GameTrailers' KINGDOM HEARTS Timeline Released!
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- Published on May 24, 2013 @ 05:26 pm
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In November 2012 when GameTrailers' debuted their Timeline video series, the KINGDOM HEARTS community was astonished to discover the secret teaser at the end of the video. The series' iconic title theme, Dearly Beloved, softly played as the familiar Kingdom Key Keyblade was shown stood gleaming in the sunlight on a sandy beach. As the scene faded away, the words "SPRING 2013" appeared, and the community erupted in excitement.
Two weeks ago, they released a follow-up trailer showing off some iconic scenes and locales from the series thus far, further engaging their audience and attracting everyone's attention. Degraded Keyblades lay scattered across the once forgotten battleground of the Keyblade Graveyard, empty thrones loomed over within Where Nothing Gathers. The star-studded hat of sorcery calls out for its long-retired Master, and the tree bearing star-shaped fruit basks in the warm light of a setting sun. This proved one thing and one thing only; that this Timeline would not be anything like what we expected.
The success of their previous Legend of Zelda timeline made it clear that the upcoming video would be nothing short of incredible. Even in the face of doubt, the GameTrailers team put great care into making sure they would be able to do the series and its fans justice with spot-on accuracy in every single piece of information. After almost 6 months of waiting, we are finally able to witness this from beginning to end! With GameTrailers at the helm, let us take a walk down memory lane and line the pieces up in this broken chain.
We here on the KHInsider site staff are very honored to have had the opportunity to work with GameTrailers on this Timeline!
Source: GameTrailers
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I'll be honest, I had a lot of doubt about this timeline but GameTrailers did a really great job! Super impressed with how this turned out~
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Congrats everyone and congrats on GameTrailers for making the awesome Timeline video!
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[/spoiler]I'm happy they mentioned our names! Woohoo!
Anyway, it seems like a great video. I really wonder though how they managed to get all that high-res footage from Birth by Sleep. It almost looks like it could be from HD 2.5 ReMIX if you ask me. Clearly they emulated KH2 Final Mix and ripped HD footage from that, but can you do the same for a PSP emulated game with such pretty graphics?
Also, minutes 31:58 - 42:20 will not play. They just skip right over to the next part 3:
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I'm happy they mentioned our names! Woohoo!
Anyway, it seems like a great video. I really wonder though how they managed to get all that high-res footage from Birth by Sleep. It almost looks like it could be from HD 2.5 ReMIX if you ask me. Clearly they emulated KH2 Final Mix and ripped HD footage from that, but can you do the same for a PSP emulated game with such pretty graphics?
Also, minutes 31:58 - 42:20 will not play. They just skip right over to the next part 3:
Yeah, you can do it. BBS was a pretty good looking game in general, and emulation mods can make it look better. :3
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The video was very well put together and the content was pretty accurate and understandable. Sure, there were a couple of things missing but still, they succeeded in explaining the core story in a very understandable manner (imo). Also, congrats on the peeps who worked together with GT to make sure the content was as accurate as it is.
Some trip down nostalgia lane, though. The music still gives me shivers.
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"Though much of the game's narrative involves the friends sitting around eating ice cream"
I lol'd.
Overall very good! Just one slip up worth mentioning--I think it was a mistake not to talk briefly about 2.5 HD Remix. They make it sound like there's nothing between 1.5 and 3, so more casual fans might be disappointed by that revelation.
They definitely did their homework and covered all the major bases.
You can tell they engaged the fandom in constructing the timeline, especially with the use of everyone's favorite buzzword, "convoluted."
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This was magnificent. I loved it. Accurate, engaging, animated, and pretty damn informative.
Everyone involved did a marvelous job.
It really got me hyped and excited about Kingdom Hearts again as a series. Reminded me how light-hearted yet compelling the series really is. Great video.
They really DID do their homework, though I'm sure they had great tutors
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They really DID do their homework, though I'm sure they had great tutors
You bet your ass they did have some great tutors.
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king_mickey rule already stated most of the things I was about to say, lol.
This is definitely a gem for the more casual players/fans to understand the basic overaching story better and those "couple of things missing" are actually the topics that already go deeper into the mythology than it is needed for an informative overview.
The two main tasks of KH III, Sora destinied to save those in torment and the final clash with Xehanort are covered in detail, as are the more obvious confusing bits like two Ansem's, Vanitas looking like Goth-Sora and Roxas' twin-looks with Ventus.
The thing with 2.5 gelandporn mentioned has me concerned as well though, as the casual fanbase is known for taking such things literally they might truly expect KH III now directly after HD I.5.
Seeing that our staff actually served as advisers/experts on putting it together was truly something to behold, so no one can say the guys and gals at GT "didn't do their research".
