to hear them when the game releases rather than future trailers, but it'll be great either way.
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KEEP IN MIND IT WAS JUST HER DAD THAT SAID IT BUT HE MANAGES ALL OF HER STUFF SO UM...
(also remember he was the one who said no to Disney the last time 8D)
DON'T TELL US TO GET HYPE AND THEN SMOTHER IT! THAT'S NOT HOW YOU GET HYPE!
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It's been too long sing the magicianry of KH & Utada intertwining like the destinies from a shared Paopu. It's time for another bite. <3
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Thank you! I needed her to return! This is amazing! Does anyone know how she feels about the Kingdom Hearts series?
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OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!
*ahem* About damn time we get a new song (assuming she'll write a new one, but it's obvious, for what other purpose would they contract her, to voice act?).
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OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!OHMYGOSHNEWSONG!
*ahem* About damn time we get a new song (assuming she'll write a new one, but it's obvious, for what other purpose would they contract her, to voice act?).
Utada is actually a god in the Kingdom Hearts universe lol.
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utada is back? great, for a while i didnt think she would come back. while i was kind of looking forward to another singer doing the theme song for kh3 in case utada didnt come back, im still glad she is returning
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Oh thank you lord, now we can stop worrying about it.
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My already extraordinary hype for KH3 has increased tenfold this past week! Great to see Utada is coming back!!!!!!!
SO MUCH HYPE!!!!!!!!!!
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There is a goddess and her name is Utada.
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Eh, when I saw the title, I read it as Shimomura returning for KH3. I was like, hasn't it been confirmed? But I was wrong.
And I was glad.
Holy mother of Mew, heck freakin' yes. Not that I don't like Hikari and Passion or S&C and Sanctuary, but the series needs a new theme song. KH3 is a major title after all, and there's no way they're going to simply go with previous ones, right?
I'm glad that it is Utada who will be performing again. Aw, yes.
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Hikki <3
Everybody, don't ever let anybody tell you dreams don't come true because they do. Also "no" is never forever.
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Glad to have her back! Wouldn't have felt like a full blown numbered title without a new song from Utada.
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would her final distance song would sound good for kingdom hearts 3 or make new original song for kingdom hearts 3?
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Its been like 8 years I m sure she not mad anymore, plus Kingdom Hearts Themes songs are a big part of her career, Im sure she wont let them give it to someone else
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would her final distance song would sound good for kingdom hearts 3 or make new original song for kingdom hearts 3?
No. Final Distance would have been good for KH3D lol. Not for KH3. ALL NEW SONG HYPE TRAIN~
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YES! TOTALLY HYPED RIGHT NOW! 8D
I hope we get something new from her! It wouldn't be the same without her in KHIII.
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While i personally would have preferred if they got someone else this time around for variety's sake, still good to hear she'll return with a new theme regardless.
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No. Final Distance would have been good for KH3D lol. Not for KH3. ALL NEW SONG HYPE TRAIN~
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No. Final Distance would have been good for KH3D lol. Not for KH3. ALL NEW SONG HYPE TRAIN~
i agree i hope she can make it the best song ever to boy what a week for kingdom hearts huh hype train all abroad
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My third train ride for the week.
If there's a fourth, I'd die of pure joy.
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My third train ride for the week.
If there's a fourth, I'd die of pure joy.
Jump Festa will undoubtedly offer us another several rides on the hype train. If there's not a fourth this week, you won't have to wait very long to die of joy.
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Are we sure it's going to be a new song? It could just be him saying he's willing to license Hikari/simple and clean/Passion/Sanctuary again.
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Are we sure it's going to be a new song? It could just be him saying he's willing to license Hikari/simple and clean/Passion/Sanctuary again.
LOL if it were that, he wouldn't have said yes and said "no" or not replied at all since they've license the songs for every damn game released since KH2 without saying a word or caring.
No way is SE licensing those songs for their biggest nextgen release when they are old.
New numbered game, new song.
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Great news, it wouldn't be the same without her.
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Not gonna lie... I didn't see this coming. At least, not this soon. I didn't think we'd get a confirmation until near the game's completion.
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OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG! Gah! I can't take this! Words are failing me!
Is it weird I'm even more excited about this than the II.5 and III trailers?! I think it's because we knew those were happening eventually, but this was still up in the air, and now- Now I can die happy. O
MG. It's going to be great to hear another new song from Utada. Not that I don't love the others, BUT KHIII NEEDS TO BE EVERYTHING IT CAN BE, OKAY?!
Anyway, I'm hoping the song is "Final Distance"-y or "Beautiful World" like. I also wouldn't mind something in the vain of "This One (Crying Like a Child)", or hell: even something like the super repetitive (but awesome!) "Apple and Cinnamon" would be fine by me. Anything she does is just going to be amazing, okay?! And now I need to go listen to UH tracks this instant!
Also, if Disney channel doesn't advertise the perfection that's going to be KHIII, I'll eat my shoe. They should advertise II.5 (really they should have advertised for I.5, but they can allude to that in a II.5 commercial), and then advertise III.
Yeah...
Buying a million tickets for the hype train, guys.
-Shanna
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Does anyone know her thoughts on the Kingdom Hearts franchise?
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Not gonna lie... I didn't see this coming. At least, not this soon. I didn't think we'd get a confirmation until near the game's completion.
You were the one who said "Utada isn't a big part of the series" in that one thread...8D
Yeah, same. I wonder if Teruzane spilled the beans too soon...Whatever. This is really good press for Disney and SE regardless if it was supposed to be said now or later, and I'd say considering what Utada has been going through for the last few weeks, the warm regards from fans should be nice... :c
Is it weird I'm even more excited about this than the II.5 and III trailers?! I think it's because we knew those were happening eventually, but this was still up in the air, and now- Now I can die happy. O
MG. It's going to be great to hear another new song from Utada. Not that I don't love the others, BUT KHIII NEEDS TO BE EVERYTHING IT CAN BE, OKAY?!
No, it isn't weird at all (because honestly this news is way more exciting to me as well because I love her music xD)
KH3 does need to be everything it can be. A new song from Utada is just another HUGE cherry on-top of the icing considering they are doing what they can to bring please the fans.
| Also, if Disney channel doesn't advertise the perfection that's going to be KHIII, I'll eat my shoe. They should advertise II.5 (really they should have advertised for I.5, but they can allude to that in a II.5 commercial), and then advertise III. |
THEY DIDDLY BETTER. KH3 deserves all of the promotion.
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Yay I'm glad Utada is finally returning to create a theme song for Kingdom Hearts 3. I was a bit worried about her leaving.
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what a week for kingdom hearts huh first 2.5 was anouces the we get new teaser for kingdom hearts 3 now we get that utada coming back to do a new theme song what next normura annouces a anime lol the hype train going jump fiesta keeps geting better
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what a week for kingdom hearts huh first 2.5 was anouces the we get new teaser for kingdom hearts 3 now we get that utada coming back to do a new theme song what next normura annouces a anime lol the hype train going jump fiesta keeps geting better
The only thing that can keep this ball rolling is a new world. After that they can go silent for two years and I'd be set for forever.
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I am actually satiated by this news alone. There's no way it won't be a new song. It's just all coming full circle. Bless you, Utada. ;A;
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OMG, I'm happy about this! :D So glad to know she will be returning. Part of the Kingdom Hearts essence for me has always been her themes. Ever since I first played KH1, I've anticipated her songs accompanying the intro and credits, cuz they always (for me, anyway) amplify the emotions of the games. This new song will be amazing I'm sure, cuz it will play on both the new cg intro, and the credits. KH3's credits will definitely bring many a tear to peoples eyes, because they will be the credits for the entire saga, and her music will only make it more beautiful.^^
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The only thing that can keep this ball rolling is a new world. After that they can go silent for two years and I'd be set for forever.
a new world be awesome how about the cover art for kh3 and the cover art would e like the kh but at keyblade graveyard with the moon shinning bright or how about even long long shot a release year
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a new world be awesome how about the cover art for kh3 and the cover art would e like the kh but at keyblade graveyard with the moon shinning bright or how about even long long shot a release year
No way they'd show cover art this early on lol. And it is way too early in dev for a release date. They probably have their own set, but telling anything now would be like trying to start the Versus XIII dilemma all over again.
On a level this news makes sense, mainly because they (being Disney and SE) start making the appropriate calls to everybody they need for the development of the game early on.
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On a level this news makes sense, mainly because they (being Disney and SE) start making the appropriate calls to everybody they need for the development of the game.
i tell you one thing nomura and company is pulling all the stops to make this game not only the best kh game ever but also best game ever i appulad them
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i tell you one thing nomura and company is pulling all the stops to make this game not only the best kh game everbut also best game ever i appulad them
Definitely. I'm really excited! The next few years will be very interesting at the very least xD
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YESSS, SO MUCH FREAKING YES
THE HYPE TRAIN IS FLYING NOW, MEN
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I need a tease art cover page of somekind, like the gave us for kh3d to hold us over
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I need a tease art cover page of somekind, like the gave us for kh3d to hold us over
You mean key artwork? Pretty sure Nomura has some in wait, but can't show until they reveal the new outfits.
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Unless that new keyart is where they show the new outfits like with KH3D!
Killing two birds with one stone~
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It's just so surreal. For years I've gone on associating Simple & Clean and Sanctuary to Kingdom Hearts, it's so weird to think that there's a new theme coming in the future... like I have no idea what to expect! This is just such amazing news!
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;A; Nomura, release more things to us. We're cryin' here.
(Also please let it have many painting mistakes I'll forever love that messy paint job Nomura did on KH3D before he went back and cleaned it)
It's just so surreal. For years I've gone on associating Simple & Clean and Sanctuary to Kingdom Hearts, it's so weird to think that there's a new theme coming in the future... like I have no idea what to expect! This is just such amazing news!
It is starting to feel like the KH2 days where everything was super new and unexpected
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So for jump festa should we expect more, honestly i could be satiated for a year on all that we have so far.
I dont expect to here Utada voice until tgs on 2014, but mabey we will get snippets
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I hope she's doing ok, considering recent events.
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So for jump festa should we expect more, honestly i could be satiated for a year on all that we have so far.
I dont expect to here Utada voice until tgs on 2014, but mabey we will get snippets
Well she has to actually write the song(s) first. xD Then Shimomura has make an orchestrated version.
I'm going to go look up how they did this stuff in the past...
I hope she's doing ok, considering recent events.
On her twitter she posted some words about it a few days ago. She's still mourning, but she doesn't want to let that get her down.
After that she's been hyping her radio show with the cutest art and tweets.
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I'm happy, but I'm also sad they never got around to doing the mash up of Simple and Clean/Sanctuary.
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The day we hear the new KH3 song:
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The day we hear the new KH3 song:
I can practically imagine e3 '14: it's SE turn to present, they turn off the lights and we can listen to a new song from Utada Hikaru used as KH3's main song and then a trailer displays from three different monitors (a big one in the middle and smaller ones adjacent to it) with tidbits of cutscenes and gameplay. :XXXXXXXXX
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I caaaaaaaalled it.
Man this is such great news
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Hopefully the English version will get better production treatment than Sanctuary did. I love Sanctuary and all, but you can tell that they half-assed the production compared to Passion. Either way, Hikki is my favourite artist, so I can't wait to hear some new material!
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Hopefully the English version will get better production treatment than Sanctuary did. I love Sanctuary and all, but you can tell that they half-assed the production compared to Passion. Either way, Hikki is my favourite artist, so I can't wait to hear some new material!
. . .
Hikki?
.-.
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. . .
Hikki?
.-.
Hikki is Utada's nickname. Has been so for over ten years.
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My life is complete.
I'm seriously so happy with Kingdom Hearts III right now. AND IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A RELEASE DATE YET.
All of the feels. KHIII has the old KH magic back in it...I can feel it.
THANK YOU UTADA HIKARU. *SOBS UNCONTROLLABLY*
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Hopefully the English version will get better production treatment than Sanctuary did. I love Sanctuary and all, but you can tell that they half-assed the production compared to Passion. Either way, Hikki is my favourite artist, so I can't wait to hear some new material!
Definitely. I really don't like Sanctuary compared to Passion because it was missing so much that Passion had. Mainly passion xD
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Best news ever, a KH game without Utada is not a KH game.
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yay! More Kingdom Hearts music to download! :3
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This is my favorite thread on anything ever. I don't even. What.