I certainly hope this will have a hugely positive response in general. ^__^
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That was really good .. for a retelling. Now I'd like to have a video that looks into specific plot details and presents theories based an hard evidence and facts from the numerous interviews.:tongue:
With JPCSP it's easily possible to render BBS on higher resolution although the actual gameplay doesn't look so pretty.
Also credit where credit is due: The shown Apprentice Xehanort render was made by Soxra aka Soxxeh.
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Wow, I knew Gametrailers was making this video but i did not know that you guys were involved in it as well. That's pretty awesome.
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how about that? game trailers actually pulled it off
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Wow amazing show! When I first hear of this I wouldn't have imagined they would go into this much detail into the series as a whole and explain the finer details of the series. Makes me want to go look up there Zelda timeline video.
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Incrediblle and kudos
to all memeber from the who contributed to it
Is someone real name Paddintong bear thats adorable
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Incrediblle and kudos
to all memeber from the who contributed to it
Is someone real name Paddintong bear thats adorable
That was most likely an alias.
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That was a really good video! :D
I'm sure a lot of those "the side games don't matter" people, and confused fans, will gain quite a bit from this.
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I really wasn't sure how this was going to turn out when it was first teased.
But I can now say that I enjoyed every minute of that video. It was a rush of nostalgia goosebumps for me. The delivery and structure were very good. It's very evident a lot of work went into it, and not just 'cause it's super long. I'm not sure it could have been done any better.
Reading through the comments was nice; I got to see a bunch of people saying "I only played 1 and 2, and this clears up everything!", though I do wish they would have played the games (except maybe Days).
The one thing I thought it goofed on, though, was that it says Kairi was sent to Destiny Islands after Radiant Garden fell to darkness. It was actually Ansem SoD who sent her out into the World, hoping that she was a Princess and that she might lead him to the next Keybearer. Though I can understand why they didn't touch upon the Reports much given its nature as a summary.
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This was pretty good. I feel there were some things that were too vaguely worded and some other things that were left out that are quite necessary to the story, but overall it was detailed and covered the story to a great extent. It was also a very beautiful presentation, seeing the custom CGI as well as the higher resolution renderings of KH2 and BBS (though, sometimes it showed their original resolutions which was kind of distracting).
The main thing that wasn't covered that I think should have is Braig. He was present, but I don't think he was ever discussed by name. He, and Isa too, has a connection to Xehanort that none of the other characters in the series do and it is something that is probably go to play a bigger role later on, with some of the XIII darknesses undoubtedly being like them.
Kingdom Hearts is certainly a convoluted story, and things having to be left out is understandable. Watching this reminded me of why this series has kept my attention for so long and made me excited for the future of it so much more. Kingdom Hearts 3 is going to happen sooner or later, and I'm excite.
[SPOILER=real talk]screw this thing no repliku and marluxia and very little vanitas and no mention of extended canon through things like the novels and final mixes and ultimanias tbh i kinda felt com didn't even happen after watching this i mean snarl of memories is a scene that connects majorly to days and coded and it's absent and also the lack of explanation of xion's appearance and how it's different between people sometimes omfg 0/10 >:C[/SPOILER]
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This was pretty good. I feel there were some things that were too vaguely worded and some other things that were left out that are quite necessary to the story, but overall it was detailed and covered the story to a great extent. It was also a very beautiful presentation, seeing the custom CGI as well as the higher resolution renderings of KH2 and BBS (though, sometimes it showed their original resolutions which was kind of distracting).
The main thing that wasn't covered that I think should have is Braig. He was present, but I don't think he was ever discussed by name. He, and Isa too, has a connection to Xehanort that none of the other characters in the series do and it is something that is probably go to play a bigger role later on, with some of the XIII darknesses undoubtedly being like them.
Kingdom Hearts is certainly a convoluted story, and things having to be left out is understandable. Watching this reminded me of why this series has kept my attention for so long and made me excited for the future of it so much more. Kingdom Hearts 3 is going to happen sooner or later, and I'm excite.
[SPOILER=real talk]screw this thing no repliku and marluxia and very little vanitas and no mention of extended canon through things like the novels and final mixes and ultimanias tbh i kinda felt com didn't even happen after watching this i mean snarl of memories is a scene that connects majorly to days and coded and it's absent and also the lack of explanation of xion's appearance and how it's different between people sometimes omfg 0/10 >:C[/SPOILER]
I look forward to watching your timeline video.
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I honestly think this was an awesome video. I really liked the way they explained a lot of it. Sure, there are going to be some things left out, that happens when you summarize the whole KH series into 52 minuets. But this was very well done and much better than I would have ever expected. Great job GameTrailers!:)
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Amazing video! Loved the visuals, the information! You guys just gave me more ideas for my fanfic! <3 You guys prob made the fandom get more fans after this!
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This video really does the Kingdom Hearts story justice
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This was SO great and very well made! This needs to be put on youtube so I can share and favorite!