I mean, I was always confident she would come back. But after her mom passed away, with the way the paparazzi have been behaving (fuck them all, seriously), I thought she'd want to keep out of the news and lay low for a while. I was even more afraid that this whole series of events might have damaged her relationship with the mass media and prolong her hiatus. And yes, this is very early in development and there's no telling what might come of this news, but still. STILL.
:'D I am so happy.
Just think. We're going to get a KH3 trailer with a new Utada song behind it. We're going to get a new orchestral version of that song. MAXIMUM HYPE LEVEL ATTAINED
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UNINTELLIGIBLE GIRLISH SCREAMING
LOUD! NOISES!
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I wasn't even hoping for something like this cause I thought it would never happen. But I'm so happy Utada's back on the track (pun unintended). Now there is a perfect consistency in having a new song per numbered title :D
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Ha, wonder how they pulled that one off.
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Ha, wonder how they pulled that one off.
Disney probably mentioned that this was the big one, and fans are eager to see her return. And maybe some Nomura comments thrown in. Teruzane and Utada probably talked it over. Pretty much.
We'll see what happens in the coming months.
This is my favorite thread on anything ever. I don't even. What.
I knew you'd be excited c:
| I mean, I was always confident she would come back. But after her mom passed away, with the way the paparazzi have been behaving (fuck them all, seriously), I thought she'd want to keep out of the news and lay low for a while. I was even more afraid that this whole series of events might have damaged her relationship with the mass media and prolong her hiatus. And yes, this is very early in development and there's no telling what might come of this news, but still. STILL. |
Hopefully this stays fact. And I was also worried about that, but she's been pushing forward. Maybe this could be some positive press to stick it to all of the people trying to perpetuate the slander surrounding her mother's death. Like, really? Let the woman rest and her family mourn.
But yeah! I am hoping this isn't a case of misunderstanding (idk how) and this can be a bit of something good for Utada and her father.
| Just think. We're going to get a KH3 trailer with a new Utada song behind it. We're going to get a new orchestral version of that song. MAXIMUM HYPE LEVEL ATTAINED |
;A; I cry thinking about it.
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That yes...simple and clean
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She said yes!
Also, I don't really know how much the translation could've ruined the integrity of her work. It sounds great!
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Yup music will be awesome no doibt
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She said yes!
Well, her father said yes........
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That yes...simple and clean
^
She said yes!
Also, I don't really know how much the translation could've ruined the integrity of her work. It sounds great!
Her father said yes. His word is pretty much as good as hers considering he is her manager, but until she says yes it isn't her specifically saying it xD
The integrity lies in the fact that the meaning changes between songs. Hikari about a person who finds their "light" in another. Simple & Clean is about two people who love each other but are having problems seeing eye to eye but push that aside to move forward.
Passion is about remembering somebody fondly from the past. Sanctuary is...it's hard to pinpoint exactly the meaning behind it in my opinion. It is about not being whole, but finding the pieces in a precious person.
Clearly a lot of the meaning is lost between the languages in order to fit the melodies. Utada felt it was a distortion of her work because she couldn't make it how it was intended to be enjoyed in another language.
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Awesome! I can't wait to hear the song she writes and can't wait to hear Shimomura's version of it!
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Interesting, I wonder what convinced them (Utada and her dad) to reconsider working for Disney again (or maybe it's Square this time who has them on their payroll?)
Maybe Nomura made a personal appeal to her to return for the finale of the first saga?
In any case it's going to be another masterpiece for sure. ^__^
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This is more exciting than KH3 itself.
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These news are great! Can't think of a new main KH without Hikaru' s voice singing these beautiful melodies into my ears. TOO HYPED!
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Update: Mr. U worded himself wrong. No deal has been made as of yet.
https://twitter.com/u3music/status/391160089890930688
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This is what we get for getting our hopes up.. :frown:
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Update: Mr. U worded himself wrong. No deal has been made as of yet.
https://twitter.com/u3music/status/391160089890930688
That's disappointing. How do you misunderstand "is she coming back for Kingdom Hearts III".
Seems like a case of "Uh oh, Disney/Square Enix just told me I shouldn't have said that. Better cover my tracks". But still, must proceed with caution (OP edited)
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Maybe we should start a campaign.
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Maybe we should start a campaign.
That won't do anything. For now, just let this ride out.
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Im sure they can work out a deal with her, Again KH is a big part of her career, al they have to do is offre her more money
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Im sure they can work out a deal with her, Again KH is a big part of her career, al they have to do is offre her more money
That's really not the case. It's up to her father, the manager of her career. Money won't solve anything right now.
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That's disappointing. How do you misunderstand "is she coming back for Kingdom Hearts III".
Seems like a case of "Uh oh, Disney/Square Enix just told me I shouldn't have said that. Better cover my tracks". But still, must proceed with caution (OP edited)
The way the question was worded, I guess he could have ignored the 3 and just heard; "Are you involved with the Kingdom Hearts theme song?" In which he could just think it was someone asking of her previous work in the series. I don't know, I for one hope it's just Square/Disney cracking down on leaks.
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That's disappointing. How do you misunderstand "is she coming back for Kingdom Hearts III".
Seems like a case of "Uh oh, Disney/Square Enix just told me I shouldn't have said that. Better cover my tracks". But still, must proceed with caution (OP edited)
Agree.
Proceeding with cautious optimism.
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The way the question was worded, I guess he could have ignored the 3 and just heard; "Are you involved with the Kingdom Hearts theme song?" In which he could just think it was someone asking of her previous work in the series. I don't know, I for one hope it's just Square/Disney cracking down on leaks.
It's really, nearly impossible for him to miss the "3". Considering he knows how to speak english (re: the recent tweet) he would have seen the 3 and known what the question was in reference to.
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This is what would be considered a big PR mess and he's smarter than to drop the ball like this.
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This is what would be considered a big PR mess and he's smarter than to drop the ball like this.
Yep, he isn't like Jesse McCartney *laughs*.
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Yep, he isn't like Jesse McCartney *laughs*.
Jesse is a beautiful soul.
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I really glad she's gonna be doing the theme song for KH3. Like almost everyone has said, it just wouldn't be the same without her, but one has to wonder who could possibly get the singing privileges for post-kh3 theme songs. In either case, great to see that she's returning for kh3.
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I really glad she's gonna be doing the theme song for KH3. Like almost everyone has said, it just wouldn't be the same without her, but one has to wonder who could possibly get the singing privileges for post-kh3 theme songs. In either case, great to see that she's returning for kh3.
[/FONT]you must have missed the UPDATE.
Edit: According to a recent tweet from Teruzane Utada, it appears that the "yes" was just a misunderstanding and Hikaru Utada's future with the series is undecided.
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...Is this KH hype I feel? I hope this happens
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Jesse is a beautiful soul.
Yep, and one of the best informants for the fandom regarding when localization for a game starts...:D
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i hope she does return because it not a kh game without her but i understand why she doesn't want to come back from the reasons
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you must have missed the UPDATE.
Edit: According to a recent tweet from Teruzane Utada, it appears that the "yes" was just a misunderstanding and Hikaru Utada's future with the series is undecided.
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Well fuck. And I got hyped up for nothing.
*Goes off to corner and cries*
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Uh-oh. It was too soon to rejoice, it seems. Did the hype train just... stop?
But it's just it's still uncertain whether or not she would lend the KH franchise her talents, right? There isn't any confirmation that she will, indeed, but neither there is confirmation that she won't. There's still hope... but I think we all agree that any news regarding this topic in the future merits caution.
:sigh: I think I'm in denial. Can I get a refund for the ticket I've bought for this train ride?
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Exactly. He's not saying no, which is huge.
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I have to agree with Chaser. I think Square was like "Woah, dude. You can't just hand out hype train tickets like that. Void those tickets right now."
But still, perhaps it really is undecided. But Nomura is a very intelligent man. I think, knowing how high our hopes are and such, the he knows that getting Utada back would be an almost essential component for making KH3 as epic as it possibly can.
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I have to agree with Chaser. I think Square was like "Woah, dude. You can't just hand out hype train tickets like that. Void those tickets right now."
Too late.
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Okay guys, petition time.
Miss Utada needs to understand how much her being involved in KHIII means to us.
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Okay guys, petition time.
Miss Utada needs to understand how much her being involved in KHIII means to us.
I'm sure she's gotten a large enough fan response over the years to know. Don't waste your time on a petition; just wait for an official response.
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*deflates*
welp. Here's hoping it all works out!
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*crying
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The fact he didn't say no is still big considering they said no all those years ago.
I agree with Chaser that they probably just dropped the ball too soon because the question was so clear :c
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if utada does indeed come back should she make a new orginal song or make a mix simple and clean and my santuary?
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if utada does indeed come back should she make a new orginal song or make a mix simple and clean and my santuary?
It's going to be a new song. No way they would rehash Simple and Clean and Sanctuary again, no matter what form it's in.
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And now everything makes sense again.
I didn't think something like this would actually get confirmed this early on.
if utada does indeed come back should she make a new orginal song or make a mix simple and clean and my santuary?
It'd be kind of a waste if they brought her back just to do a remix of one of her old songs when anyone with basic audio editing abilities can do so (and have done so). New song definitely.
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so utada isnt confirmed for kh3? oh well (time to try and find more potential replacements again)
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Do you guys remember when ROEN had Final Fantasy XV on their website (for almost a year and nobody noticed) then the second somebody found it and the news spread, they backtracked and said it was a "misunderstanding"? Then a month later SE re-revealed FF Versus XIII as FFXV? This is how I'm treating it.
so utada isnt confirmed for kh3? oh well (time to try and find more potential replacements again)
Well slow down. Her dad/manager still didn't say no.
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I hope him dropping the ball is the case and we actually get her angelic voice back. I know she works hard on those songs and it takes quite a bit of skill so...here's hoping.
If she does come back we're most likely gonna get a new song or they just wasted quite the opportunity to get people hyped
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I really hope she does end up coming back for KH3. For me her Songs are really a somewhat important part of the series, though this might have to do with the fact that all KH games have had a version of one of her song for the opening and credits. It would feel odd if someone else did the song for KH3. I'm really curious to what a new song from her for KH3 would be.
I really hope that this misunderstanding is just a cover for him honestly answering a question, or that they're at least really considering doing a final song for this saga.
Also I'm really sad to hear that she and her dad are going though such a hard time. It's really terrible what happened to their family.
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lol. Pretty sure one of two things happened here (possibly both):
Like everyone's saying, Square told Teruzane to shush up and take it back.
Utada was like wtf dad! not your choice! and he had to backpedal out of making public commitments for her.
One thing I don't buy is that he misunderstood the question. It's possible, but Teruzane gets floated questions in English all the time and he always answers; he's never "corrected" himself like this. Also, the question was "are you involved," which can mean anything. Perhaps they're in very early discussions-- possibly they've only just been approached-- which Teruzane interpreted as "involved" but which would leave the final decision unmade.
Anyway, Utada will clear this all up herself eventually. She's in total control of her career, and she's very direct with her fans, so she's not going to leave people guessing any longer than she has to.
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*crosses fingers that Hikki will come through....soon*
This doesn't exactly pertain to the topic but with the release of HD II.5 ReMIX, I hope we get assaulted with Passion/Sanctuary. Hikari/Simple & Clean is the theme song that has dominated the most through out many of the installments. I'm one who prefers the KHII theme over the original. Please, please allow gamers/viewers/listeners to be assaulted with Passion/Santcuary. It's time to pull the plug of Hikari/Simple & Clean.
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*crosses fingers that Hikki will come through....soon*
This doesn't exactly pertain to the topic but with the release of HD II.5 ReMIX, I hope we get assaulted with Passion/Sanctuary. Hikari/Simple & Clean is the theme song that has dominated the most through out many of the installments. I'm one who prefers the KHII theme over the original. Please, please allow gamers/viewers/listeners to be assaulted with Passion/Santcuary. It's time to pull the plug of Hikari/Simple & Clean.
They've already used "Passion Orchestral" in the initial trailer for 2.5, and "Passion/Sanctuary" is the standing theme song for KH2 in all its permutations. There's basically zero chance of them rehashing "Hikari/S&C" for this collection.
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They've already used "Passion Orchestral" in the initial trailer for 2.5, and "Passion/Sanctuary" is the standing theme song for KH2 in all its permutations. There's basically zero chance of them rehashing "Hikari/S&C" for this collection.