Now when people ask about the plot I'll link them to this video. They should no longer be confused. Also when those people show up saying that the side games aren't important I'll have them watch this and make them eat their words.
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I actually thought they were going to just make some shitty picture showing which order the games take place, I had no idea why people were excited.
I was pleasantly surprised, this was very well done. I'm going to show my sister this tomorrow. :D
I can see that they made a Zelda video as well, I'm going to watch that one too.
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I don't mean to sound... ignorant, but what was the song at the end? I know it's a sneak peek on what game is next, so which one is it?
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I don't mean to sound... ignorant, but what was the song at the end? I know it's a sneak peek on what game is next, so which one is it?
if memory serves, the next timeline is a Metal Gear one. Lord knows that series needs one.
also this was great, although a few mispronunciations bugged me and there were some useful details left out. aside from that, good jorb to all involved!
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I didn't really have high hopes for this, but it was better than expected. It certainly cleared a few things up for me. As others have said though, I did feel like COM didn't exist properly in this timeline. How could they forget Repliku????
Is someone real name Paddintong bear thats adorable
I'm almost certain it was THE Paddington Bear, he's actually a KH fan.
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I thought the timeline video was awesome. But there were four issues that I had with it. First the lack of information about braig. He was an important character for making apprentice xehanort continue to do the experiments. Second the importance of maleficent. She was key in bringing the seven princesses of heart in kh1 under master xehanort planning in kh bbs. Third the world order. Remember that during kh bbs and kh1 that the keyblade weilders can't tell anyone that they were from another world which is why it was important that maleficent heard about the seven princesses from master xehanort. Forth was an error that he mentioned in kh358/2 days was the first time for the audience to know that roxas was sora's nobody. But in kh2 after defeating siax, sora asked why everyone kept calling him roxas to which riku said that he was his nobody. Other than that I love the video.
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Like some of you have already mentioned, there was indeed a lack of various aspects from the story (like Braig, Isa etc.) in this timeline video. However, they simply couldn't afford to cram everything into this hour long video, after all its main purpose is to clear up most of the story for newcomers or those who are completely lost.
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However, they simply couldn't afford to cram everything into this hour long video, after all its main purpose is to clear up most of the story for newcomers or those who are completely lost.
That's what I took from this as well. The video is aimed to bring those up to speed who are more on the casual side, meaning that only the most crucial story aspects and most critical sources of confusion which actually affect the main plot have been included.
Aspects (or rather, characters) like Braig/Isa or the Riku Replica are, while important, not crucial to understand the main premise of the story and the stuff needed to know so more casual people not totally lost from the beginning.
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Aspects (or rather, characters) like Braig/Isa or the Riku Replica are, while important, not crucial to understand the main premise of the story and the stuff needed to know so more casual people not totally lost from the beginning.
Exactly, and though most people frequenting these forums would love a more hardcore KH nerd approach towards the series' real mysteries (The chambers of Repose and Awakening, who exactly Xemnas converses with, the true guardians of light, what happened to many of the organization members, what happened to Terra etc.), there simply isn't as much of a demand for all those topics. It would've ultimately hurt GameTrailers' Timeline video.
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Just a question. I have yet to play DDD. I skipped the part where they summarized that game's plot (I'm at the 19:15 mark) but is the rest of the video spoilerish? Do they mention DDD's pesst in the rest of the 40 minutes?
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Exactly, and though most people frequenting these forums would love a more hardcore KH nerd approach towards the series' real mysteries (The chambers of Repose and Awakening, who exactly Xemnas converses with, the true guardians of light, what happened to many of the organization members, what happened to Terra etc.), there simply isn't as much of a demand for all those topics. It would've ultimately hurt GameTrailers' Timeline video.
Yep, being such a "KH nerd" so to speak myself I of course noticed all the additional "important" things missing, but I differentiated from the beginning since it is supposed to be a general overview of the most crucial plot points.
Those you mention there are of course all interesting/important issues but the thing is that these already go too much into detail. This timeline was not created to scrutinize the entire plot and explain how everything happens/happened but to show what happened with the easiest possible method.
For example, when they explain in the video why Roxas and Ventus look like twins they just say "it's because Ventus' heart was resting inside Sora and this gave Roxas his appearance."
How exactly that works and why and what is for the actual fact not important at first glance. The way they explain it in the video is enough to inform people that Roxas and Ventus aren't the same despite looking identical, and that is the crucial information.
The only crucial things I think they missed was the "anything can have a heart"-fact that was hinted and foreshadowed throughout the series and Ansem's research data hidden in Sora.
Just a question. I have yet to play DDD. I skipped the part where they summarized that game's plot (I'm at the 19:15 mark) but is the rest of the video spoilerish? Do they mention DDD's pesst in the rest of the 40 minutes?
Why yes, of course they do. DDD is the setup/Prologue for KH III and ties all the other games together plotwise so they obviously cover it.
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Just a question. I have yet to play DDD. I skipped the part where they summarized that game's plot (I'm at the 19:15 mark) but is the rest of the video spoilerish? Do they mention DDD's pesst in the rest of the 40 minutes?
The video begins by detailing every title in the series, followed by special chapters that go into various interesting aspects of the series' entire plot, which most certainly spoils DDD's story for you.
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Really well done. The visuals were great! Much more than I expected. As for the lack of small details, I don't think it hurt the video at all. They did a great job of summarizing the plot and even clearing up some complicated aspects of the story, but to really understand everything you just need to play the games (or watch a walkthrough, etc.).
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if memory serves, the next timeline is a Metal Gear one. Lord knows that series needs one.
also this was great, although a few mispronunciations bugged me and there were some useful details left out. aside from that, good jorb to all involved!
I've never gotten into the MGS series, but I'm going to watch the timeline video for it and see if that makes me want to play it.
I didn't catch any mispronunciations. What were they? :O
You guys think they'll do a VII timeline down the road? The order of the games is pretty clear, but I'd like to see a video regardless.
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And stoke the fire for FF7 HD remake?
I'd hope not, that's annoying enough as it is XD
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I am soooooooooooo glad they did this. I had given up hope in trying to understand the details behind Organization XIII and the various version of Xemnas. It certainly doesn't help that they brought time travel into the mix, that always manages to muck up a story but GT did a phenomenal job of explaining it. It's amazing to me that everything does line up into a coherent story line given the fact that the series has now spanned 10 years and various game platforms. I definitely feel ready for KH3 now.
One question I do have though is where they got that CGI clip at the very end which features Sora standing with Aqua and most of the main cast, what game was that in?
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One question I do have though is where they got that CGI clip at the very end which features Sora standing with Aqua and most of the main cast, what game was that in?
That's from the opening of Kingdom Hearts 3D.
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Amazing work <3 I really enjoyed this and ended up learning a few more things [:
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Very well done, this is much appreciated!
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The timeline video was amazing! Even though the knowledge was "nothing new" it was very nice to have it displayed in such a high-quality and well-made "official" video as well as see clips of scenes from all the games all over again. Really makes me psyched for KH1.5 in NA, possible 2.5, and of course, KHIII, whenever that may come out.
Amazing and well-done- thanks for all the work you guys put in, too! Definitely worth it in the end! :D
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Loved every minute! So much nostalgia! This really renewed my excitement for this series which started to diminish after the hype for 3D ran its course. Good job to all involved. I do think they may as well have rounded it off to an hour and added just a bit more info.
I hope after Metal Gear, they cover Resident Evil. That's one series I really need the refresher for.
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Loved it! Of course there were skipped parts but as a whole this is probably one of the best videos to supplement KH.
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there were skipped parts
The fact that everyone keeps saying this makes my head hurt, got quite enough from the timeline video.
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I feel so behind lol but I finally got to see it as the internet I was using was too slow to load. I understand that they left some parts out like others have said, but I don't think the thing was meant to be a be-all-end-all source of everything KH in one single video, taking into account every little thing. It was just a nice way to catch up every casual fan for the most part before the next game. Sure there will be parts that the casual gamer won't understand because it wasn't in this timeline, but like with any game, I don't expect a casual gamer to remember every single item from the past game, they should be able to put 2 and 2 together ;)
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The fact that everyone keeps saying this makes my head hurt, got quite enough from the timeline video.
Yeah, i posted before reading everyone else's cuz I used the link from the news oage and comments werent showing up there.
I got quite enough from the video myself.
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I have to say that this was an amazing timeline that caught me up to speed finally on all the issues i was wondering about in the series and it was good enough to get me to make an account :biggrin:.
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Amazing video! A few things was skipped but can't be helped. It's amazing they covered as much as they did. :D
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I have to say that this was an amazing timeline that caught me up to speed finally on all the issues i was wondering about in the series and it was good enough to get me to make an account :biggrin:.
Well, welcome to KHInsider! Glad you could join us~
If you have any questions, we're here to answer them!
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Thanks for the video. Will watch it when I have time, or after I finished Re: Coded and DDD :frown:
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Very well done!!! Anyone who was involved in the making of this deserves to give themselves a pat on the back. There was some stuff that was skipped, but in order to fully explain the series, you would probably need a 2-3 hour video. Excellent video guys!
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Very well done!!! Anyone who was involved in the making of this deserves to give themselves a pat on the back. There was some stuff that was skipped, but in order to fully explain the series, you would probably need a 2-3 hour video. Excellent video guys!
LET'S GET A PART 2!!! jk This was definitely great for a rough summary of the series and I love how they openly expressed how people thought it was convoluted because it is true that people say that, so this timeline is a perfect way to simplify MOST of the main points.