Yeah, I was talking about the usage of the original theme song in general. Virtually all the sidegames used it as its theme, so it's nice we'll be bombarded with Passion/Sanctuary from this point on. Hence why I said they should pull the plug off Hikari/Simple & Clean and allow the KHII theme to take the spotlight. It's very much needed after being exposed so much to the original theme song.
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Whoo!I hope she DOES return!
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[HR][/HR]Yes! I hope the next new theme song sounds good and is catchy just like the others. I definitely think she should take the opportunity again. Many people will be able to here her voice, it's a no brainer.
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If she does come back, I would doubt her song would live up to her others :] I guess at this point, all we can do is hope X]
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Isn't Simple & Clean for KH:CoM and everything before it (game time chronologically), and Sanctuary for everything 358/Days forward? I always saw Sanctuary as a song dealing directly with the nobodies/Organization XIII.
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Somehow I get the feeling that even if she does make a new song, half the fanbase won't even realize it's her and will make dumb comments like "OMG Who is this hack, we want Utada back!!"
Maybe it's because I started remembering all the comments in KH1.5 HD Remix trailers saying, "OMG how dare they replace Billy Zane's lines with Richard Epcar" when it was clearly still Billy Zane's original recorded lines. And considering that we've only been hearing two songs from her for the past 7 years, it wouldn't surprise me if this happened.
Whether she comes back or not doesn't really matter to me. I just want a new song (or orchestrated Passion, since that song is criminally underused)
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Isn't Simple & Clean for KH:CoM and everything before it (game time chronologically), and Sanctuary for everything 358/Days forward? I always saw Sanctuary as a song dealing directly with the nobodies/Organization XIII.
Not really, actually. DDD uses the orchestrated rendition of S&C, and we know that that game is both after Days and has Organization XIII (albeit the new one) pasted all over its face.
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Isn't Simple & Clean for KH:CoM and everything before it (game time chronologically), and Sanctuary for everything 358/Days forward? I always saw Sanctuary as a song dealing directly with the nobodies/Organization XIII.
That would have been fair. Re:coded uses S&C in it's opening too.
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| Edit: According to a recent tweet from Teruzane Utada, it appears that the "yes" was just a misunderstanding and Hikaru Utada's future with the series is undecided. |
Ha figured it was to good to be true yet.
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Welp... Hope she does come back for KH. Blew my mind with Simple and Clean (So cute and adorable :3) and Sanctuary.
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Aw blast it! I was getting hyped for her return to the Kingdom Hearts series too... Well, if she doesn't return, they can always find others that can fit the bill—her inclusion makes it perfection though, so I hope she does come back. D:
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Well, in my idea, if they can't get a third song from her, they should make a remix of both previous games put together. Haha cause after all, 1+2 does equal 3. XD
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Well, in my idea, if they can't get a third song from her, they should make a remix of both previous games put together. Haha cause after all, 1+2 does equal 3. XD
That'd be so disappointing, though. I'm 1000% done with these songs even though I love them a lot. I don't even really listen to Simple & Clean on my own time because I am worn out.
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If anything I hope she gets to sing with Japanese being the original and only version.
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That'd be so disappointing, though. I'm 1000% done with these songs even though I love them a lot. I don't even really listen to Simple & Clean on my own time because I am worn out.
Oh I agree with you, It definitely has been over done, but with the way music can be constructed recently , they could take these burnt out versions and make something fresh and new out of it. And honestly, I would much rather them do that, then to play the same old version over and over again, with small changes. When I stated 1 + 2 = 3, I meant it symbolically as well, that we get a whole new number, and whole new song, made only out of component pieces of 1 and 2.
But don't get me wrong, I only like this idea because I want it to be something that feels new... if she could construct a whole new song herself, please, haha please do Hikaru Utada.
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If anything I hope she gets to sing with Japanese being the original and only version.
I doubt that Disney would allow that.
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That'd also completely miss the point of why Nomura wanted her and her alone to perform the theme song 11 years ago.
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I think it will benefit everybody if she returns, well... Ima believe she is returning tell i here a bold "No" :wink:
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If not Hikaru, then Yoko. She's a brilliant composer, so I believe she should be next in line in creating a new theme for Kingdom Hearts III. No need to vocals.
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I honestly don't care about her. JPOP is for the most part too cheesy for my taste. Would be perfectly happy with an orchestral theme by Yoko Shimomura who will be composing the rest of the OST anyway. If they really have to find a singer who can sing both in Japanese and English, then why not Angela Aki who is a better and more talented singer than Utada Hikaru in every single way?
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I honestly don't care about her. JPOP is for the most part too cheesy for my taste. Would be perfectly happy with an orchestral theme by Yoko Shimomura who will be composing the rest of the OST anyway. If they really have to find a singer who can sing both in Japanese and English, then why not Angela Aki who is a better and more talented singer than Utada Hikaru in every single way?
a lot of fans want her back because they feel her music defines the series. She sang for kh1 and kh2 so it makes sense that she would do the new theme song for kh3
despite that however, im perfectly fine if she decides not to return. there are plenty of other JPOP artists who could do just a good of a job as her
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a lot of fans want her back because they feel her music defines the series. She sang for kh1 and kh2 so it makes sense that she would do the new theme song for kh3
Essentially this. It'd be weird having another singer take over at the end of a saga....
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I honestly don't care about her. JPOP is for the most part too cheesy for my taste.
Except Utada is less "pop" and more "experimental". Besides her very obvious poppy songs like "Goodbye Happiness", most of her music is more eclectic (mainly anything from Deep River or Ultra Blue...) Honestly, Utada set the bar for what GOOD experimental pop music should be in Japan and nobody has been able to reach her level.
| If they really have to find a singer who can sing both in Japanese and English, then why not Angela Aki who is a better and more talented singer than Utada Hikaru in every single way? |
Angela Aki is definitely talented, but I don't find her to be better than Utada. I find a good portion of her music to be boring, honestly. Beautiful piano playing, beautiful voice, but most of her songs are slow to mid beat tempos that all sound similar. After "Kiss Me Goodbye" I haven't heard another song from Angela Aki that stands out...and I have gone through a lot of her songs to find something I could enjoy.
Honestly, she doesn't even sound like the right pick for anything related to Kingdom Hearts.
Considering the HUGE attention this had, I think people would really disagree with your sentiments. I saw people more excited about KH3 because of Utada's presumed return than the clip we got a few days ago. Utada has made her mark in the series. I think you'd find casual fans would know her name before Yoko Shimomura's, as sad as that sounds.