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Very well done!!! Anyone who was involved in the making of this deserves to give themselves a pat on the back. There was some stuff that was skipped, but in order to fully explain the series, you would probably need a 2-3 hour video. Excellent video guys!
Glad you like it! Hopefully we'll have the opportunity to work with GT again in the future!
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Finally finished the Video, good job everyone who took part in it.
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Loved it! I actually glazed over the news announcement and I saw secret teaser thinking there was one at the end of the timeline video. That would be a huge shocker. But it was just talking about the teaser for the timeline video earlier this year.
Anyway, I like that the Versus XIII bit was put in. It might have shed some light for some people on why the series has spanned as such.
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Amazing job, almost 500.000 views.
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Amazing job, almost 500.000 views.
when the next game in the series is announced, that view count is definitely going to spike up again.
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when the next game in the series is announced, that view count is definitely going to spike up again.
Definitely. Heck, by the time KH3 comes out I'd be shocked if it didn't hit 1,000,000 views.
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Watched it again with my brother lol
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Watched it again with my brother lol
And ?
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Did he...like it?
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Please they need your brother's validation don't leave them hanging here dude.
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He's building suspense...anyone want to place bets on his brother's opinion? jk
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Much like the answer to the question of how many licks it takes to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop, so too shall the world never know whether MasterSora91's brother liked the Timeline video.
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Wow color me impressed they really did pull it off after all. A very nice way to sum up the entire series to date. Although I did find it a bit odd how they didn't even mention the possibility of a 2.5 HD remake but then again we aren't even sure of that yet apart from some information obtained in the credits of the 1.5 remake. That and they almost had perfect timing what with the official announcement of KH3 last week. Very cool stuff and I'm sure I'll be watching this again right before KH3 as a sort of recap...that or I'll be playing the HD collections :D hahaha!
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Wow color me impressed they really did pull it off after all. A very nice way to sum up the entire series to date. Although I did find it a bit odd how they didn't even mention the possibility of a 2.5 HD remake but then again we aren't even sure of that yet apart from some information obtained in the credits of the 1.5 remake. That and they almost had perfect timing what with the official announcement of KH3 last week. Very cool stuff and I'm sure I'll be watching this again right before KH3 as a sort of recap...that or I'll be playing the HD collections :D hahaha!
But we are sure. Nomura practically said to wait for it.
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Wow! I really, really really liked it! It was nicely produced and mananged to keep my attention for almost an hour. It also explained some things I didn't get and it was nice to have clear recap of the games rather than read some bland wiki article. They left some things out but they explained and touched upon the basic things a fan would need to know.
Although, I've gotta be honest that I didn't get why Vanitas looks like Sora, even after they explained it. But hey, my comprehension skills may be bad. Nothing but praise for this timeline :)
I shall be watching it before the release of KH3 and also suggesting it to anyone who wants to hop onto the series late..
Again, great work!
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Although, I've gotta be honest that I didn't get why Vanitas looks like Sora, even after they explained it. But hey, my comprehension skills may be bad.
Don't worry Vanitas is a weird part of the KH-verse that I don't fully get either. xD
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It's one of those metaphysical things, like how the heart shales the appearance, and how Kingdom Hearts is basically the giver of all life.
But those are at least more palatable in terms of understanding.
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Wow! I really, really really liked it! It was nicely produced and mananged to keep my attention for almost an hour. It also explained some things I didn't get and it was nice to have clear recap of the games rather than read some bland wiki article. They left some things out but they explained and touched upon the basic things a fan would need to know.
Although, I've gotta be honest that I didn't get why Vanitas looks like Sora, even after they explained it. But hey, my comprehension skills may be bad. Nothing but praise for this timeline :)
I shall be watching it before the release of KH3 and also suggesting it to anyone who wants to hop onto the series late..
Again, great work!
Vanitas has a sora face because of Ventus. When sora's newborn heart filled in the gap in ven's heart that was left by vanitas' creation, the connection not only affected ventus but it also affected vantias cause vanitas is still connected to ven to a degree.
Basically newborn heart sora saving ven affected vanitas.
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i agree this is part of the reason sora was choose because of his pure heart with ven vanitas was bad bad bad terra had a cool heart but it had to much evil and that is part of why riku was engulfed by darkness in KH1 so ventus had a huge effect on sora and terra had a huge effect one riku aqua made castle Oblivion so she has ties with both riku and sora :rolleyes:.
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Vanitas has a sora face because of Ventus. When sora's newborn heart filled in the gap in ven's heart that was left by vanitas' creation, the connection not only affected ventus but it also affected vantias cause vanitas is still connected to ven to a degree.
Basically newborn heart sora saving ven affected vanitas.
So technically, shouldn't Ventus's appearance been changed too? Or did it only affect Vanitas because Sora filled up the gap where Vani used to be?
Thanks for trying to clear it up anyway, I think I kind of understand.