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If anything, this entire misunderstanding will serve as an incentive for Utada to follow through with it, based on the fan reactions; I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this was staged to be a compliance device.
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I've missed the conversation for a few days and can't catch up since it would take a while, but is it possible that Utada has signed on to be in KH3 but SE did NOT want her confirming it yet so they told her to backtrack what she said and say "undecided" in the meantime?
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I've missed the conversation for a few days and can't catch up since it would take a while, but is it possible that Utada has signed on to be in KH3 but SE did NOT want her confirming it yet so they told her to backtrack what she said and say "undecided" in the meantime?
Utada didn't say anything anyways. It was her dad who jumped the gun and had to retract the statement.
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If it's the case that there really is no decision made yet, it seems that her dad (her manager), who made the statement, thought that it was true. But then he had to restate. I imagine someone from SE caught it and said something. But if Terazune thought so, he'll go with it. And he gets what he wants.
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If it's the case that there really is no decision made yet, it seems that her dad (her manager), who made the statement, thought that it was true. But then he had to restate. I imagine someone from SE caught it and said something. But if Terazune thought so, he'll go with it. And he gets what he wants.
Yeah, the plausible theory is that Teruzane and Hikaru were already contacted and the decision was made, but because SE & Disney are control freaks and saw the buzz on the internet, made calls and told Teruzane to retract his statement. It wouldn't be the first Square Enix or Disney have done things like these.
My favorite example is when ROEN, the clothing company that designed the outfits in Versus XIII/FFXV, had "Final Fantasy 15" listed on their biography of work for over a year. The second people found it and it was being spread about the internet, ROEN changed it to "Final Fantasy Versus XIII" and said it was a mistake. Not even a month later did SE unveil FFXV at E3 and said they had changed the game's name back in 2011 but held off on announcing it in the trailer released that year.
Then there was a whole Disney poster debacle last year when a Latin American news site leaked the character designs of Elsa and Anna from Frozen. Immediately Disney said the images were fake. Then not long later did Disney officially reveal them.
But yeah, if the decision wasn't made it would make sense for him to retract his statement.
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I don't know, if Hikki's dad wasn't following the series and if they hadn't talked to him about it yet then I actually think it's plausible that he legitimately misunderstood what was asked. I can see him glancing over it and being like, how many times has Kingdom Hearts licensed us? Surely we had to have had it done for whatever this one is too.
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Utada didn't say anything anyways. It was her dad who jumped the gun and had to retract the statement.
In that case I have a strong feeling that perhaps her dad wasn't in the know about not mentioning it.
Then there was a whole Disney poster debacle last year when a Latin American news site leaked the character designs of Elsa and Anna from Frozen. Immediately Disney said the images were fake. Then not long later did Disney officially reveal them.
I was unaware that Elsa and Anna were leaked that way. If that's the case that both SE and Disney have a history of doing that, both really recently too, then I'm sure Utada is still attached to KH3 ^_^
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Jesus, just pay her already. SE, you reused each of her songs so much, just pay her you stingy bastards.
In that case I have a strong feeling that perhaps her dad wasn't in the know about not mentioning it.
Her father is her manager.
Jesus, just pay her already. SE, you reused each of her songs so much, just pay her you stingy bastards.
It's not SE, it's Disney. They handle most of the contractual business and foot the bill.
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Her father is her manager.
I didn't say Utada was in the know lol I just meant that he was not one of the people that knew he shouldn't be mentioning it (she may not have known either). Sorry if it came across odd :P
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I didn't say Utada was in the know lol I just meant that he was not one of the people that knew he shouldn't be mentioning it (she may not have known either). Sorry if it came across odd :P
And again I repeat, he is her manager. He WOULD be the person to know what and what not to say.
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I don't know about you guys but I'm 100% sure Hikaru is returning to the Kingdom Hearts franchise. She was here for Kingdom Hearts 1 and Kingdom Hearts 2. SHe will be here for the third for sure; so brace yourself. :cool:
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I don't know about you guys but I'm 100% sure Hikaru is returning to the Kingdom Hearts franchise. She was here for Kingdom Hearts 1 and Kingdom Hearts 2. SHe will be here for the third for sure; so brace yourself. :cool:
It really depends on whether or not her dad says she can do it. He said no to Disney after KH2, thats why they've just reused her songs.
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It really depends on whether or not her dad says she can do it. He said no to Disney after KH2, thats why they've just reused her songs.
He'd be a fool not too. KH is a big part of her career disney should make her a good offer
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He'd be a fool not too. KH is a big part of her career disney should make her a good offer
And yet he said no before. And Disney wasn't making a good offer back then.
Things have probably changed, but it shouldn't be forgotten that this happened before.
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He'd be a fool not too. KH is a big part of her career disney should make her a good offer
What disney should do and what they actually do tend to not coincide.
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You know for a while I thought that singer from DDD was going to be the one to sing a possible new KH song but hey Hikaru Utada will always be my favorite!
:tongue: Someone should twitter stalk/facebook/instagram about this until she's convinced to start working for KH again! Just kidding!
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You know for a while I thought that singer from DDD was going to be the one to sing a possible new KH song but hey Hikaru Utada will always be my favorite!
Singer from DDD? Doesn't it use the orchestral version of Simple and Clean?
EDIT: Oh, I gotcha. You mean the singer who performs the TWEWY songs.
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You know for a while I thought that singer from DDD was going to be the one to sing a possible new KH song but hey Hikaru Utada will always be my favorite!
:tongue: Someone should twitter stalk/facebook/instagram about this until she's convinced to start working for KH again! Just kidding!
Stephanie? She's cool and sounds great, but I think I'd prefer her to stick with TWEWY songs xD
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Stephanie? She's cool and sounds great, but I think I'd prefer her to stick with TWEWY songs xD
Yeah I realized that Stephanie is from TWEWY. Just couldn't remember her name!
This whole talk of singers reminds of a conversation I had with a friend once. She said it would pretty cool if a K-Pop or a J-Pop singer and/or band would sing a new song for KHIII. I can totally see something from Big Bang being played in KH! XD
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That's a shame. : /
Well, if she doesn't return, I kinda want them to get Jennifer Stigile to sing the songs. I love her songs in Lunar. XD I doubt they'll do it, but eh.