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FYI. Gametrailers is going to release an updated version of the timeline that factors in the Kingdom Hearts III announcement. It is cleverly titled Kingdom Hearts Timeline -Final Mix-.
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FYI. Gametrailers is going to release an updated version of the timeline that factors in the Kingdom Hearts III announcement. It is cleverly titled Kingdom Hearts Timeline -Final Mix-.
Cool news! Let's hope they suggest everyone should play the ReMixes
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Vanitas has a sora face because of Ventus. When sora's newborn heart filled in the gap in ven's heart that was left by vanitas' creation, the connection not only affected ventus but it also affected vantias cause vanitas is still connected to ven to a degree.
Basically newborn heart sora saving ven affected vanitas.
So technically, shouldn't Ventus's appearance been changed too? Or did it only affect Vanitas because Sora filled up the gap where Vani used to be?
Thanks for trying to clear it up anyway, I think I kind of understand.
It's a minor detail, but Vanitas didn't actually have a face until the point at which Sora and Ven's hearts linked. If it had been anyone else, Vanitas would have resembled them.
In a way, it's not unlike why Roxas looks like Ven and not Sora.
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So technically, shouldn't Ventus's appearance been changed too? Or did it only affect Vanitas because Sora filled up the gap where Vani used to be?
Thanks for trying to clear it up anyway, I think I kind of understand.
It wouldn't affect ventus' face. And like The_Echo pointed out above me we learn in the novels that Vanitas was actually made/born faceless, resembling a unversed more than a person.
Why it would affect vanitas in such a way and not ventus is a question only nomura know though. xD
Though I go with the idea that nomura had vantias getting sora's face to show the connection ven has to sora and that the explanation he gave for it was his way of explaining it into the story.
Also as Echo pointed out it is Ven's presence in sora that gives roxas his face.
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Man. This video is incredibly well done. I've seen their Zelda one too and that one was a damn masterpiece. Obviously, there were something they left out during the video, but if they really wanted to get every specific plot point in the whole series, that Timeline would have turned into a LotR movie in length.
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It wouldn't affect ventus' face. And like The_Echo pointed out above me we learn in the novels that Vanitas was actually made/born faceless, resembling a unversed more than a person.
Why it would affect vanitas in such a way and not ventus is a question only nomura know though. xD
Though I go with the idea that nomura had vantias getting sora's face to show the connection ven has to sora and that the explanation he gave for it was his way of explaining it into the story.
Also as Echo pointed out it is Ven's presence in sora that gives roxas his face.
It's even more than that, Ventus' face wouldn't be affected because his face is the first template in the mix.
Remember that Sora's heart was just a newborn one at that point. Except in hair-style and color, Ventus and Sora have the same face which is especially evident in their eyes, which share even the exact same shade of color.
By connecting with Ventus' heart at birth, Sora's appearance actually took on some of Ven's features, not the other way around.
That's also why Aqua remarks when he sees little Sora that he's the "spitting image" of Ven.
That Sora has a different hair color and style might be a thing that had already been set from the get go.
Knowing this, the reason that only Vanitas was affected is because he was the only one able to be affected since he had no human facial features. Ven's features were already set and then there is the fact that Sora's heart put its weight and forged the connection between itself and Ven exactly at the same point where the wound that Vanitas had ripped was located.
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It's even more than that, Ventus' face wouldn't be affected because his face is the first template in the mix.
Remember that Sora's heart was just a newborn one at that point. Except in hair-style and color, Ventus and Sora have the same face which is especially evident in their eyes, which share even the exact same shade of color.
By connecting with Ventus' heart at birth, Sora's appearance actually took on some of Ven's features, not the other way around.
That's also why Aqua remarks when he sees little Sora that he's the "spitting image" of Ven.
That Sora has a different hair color and style might be a thing that had already been set from the get go.
Knowing this, the reason that only Vanitas was affected is because he was the only one able to be affected since he had no human facial features. Ven's features were already set and then there is the fact that Sora's heart put its weight and forged the connection between itself and Ven exactly at the same point where the wound that Vanitas had ripped was located.
I finished BBS yesterday and that's the only real question I had. 'How does the whole "he looks a lot like you" work now that we know Ven existed?' I guess there is an explanation of anything in this series.
Thanks man!
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I finished BBS yesterday and that's the only real question I had. 'How does the whole "he looks a lot like you" work now that we know Ven existed?' I guess there is an explanation of anything in this series.
Thanks man!
Xemnas was still referring to Sora when he said that, and we know this for a fact because of his secret boss fight in KHFM.
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Xemnas was still referring to Sora when he said that, and we know this for a fact because of his secret boss fight in KHFM.
I know. I meant that while playing BBS I was wondering why Sora looked a lot like Ven/Roxas when they had no relation to one another. *rhetorical question* In reality, weren't they supposed to be the same person with different hair etc?
Sephiroth's theory covers that question.