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[FONT=arial]In my honest opinion it is the title and theme music of the games that get the player hyped to playing it... I remember playing Kingdom Hearts 1 feeling hyped and ready to play it. I doubt Kingdom Hearts would be the same if it wasn't her who sang the theme... (
of course gameplay would be brilliant!
) but it needs her to do the intro and ending... she just puts the emotion into the games with the starting and ending themes.[/FONT]
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Kingdom Hearts just isn't the same without her. Another reason why I look forward to KH, besides the game itself, is because of her and her music! It's like KH will be incomplete without her!!
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Personally, I couldn't really see the KH series without Utada. Her music is so deep and symbolic when it relates to the KH series.
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With all due respect and admiration for Utada and her work, I have personally to admit that when associating music with KH I do this more with Yoko Shimomura (especially most of the memorable character themes, Dearly Beloved and "Fate of the Unknown") than with Utada.
KH can do without Utada music-wise if really neccessary, but I doubt the same can be said for Shimomura (except if they would maybe get Nobuo Uematsu if she ever needs to be replaced).
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With all due respect and admiration for Utada and her work, I have personally to admit that when associating music with KH I do this more with Yoko Shimomura (especially most of the memorable character themes, Dearly Beloved and "Fate of the Unknown") than with Utada.
KH can do without Utada music-wise if really neccessary, but I doubt the same can be said for Shimomura (except if they would maybe get Nobuo Uematsu if she ever needs to be replaced).
Agreed. While I do love utada and her music, I feel that Yoko defines kh more than she does
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Utada doesn't exactly sum up KH, in fact the only english work of hers that symbolized anything in KH was Sanctuary. The fact that she is so iconic to the KH franchise however, would have some fans saddened if she wasn't affiliated with anything post-KHIII and beyond.
I'm not sure if Nobou would be the proper replacement for Yoko, despite his previous work for Final Fantasy titles.
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I agree that Shimomoura is far more vital to KH than Utada is, but that's no doubt because in terms of sheer number and impact, Shimomoura completely beats out Utada.
Sadly, when it comes to a majority of the fanbase, who is more casual, KH couldn't survive with Utada in their eyes since the only KH songs they actually know are Simple and Clean and Passion/Sanctuary <_<
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Well when someone says KH OST at least half will think Utada.
Can't blame them, she was a very visual image for the game too.
No doubt when you google either KH or Utada the two are linked.
But
Shimomoura doesn't seem to have much spotlight unless you
actually follow the game.
I only found out about
Shimomoura as of late last year myself
(sorry if this all sounds like random gibberish)
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Kingdom Hearts just isn't the same without her. Another reason why I look forward to KH, besides the game itself, is because of her and her music! It's like KH will be incomplete without her!!
This, and with most game systems digging surround sound, her beats arguably will sound better.
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With all due respect and admiration for Utada and her work, I have personally to admit that when associating music with KH I do this more with Yoko Shimomura (especially most of the memorable character themes, Dearly Beloved and "Fate of the Unknown") than with Utada.
KH can do without Utada music-wise if really neccessary, but I doubt the same can be said for Shimomura (except if they would maybe get Nobuo Uematsu if she ever needs to be replaced).
Yeah I totally associate any KH game with
Yoko Shimomura's work. I own all the soundtracks for the games and I have to say that it's not Utada people should be concerned about but, more of a recognition for
Shimomura. I mean I loved DDD's opening of Dearly Beloved
Though I think that if SE wants to have a KHIII game that was as successful as KHI and KHII, then the company may have to call back up Utada for another song. This way the formula can continue and if there are any side games then well this new song can serve as a basis for remixes for other game titles (like how BBS had the Simple and Clean remix).
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
Y U NO guy meme
Hold your horses, there. If you've read the title and the full story more carefully, you'd be aware that Utada's return to KH is, rather than revoked, undecided. Her father-manager hasn't come up with a clear-cut, yes-or-no decision yet. She can still return, while at the same time, she can possibly not return. It's too early to tell, let alone jump into conclusions.
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
Y U NO Meme
As Flanix said, she hasn't confirmed whether or not she is making one, but if in the end, she says no, there will be a reason behind it. Whether it be Disney not willing to up her payment (which after 2 games where her song is easily the most recognized by the fans, they really should) or her not being able to, I think it'd be reasonable if she didn't want to return and I think the fanbase should be understanding of that. You wouldn't want to be forced to make a song that took a long time to conceive for no pay or one that you weren't proud of I'm assuming ^_^
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Why is everyone bringing up Shimamura all of a sudden?
/musicalrant
Hikaru and Yoko can't be compared in this situation, as they're not even in the same category. They're two different people, doing two different jobs, for different reasons. Utada is a public face of Kingdom Hearts (more so in Japan, but hey), while Yoko is the composer (not a public face). If Yoko wanted to write music to be in the spotlight, she wouldn't have been an orchestral composer, promise. The two musicians tell the same story in a different way, but they're both necessary for different reasons. It seems that some people would rather just kick Hikaru out and let Yoko write the theme. In hindsight, where do you think Yoko got the material to write the orchestrated themes in previous games? Yoko is staying, and that won't change. That's her job. I have no doubt that Hikaru will come back.
Maybe it's just the band director in me, but goodness. I love them both to death, and they've both helped me make decisions on being a music educator.
/endrant
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
Why is everyone bringing up Shimamura all of a sudden?
/musicalrant
Hikaru and Yoko can't be compared in this situation, as they're not even in the same category. They're two different people, doing two different jobs, for different reasons. Utada is a public face of Kingdom Hearts (more so in Japan, but hey), while Yoko is the composer (not a public face). If Yoko wanted to write music to be in the spotlight, she wouldn't have been an orchestral composer, promise. The two musicians tell the same story in a different way, but they're both necessary for different reasons. It seems that some people would rather just kick Hikaru out and let Yoko write the theme. In hindsight, where do you think Yoko got the material to write the orchestrated themes in previous games? Yoko is staying, and that won't change. That's her job. I have no doubt that Hikaru will come back.
Maybe it's just the band director in me, but goodness. I love them both to death, and they've both helped me make decisions on being a music educator.
/endrant
I agree with you 100%.
I love Yoko Shimomura's music, but there is no denying that Utada is the face of the theme of this series. People who aren't even big fans of the series can hear Simple & Clean/Hikari and say "That's from Kingdom Hearts!" You can't do that with any other Kingdom Hearts song.
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
I don't think she will do it again. Her mother recently committed suicide while Hikaru was staying in London... I just hope everything goes ok. But from what I heard Hikaru has a real chip on her shoulder and she is kind of a pre-madonna ...
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
I don't think she will do it again. Her mother recently committed suicide while Hikaru was staying in London... I just hope everything goes ok. But from what I heard Hikaru has a real chip on her shoulder and she is kind of a pre-madonna ...
She's still been doing her work, though. She has a radio show and about a month after her mom's death she got things back in order and has been moving on.
Utada hadn't been the one to reject Disney the first time anyways. It had been her father, though I'm pretty sure they discussed it together beforehand. She did Evangelion 3.0 despite still being on her music hiatus. She seems willing to make small compromises depending on the situation, and music is still a passion of hers regardless if she hasn't made a new album in years.
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
A new song is far less taxing than a new album, and if she's well compensated then I'm sure her father will have no complaints.
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
A new song is far less taxing than a new album, and if she's well compensated then I'm sure her father will have no complaints.
That's the problem, if she was well compensated. I'm sure though that in the end, Disney would shell out quite a lot more than previous titles in order to ensure her return, but they are notoriously known for not being the best when it comes to payments.
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That's the problem, if she was well compensated. I'm sure though that in the end, Disney would shell out quite a lot more than previous titles in order to ensure her return, but they are notoriously known for not being the best when it comes to payments.
Despite Utada being paid on a commission, she'd get royalties as well. Depending on how discussions go, she can easily argue for a bigger cut from the sales of her song (because it'll definitely end up on iTunes, on her YT channel as a video, and though physical distribution either on the OST or something...)
One side will have to make a compromise and I think everybody would still profit regardless of who gives up what.
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I'm ready for a new theme song for Kingdom Hearts. I personally like Utada's music well at least her music in the early and mid 2000's. I still enjoy Simple and Clean and Sanctuary as well as the Japanese version but I am anxious to hear what her new song will sound like.
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
I'm sure that IF Utada does come back, her releasing even a snippet of her new song (Japanese or English) will make the fanbase go nuts haha so I hope that happens :) Though I do agree, no matter what happens in the end, I trust it'll be good...Utada or not (I'd like Utada though in a perfect world).
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
D: No Utada?
That sucks....
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
D: No Utada?
That sucks....
Nothing is set in stone, yet. Her father said it's undecided. We'll see...
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
Given the track record I get the feeling it'll lean towards no. =[
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
Wow, Hikaru has to return. Each numbered Kingdom Hearts game had a new theme song and if 3 doesn't it's gonna be disappointing for me. The Kingdom Hearts music brings up the nostalgia, and is what plays a huge role in the Kingdom Hearts series in my opinion. Even if Hikaru doesn't return, I would still love to see some "kingdom hearts styled" music from some other great composer.
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
I agree with you 100%.
I love Yoko Shimomura's music, but there is no denying that Utada is the face of the theme of this series. People who aren't even big fans of the series can hear Simple & Clean/Hikari and say "That's from Kingdom Hearts!" You can't do that with any other Kingdom Hearts song.
I think the main melody to 'another side another story', '13th analogy' (i forget the name) and a few others is instantly recognizable to players as well
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
Mabey if they agreed to release it on itunes In the US. I never understood why the woulndt release them here, it would sell well. The song are always a hit in Japan.
There still a year before a descion has to be made but I hope she remember the large part she has in making this game what appealing.
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
Mabey if they agreed to release it on itunes In the US. I never understood why the woulndt release them here, it would sell well. The song are always a hit in Japan.
There still a year before a descion has to be made but I hope she remember the large part she has in making this game what appealing.
omg show this picture to Utada!!!
I'm sure this will persuade her to come back xD
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
I think the main melody to 'another side another story', '13th analogy' (i forget the name) and a few others is instantly recognizable to players as well
I'm talking about casual fans. They probably wouldn't be able to tell you the name of those two songs (hell, I usually can't tell you the name of those two songs unless I'm thinking about them) and probably say "oh, that's from Kingdom Hearts" half of the time. "Simple & Clean" is instantly paired with Kingdom Hearts, and rightfully so since we've been listening to it for 10 years.
Also what you're thinking of is "Organization XIII". "The 13th Anthology" is the one from the Drammatica orchestral album Yoko Shimomura did in 2008.
Mabey if they agreed to release it on itunes In the US. I never understood why the woulndt release them here, it would sell well. The song are always a hit in Japan.
There still a year before a descion has to be made but I hope she remember the large part she has in making this game what appealing.
You can get "Hikari" & "Passion" on iTunes US right now, though...I think the other ones have something to do with Disney & Square Enix's weird licensing bullcrap that also has to do with why no KH OST has been released here in years.
Utada's label released "Sakura Nagashi" on iTunes US a few days after the song was released to the world. It's not impossible...
Re: UPDATE: Hikaru Utada's future with Kingdom Hearts Undecided
I'm talking about casual fans. They probably wouldn't be able to tell you the name of those two songs (hell, I usually can't tell you the name of those two songs unless I'm thinking about them) and probably say "oh, that's from Kingdom Hearts" half of the time. "Simple & Clean" is instantly paired with Kingdom Hearts, and rightfully so since we've been listening to it for 10 years.
Also what you're thinking of is "Organization XIII". "The 13th Anthology" is the one from the Drammatica orchestral album Yoko Shimomura did in 2008.
You can get "Hikari" & "Passion" on iTunes US right now, though...I think the other ones have something to do with Disney & Square Enix's weird licensing bullcrap that also has to do with why no KH OST has been released here in years.
Utada's label released "Sakura Nagashi" on iTunes US a few days after the song was released to the world. It's not impossible...
Is it there now? It definitely wasn't 6 years ago. I kept that theme stuck in my head from 4th grade till 9th when i finally got a chance to play it. I have the songs now so it doesn't it matter. I just think if they release the main theme or remixed theme as singles to coincide witht the release of the game they would sell well, which would make them pay her well, which would have prevented her from stepping away from KH.
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It may have helped them sell a bit better but not sure if it would've kept her with kh though.
This image ;A;
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