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I know. I meant that while playing BBS I was wondering why Sora looked a lot like Ven/Roxas when they had no relation to one another. *rhetorical question* In reality, weren't they supposed to be the same person with different hair etc?
Sephiroth's theory covers that question.
Well, they do have a relation to one another, their very tightly knit heart connection. Ventus was not only Sora's first, but also one of the deepest heart connections he made.
Of course, if you speak of biological or genetic relation there isn't one, but those do not matter in KH anyways.
If you're willing to let slide Real-world semantics on such stuff, you could actually describe Sora and Ventus as a sort of "heart-brothers".
They were never supposed to be the same person, that was one of the first things Nomura confirmed after Ven's face was revealed. He always stressed that Ventus is his own person and neither Sora nor Roxas.
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Well, they do have a relation to one another, their very tightly knit heart connection. Ventus was not only Sora's first, but also one of the deepest heart connections he made.
Is that why Ven copies Sora's "hands behind head" stance? Seriously, I think they literally transferred the animation of Sora doing it in KH2 and used Ven's model. It's the exact same thing.
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Is that why Ven copies Sora's "hands behind head" stance? Seriously, I think they literally transferred the animation of Sora doing it in KH2 and used Ven's model. It's the exact same thing.
It's one of the many little touches to show the parallels between them, not necessarily to demonstrate their literal heart-to-heart connection.
FYI. Gametrailers is going to release an updated version of the timeline that factors in the Kingdom Hearts III announcement. It is cleverly titled Kingdom Hearts Timeline -Final Mix-.
We'll be in the same boat as you guys for this one. No script revisions this time, haha.
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Is that why Ven copies Sora's "hands behind head" stance? Seriously, I think they literally transferred the animation of Sora doing it in KH2 and used Ven's model. It's the exact same thing.
It can also be again the other way around, as you might notice that Sora does not do that motion when he meets Terra or Aqua but only after he accepts Ven's heart into himself at the end and says to Riku "Ya know... I think it worked." he does the exact motion of putting his hands behind his head and moving his upper body around.
He does a similar motion beforehand but there he only puts his hands shortly behind his head before removing them again.
But in general, yes, they share that "tick" because of their close connection, or rather it is a hint towards it, regardless of who might have done it first.
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It's one of the many little touches to show the parallels between them, not necessarily to demonstrate their literal heart-to-heart connection.
I wonder. Will some of the similarities between Sora and Ven disappear once Ven's heart returns to his body? Or would their "connection" have become permanent?
Must've skipped over this post. That's awesome. I thought it kind of sucked that they made the Timeline right before KH3 was announced, but now they're going to the trouble to add it in. Quite awesome indeed.
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I wonder. Will some of the similarities between Sora and Ven disappear once Ven's heart returns to his body? Or would their "connection" have become permanent?
Their connection was already forged and established way before Ven's heart actually entered Sora's and the effects of it already applied, so Ven's heart leaving and returning to its own body should have no effect at all except the loss of the Dual-Wielding ability.
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Wait, the video was just covering KH, CoM, and II? Weak.
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It's even more than that, Ventus' face wouldn't be affected because his face is the first template in the mix.
Remember that Sora's heart was just a newborn one at that point. Except in hair-style and color, Ventus and Sora have the same face which is especially evident in their eyes, which share even the exact same shade of color.
By connecting with Ventus' heart at birth, Sora's appearance actually took on some of Ven's features, not the other way around.
That's also why Aqua remarks when he sees little Sora that he's the "spitting image" of Ven.
That Sora has a different hair color and style might be a thing that had already been set from the get go.
Knowing this, the reason that only Vanitas was affected is because he was the only one able to be affected since he had no human facial features. Ven's features were already set and then there is the fact that Sora's heart put its weight and forged the connection between itself and Ven exactly at the same point where the wound that Vanitas had ripped was located.
I never played BBS so I'm kinda lost here. But, didn't Ven's heart connect with Sora's four years before Terra's and Aqua's MoM exam? Was Sora 4 years old at that time? Assuming of course that that's the first time their hearts connect.
But then wouldn't that mean that when Ven's heart goes into Sora's at the end, that Sora is 8 years old?
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I never played BBS so I'm kinda lost here. But, didn't Ven's heart connect with Sora's four years before Terra's and Aqua's MoM exam? Was Sora 4 years old at that time? Assuming of course that that's the first time their hearts connect.
But then wouldn't that mean that when Ven's heart goes into Sora's at the end, that Sora is 8 years old?
Sora is 4 years old in BBS + 10 = 14 in the original. Ven's heart made contact once when Sora was born and then Ven's heart sought shelter inside Sora's when it was damaged after the Vanitas fight
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I've got that right :p
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Sora is 4 years old in BBS + 10 = 14 in the original. Ven's heart made contact once when Sora was born and then Ven's heart sought shelter inside Sora's when it was damaged after the Vanitas fight
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I've got that right :p
No you got it right, man.
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Sora is 4 years old in BBS + 10 = 14 in the original. Ven's heart made contact once when Sora was born and then Ven's heart sought shelter inside Sora's when it was damaged after the Vanitas fight
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I've got that right :p
Yeah my bad, I just watched tha beginning part of Ven's story. The problem is that I thought they showed Sora both times and he looked the same age, but he wasn't showed in the first part. It was actually his Heart speaking for him.
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Wait, the video was just covering KH, CoM, and II? Weak.
No ?
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Wait, the video was just covering KH, CoM, and II? Weak.
The video covered all games in the series and important plot points for casual fans. Did you even watch the whole hour?
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The video covered all games in the series and important plot points for casual fans. Did you even watch the whole hour?
I played it and it was only 10 minutes long. It stopped after that :|
*goes back to see what I did wrong*
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I played it and it was only 10 minutes long. It stopped after that :|
*goes back to see what I did wrong*
Well that doesn't sound right. People had playback issues with the video (I couldn't get past the first ad mark) If you have an ad block program, I'd suggest turning it off while viewing the video.
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Their connection was already forged and established way before Ven's heart actually entered Sora's and the effects of it already applied, so Ven's heart leaving and returning to its own body should have no effect at all except the loss of the Dual-Wielding ability.
Would this not also apply to Roxas if Xion were to be revived in KH3?
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Would this not also apply to Roxas if Xion were to be revived in KH3?
It would of course also apply to Roxas, but Xion has nothing to do with it because his dual-wielding ability is the same as Sora's, they both can only do it because of Ven's heart as the second Keyblade is Ventus'.
If Roxas and Xion are revived as their own existences they won't even have any Keyblade at all because their newly grown hearts have not been chosen by an own Keyblade yet.
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It would of course also apply to Roxas, but Xion has nothing to do with it because his dual-wielding ability is the same as Sora's, they both can only do it because of Ven's heart as the second Keyblade is Ventus'.
Really? I swore that Roxas' dual wielding came from absorbing Xion when she died.
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Really? I swore that Roxas' dual wielding came from absorbing Xion when she died.
Her death acted as the trigger to awaken Ven's Keyblade from within, but Roxas always had the inherent ability to dual wield.
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Really? I swore that Roxas' dual wielding came from absorbing Xion when she died.
Sign's explanation is correct. Furthermore, Xion's Keyblade was a fake, a sham, as Riku himself attested during the course of Days and Nomura confirmed this as well when he called Xion's Keyblade an imitation and that Riku was initially surprised that Roxas could use a real one.
To dual-wield, you need two hearts to be able to wield two at the same time and two distinct Keyblades. In Roxas' case that would be Ven's heart and his budding own heart that do the former and Sora's Keyblade (due to his strong connection with Sora) and Ven's Keyblade (once the emotional shock from Xion's death awakened it inside Roxas) for the latter.
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Sweet, wonder if the update will include more info on some of the few things they didn't cover.
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This is a great video and they explained the story really well. I'm suprised that they neglected to mention the actual trailer for kingdom hearts 3 though.
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This is a great video and they explained the story really well. I'm suprised that they neglected to mention the actual trailer for kingdom hearts 3 though.
The video was released before Kingdom Hearts 3 was announced, as you can see by the date.
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The video was released before Kingdom Hearts 3 was announced, as you can see by the date.
Oh, I wasn't paying attention since the video was in full screen the whole time i was watching it.
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I wonder what they'll change for the Final Mix version, I kind of hope they'll add a little more than just KH3's announcement.
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Wouldn't surprise me if this Final Mix video was Japan only.
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Wouldn't surprise me if this Final Mix video was Japan only.
L O L
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Despite what Gametrailers claims, the video they have up currently is the same one as before. No changes.
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okay they updatede the timeline today guys
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okay they updatede the timeline today guys
Are you sure? It looks like it's still the same video or is it somewhere else then in the playlist of Timeline?
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Are you sure? It looks like it's still the same video or is it somewhere else then in the playlist of Timeline?
they updated the ending with news from e3 about kingdom hearts 3
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So the update is online? Sweet!
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I actually discovered this video on the day it came out. it was fantastic! I was expecting there to be a few details missing, but i was surprised at the accuracy and how in-depth it was. my only complaint: he kept saying "Xion" wrong! :D
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I actually discovered this video on the day it came out. it was fantastic! I was expecting there to be a few details missing, but i was surprised at the accuracy and how in-depth it was. my only complaint: he kept saying "Xion" wrong! :D
*pats KHI on the shoulder*
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I actually discovered this video on the day it came out. it was fantastic! I was expecting there to be a few details missing, but i was surprised at the accuracy and how in-depth it was. my only complaint: he kept saying "Xion" wrong! :D
I thought he said it right. Will habe to listen again.
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